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(American Thinker)   The closer we get to Election Day, the more apparent it is that Obama is not only losing, but losing big   (americanthinker.com) divider line 412
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2012-09-28 07:36:12 AM  
There are FOUR lights.
 
2012-09-28 07:42:48 AM  
Wow...
 
2012-09-28 07:43:01 AM  
Uh huh. You keep telling yourself that.
 
2012-09-28 07:43:40 AM  
Well then... I guess I'd better vote.

Thank you, American Thinker, for alerting me to this. I'd hate it if Obama lost.
 
2012-09-28 07:53:09 AM  
what are these people on? seriously.

By their logic, the Mets still have a shot at making the playoffs.
 
2012-09-28 07:53:49 AM  
I found this, from the Weeners, quite amusing:

I believe that Romney will win, mostly because Obama is so predictable. Romney is practiced in self-control, while Obama is a loose cannon. Obama, even with the biased Fourth Estate cheer-leading him on, will blow it in the debates. He, (Obama), has an underlying anger about him. He can not stand challenges from anyone.

I think maybe this guy has confused the candidates with one another.
 
2012-09-28 07:58:17 AM  

Krymson Tyde: I found this, from the Weeners, quite amusing:

I believe that Romney will win, mostly because Obama is so predictable. Romney is practiced in self-control, while Obama is a loose cannon. Obama, even with the biased Fourth Estate cheer-leading him on, will blow it in the debates. He, (Obama), has an underlying anger about him. He can not stand challenges from anyone.

I think maybe this guy has confused the candidates with one another.


I don't think it's a case of mistaking one for the other:
sullysrental.com
 
2012-09-28 07:59:10 AM  
I can only assume that the author regularly shiats in their pants, lets it stew for a while, then rummages through it looking for new thoughts.
 
2012-09-28 08:03:42 AM  
Sounds like someone needs a punch in the statisticals.

Rasmussen can give you all the leads you want. But when it's the only one doing so, you're probably not right.
 
2012-09-28 08:14:42 AM  
I just spent a week in Texas, and I learned a lot while down there. First off: They HATE Obama, and I mean HATE. They will spend hours railing against his policies, his person, his administration, but really don't want to talk about anything else. I brought up the Democratic Congress, and the majority of the people were: Meh... but that Obama sucks! Secondly, they don't think Mitt is the right guy for the job. But, at least he's not Obama. They are embarrassed by Mitt, don't want to talk about him, refer to him as 'the Republican candidate' and refuse to talk about subjects revolving around him.

Lastly, there was something very eye opening about the whole affair. When I brought up hard data and facts, they outright refused to believe them. When I showed it to them, their statement was: "Facts are something Liberals use when they don't like the truth." To them, facts and truth are 2 separate entities, and facts are a liberal agenda.

When I said the fact was Obama was going to win this election, the overall consensus was: Yeah, he is, and it sucks, because I hate him.

Truth of all this is the Republicans deserve a better candidate than Romney, and they know it. Even the RNC knows this and they know they weren't going to oust Obama from office, so they are banking of the 2016 election. This information comes from deep in the heart of Texas from hardcore, lifelong Republicans. They know the scorecard and are simply making noise about the election because they always do, not because they believe in their candidate. Those that are serious about Romney actually having a chance are deluded and don't speak for 'true Republicans'.

My thoughts: The Republican party is too fractured right now, and Mitt is trying to pander to them all while still trying to collect votes from the middle and is losing 2 votes for every one he grabs. He's not so much giving the votes to Obama, the people just won't hit the polls (or so they say). With politics these days, everyone will show up in droves to put a check next to the name with a (D) or (R), regardless of the policies.

I will, once again, abstain, as I don't think either candidate has what we need.
 
2012-09-28 08:26:50 AM  
For those that don't want to click a Stinker article, let me summarize: "The polls showing Obama with 50+% of the vote are clearly wrong because 100% of the people writing this article are voting for Romney. How can you possibly, in good conscience, reconcile polls that show Obama with over 50% of the vote with the unassailable fact that 100% of the people writing this article are going to vote for Romney?"
 
2012-09-28 08:30:12 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: For those that don't want to click a Stinker article, let me summarize: "The polls showing Obama with 50+% of the vote are clearly wrong because 100% of the people writing this article are voting for Romney. How can you possibly, in good conscience, reconcile polls that show Obama with over 50% of the vote with the unassailable fact that 100% of the people writing this article are going to vote for Romney?"


Even that's not true. I'd bet that only around 5% of people voting in November will actually vote for Romney. The rest are going to vote either for Obama or against Obama.
 
2012-09-28 08:31:30 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: I just spent a week in Texas, and I learned a lot while down there. First off: They HATE Obama, and I mean HATE. They will spend hours railing against his policies, his person, his administration, but really don't want to talk about anything else.


Tell me about it. Growing up in NE Houston, my FB news feed makes American Thinker look like the New Yorker. Hate is a mild word. There's people who will post links to right-wing BS then state they don't believe 90% of the media. I had one centered friend tell another about the USS Liberty Incident (they had been ranting about Obama not meeting with PM Netanyahu and the subject came up) and they pretty much refused to believe it.

What's amazing is that many of them are very religious and any other day wouldn't hesitate to tell you about how Mormonism is an abomination and a cult. And what really sucks it that this hate you describe pretty much ruins family gatherings.
 
2012-09-28 08:33:52 AM  

GAT_00: Sounds like someone needs a punch in the statisticals.

Rasmussen can give you all the leads you want. But when it's the only one doing so, you're probably not right.


Rasmussen has it as a dead heat now.
 
2012-09-28 08:35:36 AM  
The closer we get to Election Day, the more hysterical these f*ckwits get

/Next week should be a virtual laugh riot
 
2012-09-28 08:39:08 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: Lastly, there was something very eye opening about the whole affair. When I brought up hard data and facts, they outright refused to believe them. When I showed it to them, their statement was: "Facts are something Liberals use when they don't like the truth." To them, facts and truth are 2 separate entities, and facts are a liberal agenda.


This is something that bothers me. I know a lot of people who self-identify as conservative hate the "liberal agenda" but none of them can actually really factually identify what it is. They can only spew out what they think it is, regardless of how inaccurate their view.

They HATE Obama, just like they HATED Clinton; the answers are almost certainly "freedom" or "UN" or, in the '90's "ZOG" or some other nonsensical and entirely unsupported conspiracy that the liberals are going to lock them all up and promote one-world government.

The fact that, in actual governance, this has never been true and the Democratic Party tends to govern center-right doesn't ever make its way past their lizard brain. From my recollection, it has been this way in full effect since 1994, starting, really, in 1992.

These same people will make massive leaps to justify voting for Romney. I have a coworker who, after Romney's speech at the RNC, said "I didn't trust him, I didn't like him, but he presented a good policy and I think he has the right plan so I will probably vote for him."

Good policy
Right plan

Romney presented no policy and no plan. He never has; but to vote for him, you would have to make that leap and fill in the whitespace with something.
 
2012-09-28 09:00:36 AM  

UberDave: HST's Dead Carcass: I just spent a week in Texas, and I learned a lot while down there. First off: They HATE Obama, and I mean HATE. They will spend hours railing against his policies, his person, his administration, but really don't want to talk about anything else.

Tell me about it. Growing up in NE Houston, my FB news feed makes American Thinker look like the New Yorker. Hate is a mild word. There's people who will post links to right-wing BS then state they don't believe 90% of the media. I had one centered friend tell another about the USS Liberty Incident (they had been ranting about Obama not meeting with PM Netanyahu and the subject came up) and they pretty much refused to believe it.

What's amazing is that many of them are very religious and any other day wouldn't hesitate to tell you about how Mormonism is an abomination and a cult. And what really sucks it that this hate you describe pretty much ruins family gatherings.


Stop going to them. Just because you accidentally share an ancestor with some farkwit doesn't mean you have to like them.
 
2012-09-28 09:01:22 AM  
Classic political error, and the same one Democrats made in 2004. Dont confuse intensity of support (or rejection) with breadth of support/rejection.

99 voters who really hate a candidate will always lose to 100 voters who sorta like him a little, but really don't care.
 
2012-09-28 09:01:43 AM  
All the local digital antenna channels around here seem to have been bought up by televangelists. I flipped past Jimmy Swaggart's 24 hour praise-a-thon the other day and his creepy son was condescending to some black minister, explaining to him that THEY all just voted for Obama in 2008 because he was black. This time THEY had to do the RIGHT thing. *wink* *wink*

This from people that, on any other day of the week, would tell you Mormons weren't really Christians and were going to Hell. 

I'm not even sure which part of it was most offensive.
 
2012-09-28 09:05:51 AM  
I know I shouldn't complain about the tag, because welcome to fark, but seriously, "interesting"?
 
2012-09-28 09:08:57 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The closer we get to Election Day, the more hysterical these f*ckwits get

/Next week should be a virtual laugh riot


I can't wait till the week after the election when reality sets in.

the reality that Obama will be President again, not the self deluded "reality" they've constructed for themselves.
 
2012-09-28 09:11:13 AM  

Aarontology: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The closer we get to Election Day, the more hysterical these f*ckwits get

/Next week should be a virtual laugh riot

I can't wait till the week after the election when reality sets in.

the reality that Obama will be President again, not the self deluded "reality" they've constructed for themselves.


He will have won by fraud; he won't be the rightful President and we'll be an occupied nation. This is EXACTLY what they'll say, give or take a few epithets.
 
2012-09-28 09:12:51 AM  

naughtyrev: I can only assume that the author regularly shiats in their pants, lets it stew for a while, then rummages through it looking for new thoughts.


I LOL'd. A lot. That's AT in a nutshell.
 
2012-09-28 09:16:51 AM  

dr_blasto: He will have won by fraud; he won't be the rightful President and we'll be an occupied nation. This is EXACTLY what they'll say, give or take a few epithets.


Yeah, you're probably right.

I think the whole "polls all being part of the plot" thing is part of the groundwork for that.
 
2012-09-28 09:22:33 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: I know I shouldn't complain about the tag, because welcome to fark, but seriously, "interesting"?


It is indeed interesting to laugh at these people and their rejection of objective, observable reality
 
2012-09-28 09:37:04 AM  

SilentStrider: Uh huh. You keep telling yourself that.


I'd tell them to lay back and take it easy because it's in the bag for them but on I don't want Romney to stop saying things.
 
2012-09-28 09:39:35 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: For those that don't want to click a Stinker article, let me summarize: "The polls showing Obama with 50+% of the vote are clearly wrong because 100% of the people writing this article are voting for Romney. How can you possibly, in good conscience, reconcile polls that show Obama with over 50% of the vote with the unassailable fact that 100% of the people writing this article are going to vote for Romney?"


Presumably you would split the difference and say it is 25% to 75% for Romney. Right it down on paper and if the paper doesn't burst into flames, you have your confirmation.
 
2012-09-28 09:51:48 AM  

Krymson Tyde: I believe that Romney will win, mostly because Obama is so predictable. Romney is practiced in self-control, while Obama is a loose cannon. Obama, even with the biased Fourth Estate cheer-leading him on, will blow it in the debates. He, (Obama), has an underlying anger about him. He can not stand challenges from anyone.


this is literally the opposite of the truth.

blog.zap2it.com

literally.
 
2012-09-28 09:54:21 AM  

Krymson Tyde: GAT_00: Sounds like someone needs a punch in the statisticals.

Rasmussen can give you all the leads you want. But when it's the only one doing so, you're probably not right.

Rasmussen has it as a dead heat now.


Rasmussen has Obama up by a point this morning. I can't wait for the guy from unskewedpolls.com to fix it using...Rasmussen's demographic data.
 
2012-09-28 10:03:29 AM  
The most recent Bloomberg poll shows Bush with a 46% to 49% favorable rating as compared to Romney's 43% to 50%. Link
 
2012-09-28 10:04:13 AM  

Hollie Maea: Krymson Tyde: GAT_00: Sounds like someone needs a punch in the statisticals.

Rasmussen can give you all the leads you want. But when it's the only one doing so, you're probably not right.

Rasmussen has it as a dead heat now.

Rasmussen has Obama up by a point this morning. I can't wait for the guy from unskewedpolls.com to fix it using...Rasmussen's demographic data.


Oh shiat! Lol I haven't seen today's yet.
 
2012-09-28 10:05:35 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: The most recent Bloomberg poll shows Bush with a 46% to 49% favorable rating as compared to Romney's 43% to 50%. Link


Has anyone floated the idea the Dubya was invited to the convention but didn't want to go?
 
2012-09-28 10:06:11 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Hollie Maea: Krymson Tyde: GAT_00: Sounds like someone needs a punch in the statisticals.

Rasmussen can give you all the leads you want. But when it's the only one doing so, you're probably not right.

Rasmussen has it as a dead heat now.

Rasmussen has Obama up by a point this morning. I can't wait for the guy from unskewedpolls.com to fix it using...Rasmussen's demographic data.

Oh shiat! Lol I haven't seen today's yet.


It's OK. He covered it in the third paragraph: "When "leaners" are included, the race is tied at 48% apiece."
 
2012-09-28 10:07:53 AM  

MrBallou: It's OK. He covered it in the third paragraph: "When "leaners" are included, the race is tied at 48% apiece."


I always rush to post. Should have read on:
"Beginning this Monday, October 1, Rasmussen Reports will be basing its daily updates solely upon the results including leaners."

Game over.
 
2012-09-28 10:09:21 AM  
From our friends over at Free Republic:

It does appear then that Ras is using a significant dem oversample model.

If Romney leads by 4 with Indies and leads GOPers more than 0buma lead Rats, then this is a skewed poll.


Et tu, Ras?


/Don't ban me, mods. I don't regularly quote Free Republic, but this is too good to pass up.
 
2012-09-28 10:09:23 AM  
i45.tinypic.com

ahem.
 
2012-09-28 10:18:53 AM  

Hollie Maea: From our friends over at Free Republic:

It does appear then that Ras is using a significant dem oversample model.

If Romney leads by 4 with Indies and leads GOPers more than 0buma lead Rats, then this is a skewed poll.

Et tu, Ras?


/Don't ban me, mods. I don't regularly quote Free Republic, but this is too good to pass up.


List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Community Organizers
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Climatologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Satan
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable news except FNC
The New York Times
The LA Times
The Washington Post
The Associated Press
Reuters
BBC
The Guardian
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
ACORN
National Endowment for the Arts
Gays
Judges
NPR
Paleontologists
Astrophysicists
Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
WHO
WTO
Inflated tires
The Honolulu Advertiser
The Star Bulletin
Teletubbies
Sponge Bob and Patrick
Nobel Prize Committee
US Census Bureau
NOAA
Sesame Street
Comic Books
Little Green Footballs
Video Games
The Bible
CBO
Bruce Springsteen
Pennies
The Theory of Relativity
Comedy Central
Young People
whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
Small Business Owners
Math
CPAC
Navy SEALs
The Economist
The Muppets
Iowa Republicans
Low-Flow Toilets
Breast Cancer Screenings
Chrysler
Clint Eastwood.
Robert Deniro
Tom Hanks
Glenn Frey
Norman Rockwell
James Cameron
Dr. Seus
Nuns
Supreme Court Justice John Roberts
Jonathan Krohn at age 17
Fact Checkers
Australia
Mitt Romney
Rasmussen
 
2012-09-28 10:23:49 AM  
We have THE Math!
 
2012-09-28 10:26:58 AM  

Mentat: We have THE Math!


Wait until Republicans realize that math is a science.
 
2012-09-28 10:28:49 AM  

mrshowrules: All of cable news except FNC


You're going to have to take off the "except FNC" part.

Link
 
2012-09-28 10:31:53 AM  
I'm really interested in seeing how tools like this reconcile their fantasy world with reality when Obama gets his second term. I guess they'll just dream up some election fraud or other baseless conspiracy theory.
 
2012-09-28 10:35:57 AM  
*facepalm.jpg*
 
2012-09-28 10:42:33 AM  
If anything, the closer we get to Election Day, the more apparent it is that Obama is not only losing, but losing big. The Obama campaign, and by "campaign" I mean members of the media and polling organizations, is trying to convince prospective Romney voters to believe that all is lost -- in which case, they hope, we will stay home.

I wonder how they're going to handle it when Obama gets sworn in for a second term? do you think they'll crack up completely or find a way to come to terms with a reality they've feared for 2 years now...?
 
2012-09-28 10:48:23 AM  
As long as there are two Republican parties and people want to equate the Tea Party Republicans with EVERY Republican, then the party is farked. Not that that makes Mitt someone even the most sane and un-Teatardish Republican wants to elect, but still.

In general, the parties are just plain losing touch with reality. Seems like both sides are shifting AWAY from center when it's obvious that's exactly what we don't need. We need compromise, we need moderation, and we need to not argue over every last little petty procedural point in every last vote. Either that, or we need to split up and let the more extreme wings take their halves of the country and prove each other wrong (which, almost invariably, they'll both fail at).
 
2012-09-28 10:49:34 AM  

Hollie Maea: mrshowrules: All of cable news except FNC

You're going to have to take off the "except FNC" part.

Link


Ok. Correction is made but this is getting out of hand so I am officially proposing the List of People Who Are Not Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPWANCATGOPATA for short):

LOPWANCATGOPATA:

Free Republic
Rush Limbaugh
Joe Scarborough (under review)
Bill O'Reilly
Glenn Beck
Michelle Bachman
Rick Santorum
Newt Gingrich (under review)
NRA
Tea Party
Fred Phelps
UnSkewed Polls.com
 
2012-09-28 10:50:23 AM  
Forgot Chuck Norris, Ann Coulter and Paul Ryan
 
2012-09-28 10:51:10 AM  

Weaver95: If anything, the closer we get to Election Day, the more apparent it is that Obama is not only losing, but losing big. The Obama campaign, and by "campaign" I mean members of the media and polling organizations, is trying to convince prospective Romney voters to believe that all is lost -- in which case, they hope, we will stay home.

I wonder how they're going to handle it when Obama gets sworn in for a second term? do you think they'll crack up completely or find a way to come to terms with a reality they've feared for 2 years now...?


I think most will find a way to deal with it, most likely though they will be yelling about election fraud and the need for more voter restriction. But I think there will be a few that completely crack up.
 
2012-09-28 10:53:10 AM  

mrshowrules: Hollie Maea: mrshowrules: All of cable news except FNC

You're going to have to take off the "except FNC" part.

Link

Ok. Correction is made but this is getting out of hand so I am officially proposing the List of People Who Are Not Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPWANCATGOPATA for short):

LOPWANCATGOPATA:

Free Republic
Rush Limbaugh
Joe Scarborough (under review)
Bill O'Reilly
Glenn Beck
Michelle Bachman
Rick Santorum
Newt Gingrich (under review)
NRA
Tea Party
Fred Phelps
UnSkewed Polls.com


Yeah, you're gonna need to go ahead and take Scarborough off that list.
 
2012-09-28 10:54:06 AM  

mrshowrules: Forgot Chuck Norris, Ann Coulter and Paul Ryan


I noticed Romney isn't listed.
 
2012-09-28 10:54:10 AM  

Jackson Herring: God Is My Co-Pirate: I know I shouldn't complain about the tag, because welcome to fark, but seriously, "interesting"?

It is indeed interesting to laugh at these people and their rejection of objective, observable reality


I suppose "this link is bad and you should feel bad" wouldn't fit on a tag.
 
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