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2012-09-27 10:06:57 AM
A bunch of whining nobody gives a shiat about. 2 1/2 years ain't shiat... just move on, buttercup. They'll be just fine without you.
 
2012-09-27 10:24:51 AM
www.bbc.co.uk
 
2012-09-27 10:30:30 AM
FTFA: Openly claimed to be proud "not to have a drop of Jewish blood in him"

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-27 10:34:19 AM
Whiner.
 
2012-09-27 10:36:49 AM
Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to plead ignorance on this thing, because if I had known that sort of thing was frowned upon...
 
2012-09-27 10:44:30 AM
img513.imageshack.us

could you say no?
 
2012-09-27 10:51:13 AM
Man, that [REDACTED] sure gets around, doesn't he?
 
2012-09-27 10:56:55 AM
2 1/2 years is not "loyal service", especially after you put in notice 18 months after you started. Oh, and your biggest mistake:

October 2011
I decide to hand in my notice and join another agency in order to further my development. [REDACTED] while initially cold to my departure rapidly changed tone and started to court me in order to stay.

NEVER take a counter-offer. You've only proven that you're NOT a loyal employee--your only motivation is money. Take a counter-offer and the company will make your life a living hell.

/Former recruiter
//Seen it happen waaaaay too often
 
2012-09-27 11:17:39 AM
Yeah this guy doesn't just burn bridges he takes the ashes and puts them in a vat filled with sulfuric acid.
 
2012-09-27 11:34:12 AM

brigid_fitch: 2 1/2 years is not "loyal service", especially after you put in notice 18 months after you started. Oh, and your biggest mistake:

October 2011
I decide to hand in my notice and join another agency in order to further my development. [REDACTED] while initially cold to my departure rapidly changed tone and started to court me in order to stay.

NEVER take a counter-offer. You've only proven that you're NOT a loyal employee--your only motivation is money. Take a counter-offer and the company will make your life a living hell.

/Former recruiter
//Seen it happen waaaaay too often


I have no idea why anyone would want to stay. Rarely is money the only reason someone starts looking. Those factors are not going to change.

As an employer it's a well known fact that I don't counter. This does one important thing for me, employees know not to bluff me. If they want to go somewhere else we have a hardy hand shake I thank them for their help and we can end as close to friends as we can. None of this "but dont you like me enough to see if I'll stay". Which I've never understood, I'm not the one who went out and hired someone else and told you to take a pay cut or you're gone.
I understand it's much better to look for a job while you have one. And I'm not stupid enough to believe that someone will quit and then start looking for a job. I bet I could list off about 5 employees that are using company time to look for jobs. But I'm ok with that. Most of the time they are smart enough to know they have a good thing over here. And if they arn't, well I dont need them
 
2012-09-27 11:49:30 AM

doublesecretprobation: Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to plead ignorance on this thing, because if I had known that sort of thing was frowned upon...


Was what I came here to say, but it would have been more funny with a pic as well.
 
2012-09-27 11:56:39 AM
Unless you're dealing with literal life and death issues at your job, having a mental breakdown a couple months in to your new promotion just makes me laugh at you.
 
2012-09-27 12:41:30 PM

stpauler: Unless you're dealing with literal life and death issues at your job, having a mental breakdown a couple months in to your new promotion just makes me laugh at you.


Actually, that was the situation at my current job. I was hired to replace a guy who was promoted and had a near-nervous breakdown because he couldn't handle the stress of the new position. He lasted about 3 months, too. Company hired the guy right out of school to be an account manager (mostly customer service duties) and promoted him to sales manager a year later. Guy couldn't handle his team's issues and talking to customers face-to-face freaked him out. He finally cracked right before he walked into a customer's office for a meeting. Out for a week due to stress.

Single, lives at home, parents pay ALL of his bills, and he has a nervous breakdown at the thought of talking to a buyer. Yeah, I laughed at him, too.
 
2012-09-27 12:44:19 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img513.imageshack.us image 426x640]

could you say no?


I have been remiss in favoriting you. Not that we should encourage this sort of posting (we should).
 
2012-09-27 12:44:52 PM
I can see Don Draper crying.
 
2012-09-27 01:29:24 PM
static.tvfanatic.com
/approves
//of the boss
 
2012-09-27 01:29:28 PM

ThatGuyGreg: 2 1/2 years ain't shiat


brigid_fitch: 2 1/2 years is not "loyal service", especially after you put in notice 18 months after you started.


These.

It sounds like her manager was indeed an ass, but she has some kind of inflated opinion of herself. She had to take medical leave due to "work stress" and thinks 2.5 years is some kind of record... sounds like some special little snowflake started to melt in the heat. If the longest you've ever held a job was two and a half years (ignoring the giving notice once before) you aren't much of a worker... you're a job hopper and one who can only really be counted on to bail the moment the going gets tough and you're finally trained well enough to be useful. The moment they start expecting much out of her, off she goes.

If her manager was that bad, she should have reported him to HR for creating a hostile work environment, not sent her "I QUIT" letter to everybody in the company. I get the feeling most of her coworkers just thought "Good riddance" when they checked their inboxes.
 
2012-09-27 01:29:37 PM
Don't you just love crappy websites running about 15 different scripts which can't display their text?
 
2012-09-27 01:29:38 PM
Sex on the desk? That's got to be awkward if your boss works in a cubicle.
 
2012-09-27 01:29:59 PM
after 2 1/2 yrs. of loyal service to the company.

Joined MEC in May 2010.

October 2011
I decide to hand in my notice and join another agency


Ummmm. Also, Kieran is a dude.
 
2012-09-27 01:31:55 PM
Companies usually promotes people to the point of inefficient. This person probably would have been perfectly content to shuffle papers all her life instead of being promoted beyond her capabilities . Companies, take note, not everyone wants to climb the corporate ladder, not everyone wants to leave their comfort zone.
 
2012-09-27 01:33:21 PM

stpauler: Unless you're dealing with literal life and death issues at your job, having a mental breakdown a couple months in to your new promotion just makes me laugh at you.


Well, from the sounds of the letter it seems like the breakdown wasn't because of the new position, but because in addition to the new position he was required to take over the workload of two other people that left the company. So really, he had a breakdown because he was expected to do the work of three people, which I find to be far more understandable.
 
2012-09-27 01:33:33 PM
BTW, not to open a can-of-worms here, but am I the only one who assumed this was a woman? I feel kind of sexist for equivocating whiner with woman.

Meh, I'll get over it.
 
2012-09-27 01:47:52 PM
Sounds exactly like the ad agency I worked for, even the sex in the offices part. Those places are hell. No need to whine about it.
 
2012-09-27 02:00:57 PM
Was that wrong? Should he not have done that?
 
2012-09-27 02:10:11 PM
Green sweater girl?
 
2012-09-27 02:14:25 PM
I did this once... one of the best decisions of my life.

I got escorted out of the building by the VP for going public with my resignation after emailing it to everyone with a laundry list of crap he'd done. He kept calm and professional as it happened, but his eyes looked like fire was going to shoot out of them and burn me to a crisp.

The majority of employees didn't know how much crap our team had gone through, with one actually asking me what happened to the temp half of the staff that got laid off without notice about two weeks before the Xmas holiday. Meanwhile, the other half was told there would be no promotions for anyone based on complaints from someone who jumped ship shortly after getting promoted and using his new job title to apply to other companies. Owners were oblivious to any problems between the VP and the staff up until that point, it was a mess. None of it changed until someone blew the whistle, and with so many people branding the "whiner" badge out of instinct... it's no wonder work environments get as bad as they do.
 
2012-09-27 02:18:17 PM

Rapmaster2000: BTW, not to open a can-of-worms here, but am I the only one who assumed this was a woman? I feel kind of sexist for equivocating whiner with woman.

Meh, I'll get over it.


Yeah, women are more apt to do it this way.
 
2012-09-27 02:18:33 PM

brigid_fitch: 2 1/2 years is not "loyal service", especially after you put in notice 18 months after you started. Oh, and your biggest mistake:

October 2011
I decide to hand in my notice and join another agency in order to further my development. [REDACTED] while initially cold to my departure rapidly changed tone and started to court me in order to stay.

NEVER take a counter-offer. You've only proven that you're NOT a loyal employee--your only motivation is money. Take a counter-offer and the company will make your life a living hell.

/Former recruiter
//Seen it happen waaaaay too often


I make it crystal clear that my motivation is money. If I have led any employer to believe otherwise, I am sorry.
 
2012-09-27 02:19:05 PM

Rapmaster2000: BTW, not to open a can-of-worms here, but am I the only one who assumed this was a woman? I feel kind of sexist for equivocating whiner with woman.

Meh, I'll get over it.


I did too.

I think it was the word "juicy" in the headline, along with the gossipy "he had sex on the desk" part.

I guess we should have assumed subby was a woman.
 
2012-09-27 02:30:19 PM
www.comedy.co.uk

Approves.
 
2012-09-27 02:32:37 PM

bacongood: brigid_fitch: 2 1/2 years is not "loyal service", especially after you put in notice 18 months after you started. Oh, and your biggest mistake:

October 2011
I decide to hand in my notice and join another agency in order to further my development. [REDACTED] while initially cold to my departure rapidly changed tone and started to court me in order to stay.

NEVER take a counter-offer. You've only proven that you're NOT a loyal employee--your only motivation is money. Take a counter-offer and the company will make your life a living hell.

/Former recruiter
//Seen it happen waaaaay too often

I make it crystal clear that my motivation is money. If I have led any employer to believe otherwise, I am sorry.


Same here. I make sure there are no illusions what so ever. I do what I'm hired to do, I get a check plus other benefits. That is the deal. Minute one of the parties doesn't like the deal, it is done no hard feelings. Worked quite well for me over the years. I also don't get crapped on nearly as much as the loyal company types. No real stress, no doing 4 people's jobs, no excessive overtime. I won't be a manager, but that's ok I don't want to be one and tailored my career around avoiding that. I'm still in the top percentiles of salary incomes for the country. I think if more people looked at their careers as a way to make a living and have nice things, not as their life defining reason to exist, the world would improve. Be good at what you do but work to live, not live to work; plus it is always about the money. Everything else is just an red herring. There is no cake for loyalty.
 
2012-09-27 02:35:11 PM
Yeah dude, your name and this letter will never end up on a Google search.
 
2012-09-27 02:36:51 PM

Big Beef Burrito: Rapmaster2000: BTW, not to open a can-of-worms here, but am I the only one who assumed this was a woman? I feel kind of sexist for equivocating whiner with woman.

Meh, I'll get over it.

I did too.

I think it was the word "juicy" in the headline, along with the gossipy "he had sex on the desk" part.

I guess we should have assumed subby was a woman.


Many of the people in TFA's comments thought Kieran was a woman, too. I assumed it was a male snowflake. When women go off like this, they don't usually bullet-point their history before launching into the personal attack.
 
2012-09-27 02:38:57 PM
This is much easier o read than the version yesterday, but once again, IT IS A REPEAT. Jesus, it's like the whole week is nothing but repeats, no wonder nobody gets anything greened, they're too busy running the same stories over and over.
 
2012-09-27 02:39:22 PM
FTA: "Feb 21st I had to go to the doctors due to an imminent breakdown where I was ordered to stay off work indefinitely. I was signed off with Work Related Stress. I ended up needing over 2weeks off in order to recover."

WTF? This is a thing? Around here, we just call it Monday.
 
2012-09-27 02:41:44 PM

brigid_fitch: Big Beef Burrito: Rapmaster2000: BTW, not to open a can-of-worms here, but am I the only one who assumed this was a woman? I feel kind of sexist for equivocating whiner with woman.

Meh, I'll get over it.

I did too.

I think it was the word "juicy" in the headline, along with the gossipy "he had sex on the desk" part.

I guess we should have assumed subby was a woman.

Many of the people in TFA's comments thought Kieran was a woman, too. I assumed it was a male snowflake. When women go off like this, they don't usually bullet-point their history before launching into the personal attack.


In my defense, my perception was probably tainted by listening to my wife biatch about work every single day.

/this isn't helping, is it?
 
2012-09-27 02:44:44 PM
not very professional.
 
2012-09-27 03:05:27 PM
Two year and a half years huh? Two and a half? Oh, what a big man you are! Hey, let me buy you a pack of gum. I'll show you how to chew it.
 
2012-09-27 03:15:16 PM

genepool lifeboat: FTA: "Feb 21st I had to go to the doctors due to an imminent breakdown where I was ordered to stay off work indefinitely. I was signed off with Work Related Stress. I ended up needing over 2weeks off in order to recover."

WTF? This is a thing? Around here, we just call it Monday.


Son of a biatch! What is wrong with you people?!?

Is it so unfathomable to believe something horrible might happen at a place where you spend at least one third of your day five days a week? From the sound of the "boss", it sounds like a lot of VERY inappropriate stuff was going on before and after February. You and I might need a couple of weeks off too after witnessing the antisemitic and hate spewing boss butt ass naked screwing the new girl and making five to 100 times my salary in the process. That kind of holier than thou, gross negligent behavior has probably led to people going psycho and shooting up the entire office more than once... be glad it was just a harshly worded letter.
 
2012-09-27 03:23:28 PM

xaldin: bacongood: brigid_fitch: 2 1/2 years is not "loyal service", especially after you put in notice 18 months after you started. Oh, and your biggest mistake:

October 2011
I decide to hand in my notice and join another agency in order to further my development. [REDACTED] while initially cold to my departure rapidly changed tone and started to court me in order to stay.

NEVER take a counter-offer. You've only proven that you're NOT a loyal employee--your only motivation is money. Take a counter-offer and the company will make your life a living hell.

/Former recruiter
//Seen it happen waaaaay too often

I make it crystal clear that my motivation is money. If I have led any employer to believe otherwise, I am sorry.

Same here. I make sure there are no illusions what so ever. I do what I'm hired to do, I get a check plus other benefits. That is the deal. Minute one of the parties doesn't like the deal, it is done no hard feelings. Worked quite well for me over the years. I also don't get crapped on nearly as much as the loyal company types. No real stress, no doing 4 people's jobs, no excessive overtime. I won't be a manager, but that's ok I don't want to be one and tailored my career around avoiding that. I'm still in the top percentiles of salary incomes for the country. I think if more people looked at their careers as a way to make a living and have nice things, not as their life defining reason to exist, the world would improve. Be good at what you do but work to live, not live to work; plus it is always about the money. Everything else is just an red herring. There is no cake for loyalty.


I deal with people with a shiatty work/life balance all the time--"If you really love science, than the [money/long hours/lack of a future] shouldn't bother you. And the ranks are full of dopes that have no concept of their own self-interest and fall for this crap.

I have a 2 year contract with no federal benefits and no unemployment insurance. There is a 0% chance of being hired full time (while tenured professors have a 0% chance of getting fired). You're damn right I'm looking to jump ship the second I can. Loyalty?
 
2012-09-27 03:36:45 PM
2 1/2 years? That's less time than some people spend being sophomores in college.
 
2012-09-27 03:45:05 PM

born_yesterday: You're damn right I'm looking to jump ship the second I can. Loyalty?


I hear higher-ups talk about loyalty all the time. But loyalty works both ways. If there's no loyalty downward, then the bosses should expect no loyalty upward.
 
2012-09-27 03:47:13 PM

xaldin: Same here. I make sure there are no illusions what so ever. I do what I'm hired to do, I get a check plus other benefits. That is the deal. Minute one of the parties doesn't like the deal, it is done no hard feelings. Worked quite well for me over the years. I also don't get crapped on nearly as much as the loyal company types. No real stress, no doing 4 people's jobs, no excessive overtime. I won't be a manager, but that's ok I don't want to be one and tailored my career around avoiding that. I'm still in the top percentiles of salary incomes for the country. I think if more people looked at their careers as a way to make a living and have nice things, not as their life defining reason to exist, the world would improve. Be good at what you do but work to live, not live to work; plus it is always about the money. Everything else is just an red herring. There is no cake for loyalty.


Work: Where I go to make money.
Life: What I do with said money and any time not at work.

To be fair, there is often cake at work.
 
2012-09-27 03:54:04 PM

bacongood: Work: Where I go to make money.
Life: What I do with said money and any time not at work.


THIS

I like my job, I like the people I work with. But if I could do basically the same job for a sizable raise, yes, I'm taking it, no hard feelings.
 
2012-09-27 03:59:51 PM

bacongood: xaldin: Same here. I make sure there are no illusions what so ever. I do what I'm hired to do, I get a check plus other benefits. That is the deal. Minute one of the parties doesn't like the deal, it is done no hard feelings. Worked quite well for me over the years. I also don't get crapped on nearly as much as the loyal company types. No real stress, no doing 4 people's jobs, no excessive overtime. I won't be a manager, but that's ok I don't want to be one and tailored my career around avoiding that. I'm still in the top percentiles of salary incomes for the country. I think if more people looked at their careers as a way to make a living and have nice things, not as their life defining reason to exist, the world would improve. Be good at what you do but work to live, not live to work; plus it is always about the money. Everything else is just an red herring. There is no cake for loyalty.

Work: Where I go to make money.
Life: What I do with said money and any time not at work.

To be fair, there is often cake at work.


bacongood: xaldin: Same here. I make sure there are no illusions what so ever. I do what I'm hired to do, I get a check plus other benefits. That is the deal. Minute one of the parties doesn't like the deal, it is done no hard feelings. Worked quite well for me over the years. I also don't get crapped on nearly as much as the loyal company types. No real stress, no doing 4 people's jobs, no excessive overtime. I won't be a manager, but that's ok I don't want to be one and tailored my career around avoiding that. I'm still in the top percentiles of salary incomes for the country. I think if more people looked at their careers as a way to make a living and have nice things, not as their life defining reason to exist, the world would improve. Be good at what you do but work to live, not live to work; plus it is always about the money. Everything else is just an red herring. There is no cake for loyalty.

Work: Where I go to make money.
Life: What I do with said money and any time not at work.

To be fair, there is often cake at work.


The cake is a lie.
 
2012-09-27 04:01:38 PM
Whatever indiscretions that boss allegedly made are overshadowed by the supreme immaturity and unprofessionalism of that letter. People having sex at work, while inappropriate, isn't illegal. Moreover, if they're consenting adults - who cares? People can have all the sex they want.

But sending a letter full of butthurt and whining about how they didn't respect you is a million times worse.

The author of that letter should be the only one ridiculed.
 
2012-09-27 04:28:26 PM

phuquetarde: Whatever indiscretions that boss allegedly made are overshadowed by the supreme immaturity and unprofessionalism of that letter. People having sex at work, while inappropriate, isn't illegal.

Yes it is, unless you work for a legal brothel.

Moreover, if they're consenting adults - who cares? People can have all the sex they want.

That kind of thinking gets you from this...
browntails.files.wordpress.com
to this...
s1.hubimg.com
 
2012-09-27 04:28:46 PM

phuquetarde: Whatever indiscretions that boss allegedly made are overshadowed by the supreme immaturity and unprofessionalism of that letter. People having sex at work, while inappropriate, isn't illegal. Moreover, if they're consenting adults - who cares? People can have all the sex they want.

But sending a letter full of butthurt and whining about how they didn't respect you is a million times worse.

The author of that letter should be the only one ridiculed.


Banging someone in the office after you've interviewed them isn't a big deal? A potential employee is just a "consenting adult?" That idiot (allegedly) put himself and his company at huge risk for a sexual harassment lawsuit. Complaining about the job you obviously didn't like (since you're leaving) is worse than bigoted comments and farking an interviewee?

Where in the hell do you work?

Yeah, the letter was unprofessional. But there are WAY too many people in here attacking the messenger and giving the scumbag boss a free pass.
 
2012-09-27 04:28:59 PM

phuquetarde: Whatever indiscretions that boss allegedly made are overshadowed by the supreme immaturity and unprofessionalism of that letter. People having sex at work, while inappropriate, isn't illegal. Moreover, if they're consenting adults - who cares? People can have all the sex they want.


First, it's usually considered inappropriate behavior that would lead to dismissal. Second, the new girl possibly getting hired in exchange for sexual favours? That becomes the companies problem now.

A resignation letter often includes the reasons for leaving, when some or all of those reasons are the actions of management, detailing them is indeed appropriate. 

Also I love your issue with unprofessionalism in the letter yet you are ok with sex in the conference room, which is basically the definition of unprofessional conduct. How many people do you manage?
 
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