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(American Thinker)   The closer we get to Election Day, the more apparent it is that Obama is not only losing, but losing big   (americanthinker.com) divider line 80
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2012-09-28 08:30:12 AM
6 votes:

Three Crooked Squirrels: For those that don't want to click a Stinker article, let me summarize: "The polls showing Obama with 50+% of the vote are clearly wrong because 100% of the people writing this article are voting for Romney. How can you possibly, in good conscience, reconcile polls that show Obama with over 50% of the vote with the unassailable fact that 100% of the people writing this article are going to vote for Romney?"


Even that's not true. I'd bet that only around 5% of people voting in November will actually vote for Romney. The rest are going to vote either for Obama or against Obama.
2012-09-28 07:43:40 AM
6 votes:
Well then... I guess I'd better vote.

Thank you, American Thinker, for alerting me to this. I'd hate it if Obama lost.
2012-09-28 08:14:42 AM
5 votes:
I just spent a week in Texas, and I learned a lot while down there. First off: They HATE Obama, and I mean HATE. They will spend hours railing against his policies, his person, his administration, but really don't want to talk about anything else. I brought up the Democratic Congress, and the majority of the people were: Meh... but that Obama sucks! Secondly, they don't think Mitt is the right guy for the job. But, at least he's not Obama. They are embarrassed by Mitt, don't want to talk about him, refer to him as 'the Republican candidate' and refuse to talk about subjects revolving around him.

Lastly, there was something very eye opening about the whole affair. When I brought up hard data and facts, they outright refused to believe them. When I showed it to them, their statement was: "Facts are something Liberals use when they don't like the truth." To them, facts and truth are 2 separate entities, and facts are a liberal agenda.

When I said the fact was Obama was going to win this election, the overall consensus was: Yeah, he is, and it sucks, because I hate him.

Truth of all this is the Republicans deserve a better candidate than Romney, and they know it. Even the RNC knows this and they know they weren't going to oust Obama from office, so they are banking of the 2016 election. This information comes from deep in the heart of Texas from hardcore, lifelong Republicans. They know the scorecard and are simply making noise about the election because they always do, not because they believe in their candidate. Those that are serious about Romney actually having a chance are deluded and don't speak for 'true Republicans'.

My thoughts: The Republican party is too fractured right now, and Mitt is trying to pander to them all while still trying to collect votes from the middle and is losing 2 votes for every one he grabs. He's not so much giving the votes to Obama, the people just won't hit the polls (or so they say). With politics these days, everyone will show up in droves to put a check next to the name with a (D) or (R), regardless of the policies.

I will, once again, abstain, as I don't think either candidate has what we need.
2012-09-28 07:36:12 AM
5 votes:
There are FOUR lights.
2012-09-28 01:42:09 PM
4 votes:

Richard Flaccid: Although I think that Romney is toast. It would be a glorious day on FARK if he were to somehow pull off the upset. Not as good of a day as Nov. 3, 2004, but still a good day.



yeah, Bush's second term worked out great for all of us.

your post sums up the modern RW mentality pretty well.
Is it good for the country? who cares as long as libs are pissed, yay!
2012-09-28 09:00:36 AM
4 votes:

UberDave: HST's Dead Carcass: I just spent a week in Texas, and I learned a lot while down there. First off: They HATE Obama, and I mean HATE. They will spend hours railing against his policies, his person, his administration, but really don't want to talk about anything else.

Tell me about it. Growing up in NE Houston, my FB news feed makes American Thinker look like the New Yorker. Hate is a mild word. There's people who will post links to right-wing BS then state they don't believe 90% of the media. I had one centered friend tell another about the USS Liberty Incident (they had been ranting about Obama not meeting with PM Netanyahu and the subject came up) and they pretty much refused to believe it.

What's amazing is that many of them are very religious and any other day wouldn't hesitate to tell you about how Mormonism is an abomination and a cult. And what really sucks it that this hate you describe pretty much ruins family gatherings.


Stop going to them. Just because you accidentally share an ancestor with some farkwit doesn't mean you have to like them.
2012-09-28 07:59:10 AM
4 votes:
I can only assume that the author regularly shiats in their pants, lets it stew for a while, then rummages through it looking for new thoughts.
2012-09-28 07:58:17 AM
4 votes:

Krymson Tyde: I found this, from the Weeners, quite amusing:

I believe that Romney will win, mostly because Obama is so predictable. Romney is practiced in self-control, while Obama is a loose cannon. Obama, even with the biased Fourth Estate cheer-leading him on, will blow it in the debates. He, (Obama), has an underlying anger about him. He can not stand challenges from anyone.

I think maybe this guy has confused the candidates with one another.


I don't think it's a case of mistaking one for the other:
sullysrental.com
2012-09-28 07:53:49 AM
4 votes:
I found this, from the Weeners, quite amusing:

I believe that Romney will win, mostly because Obama is so predictable. Romney is practiced in self-control, while Obama is a loose cannon. Obama, even with the biased Fourth Estate cheer-leading him on, will blow it in the debates. He, (Obama), has an underlying anger about him. He can not stand challenges from anyone.

I think maybe this guy has confused the candidates with one another.
2012-09-28 12:45:56 PM
3 votes:
Two threads?

www.mindhuestudio.com
2012-09-28 12:26:14 PM
3 votes:
Conservative historical revisionists are no longer waiting for things to become history.....they are trying to revise reality.
2012-09-28 12:14:20 PM
3 votes:

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Krymson Tyde: He, (Obama), has an underlying anger about him.

It's nice that we haven't abandoned the classics, like "angry black man".


I still get a kick out of the fact that Dinesh D'Souza and his dittoheads try to paint Obama as a scary anti-colonial, just like his father, when the entire country is founded on anti-colonialism.
2012-09-28 10:18:53 AM
3 votes:

Hollie Maea: From our friends over at Free Republic:

It does appear then that Ras is using a significant dem oversample model.

If Romney leads by 4 with Indies and leads GOPers more than 0buma lead Rats, then this is a skewed poll.

Et tu, Ras?


/Don't ban me, mods. I don't regularly quote Free Republic, but this is too good to pass up.


List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Community Organizers
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Climatologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Satan
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable news except FNC
The New York Times
The LA Times
The Washington Post
The Associated Press
Reuters
BBC
The Guardian
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
ACORN
National Endowment for the Arts
Gays
Judges
NPR
Paleontologists
Astrophysicists
Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
WHO
WTO
Inflated tires
The Honolulu Advertiser
The Star Bulletin
Teletubbies
Sponge Bob and Patrick
Nobel Prize Committee
US Census Bureau
NOAA
Sesame Street
Comic Books
Little Green Footballs
Video Games
The Bible
CBO
Bruce Springsteen
Pennies
The Theory of Relativity
Comedy Central
Young People
whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
Small Business Owners
Math
CPAC
Navy SEALs
The Economist
The Muppets
Iowa Republicans
Low-Flow Toilets
Breast Cancer Screenings
Chrysler
Clint Eastwood.
Robert Deniro
Tom Hanks
Glenn Frey
Norman Rockwell
James Cameron
Dr. Seus
Nuns
Supreme Court Justice John Roberts
Jonathan Krohn at age 17
Fact Checkers
Australia
Mitt Romney
Rasmussen
2012-09-28 07:43:01 AM
3 votes:
Uh huh. You keep telling yourself that.
2012-09-28 02:43:16 PM
2 votes:
Lurkers: Keep watching. You'll see lantawa, who claims to have made a "rational decision" to vote for Mitt Romney is unable to answer what should be a simple question, "what do you like about Mitt Romney?" Look closely.
2012-09-28 01:06:17 PM
2 votes:

G. Tarrant: Frankly I want Obama to win not just because I think he's a better choice but also because I want those billionaires that gave hundreds of millions - Adelson, Koch, etc. - to have all that money go down the drain and show that there might (might) just be a limit to how much of an election you can buy.


The best part is that this money didn't just go down the drain but it did get taken out of their own bank accounts. It went into the economy and created thousands of jobs and economic stimulus. Ironic that in the end they helped Obama with his jobs numbers.
2012-09-28 12:58:09 PM
2 votes:

mrshowrules: brianbankerus: mrshowrules: LOL. Seriously though, he won't break 200. I don't even think he will get more than McCain did in 2008.

I think he will. He'll carry Indiana and that one oddball mid-state district, where izzat, Missouri? He'll get at least those.

Florida is still too close for my comfort. And I suspect we're at a high-point in the race. I don't think the lead will continue to extend. Obama has picked up almost all of the independents. Not many more to capture, and he's not about to flip a Romneyjerk.

With Indiana and Missouri he only has 191. I honestly expect him to slide 2 to 4 additional points in popularity polling after the 3 debates +1 VP debate. Americans love to vote for a winner.


This. For those asking "Why, if they want Republicans to really be scared and motivated to go vote for Romney, don't they warn he's going to lose if they don't rather than try to convince them he's leading by a shiatload?", this is the answer.

When it comes to politics, Americans like to be on the winning side. Often times people would rather not vote than vote for a loser. If your guy is behind and you come out and say "I need your support to catch up!" people stop donating money, time, effort because they don't want it to be futile. Hence UnskewedPolls and articles like this trying to convince people that he really is winning - and most of them not only trying to argue a modest win (which a bit of data massaging might be able to be done), but a 400+ EV stomping not seen since 1984 (since if you're going to make up data, may as well go all the way).

Frankly I want Obama to win not just because I think he's a better choice but also because I want those billionaires that gave hundreds of millions - Adelson, Koch, etc. - to have all that money go down the drain and show that there might (might) just be a limit to how much of an election you can buy.
2012-09-28 12:52:56 PM
2 votes:

Serpentile6: I spent the entirety of yesterday being subjected to this first hand between a co-worker and client. My co-worker absolutely refuses to believe any fact that shows Obama winning, but cannot say anything positive regarding Mitt without it including something about him not being Obama. When he thought it would be amusing to watch me squirm he brought up the fact that I was a Obama supporter in front of a client who had already declared his hate for sitting President.


Every time I see a post like this, I think to myself "Where do you people work?"

If I started arguing politics with a co-worker, we'd both almost certainly be, if not reprimanded, at least shunned by our colleagues. If I started arguing politics with a client, I'd probably be fired on the spot.

Maybe it's just the business I work in, but I can't conceive of any possible situation where arguing with co-workers or clients about politics would be seen as acceptable.

Is this some kind of regional thing? I live in the upper Midwest and I've never worked a corporate job in my life where people talked about politics. I've worked in plenty of menial labor jobs where people did, but never in any office environment.
2012-09-28 12:48:51 PM
2 votes:

Smackledorfer: If you believe dems are shifting away from center ive got a bridge to sell you.


They are shifting further to the right to fill the void of the Republicans shifting to the extreme right.

So in that sense, he's accurate. But they're certainly not shifting to the left.
2012-09-28 12:38:50 PM
2 votes:
I need to quit this engineering shiat and be a writer for right-wing rag. It looks easy.

shiat on my laptop, fold it closed and drop it off to my editor.
2012-09-28 12:19:12 PM
2 votes:
t0.gstatic.com

"So in effect, this is not a humiliating defeat at all, but a rare species of victory?"~Cato
2012-09-28 12:15:28 PM
2 votes:
Well, if by "lose" you mean "condemned to spend another four years in a thankless job, battling an obstructionist, partisan Congress", then yes, he is losing, big time.
2012-09-28 12:14:21 PM
2 votes:
The very Weeners: "I believe that Romney will win, mostly because Obama is so predictable. Romney is practiced in self-control, while Obama is a loose cannon."

Because loose cannon = predictable.

Welcome to the new GOP, where as long as it is anti-Obama, any and every position is valid all at the same time.

Romney could stand on stage and whack his schlong against the podium with one hand, while throwing feces at the crowd with the other and he'd still get over 200 Electoral votes.
2012-09-28 12:13:43 PM
2 votes:

Krymson Tyde: Obama is so predictable.


Krymson Tyde: Obama is a loose cannon.


This is my favorite part of that dimwit's thought process. He managed to write those two statements with only 6 words separating them and didn't see any problems.

The dimwit being the author of the comment, not Krymson Tyde.
2012-09-28 11:42:15 AM
2 votes:

HST's Dead Carcass: I will, once again, abstain, as I don't think either candidate has what we need.


Low voter turnout favors Republican candidates, so you not voting is indirectly voting for the Republicans.

Your not-voting is still a vote of sorts.
2012-09-28 10:42:33 AM
2 votes:
If anything, the closer we get to Election Day, the more apparent it is that Obama is not only losing, but losing big. The Obama campaign, and by "campaign" I mean members of the media and polling organizations, is trying to convince prospective Romney voters to believe that all is lost -- in which case, they hope, we will stay home.

I wonder how they're going to handle it when Obama gets sworn in for a second term? do you think they'll crack up completely or find a way to come to terms with a reality they've feared for 2 years now...?
2012-09-28 10:26:58 AM
2 votes:

Mentat: We have THE Math!


Wait until Republicans realize that math is a science.
2012-09-28 10:09:23 AM
2 votes:
i45.tinypic.com

ahem.
2012-09-28 09:11:13 AM
2 votes:

Aarontology: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The closer we get to Election Day, the more hysterical these f*ckwits get

/Next week should be a virtual laugh riot

I can't wait till the week after the election when reality sets in.

the reality that Obama will be President again, not the self deluded "reality" they've constructed for themselves.


He will have won by fraud; he won't be the rightful President and we'll be an occupied nation. This is EXACTLY what they'll say, give or take a few epithets.
2012-09-28 08:35:36 AM
2 votes:
The closer we get to Election Day, the more hysterical these f*ckwits get

/Next week should be a virtual laugh riot
2012-09-28 08:26:50 AM
2 votes:
For those that don't want to click a Stinker article, let me summarize: "The polls showing Obama with 50+% of the vote are clearly wrong because 100% of the people writing this article are voting for Romney. How can you possibly, in good conscience, reconcile polls that show Obama with over 50% of the vote with the unassailable fact that 100% of the people writing this article are going to vote for Romney?"
2012-09-28 03:41:28 PM
1 votes:

lantawa: unexplained bacon: I asked you to tell me what you like about Mitt after you claim to have made a rational decision to vote for him, that's it. Now I'm Obama spam.

Yes. you are an Obamaton spammaster. You could care less what my views are, and I'm not interested in "discussing" anything with you. If that grates on your attention-whoring nerves, then you should probably plonk me. In the meantime, if there are plentiful lurkers out there, then watch closely what multiple alts and dogmatists are enacting as an attack on me.

MMMmmmmmmmm.....baaacccoonnnnn

As I said before, peruse many news sources, conservative and liberal. Don't be fooled by the Obama shills. don't be fooled by me, if I am in fact displaying some subconsciously gross preference for Mitt Romney (I don't think I am, but that's for you to decide) . don't be a weak-minded fool. think carefully and long before you vote. Tune out the Obama dogma machine. tune me out. Think for yourselves. Do it!




but I do care, that's why I asked. Why are you shutting me out? I'd really enjoy a rational discussion with you. Don't be mad, be rational.

name a Romney policy proposal that you like, just one.
I've been to his website a few times, and I know he's got a list (short on details IMO), you could start there.

you know, I think the lurkers may have noted your inability to say one positive thing about Mitt.
I tend to think you want to say what you think, but you fear criticism. This is fark, who cares? honestly.

go on, let it out.
2012-09-28 03:26:39 PM
1 votes:
My only hope is that they can steal the election from the masses. If they can make you assholes believe Romney won, then you'll have to learn about your entire government.
2012-09-28 03:13:03 PM
1 votes:

Serpentile6: My problem is that this sort of etiquette seems to have been lost. I try to avoid this sort of conversation but you would be surprised at the number of people that continually bring it up, then refuse to let it go. You say something along the lines of, " I'm not comfortable discussing that" and instantly get attacked for them assuming you're the "enemy".


"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." ~ Winston Churchill
2012-09-28 03:04:32 PM
1 votes:

lantawa: unexplained bacon: = Obamaton spam 
[i466.photobucket.com image 500x375] 

(This goes for all the other copious alts and Obama political machine trolls in all of the Politics threads)


A reason to vote for Romney is harder to find than a Spam image. Duly noted.
2012-09-28 03:03:36 PM
1 votes:

lantawa: unexplained bacon: = Obamaton spam 
[i466.photobucket.com image 500x375] 

(This goes for all the other copious alts and Obama political machine trolls in all of the Politics threads)



that's not very rational.

I asked you to tell me what you like about Mitt after you claim to have made a rational decision to vote for him, that's it. Now I'm Obama spam.

lol

seriously, is there anything you actually like about Mitt? one thing? his hair maybe?
2012-09-28 02:51:04 PM
1 votes:

MSFT: unexplained bacon: Lurkers: Keep watching. You'll see lantawa, who claims to have made a "rational decision" to vote for Mitt Romney is unable to answer what should be a simple question, "what do you like about Mitt Romney?" Look closely.

It isn't rational if you can't show your math.
Sorry kids, but that's why you get graded on that when you do your homework.


I'm honestly hoping he's putting a nice rational post together right now.

It seems as if he wanted to claim he came to Mitt through some enlightened logical process, while avoiding any sort of critique of it by saying he doesn't want to debate.

I can't help but conclude his rational decision wasn't.
2012-09-28 02:37:01 PM
1 votes:

Fry's 100th Cup of Coffee: Austin, TX reporting in here. While what you say is true for rural Texas and large parts of the developed north of Texas, south Texas is becomingly increasingly Democratic due to the large and rapidly growing segment of hispanic voters. (Link).

While there is a lot of irrational Obama hate here, the counties are turning Blue (red on the map) for Democrats faster than anticipated, and Texas will likely be a swing state within the next 10-15 years by most relevant analyses. And of course, our beloved capitol city remains an island of sanity in a vast sea of withering mental retardation. There's hope yet.

/carry on


Texas is especially messed up on account of all the redistricting shenanigans the Lege has pulled off in the past decade. Even with federal oversight, that's really skewed things severely and will take a lot to correct.
2012-09-28 02:34:05 PM
1 votes:

lantawa: unexplained bacon: lantawa: And I think that rational decision indicates that Mitt Romney is the correct candidate to vote for

ok? I'm asking you to explain you rational decision. How did you come to this opinion?

what's your favorite Romney policy proposal?

or is it that you just don't like Obama's ideas? which ones?

You're not feeling me. From my earlier post, a copy/pasta:

(We're not debating. I am telling undecideds to look closely, think carefully, and access themselves to a wide variety of news sources in order to come to a rational decision of who to vote for. And I think that rational decision indicates that Mitt Romney is the correct candidate to vote for. Each undecided person who may be lurking has their decision to make.)



I got that. I'm asking you why you came to the rational decision that Mitt Romney is the correct candidate to vote for. You must have reasons at the top of your head if you really thought carefully and came to a rational decision.

bust out some rational pro-Mitt facts would you?
2012-09-28 02:28:28 PM
1 votes:
Which political party do you believe is more likely to practice vote scamming, vote fraud or other methods of stuffing the ballot boxes?

You mean like the ones that just got convicted? Definitely the Republican Party!

Which political party do you believe is more likely to support government programs or spending that are basically efforts to spend tax dollars to buy votes in the elections?

Worthless projects that the DOD doesn't even want count right? Definately the Republican Party once again!
2012-09-28 02:24:47 PM
1 votes:

DeusMeh: hey guys, i think to show unskewedpolls/qstar that theres no hard feelings and we wish them the best...could we all just take about 5 mins to fill out their poll??

Link


Those questions got more and more shiatty toward the end.

But I did my part to "unskew" the polls.
2012-09-28 02:23:42 PM
1 votes:

lantawa: And I think that rational decision indicates that Mitt Romney is the correct candidate to vote for


ok? I'm asking you to explain you rational decision. How did you come to this opinion?

what's your favorite Romney policy proposal?

or is it that you just don't like Obama's ideas? which ones?
2012-09-28 02:22:44 PM
1 votes:

lantawa: Satanic_Hamster: Someone once said that polite society doesn't discuss politics or religion at work or at the dinner table. And ESPECIALLY not in front of clients.

True that.... about five years ago I really pissed off a charismatic religious person when I made fun of speaking in tongues and being "slain in the spirit". Who'd have known she was a holy roller? Learned my lesson that day....


I make a sincere effort to respect other people's personal beliefs, but at the same time, I genuinely feel sad for people that can't laugh at themselves. What a long, hard life that must be.
2012-09-28 02:19:56 PM
1 votes:

bullwrinkle: if Romney wins the butthurt on fark will be epic nuclear

[www.moreawesomethanyou.com image 304x161]
/fat lady and all that


I remember you!

www.madmann.com
2012-09-28 01:47:07 PM
1 votes:

lantawa: Lurkers: Keep watching. You'll see the pattern that I earlier described. Look closely.


what's your favorite Romney policy proposal?

what do you hope Romney will do in his first 90 days?

/trolls hate this stuff, let's see if you can break that pattern
2012-09-28 01:23:33 PM
1 votes:

HST's Dead Carcass: Truth of all this is the Republicans deserve a better candidate than Romney, and they know it.


No, they really don't. They are actually lucky they have Romney because as a party they're awful, awful people.
2012-09-28 01:10:34 PM
1 votes:

CynicalLA: What is the end game here? This is some scary shiat and a lot of people are going to really angry come election day.


Cassandra here, and very sorry I canceled that tryst with that deity.

Look, the wingnuts have established that Romney CANNOT LOSE. Therefore, when Obama wins in November, it can ONLY BE because he stole the election. That will be the only possible reason--massive voter fraud in all 50 states, plus territories and overseas installations.

Therefore, the scaremongers and haters have already laid the groundwork for the huge swell of popular support they're going to need to force a recount of the ballots, not just in one contested state with a weird voting system like last time: No, they're going to want to suspend the results for the whole country, and put the election in limbo for the time it will take to hand-count and verify EVERY SINGLE BALLOT. In order to force that many courts' hands, the dolts pushing this agenda must have an appearance of massive popular backing and the "will of the people" behind them--and this is how they're doing it. They're creating a twin scenario for their gullible audience: 1) that Obama is losing, everywhere and enormously, and b) that there is rampant voter fraud being perpetrated by the liberals.

While they're doing this, these fascists will be working feverishly to consolidate whatever power they got in Congress and the courts, to engender doubt in the minds of the Supreme Court, which will eventually have to decide what to do (and in this case, legitimately) and their lawyers will be working double-overtime to try to cobble together a reason why, at the very best, Joe Biden will have to be President because Obama somehow rigged the election and can't serve until his case is tried.

If any of this comes true, I'll expect a temple to be raised to me and 59 virgin male slaves sacrificed daily to my altar, assuming any of us survive the carnage.
2012-09-28 12:50:01 PM
1 votes:

Serpentile6:

I spent the entirety of yesterday being subjected to this first hand between a co-worker and client. My co-worker absolutely refuses to believe any fact that shows Obama winning, but cannot say anything positive regarding Mitt without it including something about him not being Obama. When he thought it would be amusing to watch me squirm he brought up the fact that I was a Obama supporter in front of a client who had already declared his hate for sitting President. After about 45 minutes of being a political punching bag I couldn't take it anymore regardless of what the client thought of me. When I started asking very direct questions about Rmoney's policies, stances, and overall platform neither of the two could answer me on them, all they could spit forth was anti-Obama vitriol that had little to no substance to it. Trying to quote facts from the polls, interviews, or any other source of information was beyond useless because the government has the LIBERAL MEDIA (which I must have heard said near 100 times) in their pockets and just makes the numbers up to show Obama ahead. At the end of this headache my coworker says to the client, " Well just think only another few more weeks and this nightmare may finally be over".


I have a few Republican, err, umm, "friends" that do this. All have said that the polls are by the Librul Media and that Romney will win an a "landslide". I then asked each of them if they would like to make a little wager. Nope. Not even 5 bucks. Not even a buck.

The Rovian/ Breitbart lie machine apparently ends at their wallets. They only parrot the spin, but their wallets tell them otherwise. Try it, it's surprisingly fun.
2012-09-28 12:47:11 PM
1 votes:

Fat Old Broad: I don't know if they resist logic because it's too painful to let go of one's sacred cows, or if I'm dealing with some sort of weird Dunning-Kruger, or just plain old cognitive dissonance. It really don't get it.


Confirmation bias. The natural tendency of people to seek out information that jibes with their beliefs, and ignore information that contradicts it. It's a filter that's standard equipment in the human model. An internal echo-chamber, if you will.

The easiest way to counteract its effects is to ask yourself, repeatedly, "In what ways am I wrong?" and seek out honest answers. However, the natural tendency is to ask yourself, repeatedly, "What else can I learn to reinforce my belief that I'm right?" and to do just that.
2012-09-28 12:43:37 PM
1 votes:

God Is My Co-Pirate: I know I shouldn't complain about the tag, because welcome to fark, but seriously, "interesting"?


We don't have a "blithering motherf*cking idiots" tag yet.
2012-09-28 12:41:17 PM
1 votes:

ManateeGag: what are these people on? seriously.

By their logic, the Mets still have a shot at making the playoffs.


It's not gonna be pretty when Obama wins on the 6th.

People love voting for a winner. It's when someone is a loser they don't bother showing up to vote.

I really wish I was in a position to research and see if people really don't vote because the guy they support was going to win, or if they just use that as an excuse for not exercising the most basic of civic duties?

I can definitely see the demoralizing effect it has on your opponent, hence these alternate reality blogs we see popping up to try and convince Republicans to vote.

//I saw my first Romney/Ryan yard sign!!! I've seen lots of signs supporting the Republican running for Congress, but only one supporting the RR ticket.
2012-09-28 12:40:48 PM
1 votes:
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2012-09-28 12:39:57 PM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Hollie Maea: mrshowrules: All of cable news except FNC

You're going to have to take off the "except FNC" part.

Link

Ok. Correction is made but this is getting out of hand so I am officially proposing the List of People Who Are Not Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPWANCATGOPATA for short):

LOPWANCATGOPATA:

Free Republic
Rush Limbaugh
Joe Scarborough (under review)
Bill O'Reilly
Glenn Beck
Michelle Bachman
Rick Santorum
Newt Gingrich (under review)
NRA
Tea Party
Fred Phelps
UnSkewed Polls.com


The Nuge
2012-09-28 12:28:18 PM
1 votes:

HST's Dead Carcass: I just spent a week in Texas, and I learned a lot while down there. First off: They HATE Obama, and I mean HATE. They will spend hours railing against his policies, his person, his administration, but really don't want to talk about anything else. I brought up the Democratic Congress, and the majority of the people were: Meh... but that Obama sucks! Secondly, they don't think Mitt is the right guy for the job. But, at least he's not Obama. They are embarrassed by Mitt, don't want to talk about him, refer to him as 'the Republican candidate' and refuse to talk about subjects revolving around him.

Lastly, there was something very eye opening about the whole affair. When I brought up hard data and facts, they outright refused to believe them. When I showed it to them, their statement was: "Facts are something Liberals use when they don't like the truth." To them, facts and truth are 2 separate entities, and facts are a liberal agenda.

When I said the fact was Obama was going to win this election, the overall consensus was: Yeah, he is, and it sucks, because I hate him.

Truth of all this is the Republicans deserve a better candidate than Romney, and they know it. Even the RNC knows this and they know they weren't going to oust Obama from office, so they are banking of the 2016 election. This information comes from deep in the heart of Texas from hardcore, lifelong Republicans. They know the scorecard and are simply making noise about the election because they always do, not because they believe in their candidate. Those that are serious about Romney actually having a chance are deluded and don't speak for 'true Republicans'.

My thoughts: The Republican party is too fractured right now, and Mitt is trying to pander to them all while still trying to collect votes from the middle and is losing 2 votes for every one he grabs. He's not so much giving the votes to Obama, the people just won't hit the polls (or so they say). With politics these days, everyon ...


This! So much this.

I spent the entirety of yesterday being subjected to this first hand between a co-worker and client. My co-worker absolutely refuses to believe any fact that shows Obama winning, but cannot say anything positive regarding Mitt without it including something about him not being Obama. When he thought it would be amusing to watch me squirm he brought up the fact that I was a Obama supporter in front of a client who had already declared his hate for sitting President. After about 45 minutes of being a political punching bag I couldn't take it anymore regardless of what the client thought of me. When I started asking very direct questions about Rmoney's policies, stances, and overall platform neither of the two could answer me on them, all they could spit forth was anti-Obama vitriol that had little to no substance to it. Trying to quote facts from the polls, interviews, or any other source of information was beyond useless because the government has the LIBERAL MEDIA (which I must have heard said near 100 times) in their pockets and just makes the numbers up to show Obama ahead. At the end of this headache my coworker says to the client, " Well just think only another few more weeks and this nightmare may finally be over" to which I responded to both, "You guys are about to have a hard time sleeping for the next 4 years" and walked out.

To be honest with you, at this point all I feel for these people is pity. You can't argue with them, all you end up with is a headache. You can't inform them they'll call you a liar. You can't even compromise with them. It is a very sad reality they live in and one that is quickly coming to an end. More than anything it reminds me of a drug user trying so desperately to get one last hit all the while knowing that it's cashed out and that withdrawal isn't far behind.

Sad really.
2012-09-28 12:20:03 PM
1 votes:
NO AMERICAN THINKER!

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!
2012-09-28 12:18:58 PM
1 votes:
bluurb.files.wordpress.com

That's the spirit, George. If nothing else works, then a
total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face
will see us through.
2012-09-28 12:13:56 PM
1 votes:
EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. Do they (crazy people) ever get tired of being wrong about pretty much everything? I mean, eventually you have to reach a moment of clarity where you realize that you've been wrong about all the horrible things that you thought would happen, right? The FEMA camps, the martial law, the gun grabbing, the suspended elections, the hyper-inflation, the personal armies, the sanctity of marriage, the military rendered ineffective by the ghey, trickle-down economics, I mean it has to kick in eventually right? RIGHT?
2012-09-28 12:12:55 PM
1 votes:

dr_blasto: Lando Lincoln: HST's Dead Carcass: I will, once again, abstain, as I don't think either candidate has what we need.

Low voter turnout favors Republican candidates, so you not voting is indirectly voting for the Republicans.

Your not-voting is still a vote of sorts.

So, even if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice?


Kinda. It's more like statistics has made a choice for you.

But ultimately, choosing to not vote is a way of telling politicians that you don't really care what they do to you, or you feel powerless to stop them from doing whatever they like to you. That's not a good message to send to politicians.
2012-09-28 12:10:59 PM
1 votes:

FriarReb98: As long as there are two Republican parties and people want to equate the Tea Party Republicans with EVERY Republican, then the party is farked. Not that that makes Mitt someone even the most sane and un-Teatardish Republican wants to elect, but still.

In general, the parties are just plain losing touch with reality. Seems like both sides are shifting AWAY from center when it's obvious that's exactly what we don't need. We need compromise, we need moderation, and we need to not argue over every last little petty procedural point in every last vote. Either that, or we need to split up and let the more extreme wings take their halves of the country and prove each other wrong (which, almost invariably, they'll both fail at).


True, the democrats should ALSO stop shifting rightward, away from the center...
2012-09-28 12:08:57 PM
1 votes:

JusticeandIndependence: Articles By William L. Gensert

It's Over
The Audacity of These Dopes
The Empty Chair Is Losing
The Empty Chair Accepts His Nomination
The Problem with Barack
The 1% Solution
The Other White Meat
Romney Rising
Surviving Obama
Once a Liar...
Take Off the Gloves, Mitt
Still a BFD, Obama Loses
Obama the Tragedy
Obama as Farce
Obama's Endless Energy
Barack's People
Breitbart Barack
How Iran Could Save America
Obama, the Great
Obama's Dismal Job Performance
The Transformational Tyrant
Obama: America's Greatest Asset
America's Greatness Will Defeat Obama
Neuter Obama
Barack Has a Record
Beat Back Barack
Obama, the Dream
A Disastrous Presidency
Iran's Quiet War
Drop Dead Date for Disaster
Racism, Injustice, and the Left


OK then.


so he's a coont
2012-09-28 12:08:31 PM
1 votes:
But what is he losing? Because it certainly isn't going to be the election.
2012-09-28 12:07:09 PM
1 votes:
Apparent? To whom, and how?
2012-09-28 12:05:52 PM
1 votes:
[ohwaityoureseriousletmelaughevenharder.jpg]
2012-09-28 12:05:46 PM
1 votes:
You know what wingnuts, keep pushing this angle. You'll inspire the undecided voters into making sure they come out and vote Obama to keep your crazy pants nominee out of office...
2012-09-28 12:04:19 PM
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: HST's Dead Carcass: I will, once again, abstain, as I don't think either candidate has what we need.

Low voter turnout favors Republican candidates, so you not voting is indirectly voting for the Republicans.

Your not-voting is still a vote of sorts.


So, even if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice?
2012-09-28 12:04:07 PM
1 votes:
imageshack.us
2012-09-28 12:01:23 PM
1 votes:
graphics8.nytimes.com
2012-09-28 11:35:00 AM
1 votes:
sensuouscurmudgeon.files.wordpress.com
2012-09-28 10:51:10 AM
1 votes:

Weaver95: If anything, the closer we get to Election Day, the more apparent it is that Obama is not only losing, but losing big. The Obama campaign, and by "campaign" I mean members of the media and polling organizations, is trying to convince prospective Romney voters to believe that all is lost -- in which case, they hope, we will stay home.

I wonder how they're going to handle it when Obama gets sworn in for a second term? do you think they'll crack up completely or find a way to come to terms with a reality they've feared for 2 years now...?


I think most will find a way to deal with it, most likely though they will be yelling about election fraud and the need for more voter restriction. But I think there will be a few that completely crack up.
2012-09-28 10:49:34 AM
1 votes:

Hollie Maea: mrshowrules: All of cable news except FNC

You're going to have to take off the "except FNC" part.

Link


Ok. Correction is made but this is getting out of hand so I am officially proposing the List of People Who Are Not Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPWANCATGOPATA for short):

LOPWANCATGOPATA:

Free Republic
Rush Limbaugh
Joe Scarborough (under review)
Bill O'Reilly
Glenn Beck
Michelle Bachman
Rick Santorum
Newt Gingrich (under review)
NRA
Tea Party
Fred Phelps
UnSkewed Polls.com
2012-09-28 10:48:23 AM
1 votes:
As long as there are two Republican parties and people want to equate the Tea Party Republicans with EVERY Republican, then the party is farked. Not that that makes Mitt someone even the most sane and un-Teatardish Republican wants to elect, but still.

In general, the parties are just plain losing touch with reality. Seems like both sides are shifting AWAY from center when it's obvious that's exactly what we don't need. We need compromise, we need moderation, and we need to not argue over every last little petty procedural point in every last vote. Either that, or we need to split up and let the more extreme wings take their halves of the country and prove each other wrong (which, almost invariably, they'll both fail at).
2012-09-28 09:54:21 AM
1 votes:

Krymson Tyde: GAT_00: Sounds like someone needs a punch in the statisticals.

Rasmussen can give you all the leads you want. But when it's the only one doing so, you're probably not right.

Rasmussen has it as a dead heat now.


Rasmussen has Obama up by a point this morning. I can't wait for the guy from unskewedpolls.com to fix it using...Rasmussen's demographic data.
2012-09-28 09:51:48 AM
1 votes:

Krymson Tyde: I believe that Romney will win, mostly because Obama is so predictable. Romney is practiced in self-control, while Obama is a loose cannon. Obama, even with the biased Fourth Estate cheer-leading him on, will blow it in the debates. He, (Obama), has an underlying anger about him. He can not stand challenges from anyone.


this is literally the opposite of the truth.

blog.zap2it.com

literally.
2012-09-28 09:37:04 AM
1 votes:

SilentStrider: Uh huh. You keep telling yourself that.


I'd tell them to lay back and take it easy because it's in the bag for them but on I don't want Romney to stop saying things.
2012-09-28 09:22:33 AM
1 votes:

God Is My Co-Pirate: I know I shouldn't complain about the tag, because welcome to fark, but seriously, "interesting"?


It is indeed interesting to laugh at these people and their rejection of objective, observable reality
2012-09-28 09:16:51 AM
1 votes:

dr_blasto: He will have won by fraud; he won't be the rightful President and we'll be an occupied nation. This is EXACTLY what they'll say, give or take a few epithets.


Yeah, you're probably right.

I think the whole "polls all being part of the plot" thing is part of the groundwork for that.
2012-09-28 08:31:30 AM
1 votes:

HST's Dead Carcass: I just spent a week in Texas, and I learned a lot while down there. First off: They HATE Obama, and I mean HATE. They will spend hours railing against his policies, his person, his administration, but really don't want to talk about anything else.


Tell me about it. Growing up in NE Houston, my FB news feed makes American Thinker look like the New Yorker. Hate is a mild word. There's people who will post links to right-wing BS then state they don't believe 90% of the media. I had one centered friend tell another about the USS Liberty Incident (they had been ranting about Obama not meeting with PM Netanyahu and the subject came up) and they pretty much refused to believe it.

What's amazing is that many of them are very religious and any other day wouldn't hesitate to tell you about how Mormonism is an abomination and a cult. And what really sucks it that this hate you describe pretty much ruins family gatherings.
2012-09-28 08:03:42 AM
1 votes:
Sounds like someone needs a punch in the statisticals.

Rasmussen can give you all the leads you want. But when it's the only one doing so, you're probably not right.
2012-09-28 07:53:09 AM
1 votes:
what are these people on? seriously.

By their logic, the Mets still have a shot at making the playoffs.
2012-09-28 07:42:48 AM
1 votes:
Wow...
 
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