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(Washington Examiner)   In 1984, Barry Soetoro passed the "free phone line" law so that in 2008, Barack Obama would be able to hand out free cell phones to supporters   ( divider line
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2012-09-28 10:43:00 AM  
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soy_bomb: Also the woman in the video makes the statement that she got a free phone (Assuming that includes service).

The phone itself is likely covered by Link-Up, a separate program designed to cover installation costs of landline phones and likely including initial purchase of cell phones.

soy_bomb: $1.6 billion dollars for cell phones?

$1.6 billion is for the entire Universal Service Fund. Link-Up and Lifeline are both parts of one of the four main goals of the fund (specifically, they're focused on low-income customers). There's also rural health care initiatives (designed to get rural general practitioners access to specialists' opinions), internet/phone subsidies to libraries and other public places, and general rural cost control - attempts to make phone/internet service everywhere in the country comparable to the cost in the cities. The last makes up the majority of cost and effort in the USF.

Also, the USF is not paid with general tax dollars, but rather by mandatory contributions to the fund from telecommunication companies.
2012-09-28 10:27:21 AM  
2 votes:
Yesterday Rush was going on about this, playing sound bytes of people cheering for their free phone.

I could of sworn someone said it was around since Reagan off mic and he responded: "well I didnt hear about this stuff before Obama".

Republicans in a nutshell.
2012-09-28 11:56:23 AM  
1 vote:

GanjSmokr: You sounded like you believed it was actually paid for by the phone companies.

It is actually paid for by the telecommunication companies. Indirectly, and not willingly, but the fund only takes in specific revenues and only has specific spending. It was a comment against the assumption that it's paid for out of general taxation - that your income tax dollars go towards it. I realize I use both compound and complex sentences, but try not to shiat your pants before noon. It is a Friday, after all.
2012-09-28 11:46:33 AM  
1 vote:

sprawl15: GanjSmokr: Exactly. And companies never pass extra expenses they incur on to their customers. Never. Nope. Never. They always just take a hit in their profits or they lower bonuses.

Is there a point to your rambling, or is it "say shiat everyone already knows" day already?

He is just making the standard argument against requiring companies to do anything other than rake in our money. Because there is never a limit to how much a company can charge without losing customers. Never. Nope. Never. They can charge as much as they like and just keep making more money.
2012-09-28 10:57:17 AM  
1 vote:

dehehn: soy_bomb: That's why the recipients call them Reagan Phones...

Yeah I gotta agree. I'm an Obama supporter but he clearly wants to use this for political gain. Unless that site is a conservative plant.

It's not a .gov site - it's .net and registered through GoDaddy.

Registration info

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Clicking the link to apply takes you to
2012-09-28 10:55:48 AM  
1 vote:

soy_bomb: sprawl15: To be eligible for LifeLine, you have to have an income below 135% of the poverty level or be enrolled in poverty programs (Medicaid, food stamps, section 8, TANF, etc). It is illegal for more than one member of a household to be receiving LifeLine benefits. LifeLine can either be chosen for a land line or a cell phone (but not both).

LifeLine is not a "free phone", but rather a discount of ~$10/month. Because of this, the "free" wireless plans are simply plans that are only worth about $10/month. 250 minutes/month on a shiatty phone, with texting cutting into that.

$1.6 billion dollars for cell phones? I'm sure there can't be any fraud going on there. Also the woman in the video makes the statement that she got a free phone (Assuming that includes service).

So you would rather believe the random woman who has no idea what she's talking about rather than the actual facts of the actual program actually in place.

I wonder why that is?
2012-09-28 10:54:03 AM  
1 vote:
Call me a Commie/Lib but I like this. Communication is one area I think the US government should help subsidize like they done with the US Postal Service, as communication is needed for a health Democracy. But why stop at phones add some internet access too.
2012-09-28 10:39:12 AM  
1 vote:
Lets see, in order to qualify you also need to be on one of these as programs as well...

Federal Public Housing Assistance (FPHA) or Section 8
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), formerly known as Food Stamps
Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
National School Lunch (free program only)
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)

yeah, doesn't sound like people who can't afford cellular service...moochers...
2012-09-28 10:36:28 AM  
1 vote:
Vote for romney, you may not agree with him now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring!
2012-09-28 10:29:46 AM  
1 vote:

MyRandomName: The video was to mock a certain segment of Obama voters, not to claim Obama created the free phone initiative.

God you leftists are idiots sometimes. Not everything that happens needs an Obama defense squad. The lady in the video had obvious ignorant reasons for voting for Obama. You are allowed to admit not all voters are intelligent. Obama doesn't need your protecting.

Yes, the article was in no way trying to create a negative feeling towards Obama. Right.
2012-09-28 10:25:48 AM  
1 vote:
we must stop the poor from having access to communication, and food. and healthcare. and housing. to you name it
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