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2012-09-28 10:11:16 AM
Honest question towards the NHLPA.. exactly what did you think you were getting when you hired Donald Fehr?
 
2012-09-28 10:16:36 AM
This is crazy.
 
2012-09-28 10:16:42 AM
The players want more money, the owners want to break the union, the commissioner wants to put teams in cities that average 85 degrees a day, and NBC puts hockey on so deep into the cable morass that even if you did want to watch a game you would need a map and a torch to find it.
 
2012-09-28 10:40:31 AM
We already know Fehr and Satan's Personal Commissioner won't agree to anything, why would we care that the preseason was cancelled?
 
2012-09-28 12:19:15 PM
This should show the NHL fans how low their league is in the eyes of the public.

MLB Strike, big news
NBA lock-out pretty big news
NFL lock-out huge news
NFL ref lock-out big news
NHL lock-out... .... ... hello? Still reading?

/NHL Fan
 
2012-09-28 12:22:25 PM

MugzyBrown: This should show the NHL fans how low their league is in the eyes of the public.

MLB Strike, big news
NBA lock-out pretty big news
NFL lock-out huge news
NFL ref lock-out big news
NHL lock-out... .... ... hello? Still reading?

/NHL Fan


I feel sad that I was actually more interested in what her favorite cover of Call Me Maybe was, and I never even knew about the song until the parodies.
 
2012-09-28 12:22:58 PM
I'm sick of the NHL. I hope all the players stay overseas for a few years. A second lost season in less than a decade is inexcusable (and that's what is probably going to happen)
 
2012-09-28 12:23:18 PM
To be fair, it's a really good version.
 
2012-09-28 12:24:40 PM
 
kab
2012-09-28 12:25:12 PM
As much as I love the game, the league deserves to tank. The players will move on to other leagues, and the owners can sit around wondering why the gravy train has suddenly come to a screeching halt.

Dear owners, this is what happens when you actually think that you're the reason that tickets are sold. This is what happens when you cry poverty out one side of your mouth, then turn around and willingly offer lengthy, overpaying contracts.

fark 'em, and let it burn.
 
2012-09-28 12:26:53 PM
Mark my words.

The players will blink. And we will have a season.

There are too many old guys and too many young guys who want to play the game. Losing another year of their careers over squeezing 5-7% more revenue in this CBA won't be seen as an acceptable cost/benefit ratio.

They'll work the owners as hard as they can, but in the end they will accept a deal to get back on the ice.
 
2012-09-28 12:31:01 PM
The NHL is the only major sport in the US that could benefit from a 2-tier league with relegation rules.

Hockey is so regional, and they've expanded way beyond their capacity to have teams like Floria compete with the Rangers year in and out financially.

Cap it at 20 teams or so, put the rest in the 2nd tier and every year 2 teams go up and 2 teams go down.

Most likely 10 teams will eventually die out and you'll end up with a strong 20 team league.
 
2012-09-28 12:31:55 PM

Rev.K: Mark my words.

The players will blink. And we will have a season.

There are too many old guys and too many young guys who want to play the game. Losing another year of their careers over squeezing 5-7% more revenue in this CBA won't be seen as an acceptable cost/benefit ratio.

They'll work the owners as hard as they can, but in the end they will accept a deal to get back on the ice.


I'm not holding my breath. I think what Toews said earlier this week is what a majority of players think, that this lockout is less about the financial system and more about the owners letting everyone know it's their sandbox. Why else is there no revenue sharing system in the Leagues proposal?
 
kab
2012-09-28 12:33:57 PM

MugzyBrown: This should show the NHL fans how low their league is in the eyes of the public.


On the other hand, the general public also thinks that 500 miles of left hand turns is the pinnacle of auto racing, and that American Idol is fantastic.
 
2012-09-28 12:34:47 PM
I was actually excited about this preseason for one game: The Isles-Devils game that was scheduled to be played in the Barclays Center. I wanted to see whether the arena was workable since I'm hoping it's a permanent solution to the Coliseum problem.
 
2012-09-28 12:43:31 PM
 
2012-09-28 12:43:55 PM

The Bestest: Honest question towards the NHLPA.. exactly what did you think you were getting when you hired Donald Fehr?


Maybe they'd like to make it through one labor dispute without getting bent over by the owners?
 
2012-09-28 12:45:55 PM

kab: MugzyBrown: This should show the NHL fans how low their league is in the eyes of the public.

On the other hand, the general public also thinks that 500 miles of left hand turns is the pinnacle of auto racing, and that American Idol is fantastic.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-28 12:46:01 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Maybe they'd like to make it through one labor dispute without getting bent over by the owners?


Seriously. It's not the like players have NO leverage, either. I know it would disrupt families and it's not ideal for many players, but even marginal NHL players can get a job and a good paycheck overseas.
 
2012-09-28 12:56:18 PM
I thought this would be her favorite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adkqBIbsP4A
 
2012-09-28 01:01:29 PM
They should cancel the whole regular season because most of it is also irrelevant.

The regular season is too long, and the intensity of the playoffs shows how bad the regular season is.
 
2012-09-28 01:04:32 PM
images.t-shirts.com
 
2012-09-28 01:05:05 PM
WTF is a Carly Rae Jepsen?
 
2012-09-28 01:07:32 PM

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: WTF is a Carly Rae Jepsen?


Second round draft pick by the Tampa Bay Lightning. Perhaps a bit of a reach, most teams had her rated a round or two lower, but Guy Boucher and Steve Yzerman were real high on her from the get-go.
 
2012-09-28 01:23:37 PM
Still the best version!

Anyways, as a Sharks fan, that window is all but shut now (if it wasn't already).
 
2012-09-28 01:24:15 PM
Fan solidarity, stay home and watch it on tv for a season. Could they get by with just the season ticket fans and corporate seats? (I am assuming season ticket holders can't refund) They obviously don't give a flying fark about the fans.
 
2012-09-28 01:25:41 PM

weirdneighbour: Fan solidarity, stay home and watch it on tv for a season. Could they get by with just the season ticket fans and corporate seats? (I am assuming season ticket holders can't refund) They obviously don't give a flying fark about the fans.


The answer is yes. Hell, the owners can close down the league and still have millions upon millions.
 
2012-09-28 01:26:27 PM
i.huffpost.com
Fist, angry god, etc.
 
2012-09-28 01:28:03 PM

WTF Indeed: and NBC puts hockey on so deep into the cable morass that even if you did want to watch a game you would need a map and a torch to find it.



I don't buy that. If you want to watch the NHL, you know it's going to be on NBCSN. In this day and age of information at your fingertips, it's not hard to search for the channel on your provider using your computer or phone. Not doing so is pure laziness.

I memorized the sports channels of both Comcast (my home provider), and DirecTV (for when I'm out at bars and want to watch something). If I do forget one, I just look it up on my phone that way I don't annoy the bartender by having them search the guide for it.
 
2012-09-28 01:34:31 PM
I'd negotiate at her deadline.

/I'm not even trying anymore..
 
2012-09-28 01:41:54 PM
Something something five hole?
 
2012-09-28 01:46:46 PM
The NHL has you. If you came into an NHL thread now, you'll come back when they start the games. And the longer they are gone the more excited you'll be for game 1.
 
2012-09-28 01:54:39 PM
i97.photobucket.com 

IIRC correctly I got this image from an old Fark thread. Still seems relevant today...

FARK YOU BUTTMAN!
 
2012-09-28 01:54:46 PM

Decillion: The NHL has you. If you came into an NHL thread now, you'll come back when they start the games. And the longer they are gone the more excited you'll be for game 1.


Soo... We'll see you in April for the playoffs? You can cheer on the Sabres.
 
2012-09-28 01:55:25 PM
And I have locked out the NHL from my wallet while Buttman is in charge.
 
2012-09-28 01:59:18 PM

Decillion: The NHL has you. If you came into an NHL thread now, you'll come back when they start the games. And the longer they are gone the more excited you'll be for game 1.


What were the people who spend $9 billion a year on football going to do if the NFL missed games?
 
2012-09-28 02:15:46 PM

ElwoodCuse: Decillion: The NHL has you. If you came into an NHL thread now, you'll come back when they start the games. And the longer they are gone the more excited you'll be for game 1.

What were the people who spend $9 billion a year on football going to do if the NFL missed games?


Spend 9.5 billion on the first year back.
 
2012-09-28 02:34:26 PM

Decillion: The NHL has you. If you came into an NHL thread now, you'll come back when they start the games. And the longer they are gone the more excited you'll be for game 1 Bettman's slow torturous death at the hands of an angry mob of Flyers fans.


Hey, a man can dream, right?
 
2012-09-28 02:40:05 PM
In other news, EA has cancelled NBA Live 13
 
2012-09-28 02:50:13 PM
Bettman's slow torturous death at the hands of an angry mob of Flyers fans.

Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2012-09-28 02:57:55 PM

Olympic Trolling Judge: Decillion: The NHL has you. If you came into an NHL thread now, you'll come back when they start the games. And the longer they are gone the more excited you'll be for game 1 Bettman's slow torturous death at the hands of an angry mob of Flyers fans.


(Strokes chin..)
It is within our power...
But if we do this thing for you, what guarantee do we have that Santa Clause and Philadelphia will never be mentioned in the same sentence again? 

/Are you not entertained?
 
2012-09-28 03:01:22 PM
I'm kind of bummed because I had tickets to the devs\isles at the Barclays center.

Anyway, I do see where the owners are coming from. You have too many teams that lose money. Sure, you can scream contract the league, but that doesn't grow the sport.

The NHL has been smart of late, getting ahead of the concussion thing, starting to come down on diving, etc. That said, they are looking at huge lawsuits down the road, much like the NHL, when it comes to injuries. They need to adjust the economics of the game to be able to handle that when it does happen.

Players need to take a cut, plain and simple. You also need to set a maximum contract length, make some changes to FA, and change how bonuses are calculated or you will have teams sneaking around the cap (and I say this as a fan whose team is one of the kings at doing this).
 
2012-09-28 03:03:05 PM

The Bestest: In other news, EA has cancelled NBA Live 13


EA Tiburon destroys everything it touches.
 
2012-09-28 03:07:09 PM
Billionaires vs Millionaires... With the fans acting as ATM machines.

No thanks NHL / NHLPA - you've lost me again, regardless of the outcome. You have both proven that you could care less about the "sport"... It's all about the Benjamins... and my Benjamins will be spent elsewhere.
 
2012-09-28 03:07:46 PM

The Bestest: In other news, EA has cancelled NBA Live 13


Has that game gotten any better over the last few years? I used to get that game every year (going back to Genesis NBA Live '95), but 2K thoroughly destroyed it last decade and I haven't played NBA Live since at least '09.

There were so many annoying quirks with it - if you deflected an opponents pass out of bounds, it counted as a turnover, and for some reason, the player ratings had guys like Josh McRoberts and Morris Almond as superstars.
 
2012-09-28 03:12:18 PM

Randyman: Billionaires vs Millionaires... With the fans acting as ATM machines.

No thanks NHL / NHLPA - you've lost me again, regardless of the outcome. You have both proven that you could care less about the "sport"... It's all about the Benjamins... and my Benjamins will be spent elsewhere.


You'll be back in your Dion Phaneuf sweater swilling your Moosehead in front of the CBC broadcast whilst Don Cherry argues once again that Maine should be annexed and become the province of New Bruinswick..
 
2012-09-28 03:13:49 PM

MugzyBrown: The NHL is the only major sport in the US that could benefit from a 2-tier league with relegation rules.

Hockey is so regional, and they've expanded way beyond their capacity to have teams like Floria compete with the Rangers year in and out financially.

Cap it at 20 teams or so, put the rest in the 2nd tier and every year 2 teams go up and 2 teams go down.

Most likely 10 teams will eventually die out and you'll end up with a strong 20 team league.


Couple of problems with that:

1. Look at the playoffs from the last few years. One of the nice things about hockey is that the smaller markets do have a chance. The cap does work. Sure, you have a handful of big teams that can afford to spend the full cap, and sneak some money around it, but not to the level of say, the yankees, where you are pretty much guaranteed success every year.

2. If you were to say, turn the AHL into a second tier like in soccer (and I'm a fan of the AHL), you would have arena problems. Pretty much all AHL teams have arenas a fraction of the size of the NHL teams. Compared to other leagues, the money NHL teams make at the gate represents a much larger portion of their revenue streams.

So now you are say, the Amerks, and the leaf's blow for yet another year and get knocked down. Aside from riots in toronto, the amerks now need to compete at an NHL level in an arena that holds maybe 6,000 people, all of whom are used to paying 10 bucks for tickets. Meanwhile the Leafs now have to cut ticket prices to try and keep their fans happy, all while trying to maintain a first tier infrastructure in terms of facilities, staff, etc, with the hopes they make it to the higher level the next year.

The same problem holds true if you just cut the league in half, and say you have NHL1 and NHL2. You have teams struggling to stay afloat now, you think they would if you relegate them to a minor league so the fans can show up to watch them play sheboygan?
 
2012-09-28 03:24:58 PM

LineNoise: Couple of problems with that:

1. Look at the playoffs from the last few years. One of the nice things about hockey is that the smaller markets do have a chance. The cap does work. Sure, you have a handful of big teams that can afford to spend the full cap, and sneak some money around it, but not to the level of say, the yankees, where you are pretty much guaranteed success every year.

2. If you were to say, turn the AHL into a second tier like in soccer (and I'm a fan of the AHL), you would have arena problems. Pretty much all AHL teams have arenas a fraction of the size of the NHL teams. Compared to other leagues, the money NHL teams make at the gate represents a much larger portion of their revenue streams.

So now you are say, the Amerks, and the leaf's blow for yet another year and get knocked down. Aside from riots in toronto, the amerks now need to compete at an NHL level in an arena that holds maybe 6,000 people, all of whom are used to paying 10 bucks for tickets. Meanwhile the Leafs now have to cut ticket prices to try and keep their fans happy, all while trying to maintain a first tier infrastructure in terms of facilities, staff, etc, with the hopes they make it to the higher level the next year.

The same problem holds true if you just cut the league in half, and say you have NHL1 and NHL2. You have teams struggling to stay afloat now, you think they would if you relegate them to a minor league so the fans can show up to watch them play sheboygan?


It's fine, the smaller teams can still compete, but let the big teams who have nice TV contracts and expensive seats spend $150m on players if they want to.

And part of my plan is to let the smaller teams sink if they don't have the support to fight to stay alive in NHL2. The league needs to contract. You don't have to keep growing the sport artificially. If you have a city who wants a franchise, fine they can buy a NHL2 franchise and try to compete to make it to NHL1. No need to gunk up the real teams.

All the cap/floor is doing is making the big teams spend less than they want and the small teams spend more than they want, thus you get 20 year contracts from the big teams and the small teams paying journeymen $5m per year and going bankrupt.
 
2012-09-28 03:25:40 PM

LineNoise: Anyway, I do see where the owners are coming from. You have too many teams that lose money. Sure, you can scream contract the league, but that doesn't grow the sport.


This is a good point and one I think people are missing. It's not just players vs. owners but owners vs. owners. There are teams like the Rangers, Red Wings and Leafs who do want the season to start since they make a ton of money every year. But then you have teams like Phoenix who need the revenue share just to stay afloat. The league has also served as a team owner in one capacity or another for years -- isn't that a sign that maybe it's time to cut back on the number of teams or move them to cities with more hockey revenue and interested owners? I wonder how much of this will come down to negotiations between players and owners and how much will be due to in-fighting among the owners.
 
2012-09-28 03:29:00 PM
Is it weird that what pisses me off most about all the call me maybe parodies isn't the song, but that almost everyone in them does the finger phone thing at the wrong time?
 
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