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2012-09-28 04:20:55 PM  

mrshowrules: DeArmondVI: mrshowrules: dietbubba: What about Victoria Jackson and John Voight?

done

Craig T. Nelson?

Or is he a librul plant.

Can't we just have "dumb celebrities" as an entry? I'm developing repetitive stress disorder in my wrists.


I don't think that's from the entries.
 
2012-09-28 04:21:21 PM  

EighthDay: Fry's 100th Cup of Coffee: Texas's electoral votes are a juicy prize, however, and that's why the redistricting here is so particularly vile.

I've never really looked into the in-state EV process, but rather the overall electoral college.

Are EVs determined by district wins, rather than overall state?

For example, if 51% of the state voted for the Democrat, but 5 out of 9 districts voted Republican due to gerrymandering, would the state then go D or R?

Or is it different state by state?

And how does that work in Texas?

I tried to find out myself, but my google-fu is weak.


Texas is winner take all. 51% would not be impacted by districts, unlike NE where electoral delegates vote their district.
 
2012-09-28 04:21:57 PM  

EighthDay: Fry's 100th Cup of Coffee: Texas's electoral votes are a juicy prize, however, and that's why the redistricting here is so particularly vile.

I've never really looked into the in-state EV process, but rather the overall electoral college.

Are EVs determined by district wins, rather than overall state?

For example, if 51% of the state voted for the Democrat, but 5 out of 9 districts voted Republican due to gerrymandering, would the state then go D or R?

Or is it different state by state?

And how does that work in Texas?

I tried to find out myself, but my google-fu is weak.


State by state, except Maine and Nebraska, who have weird rules. The other 48 it doesn't matter which district you live in.
 
2012-09-28 04:25:02 PM  

Gotfire: I live in DFW and pretty much everyone I know is voting Obama.


I doubt he was in an urban area.
 
2012-09-28 04:26:07 PM  

dr_blasto: Texas is winner take all. 51% would not be impacted by districts, unlike NE where electoral delegates vote their district.


The Jami Turman Fan Club: State by state, except Maine and Nebraska, who have weird rules. The other 48 it doesn't matter which district you live in.


Thanks!

That's what I thought but couldn't confirm.

So let's say Texas (with 38 EVs) had a 24 / 14 split in R vs D due to gerrymandered districts for congressional representatives. Even with that sort of Republican-domination of Representatives, as long as 51% of the population voted D, Texas would go for D.

Such a scenario is unlikely, but just wanted to make sure.

Makes for interesting possibilities of what the EVs will look like in 2020 and beyond with the growing Hispanic population and the continued efforts by the Republicans to alienate otherwise-conservative voters.
 
2012-09-28 04:27:15 PM  

NateGrey: bullwrinkle: if Romney wins the butthurt on fark will be epic nuclear

[www.moreawesomethanyou.com image 304x161]
/fat lady and all that

I remember you!

[www.madmann.com image 750x600]


And I remember you too.

You want to make a bet on this election?
 
2012-09-28 04:28:11 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: mrshowrules: DeArmondVI: mrshowrules: dietbubba: What about Victoria Jackson and John Voight?

done

Craig T. Nelson?

Or is he a librul plant.

Can't we just have "dumb celebrities" as an entry? I'm developing repetitive stress disorder in my wrists.

I don't think that's from the entries.


It all adds up you know
 
2012-09-28 04:29:13 PM  

lantawa: I think that rational decision indicates that Mitt Romney is the correct candidate to vote for. Each undecided person who may be lurking has their decision to make.)


Attention Lurkers!

I think that rational decision indicates that Barack Obama is the correct candidate to vote for. Each undecided person who may be lurking has their decision to make.
 
2012-09-28 04:32:32 PM  

SwingingJohnson: And I remember you too.

You want to make a bet on this election?



lol sure, who can drink the most Republican tears the night of the election.
 
2012-09-28 04:33:27 PM  

lantawa: heh


Did you vote for John McCain because you both fought during the Revolutionary War?
 
2012-09-28 04:35:17 PM  

Lord_Baull: Klom Dark: I'm waiting for the electoral maps to turn Nebraska at least purple. I'm seeing around 10 Obama bumper stickers per 1 Romney sticker. I'm seeing less Romney stickers than I did a couple months ago, I'm thinking they are peeling them off in embarrassment. Even my redneck buddies from central Nebraska are coming to the realization that the current Republican party is not anything aligned with something good for them.


2008 my neighborhood was proliferated with McCain Palin yard signs and Teabag propaganda. This year - I've counted 4 yard signs.


It's really weird. I've never seen anything like it before. As fired up as they seem to be online, there's nothing going on in real life this time. The silence is almost creepy.
 
2012-09-28 04:35:47 PM  

unexplained bacon: I just want to help you feel better.
what's creepy about that?

lol...seriously outta here, have fun


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2012-09-28 04:36:39 PM  

EighthDay: Fry's 100th Cup of Coffee: Texas's electoral votes are a juicy prize, however, and that's why the redistricting here is so particularly vile.

I've never really looked into the in-state EV process, but rather the overall electoral college.

Are EVs determined by district wins, rather than overall state?

For example, if 51% of the state voted for the Democrat, but 5 out of 9 districts voted Republican due to gerrymandering, would the state then go D or R?

Or is it different state by state?

And how does that work in Texas?

I tried to find out myself, but my google-fu is weak.


For the general election districts don't really matter. This is a pretty good explanation of it.

Basically, Texas electoral votes fall under the "winner take all" system, so when you vote for the President and Vice President in a general election, you're voting for the electors their party has selected. Whoever wins the general election nationwide will have their party's selected electors added to the electoral college in that state, and they in turn will be responsible for casting their electoral votes, representative of the popular vote of the state, in the next general election.

In most cases the electors should cast their votes for the candidate who received the most votes in that state, but for some f*cked up reason in the U.S. it's legal for electors to vote THEIR party line even if the people are voting for the other guy.
 
2012-09-28 04:42:54 PM  

NateGrey: lantawa: heh

Did you vote for John McCain because you both fought during the Revolutionary War?


Yes. And I clearly remember the lamentations of the English women as we took them from behind after we had had conquered their English dogs of men. Good times.....good times....
 
2012-09-28 04:46:14 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: Truth of all this is the Republicans deserve a better candidate than Romney


I disagree. I do not think Republicans deserve a better candidate. I think they got exactly what they deserved and DECIDED for themselves. They created a climate in which candidates like Romney could thrived and encouraged it. They promoted fringe right wing ideology as if it was mainstream. They said that would accept nothing less... and so behold... Mitt Romney... the candidate they not only deserved... but that they asked for.

You want a wide angle lens of the Republican party... look no further than the politicians they put forth.
 
2012-09-28 04:48:15 PM  

Klom Dark: mrshowrules: Krymson Tyde: I suppose Dave Mustaine should be added as well.

done

It's true, but it sucks. WTF happened to Dave? What happened to him? Mr. "Peace Sells but Who's Buying" sells out.

// Dammit. I had so much respect for him. Now he's done gone stoopid. fark! :(


Dave's dead, man
 
2012-09-28 04:48:33 PM  

EighthDay: dr_blasto: Texas is winner take all. 51% would not be impacted by districts, unlike NE where electoral delegates vote their district.

The Jami Turman Fan Club: State by state, except Maine and Nebraska, who have weird rules. The other 48 it doesn't matter which district you live in.

Thanks!

That's what I thought but couldn't confirm.

So let's say Texas (with 38 EVs) had a 24 / 14 split in R vs D due to gerrymandered districts for congressional representatives. Even with that sort of Republican-domination of Representatives, as long as 51% of the population voted D, Texas would go for D.

Such a scenario is unlikely, but just wanted to make sure.

Makes for interesting possibilities of what the EVs will look like in 2020 and beyond with the growing Hispanic population and the continued efforts by the Republicans to alienate otherwise-conservative voters.


Remember, the gerrymandering is designed to provide more secure control to the individual state legislature and provide some way to balance things to support the same party in the House. In some cases, it has the added bonus effect of keeping a lot of people out of the polls as they have to travel much further and wait in much longer lines than someone in a district favorable to the in-power party. Even if Text has a majority (plurality, even) of Democrat-leaning voters, it is easy to form district boundaries and provide odd polling locations in an effort to suppress that vote, leaving a majority of Republican-leaning people casting votes easily and comfortably.
 
2012-09-28 04:50:24 PM  

lantawa: NateGrey: lantawa: heh

Did you vote for John McCain because you both fought during the Revolutionary War?

Yes. And I clearly remember the lamentations of the English women as we took them from behind after we had had conquered their English dogs of men. Good times.....good times....


How cool is it going to be to see Obama take the oath again in January?

You shouldnt be pleading for lurkers to vote, you arent working hard enough for Romney. Charge that hover round and start knocking on doors.

And Vote Republican!
 
2012-09-28 04:51:23 PM  

dr_blasto: Remember, the gerrymandering is designed to provide more secure control to the individual state legislature and provide some way to balance things to support the same party in the House. In some cases, it has the added bonus effect of keeping a lot of people out of the polls as they have to travel much further and wait in much longer lines than someone in a district favorable to the in-power party. Even if Text has a majority (plurality, even) of Democrat-leaning voters, it is easy to form district boundaries and provide odd polling locations in an effort to suppress that vote, leaving a majority of Republican-leaning people casting votes easily and comfortably.


That's a great point which I hadn't considered.
 
2012-09-28 04:52:44 PM  

NateGrey: lantawa: I think that rational decision indicates that Mitt Romney is the correct candidate to vote for. Each undecided person who may be lurking has their decision to make.)

Attention Lurkers!

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2012-09-28 04:58:14 PM  

MSFT: NateGrey: lantawa: I think that rational decision indicates that Mitt Romney is the correct candidate to vote for. Each undecided person who may be lurking has their decision to make.)

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2012-09-28 05:00:09 PM  
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2012-09-28 05:01:44 PM  

EighthDay: dr_blasto: Remember, the gerrymandering is designed to provide more secure control to the individual state legislature and provide some way to balance things to support the same party in the House. In some cases, it has the added bonus effect of keeping a lot of people out of the polls as they have to travel much further and wait in much longer lines than someone in a district favorable to the in-power party. Even if Text has a majority (plurality, even) of Democrat-leaning voters, it is easy to form district boundaries and provide odd polling locations in an effort to suppress that vote, leaving a majority of Republican-leaning people casting votes easily and comfortably.

That's a great point which I hadn't considered.


In Ohio, for the 2004 elections, the board of elections and their Sec. State actually reduced polling locations in urban areas, leading to hours-long lines. They simultaneously increased locations and reduced lines in suburban areas, but only the ones that more reliably voted (R). This year, they attempted to reduce polling station hours in urban areas, but not the wealthier parts and removed more polling stations in primarily minority-dominated areas. Their SoS said something along the lines of not needing to cater to "them" so he didn't care or something.

So, remember that whether it is mid cycle or not, one of the most important vote times is whenever you will be populating the 10X0 (tens) as this would be the cycle associated with the census and reformation of your congressional districts.
 
2012-09-28 05:01:45 PM  
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2012-09-28 05:02:17 PM  

SnakeLee: Wow this article is Hillaryis44esque:

The polls allege Obama is ahead by 10% in Ohio (or should I use the Hawaiian spelling, "Oiho") -- a mining state -- where part of the economy depends on King Coal and the money it brings in. This is the man who, through his agents at the EPA, has singlehandedly destroyed the coal industry in America.


FWIW: I was talking to an oilfield services company owner the other day. He shared a couple of interesting points:
1) The reason coal is struggling is because fracking and other new extraction techniques have made natural gas much cheaper than coal. Also, you can transport natural gas via pipelines, which is much cheaper than moving coal via truck or train.
2) The limiting factor in the oil and natural gas equation is the availability and diameter of piplelines. He mentioned one pipeline (don't know its name) that is almost complete but is missing a couple of miles in the center. They can't complete it because they can't get permits for some reason.

My take on pipelines and oil/gas transportation: Establish strict guidelines and construction requirements and, generally, allow large-diameter pipelines so that we can become more energy independent. HOWEVER, if they leak at all we will shut you down immediately, make you remediate the site, pay a fine, and super-fix it. Obviously, this is a vast oversimplification of a hydra-headed issue -- safety of fracking, environmental concerns, etc., but that's the general idea.

He also seemed convinced that the Dakota oil rush that's going on will be short-lived. Not because the extractable oil is limited, but because of pipeline capacity issues. Don't know if it's true or not, but interesting.
 
2012-09-28 05:03:19 PM  

MSFT: Attention Lurkers!

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FTFY
 
2012-09-28 05:05:15 PM  
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2012-09-28 05:27:36 PM  

MSFT: Attention Lurkers!

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heheh....lol.....you stupid douchebag....heheh
 
2012-09-28 05:29:15 PM  

lantawa: MSFT: Attention Lurkers!

There is now a sale in ladies wear on floor three. Please use this information to inform your decision to purchase lady's underpants.

heheh....lol.....you stupid douchebag....heheh


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2012-09-28 05:29:28 PM  

dr_blasto: Aarontology: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The closer we get to Election Day, the more hysterical these f*ckwits get

/Next week should be a virtual laugh riot

I can't wait till the week after the election when reality sets in.

the reality that Obama will be President again, not the self deluded "reality" they've constructed for themselves.

He will have won by fraud; he won't be the rightful President and we'll be an occupied nation. This is EXACTLY what they'll say, give or take a few epithets.


I'm actually a little worried about how those types will behave if and when Obama wins a second term. I have a feeling we "ain't seen nothing yet" compared to the derp storm that will ensue. What worries me is that it may push those who have been threatening violence over the edge.
 
2012-09-28 05:33:35 PM  

lantawa: MSFT: Attention Lurkers!

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heheh....lol.....you stupid douchebag....heheh


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2012-09-28 05:37:49 PM  

dr_blasto: lantawa: MSFT: Attention Lurkers!

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heheh....lol.....you stupid douchebag....heheh

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Heheh...just keep doing THIS, and you'll be comfortable within your narrow range of snark:
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2012-09-28 05:38:24 PM  

CynicalLA: lantawa: MSFT: Attention Lurkers!

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heheh....lol.....you stupid douchebag....heheh

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Attention ladies!

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2012-09-28 05:44:15 PM  

CynicalLA: Attention lurkers!

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Well, while I was toying with you reprobates, I polished off a 14 credit CE exam in my professional field, along with finishing a successful business day. Suck it, haters.....
 
2012-09-28 05:49:05 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: CynicalLA: lantawa: MSFT: Attention Lurkers!

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2012-09-28 05:50:55 PM  

lantawa: CynicalLA: Attention lurkers!

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2012-09-28 05:51:23 PM  

lantawa: CynicalLA: Attention lurkers!

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Sure buddy. You might want to get back on those meds.
 
2012-09-28 05:54:20 PM  

dr_blasto: Smackledorfer: You're the jerk... jerk: brianbankerus: Krymson Tyde: Weaver95: If anything, the closer we get to Election Day, the more apparent it is that Obama is not only losing, but losing big. The Obama campaign, and by "campaign" I mean members of the media and polling organizations, is trying to convince prospective Romney voters to believe that all is lost -- in which case, they hope, we will stay home.

I wonder how they're going to handle it when Obama gets sworn in for a second term? do you think they'll crack up completely or find a way to come to terms with a reality they've feared for 2 years now...?

I think most will find a way to deal with it, most likely though they will be yelling about election fraud and the need for more voter restriction. But I think there will be a few that completely crack up.

My friend had a great idea for voter ID laws... we require photo ID for everyone, but we only accept a passport.

That ought to silence the mouth-breathers.

I admit that voter ID laws are clearly an attempt to keep poor people from voting, but I cannot defend the right for someone to vote if they aren't involved enough in society to have a passport. If your worldview is so narrow that you cannot conceive of leaving the country, why should you have any say in the lives of others.

Thats pretty stupid.

At the very least, you'd have to admit it would be good for people to see a bit of the rest of the world. It would be healthy for them and, possibly, would provide a little heft to their American Exceptionalism and possibly reduce some of the insults directed at Europe because, well, soshalizm and atheists and hygiene.


Good for peopleto get exposure? Yes.

But a trip to europe ain't cheap, mexico isnt safe, and Canada isn't for everyone.
 
2012-09-28 06:01:06 PM  
www.myfacewhen.net
 
2012-09-28 06:18:16 PM  

Smackledorfer: dr_blasto: Smackledorfer: You're the jerk... jerk: brianbankerus: Krymson Tyde: Weaver95: If anything, the closer we get to Election Day, the more apparent it is that Obama is not only losing, but losing big. The Obama campaign, and by "campaign" I mean members of the media and polling organizations, is trying to convince prospective Romney voters to believe that all is lost -- in which case, they hope, we will stay home.

I wonder how they're going to handle it when Obama gets sworn in for a second term? do you think they'll crack up completely or find a way to come to terms with a reality they've feared for 2 years now...?

I think most will find a way to deal with it, most likely though they will be yelling about election fraud and the need for more voter restriction. But I think there will be a few that completely crack up.

My friend had a great idea for voter ID laws... we require photo ID for everyone, but we only accept a passport.

That ought to silence the mouth-breathers.

I admit that voter ID laws are clearly an attempt to keep poor people from voting, but I cannot defend the right for someone to vote if they aren't involved enough in society to have a passport. If your worldview is so narrow that you cannot conceive of leaving the country, why should you have any say in the lives of others.

Thats pretty stupid.

At the very least, you'd have to admit it would be good for people to see a bit of the rest of the world. It would be healthy for them and, possibly, would provide a little heft to their American Exceptionalism and possibly reduce some of the insults directed at Europe because, well, soshalizm and atheists and hygiene.

Good for peopleto get exposure? Yes.

But a trip to europe ain't cheap, mexico isnt safe, and Canada isn't for everyone.


you can get just about anywhere in the world for about $1500. Cancun is only about $400 and isn't the murder-hole people imagine Mexico to be.
 
2012-09-28 07:23:42 PM  

Weaver95: If anything, the closer we get to Election Day, the more apparent it is that Obama is not only losing, but losing big. The Obama campaign, and by "campaign" I mean members of the media and polling organizations, is trying to convince prospective Romney voters to believe that all is lost -- in which case, they hope, we will stay home.

I wonder how they're going to handle it when Obama gets sworn in for a second term? do you think they'll crack up completely or find a way to come to terms with a reality they've feared for 2 years now...?


All I know is that this liberal independent is buying a farking new gun and ammo before the election. These people are insane now - I have no farking illusions that they will get saner when Obama wins in November. I have a feeling that more than a few folks will go completely off the deep end and I want to be protected if one of 'em hits that point around me.

Fortunately I live in western Washington state and not in freeperville, but still.
 
2012-09-28 07:32:39 PM  

Serpentile6: It truly is amazing. The teatards over there are already predicting a Romney loss due to the "state controlled MSM". It's already rigged, they're calling foul, oh and also that the election is rigged already. So, I need a minute to take this all in and get it straight, I have been reading nothing but conserva-comments.

As I understand it though, they're prepared for a loss because the Dems cheated, oh yeah and are afraid to express support for Romney Ryan out of fear of violence from "extreme left-wing thug-o-crats" who will beat them to death, then rape their wimmin'folk and force them to have implied interracial abortions, register the abortions to vote, and make previously mentioned wimmin'folk commit the voter fraud, for the usurper in chief who will then commit genocide or something on their relatives, not before taxing them into the poor house, and taking all their guns so they can't defend themselves.
TA-DE-FARKIN-DA!!

/yes run-on sentence was necessary


7/10 on the humor. You only missed a 10/10 because you left out Muslim and Socialist.
 
2012-09-28 07:38:38 PM  

lantawa: unexplained bacon: = Obamaton spam 
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(This goes for all the other copious alts and Obama political machine trolls in all of the Politics threads)


I, too, would like to read your #1 rational reason for picking Romney over Obama.
 
2012-09-28 07:43:36 PM  

You're the jerk... jerk: 1. I am not a liberal, but I have no problem being an elitist. I don't really care for democracy because not everyone is equal. If we are going to pretend that they are, then we should have some standards
2. A passport is $130 for 10 years, if you can't afford that then you have made enough bad life choices for me not to care about your vote.


HONESTY!

See, what's wrong with honesty? It doesn't make me like you less and it helps me understand you better.

And I would weakly support the passport-holders-only rule, or a constitutional amendment to allow it, because I have faith in people who travel abroad.
 
2012-09-28 07:48:29 PM  

Graffito: lantawa: unexplained bacon: = Obamaton spam 
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(This goes for all the other copious alts and Obama political machine trolls in all of the Politics threads)

I, too, would like to read your #1 rational reason for picking Romney over Obama.


The motion is carried. Please remit your grounds forthwith.

The EnFarkerator has spoken
 
2012-09-28 08:22:22 PM  

Serpentile6: You're the jerk... jerk 1. I am not a liberal, but I have no problem being an elitist. I don't really care for democracy because not everyone is equal. If we are going to pretend that they are, then we should have some standards
2. A passport is $130 for 10 years, if you can't afford that then you have made enough bad life choices for me not to care about your vote.

See the great thing is that in the grand scheme of things, that last bit, you know the retarded opinion part? Which I might add you are entirely and ironically(due to your statements being of a condescending and slightly fascist nature) entitled to express gets canceled out by my vote and opinion. Because that's a terrible standard, and you have just made the claim that you must own property ,in this case a small little book, in order for your opinion to even matter. A concept that we kinda did away with, you know like a few years ago right?


Damn. They really doubled down there, didn't they?

dr_blasto: you can get just about anywhere in the world for about $1500. Cancun is only about $400 and isn't the murder-hole people imagine Mexico to be.


And every family in the U.S. has that kind of chump change behind their couch cushions, right?
 
2012-09-28 08:30:53 PM  
So the fracking $$ my dad has been getting while Obama is in office will suddenly stop because Obama is in office?
 
2012-09-28 08:40:28 PM  

DrBenway: Serpentile6: You're the jerk... jerk 1. I am not a liberal, but I have no problem being an elitist. I don't really care for democracy because not everyone is equal. If we are going to pretend that they are, then we should have some standards
2. A passport is $130 for 10 years, if you can't afford that then you have made enough bad life choices for me not to care about your vote.

See the great thing is that in the grand scheme of things, that last bit, you know the retarded opinion part? Which I might add you are entirely and ironically(due to your statements being of a condescending and slightly fascist nature) entitled to express gets canceled out by my vote and opinion. Because that's a terrible standard, and you have just made the claim that you must own property ,in this case a small little book, in order for your opinion to even matter. A concept that we kinda did away with, you know like a few years ago right?

Damn. They really doubled down there, didn't they?

dr_blasto: you can get just about anywhere in the world for about $1500. Cancun is only about $400 and isn't the murder-hole people imagine Mexico to be.

And every family in the U.S. has that kind of chump change behind their couch cushions, right?


No, they clearly can't. All I'm saying is traveling outside of the US isn't as out of reach as some may think. When you're 20-nothing, it is something everyone should consider.

/I'm not advocating requiring passports for voting
//I advocate that everyone should make an effort to get one so the first hurdle of international travel is out of the way
///also, the first hurdle for expanding your view
 
2012-09-28 08:58:13 PM  

theorellior: Gyrfalcon: Cassandra here, and very sorry I canceled that tryst with that deity...

I'm not gonna go as far as Cassandra here, but I believe there will be white people riots throughout the Old Confederacy after Election Day. Maybe the National Guard will be involved. Surely there will be smoke, fire, bashed heads and Caucasians hoofing it down the street with foodstuffs "borrowed" from a flaming convenience store. It's not gonna be pretty.


Oh, indeed. But I'm looking forward to the temple and fresh virgins every day if I'm right.
 
2012-09-28 09:00:55 PM  

dr_blasto: DrBenway: Serpentile6: You're the jerk... jerk 1. I am not a liberal, but I have no problem being an elitist. I don't really care for democracy because not everyone is equal. If we are going to pretend that they are, then we should have some standards
2. A passport is $130 for 10 years, if you can't afford that then you have made enough bad life choices for me not to care about your vote.

See the great thing is that in the grand scheme of things, that last bit, you know the retarded opinion part? Which I might add you are entirely and ironically(due to your statements being of a condescending and slightly fascist nature) entitled to express gets canceled out by my vote and opinion. Because that's a terrible standard, and you have just made the claim that you must own property ,in this case a small little book, in order for your opinion to even matter. A concept that we kinda did away with, you know like a few years ago right?

Damn. They really doubled down there, didn't they?

dr_blasto: you can get just about anywhere in the world for about $1500. Cancun is only about $400 and isn't the murder-hole people imagine Mexico to be.

And every family in the U.S. has that kind of chump change behind their couch cushions, right?

No, they clearly can't. All I'm saying is traveling outside of the US isn't as out of reach as some may think. When you're 20-nothing, it is something everyone should consider.

/I'm not advocating requiring passports for voting
//I advocate that everyone should make an effort to get one so the first hurdle of international travel is out of the way
///also, the first hurdle for expanding your view


Sorry, but You're the jerk's comments kind of put me on edge. Yours is a nice thought and you're certainly not wrong about widened horizons being a good thing. Unfortunately, it's just really far from a lot of people's reality.
 
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