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2012-09-27 10:35:55 AM  
So Mittens only hope is to beat one of the best speakers of our time in a debate? Not just beat but crush and humiliate.

/OK snowball, you can do this. You can make it through Hell and come out the other side. All you have to do is not melt. Good luck and God speed.
//Romney is DOOOOoooooooomed
 
2012-09-27 10:36:47 AM  
I hope he talks about what a success RomneyCare is.
 
2012-09-27 10:39:11 AM  

Aarontology: I hope he talks about what a success RomneyCare is.


Preferably in the same breath in which he expresses his desire to repeal nationwide-RomneyCare.
 
2012-09-27 10:41:15 AM  

I've been to the future, and i have a picture of a post-debate Mitt Romney:

meghanh4.edublogs.org


Thankfully, nothing was burned. Just deeply singed.
 
2012-09-27 10:41:55 AM  

Voiceofreason01: So Mittens only hope is to beat one of the best speakers of our time in a debate? Not just beat but crush and humiliate.


While Barack Obama is a good public speaker, I don't think he's a great debater. I'd say him and Mitt Romney are about evenly matched in the debates.

Obama tends to be too, uh, clinical and, uh, pauses, uh, a little, uh, too often. Romney looks very uncomfortable when challenged and sometimes responds with too much smugness.

If they were giving dueling speeches, Obama would probably win comfortably.
 
2012-09-27 10:44:57 AM  

JerseyTim: While Barack Obama is a good public speaker, I don't think he's a great debater. I'd say him and Mitt Romney are about evenly matched in the debates.


Have you seen Mitt Romney debate?
 
2012-09-27 10:45:19 AM  
At this point I feel like if and only if Romney accidentally lights his podium on fire does the President have a fighting chance
 
2012-09-27 10:46:39 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: While Barack Obama is a good public speaker, I don't think he's a great debater. I'd say him and Mitt Romney are about evenly matched in the debates.

Have you seen Mitt Romney debate?


Yes, and I've seen Obama debate. I'm not picking either in the first round of my forensics fantasy team.
 
2012-09-27 10:49:06 AM  

King Something: Aarontology: I hope he talks about what a success RomneyCare is.

Preferably in the same breath in which he expresses his desire to repeal nationwide-RomneyCare.


That would be a hoot.

"I have a record of being pro-health insurance and getting people covered. Which is why I would be the better choice for real health care reform by repealing ObamaCare"
 
2012-09-27 10:50:07 AM  

JerseyTim: cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: While Barack Obama is a good public speaker, I don't think he's a great debater. I'd say him and Mitt Romney are about evenly matched in the debates.

Have you seen Mitt Romney debate?

Yes, and I've seen Obama debate. I'm not picking either in the first round of my forensics fantasy team.


It's as if you have never seen someone say "uh" in a speech before. I don't recall that being an issue when he handily beat McCain in 2008.

Romney, on the other hand, makes $10,000 bets and is prone to being angered. Obama will win easily. Even if he says "uh" a couple times.
 
2012-09-27 10:51:12 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: At this point I feel like if and only if Romney accidentally lights his podium on fire does the President have a fighting chance


What if he Romney starts sweating uncontrollably and then spends the next ten minutes berating his podium for being a moocher and not having a job?
 
2012-09-27 10:53:02 AM  
I'm anticipating that we're going to see a performance which resembles Morgan Freeman debating the Chevy Chase version of Gerald Ford.
 
2012-09-27 10:58:41 AM  

Voiceofreason01: DammitIForgotMyLogin: At this point I feel like if and only if Romney accidentally lights his podium on fire does the President have a fighting chance

What if he Romney starts sweating uncontrollably and then spends the next ten minutes berating his podium for being a moocher and not having a job?


What if Obama turns around, bends over and starts quoting Mitt Romney while talking out of his ass like Jim Carrey?
officialemmastone.com
 
2012-09-27 11:00:08 AM  

Krymson Tyde:
What if he Romney starts sweating uncontrollably and then spends the next ten minutes berating his podium for being a moocher and not having a job?

What if Obama turns around, bends over and starts quoting Mitt Romney while talking out of his ass like Jim Carrey?
[officialemmastone.com image 480x360]


I'd still vote for him before Romney.

/Romney sweating and calling poor people names is A LOT more likely though
 
2012-09-27 11:00:48 AM  
Sooooo excited!
 
2012-09-27 11:20:47 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: While Barack Obama is a good public speaker, I don't think he's a great debater. I'd say him and Mitt Romney are about evenly matched in the debates.

Have you seen Mitt Romney debate?

Yes, and I've seen Obama debate. I'm not picking either in the first round of my forensics fantasy team.

It's as if you have never seen someone say "uh" in a speech before. I don't recall that being an issue when he handily beat McCain in 2008.

Romney, on the other hand, makes $10,000 bets and is prone to being angered. Obama will win easily. Even if he says "uh" a couple times.


If his campaign wasn't on fire at the moment, I would beg to differ with you simply because Romney's weak spot of being easily angered would be recognized and coached out of him by a competent debate prep team.

But seeing as his campaign staff is probably too busy contemplating mass suicide, you are probably right.
 
2012-09-27 11:23:20 AM  

gilgigamesh: If his campaign wasn't on fire at the moment, I would beg to differ with you simply because Romney's weak spot of being easily angered would be recognized and coached out of him by a competent debate prep team.


This also depends upon Romney being capable to accepting criticism and direction from people he considers lesser than himself.
 
2012-09-27 11:34:22 AM  

Aarontology: gilgigamesh: If his campaign wasn't on fire at the moment, I would beg to differ with you simply because Romney's weak spot of being easily angered would be recognized and coached out of him by a competent debate prep team.

This also depends upon Romney being capable to accepting criticism and direction from people he considers lesser than himself.


Also, both Romney and his staff all consider being a total dick to be the same as giving a good answer. So I'm guessing that in the debate coaching, Romney mostly gives dickish responses, and his crew all say "wow that was really good!"
 
2012-09-27 11:45:37 AM  

Hollie Maea: Aarontology: gilgigamesh: If his campaign wasn't on fire at the moment, I would beg to differ with you simply because Romney's weak spot of being easily angered would be recognized and coached out of him by a competent debate prep team.

This also depends upon Romney being capable to accepting criticism and direction from people he considers lesser than himself.

Also, both Romney and his staff all consider being a total dick to be the same as giving a good answer. So I'm guessing that in the debate coaching, Romney mostly gives dickish responses, and his crew all say "wow that was really good!"


Yep. I don't think they've truly understood that the board room is a bit different than most situations.
 
2012-09-27 11:49:11 AM  

gilgigamesh: If his campaign wasn't on fire at the moment, I would beg to differ with you simply because Romney's weak spot of being easily angered would be recognized and coached out of him by a competent debate prep team.


The other day Romney said (jokingly), that after his mock debates with Portman he wanted to "kick him out of the room." Why he would joke about getting that frustrated with the guy pretending to be Obama beats me, but it makes me think that temper may not be in check just yet.
 
2012-09-27 11:52:08 AM  
This November will be an unMITTigated disaster!
 
2012-09-27 11:56:01 AM  

WI241TH: gilgigamesh: If his campaign wasn't on fire at the moment, I would beg to differ with you simply because Romney's weak spot of being easily angered would be recognized and coached out of him by a competent debate prep team.

The other day Romney said (jokingly), that after his mock debates with Portman he wanted to "kick him out of the room." Why he would joke about getting that frustrated with the guy pretending to be Obama beats me, but it makes me think that temper may not be in check just yet.


So what might be a good tactic is if Obama takes his first few seconds, points at himself, then points at Romney, drops his mic on the floor, walks over, rubs his dick on Romney's mic and tosses it to the crowd, then stands there smiling for the rest of the debate. Romney's head will unscrew, steam will shoot out of his ears, and he'll call Obama everything but a Child of God. Game over.
 
2012-09-27 11:56:17 AM  

choo: This November will be an unMITTigated disaster!


i72.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-27 11:58:55 AM  
Romney is going to run out there and call Obama a liar and Obama is going to smile and chuckle a bit and say something like "I have the full report stating A back at the White House, I can send it to you after the debate if you need a refresher".
 
2012-09-27 12:09:41 PM  

dahmers love zombie: So what might be a good tactic is if Obama takes his first few seconds, points at himself, then points at Romney, drops his mic on the floor, walks over, rubs his dick on Romney's mic and tosses it to the crowd, then stands there smiling for the rest of the debate. Romney's head will unscrew, steam will shoot out of his ears, and he'll call Obama everything but a Child of God. Game over.


...Maybe he should save that for the third debate
 
2012-09-27 12:25:22 PM  
Mitt hasn't said anything of substance about his platform. Nothing. He could go into the debates and counter Obama's charges of this by actually spelling out his plans. This could catch Obama off guard enough for him to win the debate.

Why yes, I am paranoid. I'm a Bills fan. I've seen 4 Super Bowl losses in a row. Seeing victory snatched away at the last second is almost in my DNA.

I am glad others are more optimistic.
 
2012-09-27 12:33:29 PM  
We're talking about a guy who got flustered by Rick Scott. He's a long, long, longshot to beat Obama in the debates.
 
2012-09-27 12:41:24 PM  
Mitt Romney can't even win a debate with himself. He's taken opposing positions on just about every issue at one time or another.
 
2012-09-27 12:42:51 PM  
The problem he really faces is how he and the echo chamber define victory.

If he answers every question with "The Outsourcer in Chief wants to steal your money and redistribute it to the cheaters" and "I'm all about doing what's best for America" with no other substance whatsoever, they'll declare it a flawless victory.
 
2012-09-27 12:43:07 PM  
i.imgur.com

Mitt's last hope for a Flawless Victory will be to master the very difficult Kintaro transformation. Then he's got a chance. Not a great chance, but at least a chance. 

/current favorite move to do at the dinner table
//trying to teach it to the kids
///wife thinks I'm crazy 
 
2012-09-27 12:49:02 PM  
mutantreviewers.files.wordpress.com  
 
Mitt Romney, "It'll be a slaughter!"
 
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Karl Rove, "That's the spirit!"
 
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Mitt, "No Karl, my slaughter."
 
2012-09-27 12:49:53 PM  
All Obama has to do to clinch this thing is to end the debates with "this isn't some empty chair that you're talking to. This isn't the imaginary Obama that is in your head. I'm the REAL Barack Obama, and your portrayal of me and reality are not even close."
 
2012-09-27 12:50:04 PM  
The problem Romney has is that Obama would have to shoot himself in the foot. He won't do that. He's been president for four years and hasn't made a catastrophic public speaking error. His gods and guns comment was maybe the worst thing he said and let's be honest, it's true. You didn't built that was completely taken out of context.

Obama fared well against a good debater in Hillary and also against McCain. Romney is not the worst on his feet but he comes off like a clown on stage regardless of whether or not he's right.
 
2012-09-27 12:50:14 PM  

WI241TH: The other day Romney said (jokingly), that after his mock debates with Portman he wanted to "kick him out of the room." Why he would joke about getting that frustrated with the guy pretending to be Obama beats me, but it makes me think that temper may not be in check just yet.


Perhaps I will tune in after all. I really don't want to right now---its so painful to watch Romney's awkwardness. Its why I can't get into the British version of The Office. Too hard to watch.
 
2012-09-27 12:50:38 PM  
Besides, the polls don't lie.  No one even needs to vote.  Obama's got this in the bag people.  Why you so worried?
 
2012-09-27 12:50:41 PM  

unlikely: The problem he really faces is how he and the echo chamber define victory.

If he answers every question with "The Outsourcer in Chief wants to steal your money and redistribute it to the cheaters" and "I'm all about doing what's best for America" with no other substance whatsoever, they'll declare it a flawless victory.


True, but they were gonna declare it a flawless victory for Romney no matter what happens, and they've already decided about 46-and-a-half months ago that they would not vote for Obama in 2012 under any circumstances.

The problem Mitt faces is trying to win over any voters who are not in the echo chamber.
 
2012-09-27 12:50:47 PM  

I_C_Weener: [mutantreviewers.files.wordpress.com image 525x350]  
 
Mitt Romney, "It'll be a slaughter!"
 
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Karl Rove, "That's the spirit!"
 
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Mitt, "No Karl, my slaughter."


You bastard. They win, in the end.

The other guy? "We die."
 
2012-09-27 12:53:50 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Mitt hasn't said anything of substance about his platform. Nothing. He could go into the debates and counter Obama's charges of this by actually spelling out his plans. This could catch Obama off guard enough for him to win the debate.


That's true, but it's a big risk on the Romney camp's part as it would have to be specifics for a policy that hasn't been floated before (to keep Obama off guard), but one that fits the general rubric of the campaign platform already (repealing ACA, lowering tax rates, aggressive foreign policy, etc.).

Obama has a couple of different options at that point: (1) respond directly to specifics, (2) brush it off as another plan that Romney will reverse on in the next few days, (3) follow up with own talking points/plan, or (4) goad Romney into screwing up the plan.
 
2012-09-27 12:54:56 PM  

Nadie_AZ: I_C_Weener: [mutantreviewers.files.wordpress.com image 525x350]  
 
Mitt Romney, "It'll be a slaughter!"
 
[t3.gstatic.com image 200x248]
 
Karl Rove, "That's the spirit!"
 
[i2.ytimg.com image 320x180]
 
Mitt, "No Karl, my slaughter."

You bastard. They win, in the end.

The other guy? "We die."



I love quoting those lines though.  I re-watched it recently.  That is really a bad movie.  No idea why I have such fond memories of it.
 
2012-09-27 12:56:41 PM  

I_C_Weener: I love quoting those lines though.  I re-watched it recently.  That is really a bad movie.  No idea why I have such fond memories of it.


I dunno. I saw it a few years ago. It wasn't nearly the 'Star Wars' kind of movie I'd remembered it being, but it wasn't bad. I'll say this: I've never seen a mobile home park look so damn good.
 
2012-09-27 01:01:14 PM  
Romney has to be under incredible levels of pressure. moreso than at any other time in his life. the sad thing is, even if a miracle occurs and Romney hits the ball outta the park at the first debate....he still only breaks even. he doesn't gain anything.

*sigh*

that said, given Romney's past history of flubs, gaffes and flat out lies (not to mention his anger management issues and generally deadpan delivery) I'd have to say the odds are against Romney doing well in a debate against Obama.
 
2012-09-27 01:05:21 PM  
Wednesday is going to be a hell of a TV viewing day for me. My friend is on Jeopardy! and then Mittens is going to be lambasted.
 
2012-09-27 01:05:49 PM  

Weaver95: Romney has to be under incredible levels of pressure. moreso than at any other time in his life. the sad thing is, even if a miracle occurs and Romney hits the ball outta the park at the first debate....he still only breaks even. he doesn't gain anything.

*sigh*

that said, given Romney's past history of flubs, gaffes and flat out lies (not to mention his anger management issues and generally deadpan delivery) I'd have to say the odds are against Romney doing well in a debate against Obama.


I was watching a documentary on Hunter Thompson recently and his coverage of the '72 election. He spread a false rumor about a Democratic candidate being hooked on some drug or other, all while the candidate he supported was actually using stimulants to get through the campaign. So we know, historically, that candidates will use coffee, alcohol, nicotine, and other drugs to last during such a grueling, stressful and demanding period of time. Romney uses none of these The human body does have limits. He is reaching those limits, I suspect.
 
2012-09-27 01:11:15 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Weaver95: Romney has to be under incredible levels of pressure. moreso than at any other time in his life. the sad thing is, even if a miracle occurs and Romney hits the ball outta the park at the first debate....he still only breaks even. he doesn't gain anything.

*sigh*

that said, given Romney's past history of flubs, gaffes and flat out lies (not to mention his anger management issues and generally deadpan delivery) I'd have to say the odds are against Romney doing well in a debate against Obama.

I was watching a documentary on Hunter Thompson recently and his coverage of the '72 election. He spread a false rumor about a Democratic candidate being hooked on some drug or other, all while the candidate he supported was actually using stimulants to get through the campaign. So we know, historically, that candidates will use coffee, alcohol, nicotine, and other drugs to last during such a grueling, stressful and demanding period of time. Romney uses none of these The human body does have limits. He is reaching those limits, I suspect.


oh I don't think Romney actually follows all the petty details of his chosen religion. i'm sure he's gulping coffee by the gallons while off camera. In fact, I wouldn't blame him if he was on some form of mood stabilizer or anti-depressant. He's under enormous pressure and he HAS to get it right during the debates. sure, no matter what happens both sides will claim victory...but Obama is a damn good public speaker, with a relaxed style and projects an 'at ease' attitude during his time on stage. Romney has *always* come across as uncomfortable on stage, and his flat delivery and wooden style of speaking is practically a trademark. Romney's people have to be terrified that Romney will end up being the 'straight man' to Obama's set up comedy routine.
 
2012-09-27 01:11:43 PM  

I_C_Weener: I love quoting those lines though. I re-watched it recently. That is really a bad movie.


It's certainly no "Solarbabies."
 
2012-09-27 01:15:47 PM  

Weaver95: Nadie_AZ: Weaver95: Romney has to be under incredible levels of pressure. moreso than at any other time in his life. the sad thing is, even if a miracle occurs and Romney hits the ball outta the park at the first debate....he still only breaks even. he doesn't gain anything.

*sigh*

that said, given Romney's past history of flubs, gaffes and flat out lies (not to mention his anger management issues and generally deadpan delivery) I'd have to say the odds are against Romney doing well in a debate against Obama.

I was watching a documentary on Hunter Thompson recently and his coverage of the '72 election. He spread a false rumor about a Democratic candidate being hooked on some drug or other, all while the candidate he supported was actually using stimulants to get through the campaign. So we know, historically, that candidates will use coffee, alcohol, nicotine, and other drugs to last during such a grueling, stressful and demanding period of time. Romney uses none of these The human body does have limits. He is reaching those limits, I suspect.

oh I don't think Romney actually follows all the petty details of his chosen religion. i'm sure he's gulping coffee by the gallons while off camera. In fact, I wouldn't blame him if he was on some form of mood stabilizer or anti-depressant. He's under enormous pressure and he HAS to get it right during the debates. sure, no matter what happens both sides will claim victory...but Obama is a damn good public speaker, with a relaxed style and projects an 'at ease' attitude during his time on stage. Romney has *always* come across as uncomfortable on stage, and his flat delivery and wooden style of speaking is practically a trademark. Romney's people have to be terrified that Romney will end up being the 'straight man' to Obama's set up comedy routine.


Nixon JFK.

Got it.

We'll see. I want to believe.
 
2012-09-27 01:16:02 PM  
It should be interesting at least...
 
2012-09-27 01:20:17 PM  

hubiestubert: It should be interesting at least...


I think at least some of us will be tuning in to see if Romney finally cracks under the pressure while on live TV....
 
2012-09-27 01:21:26 PM  
And this sort of sh*t also worries me.

The media is going to hype a Romney come back. For their profit.
 
2012-09-27 01:25:09 PM  

Nadie_AZ: And this sort of sh*t also worries me.

The media is going to hype a Romney come back. For their profit.


I have no doubt that is the direction Fox News will take, as will Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. that said...the big news agencies don't control the message as much as they used to in the past. people can - and will - make their own call on Romney's performance, and will no doubt blog about it endlessly.
 
2012-09-27 01:30:26 PM  

Weaver95: Nadie_AZ: And this sort of sh*t also worries me.

The media is going to hype a Romney come back. For their profit.

I have no doubt that is the direction Fox News will take, as will Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. that said...the big news agencies don't control the message as much as they used to in the past. people can - and will - make their own call on Romney's performance, and will no doubt blog about it endlessly.


That's really the rub. And I think that this is sort of what fuels the lack of fact checking by major news organizations at this point. This election generates ratings, and that means cash, so the media has a vested interest in making this a "close" race.
 
2012-09-27 01:31:37 PM  
The only way for Romney to get a flawless victory is for Obama to not show up at all. And even then it is not a sure thing.

Obama could just stand there mute and shake his head at every statement that Romney makes and has a chance of winning the debate.
 
2012-09-27 01:42:25 PM  

Slives: The only way for Romney to get a flawless victory is for Obama to not show up at all.



What if Romney were to start giving away phones?  Would that help?  Its the political equivalent of grabbing the nearest idiot from the trailer park to describe the tornado.
 
2012-09-27 01:45:39 PM  
Anyone have drinking game rules yet?

//DNRT
 
2012-09-27 01:46:10 PM  
I'd love it if Obama just walked out on the stage, put an empty chair in front of the podium, told Mitt to have at it and left.
 
2012-09-27 01:59:45 PM  

I_C_Weener: Slives: The only way for Romney to get a flawless victory is for Obama to not show up at all.


What if Romney were to start giving away phones?  Would that help?  Its the political equivalent of grabbing the nearest idiot from the trailer park to describe the tornado.


I sure hope she shared whatever it is she's tripping on. Looks like some good stuff.
 
2012-09-27 02:00:36 PM  
Do we have rules for the 2012 debate drinking game yet? I'm trying to plan ahead.
 
2012-09-27 02:03:48 PM  

unlikely: The problem he really faces is how he and the echo chamber define victory.

If he answers every question with "The Outsourcer in Chief wants to steal your money and redistribute it to the cheaters" and "I'm all about doing what's best for America" with no other substance whatsoever, they'll declare it a flawless victory.


Clarification of the problem: They'll BELIEVE it was a flawless victory.
 
2012-09-27 02:25:15 PM  
The only thing that will be flawless about Romney's debate performance is the way he'll put his entire leg in his mouth.
 
2012-09-27 02:27:44 PM  

Jubeebee: Do we have rules for the 2012 debate drinking game yet? I'm trying to plan ahead.


I need a set of rules for election night, too. I am throwing a party and we're watching it all on Fox.
 
2012-09-27 02:32:25 PM  

Jubeebee: Do we have rules for the 2012 debate drinking game yet? I'm trying to plan ahead.


I'll start working on it.
 
2012-09-27 02:34:23 PM  
Romney understands that he's probably going to have to stick with whatever he says, right?

It's not going to be like the lat few months where he says one thing, then says the exact opposite the next day. Or even 20 minutes later.
 
2012-09-27 02:36:01 PM  

Somacandra: WI241TH: The other day Romney said (jokingly), that after his mock debates with Portman he wanted to "kick him out of the room." Why he would joke about getting that frustrated with the guy pretending to be Obama beats me, but it makes me think that temper may not be in check just yet.

Perhaps I will tune in after all. I really don't want to right now---its so painful to watch Romney's awkwardness. Its why I can't get into the British version of The Office. Too hard to watch.


The British version of "The Office" is hard to watch because it isn't funny.
 
2012-09-27 02:38:26 PM  
I think the presidential debates are going to be fairly boring. Romney doesn't have the ability to throw a knockout punch, and Obama doesn't have the need. Obama will deliver his standard stump speech broken into sound bytes. Romney will take a few swings, miss, and Obama will shrug them off and stay on message.

The vice-presidential debate, OTOH, could get interesting. They're both contenders for 2016, and Biden will have a chance to rub the Romney stench on Ryan hard enough to make it stick for 4 years.
 
2012-09-27 02:48:40 PM  

Aarontology: Romney understands that he's probably going to have to stick with whatever he says, right?

It's not going to be like the lat few months where he says one thing, then says the exact opposite the next day. Or even 20 minutes later.


Hahaha that's so cute
 
2012-09-27 02:50:31 PM  
Political scientists that study these things have found that people's minds aren't much changed by the debates. If he's gonna win, its likely not going to be the debates.
 
2012-09-27 02:51:16 PM  

Jackson Herring: Aarontology: Romney understands that he's probably going to have to stick with whatever he says, right?

It's not going to be like the lat few months where he says one thing, then says the exact opposite the next day. Or even 20 minutes later.

Hahaha that's so cute


I can dream, can't I?
 
2012-09-27 02:52:08 PM  
Some Republican commentators are already predicting that Romney will bomb

Link
 
2012-09-27 02:52:35 PM  
A picture of what people who actually watch debates looks like:

cdn-www.cracked.com 

"When is Eisenhower coming on?"

"WHAT?"

"WHEN IS EISENHOWER COMING ONTO THE PROGRAM?"

"WHAT?"
 
2012-09-27 02:52:41 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: While Barack Obama is a good public speaker, I don't think he's a great debater. I'd say him and Mitt Romney are about evenly matched in the debates.

Have you seen Mitt Romney debate?


I bet you $10,000 that he's going to expose Obama's elitist mentality.
 
2012-09-27 02:53:00 PM  
At this point, Romney has a significant advantage - the expectations are so low that, much like Palin vs Biden in '08 - if he doesn't literally shiat his pants while up there, many in the media will try to call it a draw or a slight victory for Romney.

/Literally, not figuratively.
 
2012-09-27 02:55:35 PM  

meat0918: Anyone have drinking game rules yet?

//DNRT


If Rmoney calls Obama "attractive and successful," you need to finish everything you have in the house.
 
2012-09-27 02:55:58 PM  

meat0918: Anyone have drinking game rules yet?

//DNRT


Whenever Mitt says something painful, drink until the pain goes away.

Whenever Obama says something boring and routine that is declared to be OMG SOCIALISM, drink until the pain goes away.

Whenever the Moderator asks a softball question and doesn't even try to get the candidates to stray from predetermined talking points, drink the pain away.
 
2012-09-27 02:56:09 PM  
Mittens only hope...

i.qkme.me
 
2012-09-27 02:57:11 PM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-09-27 02:57:43 PM  
My prediction:

BARACK WINS

BABALITY
 
2012-09-27 02:57:50 PM  

Close2TheEdge: Some Republican commentators are already predicting that Romney will bomb

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Lowering expectations. It's a typical debate strategy. That way, if Mitt doesn't completely blow it the right-wing media can claim victory. Obama's camp is doing it, too. They're saying Obama is busy with world leaders, the world economy, the domestic economy, global security, global trade, y'know, presidential stuff. Obama is way too busy being President to practice debate, so don't expect much.

Y'now, Subby, I'm not sure I like the word "Harvest" when referring to people. Sounds kinda icky. Although I want to plough my wife, I don't think I want her to be harvested.
 
2012-09-27 02:57:54 PM  
His best chance is to claim illness that prevents him from going to the debate. Send his wife in his place.
 
2012-09-27 03:00:09 PM  

bartink: Political scientists that study these things have found that people's minds aren't much changed by the debates. If he's gonna win, its likely not going to be the debates.


They can be changed dramatically, but only for the worse. See also Perry, Rick
 
2012-09-27 03:00:49 PM  
the media will give mitt the victory regardless of what happens. he's in such terrible shape right now, they have to - lest their horserace become a rout (which is bad for ratings)
 
2012-09-27 03:02:36 PM  
Hmm so politico says its "do or die" for Rmoney.... cbs "If you believe the polls it's now or never".

How bout the polls are shiat. Lets wait and see who wins in the actual debates and then who gets voted into the white house.

Or did I just shiat on your political hype gold mine?
 
2012-09-27 03:03:42 PM  
Instead of watching the debates, i'll just play some arcade mode Mk9 as Jax. Will probably be a good representation of the debates.
 
2012-09-27 03:03:42 PM  
Mitt will win it over when he talks about his childhood growing up as a poor hispanic child in East L.A..
 
2012-09-27 03:04:16 PM  

topcon: A picture of what people who actually watch debates looks like:

 

"When is Eisenhower coming on?"

"WHAT?"

"WHEN IS EISENHOWER COMING ONTO THE PROGRAM?"

"WHAT?"


Your tarded.
 
2012-09-27 03:08:08 PM  
Has Mitt done a 1 on 1 debate since running for Gov? Did he even do one then? I know during the Republican ones, he coasted and let everyone have at each other, and when he did open his trap he said ridiculous things.
 
2012-09-27 03:08:19 PM  
Romney is not used to having people disagree with him. All he's ever been is a BOSS. When a boss argues with his underlings, there's always deferrence (since, you know, he can just fire their ass).

I predict Romney will come across as a petulant child.

Watch for a lot of whining and nervous chuckles and strained smiles from Romney, while Obama just stands there smiling and shaking his head, asking the same question, "Well what facts do you have to back any of those points up with, Mr. Romney. I'll forego my 3 minute response and you can have 2 minutes and 45 seconds of MY time to respond with facts. Ready set go."

And he'll flail and stutter and fail terrifically.
 
2012-09-27 03:08:38 PM  
My last hope to bed a supermodel: Waking up tomorrow 30 years younger, 50 pounds lighter, $100 million richer, and with a 9" penis.

I like my chances a whole lot more than I like Mitt's.
 
2012-09-27 03:10:34 PM  
If Rmoney doesn't suffer a nervous breakdown it will be a win for him.

I seriously expect him to go full retard b4 the campaign is over.

/well, fuller retard
 
2012-09-27 03:10:49 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Somacandra: WI241TH: The other day Romney said (jokingly), that after his mock debates with Portman he wanted to "kick him out of the room." Why he would joke about getting that frustrated with the guy pretending to be Obama beats me, but it makes me think that temper may not be in check just yet.

Perhaps I will tune in after all. I really don't want to right now---its so painful to watch Romney's awkwardness. Its why I can't get into the British version of The Office. Too hard to watch.

The British version of "The Office" is hard to watch because it isn't funny.


If you watched the show and didn't laugh, you might be as human as a certain GOP presidential candidate.
 
2012-09-27 03:11:15 PM  
OK, here's what I've got so far. This is a work-in-progress, so everyone feel free to add on to it.

The 2012 Presidential Debate Drinking Game - Semi-Official Fark.com rules

General rules: Use your drink of choice, but be careful. Analysis of this game suggests that an alcoholic coma is likely.

Topic: The Economy
Obama uses either the word "millionaires" or "billionaires": 1 sip
Obama uses the words "millionaires" AND "billionaires" in the same sentence: 2 sips
Romney uses the word "failed": 1 sip
Romney invokes Bain Capital as a reason to elect him: 2 sips, fire your manservant
Either candidate uses the term "middle-class": ½ a sip
Obama says "let me be clear": 1 sip any clear liquor
Romney invokes The Reagan: 2 sips, promptly forget how many sips you took, take 2 more
Either candidate claims that their tax plan will lower the deficit: one sip, yell "YOU LIE"
Either candidate mentions Social Security: Geritol shooter
Romney provides a single tax loophole that he intends to do away with: 3 sips
Romney provides more than one tax loophole that he intends to do away with: chug
Obama uses the term "Ryan Budget": 1 sip

Topic: Domestic Policy
Romney claims credit for RomneyCare: 2 sips
Obama gives Romney effusive credit and compliments for creating RomneyCare: 1 sip, laugh until you pass out and have to be treated in the ER
Romney mentions RomneyCare, but says it's a bad choice for the entire country: 1 sip, stare at TV in the "confused dog" pose
Obama uses the word "abortion": wash down RU-486 with drink
Romney says that corporations are people: 2 sips
Romney talks about government waste within sixty seconds of criticizing Obama for cutting the defense budget: 2 sips
Obama talks about government waste within sixty seconds of criticizing Romney for wanting to cut...unspecified stuff: 2 sips
Either candidate explicitly claims they want to completely get rid of any government program: 2 sips
Romney mentions the $700,000,000,000 in Medicare cuts: take one sip, spit it into another glass
Obama tries to explain the same Medicare cuts: start to take a sip, get bored


Topic: Foreign Policy (note: first debate is domestic policy only)
Romney uses Benjamin Netanyahu's nickname "Bibi": one sip, make "bibibibibibibibi" noise with finger and lips
Obama mentions Bin Laden: do a shooter, jump up, yell "BOOM! HEADSHOT!"
Romney says "apology tour": chug beer, boot on carpet, apologize to your host
Obama uses the term "Arab Spring": 1 sip
Romney uses the term "Arab Spring" without the words "Muslim Brotherhood" in the same sentence: 3 sips
Either candidate mentions China in a favorable light: 2 sips
Either candidate mentions China in an unfavorable light: ½ sip

Other:
Either candidate laughs out loud as the other candidate is answering a question: 2 sips
Either candidate smirks with a seriously smartass grin while the other candidate is answering a question: ½ sip
Either candidate mouths the word "no" during the other candidate's answer: 1 sip (limit of 5 per debate)
Moderator loses complete control of the debate: 1 sip
Either candidate completely ignores the question asked, goes to a memorized sound bite that they wanted to make sure they got on camera: 1 sip
Audience boos inappropriately: 1 sip
 
2012-09-27 03:11:34 PM  
I think it'll be a day where we just watch to see if... wait, no. WHEN Mitt contradicts himself in the same damned sentence.

It'll make Kerry look like one of the most solid and unflinching candidates ever.
 
2012-09-27 03:13:24 PM  

WI241TH:
The other day Romney said (jokingly), that after his mock debates with Portman he wanted to "kick him out of the room." Why he would joke about getting that frustrated with the guy pretending to be Obama beats me, but it makes me think that temper may not be in check just yet.


FTA...Ryan said Portman gave him a lucky Buckeye to help them in the crucial swing state.

Knows how lucky those Buckeyes are...

image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com

Wait..what?

blog.lehighvalleylive.com
 
2012-09-27 03:15:19 PM  

topcon: A picture of what people who actually watch debates looks like:

[cdn-www.cracked.com image 400x200] 

"When is Eisenhower coming on?"

"WHAT?"

"WHEN IS EISENHOWER COMING ONTO THE PROGRAM?"

"WHAT?"


I'm 30 and I've watched every Presidential debate since 1992. Go stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
2012-09-27 03:15:43 PM  
Romney will say something stupid, that will cause Obama to sigh.

Then it'll be all over in the spin cycle, just like Bush v Gore.

/I really hope that doesn't play in Paduka this time around.
//Still expect Ryan to open with "Can I call you Joe?" (as a tribute)
 
2012-09-27 03:15:53 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: While Barack Obama is a good public speaker, I don't think he's a great debater. I'd say him and Mitt Romney are about evenly matched in the debates.

Have you seen Mitt Romney debate?

Yes, and I've seen Obama debate. I'm not picking either in the first round of my forensics fantasy team.

It's as if you have never seen someone say "uh" in a speech before. I don't recall that being an issue when he handily beat McCain in 2008.

Romney, on the other hand, makes $10,000 bets and is prone to being angered. Obama will win easily. Even if he says "uh" a couple times.


Listening to Obama speaking extemporaneously it's pretty clear that he inserts downtime like "uh" because he forms cogent thoughts before running his mouth. If you talk to any intelligent person about a non-trivial subject they constantly do it, in large part not even consciously recognizing it, because forming and verbalizing useful thoughts is a process that rarely keeps up with speech. Since the alternative is an awkward silence, people insert placeholders as a "yes I'm still going" marker.
 
2012-09-27 03:18:12 PM  
A Fatality might be even more helpful.

/but not a Friendship; that would definitely turn off the base.
//and a Babality or an Animality would just be too weird to play in Peoria.
 
2012-09-27 03:19:41 PM  
Mitt's seemed a bit more grounded the last couple of times he's appeared in public. For a time last week he was looking so on edge that I would have given better than 50-50 that he was going to lose control sometime during the debate.

Now, I'm wondering if the more likely scenario is that we'll see a Romney so somnolent that he won't be engaging about anything. I'm thinking a Kitty Dukakis raped and murdered moment.

For those Farkers still in diapers in '88, Bernie Shaw, the Bush-Dukakis debate moderator, asked Dukakis if he would favor the death penalty for someone who raped and murdered his wife. Instead of a (fully-justified) emotional response, Dukakis gave a dispassionate explanation of his opposition to the death penalty.

It played really badly on TV, and may have been more damaging to the campaign than the "Dukakis in the tank" photo.
 
2012-09-27 03:20:58 PM  

Slives: The only way for Romney to get a flawless victory is for Obama to not show up at all. And even then it is not a sure thing.

Obama could just stand there mute and shake his head at every statement that Romney makes and has a chance of winning the debate.


I think he should say, "Well. I'm sure that's the position you hold now" to everything Romney says.
 
2012-09-27 03:21:05 PM  
I wish Obama had the balls to bring an empty chair with him to set up to Romney and ask if he'd like to debate him or practice more
 
2012-09-27 03:21:54 PM  

I_C_Weener: Besides, the polls don't lie.  No one even needs to vote.  Obama's got this in the bag people.  Why you so worried?


You sound concerned. And you should be. Nate Silver projects that if the election were held today, Obama would have a 97.8% chance of winning. The only states to have flipped have been Ohio and Florida, both to Obama. North Carolina is next. 332 Electrical Votes to Obama with Florida, 347 EVs with FL and NC.You should be more concerned with why the Sam Hill anyone should vote for Romney than suppressing the vote which will not save your sorry azz.
 
2012-09-27 03:23:12 PM  

Coco LaFemme: topcon: A picture of what people who actually watch debates looks like:

[cdn-www.cracked.com image 400x200] 

"When is Eisenhower coming on?"

"WHAT?"

"WHEN IS EISENHOWER COMING ONTO THE PROGRAM?"

"WHAT?"

I'm 30 and I've watched every Presidential debate since 1992. Go stick that in your pipe and smoke it.


Ugh, so dull. That and state of the union addresses. Who seriously gives a shiat? I'd sooner be subjected to A Clockwork Orange reconditioning than watch debates, speeches, or award shows. Antiquated concepts.
 
2012-09-27 03:24:41 PM  

JerseyTim: Voiceofreason01: So Mittens only hope is to beat one of the best speakers of our time in a debate? Not just beat but crush and humiliate.

While Barack Obama is a good public speaker, I don't think he's a great debater. I'd say him and Mitt Romney are about evenly matched in the debates.

Obama tends to be too, uh, clinical and, uh, pauses, uh, a little, uh, too often. Romney looks very uncomfortable when challenged and sometimes responds with too much smugness.

If they were giving dueling speeches, Obama would probably win comfortably.


They're about equal in debating abilities. What's going to matter is who sees them.

Romney supporters won't care if he has a complete three-year old grocery aisle meltdown and stomps off stage in a huff--they'll think he won going away. And while Obama supporters might listen more carefully to what their candidate says, they're not voting for a robot no matter how bad Obama screws up.

The rest of us are watching merely for teh lulz.
 
2012-09-27 03:25:52 PM  
 
2012-09-27 03:28:03 PM  
Amongst today's political big shots Obama stands out as a better than average speaker. Now, that's not saying a whole hell of a lot, but Romney sticks out as a noticibly bad speaker. Something of an achievement really. If the campaign really is hanging their hats on winning big in the debates, Romney should probably go ahead and get his resume ready.
 
2012-09-27 03:28:35 PM  

Citrate1007: I wish Obama had the balls to bring an empty chair with him to set up to Romney and ask if he'd like to debate him or practice more


Good idea, but I like this one better.

Drop various quotes from Eastwood movies. "Make my day, Mitt." "You gotta ask yourself just one question, Mitt" "This is not a joke, Mitt. It's a rope." "Were you gonna debate alone?"

And on and on.
 
2012-09-27 03:30:11 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: I'd love it if Obama just walked out on the stage, put an empty chair in front of the podium, told Mitt to have at it and left.


Genius!

/Welcome to my favorites list.
 
2012-09-27 03:30:35 PM  

Voiceofreason01: one of the best speakers of our time


But, he says 'Um' and 'Uh' a lot!! I read it on Brietbart!
 
2012-09-27 03:31:26 PM  

Weaver95: hubiestubert: It should be interesting at least...

I think at least some of us will be tuning in to see if Romney finally cracks under the pressure while on live TV....


I have never, in my 43 years, wanted to watch any debate before. This election, I plan on ordering in popcorn...
 
2012-09-27 03:31:56 PM  

bdub77: The problem Romney has is that Obama would have to shoot himself in the foot. He won't do that. He's been president for four years and hasn't made a catastrophic public speaking error. His gods and guns comment was maybe the worst thing he said and let's be honest, it's true. You didn't built that was completely taken out of context.

Obama fared well against a good debater in Hillary and also against McCain. Romney is not the worst on his feet but he comes off like a clown on stage regardless of whether or not he's right.


Obama's "Special Olympics" comment shortly after being elected. Maybe a half dozen lame comments in over 3 years. I honestly think Romney has surpassed his slips just this week and it is only Thursday.
 
2012-09-27 03:34:57 PM  
America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.
 
2012-09-27 03:35:20 PM  

dahmers love zombie:
Either candidate explicitly claims they want to completely get rid of any government program: 2 sips



Whelp,I'm going to need to go hijack a Yuengling truck before the debate.
 
2012-09-27 03:35:29 PM  

Bf+: Lost Thought 00: His best chance is to claim illness that prevents him from going to the debate. Send his wife in his place.

This would be his best move.
The man doesn't "speak", he "gaffes".
I predict another one of these:


Ok the fact that this election continues to be hilarious and not just kinda sad is proof that it's going well.
 
2012-09-27 03:36:39 PM  

evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


Alternate reality must be a horrible place to live.
 
2012-09-27 03:36:58 PM  

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Mitt's seemed a bit more grounded the last couple of times he's appeared in public. For a time last week he was looking so on edge that I would have given better than 50-50 that he was going to lose control sometime during the debate.

Now, I'm wondering if the more likely scenario is that we'll see a Romney so somnolent that he won't be engaging about anything. I'm thinking a Kitty Dukakis raped and murdered moment.

For those Farkers still in diapers in '88, Bernie Shaw, the Bush-Dukakis debate moderator, asked Dukakis if he would favor the death penalty for someone who raped and murdered his wife. Instead of a (fully-justified) emotional response, Dukakis gave a dispassionate explanation of his opposition to the death penalty.

It played really badly on TV, and may have been more damaging to the campaign than the "Dukakis in the tank" photo.


Definitely. I was watching that campaign closely at the time, and I honestly don't recall the tank incident being nearly so big a deal as conventional wisdom now holds. The rape question, however, was a HUGE blunder and almost certainly ended whatever slim hope Dukakis may have had left.
 
2012-09-27 03:37:41 PM  

evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


no, what's going to sink Romney is that he doesn't seem to have any plan. and what we've seen of his previous performances has been pretty bad. hell, he's running away from his one moderately successful accomplishment: Romneycare.
 
2012-09-27 03:39:21 PM  

evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


Right.

Ending two wars, an improving economy, employment back on the upswing, the housing market's bowels finally beginning to move....

ABYSMAL.
 
2012-09-27 03:39:26 PM  
... and, to finish my thought, I agree that Romney is susceptible to making a similar blunder.
 
2012-09-27 03:39:35 PM  

Nadie_AZ: And this sort of sh*t also worries me.

The media is going to hype a Romney come back. For their profit.



Pretty much.  I tend to believe the media is less in the can for a specific party/candidate but rather for a very close and ugly race.
 
2012-09-27 03:42:50 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Weaver95: Romney has to be under incredible levels of pressure. moreso than at any other time in his life. the sad thing is, even if a miracle occurs and Romney hits the ball outta the park at the first debate....he still only breaks even. he doesn't gain anything.

*sigh*

that said, given Romney's past history of flubs, gaffes and flat out lies (not to mention his anger management issues and generally deadpan delivery) I'd have to say the odds are against Romney doing well in a debate against Obama.

I was watching a documentary on Hunter Thompson recently and his coverage of the '72 election. He spread a false rumor about a Democratic candidate being hooked on some drug or other, all while the candidate he supported was actually using stimulants to get through the campaign. So we know, historically, that candidates will use coffee, alcohol, nicotine, and other drugs to last during such a grueling, stressful and demanding period of time. Romney uses none of these The human body does have limits. He is reaching those limits, I suspect.


I recommend raw ether.
 
2012-09-27 03:43:00 PM  

evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


Yes, if you hate America, his Presidency has been abysmal.

/Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and you wish it were the other way around.
 
2012-09-27 03:43:03 PM  

evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


Well bless your heart.
 
2012-09-27 03:45:48 PM  

Aarontology: Jackson Herring: Aarontology: Romney understands that he's probably going to have to stick with whatever he says, right?

It's not going to be like the lat few months where he says one thing, then says the exact opposite the next day. Or even 20 minutes later.

Hahaha that's so cute

I can dream, can't I?


you know full well that he'll go on fox news to "clarify" his position and the clarification could very well be 180 degrees from the original and no one will question it.
 
2012-09-27 03:46:57 PM  

MrBallou: Jubeebee: Do we have rules for the 2012 debate drinking game yet? I'm trying to plan ahead.

I need a set of rules for election night, too. I am throwing a party and we're watching it all on Fox.


Where should we send the coroner?
 
2012-09-27 03:47:35 PM  

dahmers love zombie: OK, here's what I've got so far. This is a work-in-progress, so everyone feel free to add on to it.

The 2012 Presidential Debate Drinking Game - Semi-Official Fark.com rules

General rules: Use your drink of choice, but be careful. Analysis of this game suggests that an alcoholic coma is likely.

Topic: The Economy
Obama uses either the word "millionaires" or "billionaires": 1 sip
Obama uses the words "millionaires" AND "billionaires" in the same sentence: 2 sips
Romney uses the word "failed": 1 sip
Romney invokes Bain Capital as a reason to elect him: 2 sips, fire your manservant
Either candidate uses the term "middle-class": ½ a sip
Obama says "let me be clear": 1 sip any clear liquor
Romney invokes The Reagan: 2 sips, promptly forget how many sips you took, take 2 more
Either candidate claims that their tax plan will lower the deficit: one sip, yell "YOU LIE"
Either candidate mentions Social Security: Geritol shooter
Romney provides a single tax loophole that he intends to do away with: 3 sips
Romney provides more than one tax loophole that he intends to do away with: chug
Obama uses the term "Ryan Budget": 1 sip

Topic: Domestic Policy
Romney claims credit for RomneyCare: 2 sips
Obama gives Romney effusive credit and compliments for creating RomneyCare: 1 sip, laugh until you pass out and have to be treated in the ER
Romney mentions RomneyCare, but says it's a bad choice for the entire country: 1 sip, stare at TV in the "confused dog" pose
Obama uses the word "abortion": wash down RU-486 with drink
Romney says that corporations are people: 2 sips
Romney talks about government waste within sixty seconds of criticizing Obama for cutting the defense budget: 2 sips
Obama talks about government waste within sixty seconds of criticizing Romney for wanting to cut...unspecified stuff: 2 sips
Either candidate explicitly claims they want to completely get rid of any government program: 2 sips
Romney mentions the $700,000,000,000 in Medicare cuts: take one sip, spit it ...


Fantastic. Welcome to my favorites.
 
2012-09-27 03:48:59 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: I'd love it if Obama just walked out on the stage, put an empty chair in front of the podium, told Mitt to have at it and left.


That would be awesome... Wouldn't win over any Romney voters because they're a little dense, but for pure comic value, it would be gold.
 
2012-09-27 03:49:44 PM  

evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


America is getting gayer, browner and less religious by the minute. Hang on as long as you can, it's going to get really bumpy.
 
2012-09-27 03:50:03 PM  

Bf+: Lost Thought 00

[desmond.imageshack.us image 214x640]


I lol'd so hard i made a mess at my desk. Thanks you for that.
 
2012-09-27 03:50:17 PM  

ghare: evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.

Yes, if you hate America, his Presidency has been abysmal.

/Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and you wish it were the other way around.


Quoth I.
 
2012-09-27 03:52:16 PM  
The debates are basically a press conference where there's a follow-up question. It's not hard to perform well. If Sarah Palin can do it, so can Romney.
 
2012-09-27 03:52:40 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: While Barack Obama is a good public speaker, I don't think he's a great debater. I'd say him and Mitt Romney are about evenly matched in the debates.

Have you seen Mitt Romney debate?

Yes, and I've seen Obama debate. I'm not picking either in the first round of my forensics fantasy team.

It's as if you have never seen someone say "uh" in a speech before. I don't recall that being an issue when he handily beat McCain in 2008.

Romney, on the other hand, makes $10,000 bets and is prone to being angered. Obama will win easily. Even if he says "uh" a couple times.


He was able to tamp down on it against McCain, but I agree with JerseyTim that Obama's not the best with debates. He's not terribly quick on his feet. Still, Mittens is terrible, and Obama will have time to prepare as he did with McCain.
 
2012-09-27 03:53:43 PM  
Romney may be playing the strategy of looking bad up until the debates and then kicking ass like nobody has ever seen before in the history of debating. Maybe.

/I won't rest easy until November 7
//Too much crap the GOP can pull at the polls
 
2012-09-27 03:53:53 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Either candidate mentions China in a favorable light: 2 sips
Either candidate mentions China in an unfavorable light: ½ sip


What if Romney does this in the same sentence?
 
2012-09-27 03:57:27 PM  

topcon: A picture of what people who actually watch debates looks like:

[cdn-www.cracked.com image 400x200] 

"When is Eisenhower coming on?"

"WHAT?"

"WHEN IS EISENHOWER COMING ONTO THE PROGRAM?"

"WHAT?"


I know you are a Republican and facts dont matter, but just in case someone reads your nonsense:


52.4 Million Watched McCain And Obama's First Debate | Nielsen Wire
 

But let me guess you think O Reilly's 2 million is HUGE
 
2012-09-27 03:57:31 PM  
media.giantbomb.com
 
2012-09-27 03:59:27 PM  

evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


Aw, at least you are still believing, your freeper brothers arent so sure.

Last Night I Cried
 
2012-09-27 03:59:29 PM  
 
2012-09-27 04:04:56 PM  

evoke: What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


Examples?
 
2012-09-27 04:05:29 PM  
I'm pretty sure that Fox news already has the headlines ready for the evening of the debate..."R'Money wins debate in a landslide!"
 
2012-09-27 04:07:19 PM  

Mikey1969: evoke: What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.

Examples?


9/11.
 
2012-09-27 04:10:55 PM  
TFA says that "a break-even or so-so performance would subject Romney to a self-reinforcing cycle of criticism and pessimism in his own party", but it's pretty obvious he's already in that cycle and he'll need a strong performance to get out of it. But if Obama's lead widens further like it did after the debates with McCain, you can stick a fork in the Romney campaign.
 
2012-09-27 04:11:19 PM  
Sept. 26: Could 2012 Be Like 2008?
By NATE SILVER

There's no point in putting it gently: Mitt Romney had one of his worst polling days of the year on Wednesday.

Mittens better wear two pairs of magical skivvies.
 
2012-09-27 04:14:01 PM  
I know a lot of people are saying its in the bag, but it's not over until its over. 40 days is a lifetime in American politics. Anything can still happen.
 
2012-09-27 04:15:02 PM  

NateGrey: evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.

Aw, at least you are still believing, your freeper brothers arent so sure.

Last Night I Cried


I just don't know what to say. I love this gem:

You want to cry? Cry in a private message. Too many people here are already too darn wobbly to have a textual breakdown show up, it causes other nervous-Nellies to lose focus, and just gives spies from the other side encouragement to ramp up the BS further.

So sorry if it seems "mean".


/LOL reading stuff on internet blogs is spying
 
2012-09-27 04:15:29 PM  
If voters still have a problem discerning the differences between the two candidates, then fark it. We're doomed.
 
2012-09-27 04:19:00 PM  

ghare: /Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and you wish it were the other way around.


you forgot to mention the dead ambassador and the other 3 americans.
 
2012-09-27 04:20:38 PM  

Somacandra: I know a lot of people are saying its in the bag, but it's not over until its over. 40 days is a lifetime in American politics. Anything can still happen.


I wouldn't say it is a lifetime. A lifetime implies a period long enough to forget things or things you remember to fade or become less tangible. Obama has been President 1,300 days and most Americans remember what party caused the economic collapse.

I'm pretty sure that with a campaign budget of $500M, Obama's going to make sure people don't forget what Romney's said, in the past month, before election day.
 
2012-09-27 04:26:47 PM  

colon_pow: you forgot to mention the dead ambassador


I guarantee that if "Death by Smoke Inhalation" was on the ticket, I would vote against it, regardless of what party banner it ran under.
 
2012-09-27 04:28:17 PM  

colon_pow: ghare: /Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and you wish it were the other way around.

you forgot to mention the dead ambassador and the other 3 americans.


You mean the ones that Romney was smiling about when he heard the news?

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-27 04:32:03 PM  

colon_pow: ghare: /Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and you wish it were the other way around.

you forgot to mention the dead ambassador and the other 3 americans.


And you, like Romney, were overjoyed that they died, so you could have something to blame Obama for. You should be ashamed. At last, sir, have you no decency?
 
2012-09-27 04:32:04 PM  

I_C_Weener: I love quoting those lines though.  I re-watched it recently.  That is really a bad movie.  No idea why I have such fond memories of it.


Here's why I have fond memories of it...
thelostclassics.com
 
2012-09-27 04:33:12 PM  

Somacandra: I know a lot of people are saying its in the bag, but it's not over until its over. 40 days is a lifetime in American politics. Anything can still happen.


I really doubt Obama will be found in bed with a live boy or dead girl in the next 40 days.
 
2012-09-27 04:33:33 PM  
i look forwards to my hospitalization from alcohol poisoning.
i am throwing an epic party, shame none of my friends give a flying fark about politics.
so by epic i mean me and a bottle are gonna GET DOWN.
bottles are people too my friend.
 
2012-09-27 04:34:21 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Mitt hasn't said anything of substance about his platform. Nothing. He could go into the debates and counter Obama's charges of this by actually spelling out his plans. This could catch Obama off guard enough for him to win the debate.

Why yes, I am paranoid. I'm a Bills fan. I've seen 4 Super Bowl losses in a row. Seeing victory snatched away at the last second is almost in my DNA.

I am glad others are more optimistic.


And if he does that, he either permanently alienates all moderates and loses the election, OR he alienates all wingnuts and they stay home. It's the same problem that Fareed Zakaria pointed out in his article that was posted on Fark today. Romney HAS to stay vague because the wingnuts are so idealistically far away from the center. No matter which side he comes down on, he loses.

So, even if it did put Obama off-balance, it would all but ensure a Romney defeat. We'll see. I personally think that he'll continue to stay vague even as his campaign nosedives into the ground. The second most likely possibility is that Romney goes back to primary-level MAXIMUM DERP to whip up the base----but loses every moderate in the country, and causes a lot of sane Republicans to stay home.
 
2012-09-27 04:34:35 PM  

ghare: colon_pow: ghare: /Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and you wish it were the other way around.

you forgot to mention the dead ambassador and the other 3 americans.

And you, like Romney, were overjoyed that they died, so you could have something to blame Obama for. You should be ashamed. At last, sir, have you no decency?


I grieve for them and lament the fact that they had insufficient security.
 
2012-09-27 04:35:07 PM  
You know the rest of the GOP is about ready to do this. What a waste of a candidate.
 
2012-09-27 04:35:42 PM  

colon_pow: ghare: /Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and you wish it were the other way around.

you forgot to mention the dead ambassador and the other 3 americans.


Pales against how many Bush killed.
 
2012-09-27 04:35:50 PM  
This I mean:

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-09-27 04:37:02 PM  

colon_pow: ghare: colon_pow: ghare: /Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and you wish it were the other way around.

you forgot to mention the dead ambassador and the other 3 americans.

And you, like Romney, were overjoyed that they died, so you could have something to blame Obama for. You should be ashamed. At last, sir, have you no decency?

I grieve for them and lament the fact that they had insufficient security.


Don't lie, you had a Romney smirk. You can admit it, you are amongst friends.
 
2012-09-27 04:37:12 PM  

colon_pow: ghare: colon_pow: ghare: /Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and you wish it were the other way around.

you forgot to mention the dead ambassador and the other 3 americans.

And you, like Romney, were overjoyed that they died, so you could have something to blame Obama for. You should be ashamed. At last, sir, have you no decency?

I grieve for them and lament the fact that they had insufficient security.


No you don't. You were overjoyed, just like Romney, and you continue to prove it with every post.
 
2012-09-27 04:38:37 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: ... and causes a lot of sane Republicans to stay home.


I haven't seen one of those in ages.
 
2012-09-27 04:40:31 PM  

LoneWolf343: colon_pow: ghare: /Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, and you wish it were the other way around.

you forgot to mention the dead ambassador and the other 3 americans.

Pales against how many Bush killed.


Whelp.
 
2012-09-27 04:42:24 PM  

Bill Frist: This I mean:

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x629]


Et tu, Gilligan? Then fall The Stench.
 
2012-09-27 04:55:04 PM  

ghare: HMS_Blinkin: ... and causes a lot of sane Republicans to stay home.

I haven't seen one of those in ages.


It's because they stay home.
 
2012-09-27 04:56:35 PM  

Gyrfalcon: ghare: HMS_Blinkin: ... and causes a lot of sane Republicans to stay home.

I haven't seen one of those in ages.

It's because they stay home.


I thought they had all just died. Maybe they're mummified in their recliners?
 
2012-09-27 04:56:58 PM  
The chances of Romney winning the debates are very small. In fact, I currently think there's about a 30% chance that Romney completely loses it and says something like what Santorum did when he referred to Obama as a "Nig..." during a campaign speech.
 
2012-09-27 04:57:30 PM  
First question should take the starch outta Romney: "So, Gov Romney, 'vouchercare'? " and that should purrrty much do him in.
 
2012-09-27 04:57:34 PM  
my prediction:

static.desktopnexus.com
 
Bf+
2012-09-27 04:57:53 PM  

trickymoo: Bf+: Lost Thought 00

[desmond.imageshack.us image 214x640]

I lol'd so hard i made a mess at my desk. Thanks you for that.


Many welcomes!
 
2012-09-27 05:03:35 PM  

Geotpf: The chances of Romney winning the debates are very small. In fact, I currently think there's about a 30% chance that Romney completely loses it and says something like what Santorum did when he referred to Obama as a "Nig..." during a campaign speech.


Winning or losing is really subjective anyway, to be a clear winner it has to be Kennedy/Nixon type of thing, and Obama doesn't have that kinda fail in him, mitt on the other hand... If mitt needs this, he is already dead.
 
2012-09-27 05:09:09 PM  
Out of curiosity, is there anywhere to watch the debates live online? I stream all of my TV watching, so I can't watch the regular spots.
 
2012-09-27 05:12:47 PM  

CanuckInCA: Out of curiosity, is there anywhere to watch the debates live online? I stream all of my TV watching, so I can't watch the regular spots.


I've had pretty good luck with this place http://worldtvsite.net/  just, you know, wear an internet condom.
 
2012-09-27 05:14:55 PM  

CanuckInCA: Out of curiosity, is there anywhere to watch the debates live online? I stream all of my TV watching, so I can't watch the regular spots.


I'll bet that CSPAN.org, at a minimum, will stream it.
 
2012-09-27 05:15:06 PM  

youmightberight: Hmm so politico says its "do or die" for Rmoney.... cbs "If you believe the polls it's now or never".

How bout the polls are shiat.


Well, that's one theory. Another is that they're not, and in mid-September onwards they are pretty good indicators of which candidate people are leaning towards.

But I like your theory. It makes things more exciting.
 
2012-09-27 05:15:42 PM  
Will prancing be involved?
 
2012-09-27 05:16:27 PM  

CanuckInCA: Out of curiosity, is there anywhere to watch the debates live online? I stream all of my TV watching, so I can't watch the regular spots.


I'm sure the cable news sites will stream them; they did with the primary debates.

Does C-SPAN usually stream these things? They might be a good option too.
 
2012-09-27 05:17:33 PM  

HeartBurnKid: CanuckInCA: Out of curiosity, is there anywhere to watch the debates live online? I stream all of my TV watching, so I can't watch the regular spots.

I'm sure the cable news sites will stream them; they did with the primary debates.

Does C-SPAN usually stream these things? They might be a good option too.


In fact, live.cnn.com is explicitly listing the debate on their schedule. So there you go. No skeevy pirate streaming site required.
 
2012-09-27 05:18:41 PM  

CanuckInCA: Out of curiosity, is there anywhere to watch the debates live online? I stream all of my TV watching, so I can't watch the regular spots.


The debates are a pretty big deal. CNN, NPR, MSNBC, C-SPAN, FNC and I'm sure others will carry the debates on their live feed.
 
2012-09-27 05:20:44 PM  
evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


NateGrey: Aw, at least you are still believing, your freeper brothers arent so sure.

Last Night I Cried


That thread is hysterical, them consoling each other with unskewedpolls.com and Rush. Get your info there and you'll understand that Romney is winning. Don't listen to actual news or any poll that says Obama is leading. Oh, and Obama making campaign appearances in swing states means that he's actually behind in those states.

But this little gem is my favorite:

"I have decided that if zer0 wins, I am going to only buy replacement stores on sale and nothing else. If something breaks, we fix it or find another older appliance to rehab. Same w/the vehicles. If we all just live on our stores and only replenish those from sales, while growing greens and whatever else thru the winter, we can affect the economy. It will be like 2008, with less capital. Luckily, we have a warmer than average forecast for the next 3 months and propane has declined in price."

The Freepers won't buy anything while Obama is President and this will destroy the economy and somehow that will be a victory? The home of the glittering eagle and flag loves American so much that destroying the economy is a desirable goal?
 
2012-09-27 05:23:46 PM  
How will Mitt Romney hide the fact that he believes Obama (President of the United States) does not deserve to be on the same stage, no less mentioned in the same breath, as Mitt Romney (Master of the Universe!). The contempt, it burns. How will he hide it?
 
2012-09-27 05:27:28 PM  

Phins: But this little gem is my favorite:

"I have decided that if zer0 wins, I am going to only buy replacement stores on sale and nothing else. If something breaks, we fix it or find another older appliance to rehab. Same w/the vehicles. If we all just live on our stores and only replenish those from sales, while growing greens and whatever else thru the winter, we can affect the economy. It will be like 2008, with less capital. Luckily, we have a warmer than average forecast for the next 3 months and propane has declined in price."

The Freepers won't buy anything while Obama is President and this will destroy the economy and somehow that will be a victory? The home of the glittering eagle and flag loves American so much that destroying the economy is a desirable goal?


See? SEE? Our quality of life has declined! Damn you, 0'Nazi!!!
 
2012-09-27 05:28:40 PM  

evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


i.qkme.me
 
2012-09-27 05:35:43 PM  

MrBallou: Jubeebee: Do we have rules for the 2012 debate drinking game yet? I'm trying to plan ahead.

I need a set of rules for election night, too. I am throwing a party and we're watching it all on Fox.


Oh my god.
 
2012-09-27 05:39:18 PM  

thornhill: The debates are basically a press conference where there's a follow-up question. It's not hard to perform well. If Sarah Palin can do it, so can Romney.


Now that's the rub isn't it?
 
2012-09-27 05:46:53 PM  
Flawless victory, impossible without Gary Johnson and Jill Stein in the debates, "waste your vote," America
 
2012-09-27 05:54:38 PM  

evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


You sound pretty sure of yourself. What kind of odds are you giving?
 
2012-09-27 06:06:16 PM  
If Oabama "wins" the debates, it'll be pretty clear that he's spent a lot more time preparing and training on "looking good for the television" peeps instead of doing what he was hired to do; fixing the things he ruined.when he was illegally elected.

But avoiding doing work while looking good on TV is pretty much his enti schicht, so It's too be expected, I suppose.
 
2012-09-27 06:10:35 PM  
Obama is the most divisive president in American history. The conservative base will come out in force in November because what's at stake. Obama's supporters have been let down by his empty promises and will stay home. That's what it's going to come down to. There is no doubt in my mind that Romney will win. The American people need someone like Romney who knows how to get things done and how to create real jobs. The only thing Obama has created during his four years as president is a staggering amount of debt.

All Romney has to do during the debates is tell the truth about Obama. The truth will speak for itself. Nothing more is needed.
 
2012-09-27 06:13:36 PM  

evoke: Obama is the most divisive president in American history.


The sad thing is the only thing divisive about him is his skin color. His entire presidency has been a sort of center-right populismish mishmash of relatively inoffensive things, most of which would be cheered by republicans if he was a white guy with an (R) after his name.
 
2012-09-27 06:18:25 PM  

evoke: Obama is the most divisive president in American history. The conservative base will come out in force in November because what's at stake. Obama's supporters have been let down by his empty promises and will stay home. That's what it's going to come down to. There is no doubt in my mind that Romney will win. The American people need someone like Romney who knows how to get things done and how to create real jobs. The only thing Obama has created during his four years as president is a staggering amount of debt.

All Romney has to do during the debates is tell the truth about Obama. The truth will speak for itself. Nothing more is needed.


And what is the truth, Governor Pilate?
 
2012-09-27 06:19:41 PM  

gilgigamesh: If his campaign wasn't on fire at the moment, I would beg to differ with you simply because Romney's weak spot of being easily angered would be recognized and coached out of him by a competent debate prep team.


Romney said Portman is doing such a good job as Obama's debate stand-in that when they're done he wants to throw him out of the room...

Um, dude, if Rob Portman rattles your cage, you are NOT prepared to go toe-to-toe with Obama.
 
2012-09-27 06:22:06 PM  

evoke: Obama is the most divisive president in American history. The conservative base will come out in force in November because what's at stake. Obama's supporters have been let down by his empty promises and will stay home. That's what it's going to come down to. There is no doubt in my mind that Romney will win. The American people need someone like Romney who knows how to get things done and how to create real jobs. The only thing Obama has created during his four years as president is a staggering amount of debt.

All Romney has to do during the debates is tell the truth about Obama. The truth will speak for itself. Nothing more is needed.


Trolling used to mean something around here. This is just weak at every level.

Seriously, you need to try again.
 
2012-09-27 06:26:42 PM  

brianbankerus: evoke: Obama is the most divisive president in American history. The conservative base will come out in force in November because what's at stake. Obama's supporters have been let down by his empty promises and will stay home. That's what it's going to come down to. There is no doubt in my mind that Romney will win. The American people need someone like Romney who knows how to get things done and how to create real jobs. The only thing Obama has created during his four years as president is a staggering amount of debt.

All Romney has to do during the debates is tell the truth about Obama. The truth will speak for itself. Nothing more is needed.

Trolling used to mean something around here. This is just weak at every level.

Seriously, you need to try again.


Fark.com where a Romney supporter is instantly called a troll for not being an Obamabot like the rest of its userbase.
 
2012-09-27 06:29:30 PM  

evoke: Fark.com where a Romney supporter is instantly called a troll for not being an Obamabot like the rest of its userbase.


I guess we just figure if you're going to come into Fark and not Free Republic or Breitbart, you probably realize that the conservative narrative is mostly fictional. Especially when you bring stuff that's been debunked many times over.
 
2012-09-27 06:41:06 PM  

evoke: America is a conservative nation. The base will come out in November, no doubt about it. No polls can change that fact. Four more years of obama just isn't going to happen. The country cannot afford it.

In the end gaffes won't matter. What will matter is Obama's record as president which has been abysmal.


Megadittos, Honeybunch. Megadittos.
 
2012-09-27 06:49:49 PM  
Has anyone seen a debate Bingo card? I'll be watching with my dad and stepmom. Wile we can certainly have cocktails, they will not want to play a drinking game.
 
2012-09-27 06:51:47 PM  

Mercutio74: evoke: Fark.com where a Romney supporter is instantly called a troll for not being an Obamabot like the rest of its userbase.

I guess we just figure if you're going to come into Fark and not Free Republic or Breitbart, you probably realize that the conservative narrative is mostly fictional. Especially when you bring stuff that's been debunked many times over.


What fictional narrative? The national debt has skyrocketed under Obama. That's a fact. When Romney was Governor of Massachusetts he created a lot of jobs. That's a fact. Regardless of what you think of Obama you cannot deny that the country is more divided than ever. All I am saying is that Romney and his advisers should focus on Obama's actual record during the debates. Keep it factual. Because the facts don't lie.

A lot of libs are let down by the fact that Obama has failed to deliver on his message of Change™ from 08.

I recall Obama's speech about the idea of red and blue America and how it was a false dichotomy. Obama aspired to be a president of unity. I wonder if he recognizes the irony that he has become the most polarizing president ever.
 
2012-09-27 06:52:59 PM  

evoke: Obama is the most divisive president in American history. The conservative base will come out in force in November because what's at stake. Obama's supporters have been let down by his empty promises and will stay home. That's what it's going to come down to. There is no doubt in my mind that Romney will win. The American people need someone like Romney who knows how to get things done and how to create real jobs. The only thing Obama has created during his four years as president is a staggering amount of debt.

All Romney has to do during the debates is tell the truth
about Obama. The truth will speak for itself. Nothing more is needed.


Romney? Ryan? Republicans in 2012? Tell the truth??? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

/Tell the truth about what? That Obama is BLACK?
 
2012-09-27 06:56:56 PM  

evoke: brianbankerus: evoke: Obama is the most divisive president in American history. The conservative base will come out in force in November because what's at stake. Obama's supporters have been let down by his empty promises and will stay home. That's what it's going to come down to. There is no doubt in my mind that Romney will win. The American people need someone like Romney who knows how to get things done and how to create real jobs. The only thing Obama has created during his four years as president is a staggering amount of debt.

All Romney has to do during the debates is tell the truth about Obama. The truth will speak for itself. Nothing more is needed.

Trolling used to mean something around here. This is just weak at every level.

Seriously, you need to try again.

Fark.com where a Romney supporter is instantly called a troll for not being an Obamabot like the rest of its userbase.



Were you instantly called a troll? Or did you start crying instantly the first time someone called you a troll? I for one think it much uglier that I called you a dittohead a bit further up.
 
2012-09-27 07:00:02 PM  

evoke: brianbankerus: evoke: Obama is the most divisive president in American history. The conservative base will come out in force in November because what's at stake. Obama's supporters have been let down by his empty promises and will stay home. That's what it's going to come down to. There is no doubt in my mind that Romney will win. The American people need someone like Romney who knows how to get things done and how to create real jobs. The only thing Obama has created during his four years as president is a staggering amount of debt.

All Romney has to do during the debates is tell the truth about Obama. The truth will speak for itself. Nothing more is needed.

Trolling used to mean something around here. This is just weak at every level.

Seriously, you need to try again.

Fark.com where a Romney supporter is instantly called a troll for not being an Obamabot like the rest of its userbase.


You can't be that obtuse. "The truth will speak for itself"??? From the lyin'est liar that ever lied? That's troll territory.

I refuse to believe that you're r-tarded. It's a much higher compliment to be a weak troll than a strong conservative.
 
2012-09-27 07:07:13 PM  

evoke: I recall Obama's speech about the idea of red and blue America and how it was a false dichotomy. Obama aspired to be a president of unity. I wonder if he recognizes the irony that he has become the most polarizing president ever.


He has become the most polarizing president in history for two reasons: he is a Democrat and he's brown. That was all it took for almost half the country to go apeshiat.

There are no other reasons that a personable, center-right populist - who has reached across the aisle again and again only to be rebuffed - could be the most polarizing president everTM. It's debunked bullshiat and that's why people are calling you out.
 
2012-09-27 07:07:18 PM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: At this point I feel like if and only if Romney accidentally lights his podium on fire does the President have a fighting chance


Can I buy pot from you?
 
2012-09-27 07:16:04 PM  

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: evoke: I recall Obama's speech about the idea of red and blue America and how it was a false dichotomy. Obama aspired to be a president of unity. I wonder if he recognizes the irony that he has become the most polarizing president ever.

He has become the most polarizing president in history for two reasons: he is a Democrat and he's brown. That was all it took for almost half the country to go apeshiat.

There are no other reasons that a personable, center-right populist - who has reached across the aisle again and again only to be rebuffed - could be the most polarizing president everTM. It's debunked bullshiat and that's why people are calling you out.


some people are a little upset with his drones and kill list. it's like he's got his own video game but kills real people on the other side of the world. i'm sure some people would still have a problem with that even if his color was gold.
 
2012-09-27 07:21:08 PM  

colon_pow: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: evoke: I recall Obama's speech about the idea of red and blue America and how it was a false dichotomy. Obama aspired to be a president of unity. I wonder if he recognizes the irony that he has become the most polarizing president ever.

He has become the most polarizing president in history for two reasons: he is a Democrat and he's brown. That was all it took for almost half the country to go apeshiat.

There are no other reasons that a personable, center-right populist - who has reached across the aisle again and again only to be rebuffed - could be the most polarizing president everTM. It's debunked bullshiat and that's why people are calling you out.

some people are a little upset with his drones and kill list. it's like he's got his own video game but kills real people on the other side of the world. i'm sure some people would still have a problem with that even if his color was gold.


I'm not particularly thrilled with the drones and kill list, either. You cons loved the GWOT until Obama took it over, pissed because he's more successful than your guy?

Seriously, though, the most divisive president in history? More than Bush II? More than Nixon? More than Lincoln? It's ridiculous hyperbole.
 
2012-09-27 07:32:54 PM  
I can think of only one way that RMoney could possibly win, but we do not speak of such things in public. Be safe, Obama! PLEASE!
 
2012-09-27 07:44:21 PM  

meat0918: MrBallou: Jubeebee: Do we have rules for the 2012 debate drinking game yet? I'm trying to plan ahead.

I need a set of rules for election night, too. I am throwing a party and we're watching it all on Fox.

Where should we send the coroner?


Tell them I died happy, from an overdose of Neocon tears.
media.giantbomb.com 

Can't wait to watch the FoxNews talking heads asploding.
 
2012-09-27 08:16:03 PM  

Voiceofreason01: So Mittens only hope is to beat one of the best speakers of our time in a debate? Not just beat but crush and humiliate.

/OK snowball, you can do this. You can make it through Hell and come out the other side. All you have to do is not melt. Good luck and God speed.
//Romney is DOOOOoooooooomed


If this were a real debate, you'd be right. It isn't though. The speakers usually agree on the questions before the debate. There's lots of prep. Romney can afford to hire the best debate prep teams out there - as he did before Florida - and it totally worked for him. There won't really be any chance for him to get ruffled, and the expectations are so low that, if he doesn't burst into tears with giant snot bubbles flaring from his nostrils, it will be considered a flawless performance.

I'm rooting for tears and snot bubbles. Maybe he'll rust his way out of the race.
 
2012-09-27 08:49:46 PM  

Voiceofreason01: So Mittens only hope is to beat one of the best speakers of our time in a debate?


live.drjays.com
 
2012-09-27 11:34:28 PM  
All Obama is going to need to do is get Romney off-script once, and it will go downhill from there.

I cannot wait. This debate is going to be beautiful, in a "can't turn away from a trainwreck" sort of way.
 
2012-09-27 11:42:47 PM  

gilgigamesh: cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: cameroncrazy1984: JerseyTim: While Barack Obama is a good public speaker, I don't think he's a great debater. I'd say him and Mitt Romney are about evenly matched in the debates.

Have you seen Mitt Romney debate?

Yes, and I've seen Obama debate. I'm not picking either in the first round of my forensics fantasy team.

It's as if you have never seen someone say "uh" in a speech before. I don't recall that being an issue when he handily beat McCain in 2008.

Romney, on the other hand, makes $10,000 bets and is prone to being angered. Obama will win easily. Even if he says "uh" a couple times.

If his campaign wasn't on fire at the moment, I would beg to differ with you simply because Romney's weak spot of being easily angered would be recognized and coached out of him by a competent debate prep team.

But seeing as his campaign staff is probably too busy contemplating mass suicide, you are probably right.


His campaign staff are getting 200k month bonuses, dude. Think about that. Think about the work done in August and tell me you'd expect a bonus after that.
 
2012-09-28 12:09:37 AM  

TalenLee: His campaign staff are getting 200k month bonuses, dude. Think about that. Think about the work done in August and tell me you'd expect a bonus after that.


So his campaign staff are all CEO's?
 
2012-09-28 12:33:17 AM  

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: So his campaign staff are all CEO's?


Well, how else are you going to attract the best talent to a campaign?
 
2012-09-28 07:36:59 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Romney invokes Bain Capital as a reason to elect him: 2 sips, fire your manservant


If I fire my manservant that many times in a night, I won't be worth a damn the next day.
 
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