MugzyBrown: This should show the NHL fans how low their league is in the eyes of the public.MLB Strike, big newsNBA lock-out pretty big newsNFL lock-out huge newsNFL ref lock-out big newsNHL lock-out... .... ... hello? Still reading?/NHL Fan
Rev.K: Mark my words.The players will blink. And we will have a season.There are too many old guys and too many young guys who want to play the game. Losing another year of their careers over squeezing 5-7% more revenue in this CBA won't be seen as an acceptable cost/benefit ratio.They'll work the owners as hard as they can, but in the end they will accept a deal to get back on the ice.
MugzyBrown: This should show the NHL fans how low their league is in the eyes of the public.
The Bestest: Honest question towards the NHLPA.. exactly what did you think you were getting when you hired Donald Fehr?
kab: MugzyBrown: This should show the NHL fans how low their league is in the eyes of the public.On the other hand, the general public also thinks that 500 miles of left hand turns is the pinnacle of auto racing, and that American Idol is fantastic.
Yanks_RSJ: Maybe they'd like to make it through one labor dispute without getting bent over by the owners?
S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: WTF is a Carly Rae Jepsen?
weirdneighbour: Fan solidarity, stay home and watch it on tv for a season. Could they get by with just the season ticket fans and corporate seats? (I am assuming season ticket holders can't refund) They obviously don't give a flying fark about the fans.
WTF Indeed: and NBC puts hockey on so deep into the cable morass that even if you did want to watch a game you would need a map and a torch to find it.
Decillion: The NHL has you. If you came into an NHL thread now, you'll come back when they start the games. And the longer they are gone the more excited you'll be for game 1.
ElwoodCuse: Decillion: The NHL has you. If you came into an NHL thread now, you'll come back when they start the games. And the longer they are gone the more excited you'll be for game 1.What were the people who spend $9 billion a year on football going to do if the NFL missed games?
Decillion: The NHL has you. If you came into an NHL thread now, you'll come back when they start the games. And the longer they are gone the more excited you'll be for game 1 Bettman's slow torturous death at the hands of an angry mob of Flyers fans.
Olympic Trolling Judge: Decillion: The NHL has you. If you came into an NHL thread now, you'll come back when they start the games. And the longer they are gone the more excited you'll be for game 1 Bettman's slow torturous death at the hands of an angry mob of Flyers fans.
The Bestest: In other news, EA has cancelled NBA Live 13
Randyman: Billionaires vs Millionaires... With the fans acting as ATM machines.No thanks NHL / NHLPA - you've lost me again, regardless of the outcome. You have both proven that you could care less about the "sport"... It's all about the Benjamins... and my Benjamins will be spent elsewhere.
MugzyBrown: The NHL is the only major sport in the US that could benefit from a 2-tier league with relegation rules.Hockey is so regional, and they've expanded way beyond their capacity to have teams like Floria compete with the Rangers year in and out financially.Cap it at 20 teams or so, put the rest in the 2nd tier and every year 2 teams go up and 2 teams go down.Most likely 10 teams will eventually die out and you'll end up with a strong 20 team league.
LineNoise: Couple of problems with that:1. Look at the playoffs from the last few years. One of the nice things about hockey is that the smaller markets do have a chance. The cap does work. Sure, you have a handful of big teams that can afford to spend the full cap, and sneak some money around it, but not to the level of say, the yankees, where you are pretty much guaranteed success every year.2. If you were to say, turn the AHL into a second tier like in soccer (and I'm a fan of the AHL), you would have arena problems. Pretty much all AHL teams have arenas a fraction of the size of the NHL teams. Compared to other leagues, the money NHL teams make at the gate represents a much larger portion of their revenue streams.So now you are say, the Amerks, and the leaf's blow for yet another year and get knocked down. Aside from riots in toronto, the amerks now need to compete at an NHL level in an arena that holds maybe 6,000 people, all of whom are used to paying 10 bucks for tickets. Meanwhile the Leafs now have to cut ticket prices to try and keep their fans happy, all while trying to maintain a first tier infrastructure in terms of facilities, staff, etc, with the hopes they make it to the higher level the next year.The same problem holds true if you just cut the league in half, and say you have NHL1 and NHL2. You have teams struggling to stay afloat now, you think they would if you relegate them to a minor league so the fans can show up to watch them play sheboygan?
LineNoise: Anyway, I do see where the owners are coming from. You have too many teams that lose money. Sure, you can scream contract the league, but that doesn't grow the sport.
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