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2012-09-28 10:28:54 AM
Is John Anderson running again?
 
2012-09-28 10:32:49 AM
More like 1988
 
2012-09-28 10:33:54 AM
more like 1996
 
2012-09-28 10:35:43 AM
I love this new Republican talking point, except for the fact that it's blatantly wrong:

graphics8.nytimes.com

Note how at this point in the race in 1980, Reagan was leading in the polls.
 
2012-09-28 10:36:38 AM
*checks hair* - um, no.
 
2012-09-28 10:49:03 AM
More like 1948.
 
2012-09-28 10:51:37 AM
For conservatives, It's ALWAYS 1980 all over again.
 
2012-09-28 11:05:31 AM
More like 1984.

/take that how you will
 
2012-09-28 11:07:25 AM
"Are you better off than you were four years ago?"

This is the thing, most people will say yes. There aren't enough of those that don't that place the blame on Obama. Also Mitt Romney.
 
2012-09-28 11:08:11 AM
DamnYankees: For conservatives, It's ALWAYS 1980 all over again.

BOOM!
 
2012-09-28 11:08:56 AM

DamnYankees: For conservatives, It's ALWAYS 1980 all over again.


I imagine a cheezy 1940s style dance hall tourist traps. You know the ones where its New Year's Eve every night. Like that, but instead its November 4, 1980 every night.
 
2012-09-28 11:10:16 AM

nmemkha: DamnYankees: For conservatives, It's ALWAYS 1980 all over again.

I imagine a cheezy 1940s style dance hall tourist traps. You know the ones where its New Year's Eve every night. Like that, but instead its November 4, 1980 every night.


And they should model off the ballroom from the Shining:

www.hauntedstudios.com
 
2012-09-28 11:10:18 AM
More like 2004 with the parties switched. Romney even has the same "rich, out of touch" vibe that Kerry sorta had.

In any case, the main point of the article seemed to be "If Romney can win the debates, he'll win." No way Romney isn't going to win the debates.
 
2012-09-28 11:11:20 AM
Wow, Romney is going to win.
 
2012-09-28 11:12:00 AM

Rincewind53: I love this new Republican talking point, except for the fact that it's blatantly wrong:

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x511]

Note how at this point in the race in 1980, Reagan was leading in the polls.


Shh...You might shatter their delusion.
 
2012-09-28 11:12:32 AM
Errrr..."No way Romney is going to win the debates."
 
2012-09-28 11:12:37 AM
1980 all over again? It's a shame that Jimmy Carter isn't running, isn't it?

By the way, Reagan played the GOP like the chumps that they are. He played to the base and once he got elected, he raised taxes at least seven times and worked intimately with the Democrats in Congress to get things done.
 
2012-09-28 11:12:52 AM
Hey... 1980 was a pretty good year for me

/and I still had hair
 
2012-09-28 11:13:07 AM
Reality check: Romney is no Reagan.
 
2012-09-28 11:13:16 AM
GOP Mythology is just adorable.
 
2012-09-28 11:13:52 AM
Did they have this on tap in 1980?

0.tqn.com
 
2012-09-28 11:14:07 AM
It is by no means the Clinton years, but who can say they are worse off now than they were at the end of Bush's reign?
 
2012-09-28 11:14:26 AM

Cletus C.: Wow, Romney is going to win.


Sorry there is no consolation prize.
 
2012-09-28 11:14:27 AM

noneyourbase: Reality check: Romney is no Reagan.


And, by the way, Obama isn't Carter. Pretending he is doesn't help the GOP.
 
2012-09-28 11:14:30 AM
Romney is a Reagan now? I will believe that when Jessica Alba becomes my girlfriend.
 
2012-09-28 11:15:28 AM
The Republican Party's attempt to emulate Reagan's 1980 campaign is a reason Romney is currently losing.

Here's the science:

LINK
 
2012-09-28 11:15:30 AM

moriarty23: It is by no means the Clinton years, but who can say they are worse off now than they were at the end of Bush's reign?


Now now, you know the rules...If the economy improves, it's Bush's Recovery. If the economy worsen's, it's Obama's Depression.
 
2012-09-28 11:16:04 AM
I don't get how you can call this a "1980" when every moderate polling outlet has Romney winning over a thousand electoral votes.
 
2012-09-28 11:16:13 AM

Geotpf: More like 2004 with the parties switched. Romney even has the same "rich, out of touch" vibe that Kerry sorta had.

In any case, the main point of the article seemed to be "If Romney can win the debates, he'll win." No way Romney isn't going to win the debates.


The GOP mouthbreathers claiming if Romney wins the debates he'll win the election remind of the morans that are in every town that call the local sports radio station to claim the local NBA team will win the championship if they trade their scrubs for Kobe and LeBron. Just as retarded, just as delusional.
 
2012-09-28 11:16:29 AM

Cletus C.: Wow, Romney is going to win.


You wish.
 
2012-09-28 11:16:38 AM

Rincewind53: I love this new Republican talking point, except for the fact that it's blatantly wrong:

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x511]

Note how at this point in the race in 1980, Reagan was leading in the polls.


Indeed. What a joke this pathetic 1980-equivalency thing is. 

themonkeycage.org
 
2012-09-28 11:16:58 AM

noneyourbase: noneyourbase: Reality check: Romney is no Reagan.

And, by the way, Obama isn't Carter. Pretending he is doesn't help the GOP.


They've been running against a pretend Obama for five years now and worship a falsified demi-god Reagan. Delusion is integral in their party's beliefs. No reason they should stop doing this now.
 
2012-09-28 11:17:00 AM
Obviously it was the debates that led to Carter's defeat.

*rolls eyes*
 
2012-09-28 11:17:43 AM

theknuckler_33: Rincewind53: I love this new Republican talking point, except for the fact that it's blatantly wrong:

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x511]

Note how at this point in the race in 1980, Reagan was leading in the polls.

Indeed. What a joke this pathetic 1980-equivalency thing is. 

[themonkeycage.org image 850x617]


How do those polls look if you unskew them? That's the REAL question!
 
2012-09-28 11:17:55 AM

Mike_LowELL: I don't get how you can call this a "1980" when every moderate polling outlet has Romney winning over a thousand electoral votes.


The moon base EVs don't count.
 
2012-09-28 11:19:05 AM
is it just me or in the last 2-3 weeks have most of the conservatives gone full blown conspiracy? i know its been bad, but it seems to have gotten worse with this vast left wing conspiracy crap, how can they not just see they have a flawed candidate who stinks on ice? is it because they've been brainwashed by the media to think everyone is against them? or just ignorance? Is the irony of the "koolaid drinkers" lost on them?
 
2012-09-28 11:19:45 AM

Infernalist: Mike_LowELL: I don't get how you can call this a "1980" when every moderate polling outlet has Romney winning over a thousand electoral votes.

The moon base EVs don't count.


The natural moon or each of the cloaked lizard-people moons at the lagrange points?
 
2012-09-28 11:20:35 AM

gittlebass: is it just me or in the last 2-3 weeks have most of the conservatives gone full blown conspiracy? i know its been bad, but it seems to have gotten worse with this vast left wing conspiracy crap, how can they not just see they have a flawed candidate who stinks on ice? is it because they've been brainwashed by the media to think everyone is against them? or just ignorance? Is the irony of the "koolaid drinkers" lost on them?


We're actually entering dangerous territory, because we are laying the groundwork over the next few decades for a complete and total breakdown of the very legitimacy of the government. If you truly start believing that elections are systematically rigged, Congress has a perpetual 10% approval rating and the Supreme Court is hopelessly partisan, there really isn't much of a government left anymore.
 
2012-09-28 11:21:24 AM
Apparently there are no third party candidates in this election. Interesting, I could have sworn there were a couple.
 
2012-09-28 11:21:47 AM
Considering how desparate Romney is to pander for votes, I wouldn't put it past him to go to the county clerk's office and legally change his name to Ronald Reagan.
 
2012-09-28 11:22:21 AM

noneyourbase: Reality check: Romney is no Reagan.


I imagine they'll give the president the last word at the debates, so if Romney tries to slip in a 'there you go again' or 'are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?' Reagan redux, I think what you wrote is exactly what Obama should say.
 
2012-09-28 11:22:21 AM

DamnYankees: gittlebass: is it just me or in the last 2-3 weeks have most of the conservatives gone full blown conspiracy? i know its been bad, but it seems to have gotten worse with this vast left wing conspiracy crap, how can they not just see they have a flawed candidate who stinks on ice? is it because they've been brainwashed by the media to think everyone is against them? or just ignorance? Is the irony of the "koolaid drinkers" lost on them?

We're actually entering dangerous territory, because we are laying the groundwork over the next few decades for a complete and total breakdown of the very legitimacy of the government. If you truly start believing that elections are systematically rigged, Congress has a perpetual 10% approval rating and the Supreme Court is hopelessly partisan, there really isn't much of a government left anymore.


we're entering a new dark ages in america
 
2012-09-28 11:23:05 AM

Epoch_Zero: Infernalist: Mike_LowELL: I don't get how you can call this a "1980" when every moderate polling outlet has Romney winning over a thousand electoral votes.

The moon base EVs don't count.

The natural moon or each of the cloaked lizard-people moons at the lagrange points?


IN A SINGLE ROTATION OF THE EARTH SPHERE EACH MOON SPHERE ROTATES THROUGH THE OTHER THREE MOON SPHERE POINTS, THUS CREATING 16 CORNERS, 96 HOURS, and 4-SIMULTANEOUS 24 HOUR TIDES WITHIN A SINGLE ROTATION OF THE EARTH - EQUATED TO A HIGHER ORDER OF LIFE MOON BASE.
 
2012-09-28 11:23:12 AM

gittlebass: is it just me or in the last 2-3 weeks have most of the conservatives gone full blown conspiracy? i know its been bad, but it seems to have gotten worse with this vast left wing conspiracy crap, how can they not just see they have a flawed candidate who stinks on ice? is it because they've been brainwashed by the media to think everyone is against them? or just ignorance? Is the irony of the "koolaid drinkers" lost on them?


Cognitive Dissonance. Obama is going win a second term. A black man will be legitimately elected to the office .. twice! They can no longer claim it was a one-time fluke (i.e. "White Guilt")

I just pray that the resolution of their dissonance does not involve violence.
 
2012-09-28 11:23:32 AM
FIND. A NEW. TOTEM.

Seriously. This Reagan business has got to stop. The GOP is already turning into the old white party, and constantly genuflecting toward a guy who has now been dead 8 years (and whose presidency ended 24 years ago - half a lifetime) means you're relying on voters' prior knowledge of the meme to push it along.

New voters were 10 when Reagan died, and weren't even born when Dukakis rode a tank. Myself a four-time presidential-election voter, I was 7 when HW took office (born when Reagan's presidency was 9 months old).

All it looks like to us is that the GOP hasn't had a decent leader in 30 years. Democrats eventually had to give up FDR and Kennedy, and eventually we'll have to give up Clinton too. Invoking Reagan no longer helps you, as everyone who cares is already voting Republican. The younger crowd, not really knowing anything about the man, Googles him and finds that he's the architect of many/most of what we hate about modern government - expansion, imbalanced taxation, retarded foreign policy, half of W Bush/Romney's advisor choices...
 
2012-09-28 11:23:54 AM
Good points!

Or they would be if Romney had any of the likeability, charisma, wit, or charm of Reagan.
 
2012-09-28 11:25:06 AM

nmemkha: gittlebass: is it just me or in the last 2-3 weeks have most of the conservatives gone full blown conspiracy? i know its been bad, but it seems to have gotten worse with this vast left wing conspiracy crap, how can they not just see they have a flawed candidate who stinks on ice? is it because they've been brainwashed by the media to think everyone is against them? or just ignorance? Is the irony of the "koolaid drinkers" lost on them?

Cognitive Dissonance. Obama is going win a second term. A black man will be legitimately elected to the office .. twice! They can no longer claim it was a one-time fluke (i.e. "White Guilt")

I just pray that the resolution of their dissonance does not involve violence.


To quote carlin "can there ever be a truly CIVIL war?" I think that's what we're in now, and after the election it may not be so civil
 
2012-09-28 11:25:52 AM

gittlebass: we're entering a new dark ages in america


1000 years of darkness.
Thanks, Obama!
 
2012-09-28 11:26:16 AM
www.fashiongrail.com

Y'all can't hold my donkey rope.
 
2012-09-28 11:26:38 AM

theknuckler_33: Rincewind53: I love this new Republican talking point, except for the fact that it's blatantly wrong:

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x511]

Note how at this point in the race in 1980, Reagan was leading in the polls.

Indeed. What a joke this pathetic 1980-equivalency thing is. 

[themonkeycage.org image 850x617]


You know, they might be right though, yet hilariously wrong. That graph looks very, very familiar to the state of the race today.

Except instead of Reagan in the lead with the large bounce, it's Obama.
 
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