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(The Sun)   Hey everybody feel free to get back to your reality television and Starbucks. If a rogue asteroid ever does threaten the planet, the Brits are on it   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 40
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2012-09-28 09:30:50 AM
"Hello, Swindon, I am here. Swindon, can you hear me?"
 
2012-09-28 10:13:55 AM
We're entrusting the fate of the world to a ginger?
 
2012-09-28 11:52:21 AM
Also, America is on it, which is in the article.
 
2012-09-28 11:52:34 AM
FTFA: Their prime aim is to travel to an asteroid in a shuttle, then spend up to 30 days skimming it on a smaller craft so they can grab samples from it and place sensors.

I foresee a slight problem with their cunning plan.
 
2012-09-28 11:53:16 AM
I should be so lucky to have Kara Thrace as something to get "back to".
 
2012-09-28 11:56:02 AM
What are the Brits doing riding asteroids around the solar system? I mean, I know that they have that space turtle...
 
2012-09-28 11:57:43 AM
Can't Dr Who just sonic screwdriver the asteroid or something?
 
2012-09-28 11:58:04 AM
Ground control to Major Tim.
 
2012-09-28 11:58:25 AM
Still no cure for the Sun.
 
2012-09-28 11:58:39 AM
Hello, Commander.

In response to the alien threat, this council of nations has chosen to activate the XCOM project.
 
2012-09-28 11:59:18 AM
i.imgur.com

"Benton. That asteroid. Five rounds rapid."
 
2012-09-28 12:00:48 PM
"The Queen of England just asked us to save the world. Anyone wanna say no?"
 
2012-09-28 12:05:20 PM

uncleacid: Ground control to Major Tim Ian.


Or Nigel, or Simon.
 
2012-09-28 12:08:30 PM
i.qkme.me
 
2012-09-28 12:13:26 PM
I bet he pulls a lot of nice strange.
 
2012-09-28 12:14:15 PM
Captain Britain to the rescue?
 
2012-09-28 12:18:35 PM

texdent: Captain Britain to the rescue?


Angloman, away!
 
2012-09-28 12:20:10 PM

StaleCoffee: Hello, Commander.

In response to the alien threat, this council of nations has chosen to activate the XCOM project.


Good Luck.
 
2012-09-28 12:20:14 PM
Their prime aim is to travel to an asteroid in a shuttle, then spend up to 30 days skimming it on a smaller craft so they can grab samples from it and place sensors.

That sounds awesome and all, but did they notice we've moved away from manned spaceflight because 'bots are vastly cheaper and far, far more capable?
 
2012-09-28 12:25:25 PM
Extreme Environment Missions Operations

Extreme EMO
 


If their job gets replaced by robots, I hope they name them Marvin.
 
2012-09-28 12:26:24 PM
Yeah right, everyone knows that only America is capable of saving the world from extinction level events.

/Explosions are a majority of our GNP
 
2012-09-28 12:29:02 PM
No golf claps for the article headline? Come on, "Armageddon ready to save the world" deserves something!
 
2012-09-28 12:32:40 PM
Americans all save the earth like this, with explosions and on important dates like Independence day, but we Brits, we save the Earth with proper etiquette and refined, yet understated good taste. Then we have a great parade with a giant Queen and a fireworks show that goes wrong because the powder was damp in the rain, but we all laugh at how these things go wrong.

You all sit back and watch the show, it's gonna be a heck of a ride. going to be a most enjoyable evening.
 
2012-09-28 12:34:57 PM
What are they going to do? Threaten it with boiled meat, limp vegetables, and mysterious brown sauces?
 
2012-09-28 12:37:08 PM
Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
 
2012-09-28 12:38:09 PM
imageshack.us
Right-o!
 
2012-09-28 12:52:08 PM

Grapple: Can't Dr Who just sonic screwdriver the asteroid or something?


Everyone knows sonic screwdrivers don't work on organic material, jeez......
 
2012-09-28 12:54:27 PM
I'm glad somebody is keeping an eye open for low probability, high risk threats, but if an asteroid threatens the Earth, we'll need a whole lot more resources and speedy action than the UK can round up, let alone Europe or the UNO.

Even assuming that the Young Lions, Canada, Newfoundland, Australia, New Zealand, and formerly South Africa, were to heed Mother's call to act, it would require the resources of at least the United States and probably Europe or Asia to even begin to respond properly if a threat were discovered and the day and hour of impact known give or take a few hundred miles.

One, we can't see most asteroids or track them. They come at us from the direction of the Sun, which means very short notice.

Two, there's not a lot you can do to divert an asteroid that is coming at you close and fast--if you have a long range forecast of its path you might be able to do something, but if you have short notice, there's essentially no way to stop it despite what the movies suggest.

Three, blowing up asteroids means you get hit in a lot of places, while leaving them alone means you get hit hard in one place.

Four, over seventy percent of the surface is ocean, which means tsunamis. Otherwise, there's slight chance of a direct hit on a major city. Asteroids would mostly hit tundra, desert or forest, with disastrous results but not necessarily global, life-threatening results.

Five, there are no political alliances or bodies that specifically take responsability for asteroid impact planning and prevention, let alone response. We'd be winging it on a prayer and whatever food and water you have in your fridge, cupboard or basement. It would be chaos.

One realistic detail of the movies is that there is always a dumb-ass (usually right wing) Senator who cuts the funding for everything even remotely linked to the coming disaster, be it NASA, emergency response, the police, science, or whatever it is that the hero and his or her estranged spouse do for a living.

This is bound to happen: there are no political brownie points for doing things that are very unlikely to be needed before the next election. In fact, a politician who isn't running in the next election may not care if he destroys emergency planning and response ability for a disaster that's scheduled for Tuesday next.

Humans are very poor at assessing risk, probability, truth value, etc. Otherwise there would be no "debate" about climate change. 97% of the climatologists who are active in their field agree on climate: it's here, it's queer, get used to it.

Climate change deniers and thousands of other denialist camps have their heads further up their arses than Ahmadinejad's Iranian proctologist's finger. But they are nothing to the amount of denial that is involved whenever a "Black Swan" threatens life, limb, health, property, the economy, the environment or anything.

People worry about the wrong things, and confuse important with urgent all of the time. We learn this at work all of the time but we don't carry over the idea from work to science and politics and religion and everything from household safety to the Universe and Everything.

42 is the number of orders of magnitude that the average human being is off in assessing the risk of being killed by an asteroid, climate change, stupidity, etc.

And the smarter idiots are, the greater their idiocy. It doesn't even help to teach them logic, the scientific method, or the facts. They are just as stupid and thoughtless and deluded about things when they are super-informed, intelligent and engaged with politics, religion or science as they are when they are really, really apathetic, dumb and lazy.

As the philosopher said, logic never convinces. About the only thing that convinces is a boot to the head from the real world, and even then the average human will blame the moral equivalent of fairies rather than themselves, their false gods or the real cause of their misery.

The Pope ought to declare St. Jude and St. Anthony the Patron Saints of risk assessment. One, it is hopeless, two, the signal is often lost beyond recovery in the noise of daily and collective life. Consensual reality has almost nothing to do with the way the world really words. It is seldom consensual and almost never reality. That's why Philip K. Dick is one of my favourite authors and my distant relations, Dr. Ezekiel Stone Wiggins and Lyndon H. Larouche Jr. Fartknocker are two of my favourite genealogical finds. They remind us all that the world is full of wise fools and complete loonies and that there is more hope an ignorant Bangladeshi peasant will get it than a U.S. Senator worthy of The March of Morons.

Unfortunately, the ignorant Bangladeshi peasants are the ones wading through flood waters up to their tits with small B&W TVs balanced on their heads.

Like Homer Simpson, most of the world's men think "Save the TV" first--the wife can save the children. It's her job to carry children. You wouldn't want to entrust the most important thing since fire to a woman.
 
2012-09-28 01:04:06 PM

Oznog: Their prime aim is to travel to an asteroid in a shuttle, then spend up to 30 days skimming it on a smaller craft so they can grab samples from it and place sensors.

That sounds awesome and all, but did they notice we've moved away from manned spaceflight because 'bots are vastly cheaper and far, far more capable?


Who is 'we'? I'm pretty sure that the Chinese have other ideas.
 
2012-09-28 01:08:04 PM

brantgoose: I'm glad somebody is keeping an eye open for low probability, high risk threats, but if an asteroid threatens the Earth, we'll need a whole lot more resources and speedy action than the UK can round up, let alone Europe or the UNO.

Even assuming that the Young Lions, Canada, Newfoundland, Australia, New Zealand, and formerly South Africa, were to heed Mother's call to act, it would require the resources of at least the United States and probably Europe or Asia to even begin to respond properly if a threat were discovered and the day and hour of impact known give or take a few hundred miles.

One, we can't see most asteroids or track them. They come at us from the direction of the Sun, which means very short notice.

Two, there's not a lot you can do to divert an asteroid that is coming at you close and fast--if you have a long range forecast of its path you might be able to do something, but if you have short notice, there's essentially no way to stop it despite what the movies suggest.

Three, blowing up asteroids means you get hit in a lot of places, while leaving them alone means you get hit hard in one place.

Four, over seventy percent of the surface is ocean, which means tsunamis. Otherwise, there's slight chance of a direct hit on a major city. Asteroids would mostly hit tundra, desert or forest, with disastrous results but not necessarily global, life-threatening results.

Five, there are no political alliances or bodies that specifically take responsability for asteroid impact planning and prevention, let alone response. We'd be winging it on a prayer and whatever food and water you have in your fridge, cupboard or basement. It would be chaos.

One realistic detail of the movies is that there is always a dumb-ass (usually right wing) Senator who cuts the funding for everything even remotely linked to the coming disaster, be it NASA, emergency response, the police, science, or whatever it is that the hero and his or her estranged spouse do for a living.

Th ...


That's the longest post I have ever seen that contains nothing but conjecture and spurious 'facts'.
 
2012-09-28 01:13:23 PM

adeist69: Grapple: Can't Dr Who just sonic screwdriver the asteroid or something?

Everyone knows sonic screwdrivers don't work on organic material, jeez......


I thought it was just wood.
 
2012-09-28 01:19:18 PM

brantgoose: I'm glad somebody is keeping an eye open for low probability, high risk threats, but if an asteroid threatens the Earth, we'll need a whole lot more resources and speedy action than the UK can round up, let alone Europe or the UNO . . . + a lot of other TL;DR

 
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2012-09-28 01:44:51 PM
Did I read the article wrong? This is a British Astronaut on a NASA (US) space mission where he's one of three astronauts.

So how is it that Britain "is on it"?
 
2012-09-28 01:50:43 PM

Private_Citizen: Did I read the article wrong? This is a British Astronaut on a NASA (US) space mission where he's one of three astronauts.

So how is it that Britain "is on it"?


How does NASA work?

/Sept 28th
 
2012-09-28 02:46:21 PM

kombat_unit: Private_Citizen: Did I read the article wrong? This is a British Astronaut on a NASA (US) space mission where he's one of three astronauts.

So how is it that Britain "is on it"?

How does NASA work?

/Sept 28th


"How does NASA work?" Not sure if serious, but it's a US Government agency funded by the US Tax Payers.

Major Peake is a guest astronaut on the 16th NEEMO mission.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEEMO
So, I ask again; how is it that Britian "is on it"?
 
2012-09-28 02:54:25 PM
Actually, in re-reading the wiki, he would actually be an "aquanaut", as the NEEMO missions are carried out underwater, not in space.
 
2012-09-28 03:03:49 PM
the sad thing is, by blowing up an asteroid. u will increase the amount of potential projectiles to hit the Earth.
 
2012-09-28 03:47:52 PM

Private_Citizen: kombat_unit: Private_Citizen: Did I read the article wrong? This is a British Astronaut on a NASA (US) space mission where he's one of three astronauts.

So how is it that Britain "is on it"?

How does NASA work?

/Sept 28th

"How does NASA work?" Not sure if serious, but it's a US Government agency funded by the US Tax Payers.

Major Peake is a guest astronaut on the 16th NEEMO mission.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEEMO
So, I ask again; how is it that Britian "is on it"?


Magnetic rainbows.
 
2012-09-28 06:53:58 PM
I believe it.

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-09-28 08:34:45 PM
www.sfgate.com
 
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