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(Newschannel 9)   Good news everyone You can fire your gun at someone in a Walmart parking lot without having to do any 'splainin'   (newschannel9.com) divider line 103
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2012-09-27 08:33:38 AM
I wouldn't have it any other way: "Walmart: where the quick and the dead come to shop."
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-27 09:48:00 AM
It's in the second amendment, just ask any gun nut.
 
2012-09-27 09:59:53 AM
laid his keys down in the Brainerd Walmart

There's a few people in Brainerd who aren't so okay, I'll tell you that.
 
2012-09-27 10:05:36 AM
I carry a gun, but I consider myself no gun nut. In the unlikely event of a situation in which I'd be forced to draw the gun I would, but for someone stealing a vehicle? Really? Just let it go. Hopefully you have theft coverage. Call the cops and call your insurance company, but opening fire on a moving vehicle in a parking lot? That doesn't seem like a good idea.

Also, you're shooting YOUR OWN TRUCK, goofus.
 
2012-09-27 10:07:16 AM

TwistedIvory: I carry a gun, but I consider myself no gun nut. In the unlikely event of a situation in which I'd be forced to draw the gun I would, but for someone stealing a vehicle? Really? Just let it go. Hopefully you have theft coverage. Call the cops and call your insurance company, but opening fire on a moving vehicle in a parking lot? That doesn't seem like a good idea.

Also, you're shooting YOUR OWN TRUCK, goofus.


no don't you understand, a thing is totally worth killing over
 
2012-09-27 10:11:57 AM
Desi Arnez Lawrence

HEHEHE
 
2012-09-27 10:24:19 AM
If that had happened here in Texas, there would have been helpers joining in the shooting. It would have been like that scene in Idiocracy where the cops destroyed Frito's car.
 
2012-09-27 10:25:51 AM
Impossible.

I was told that someone who pulls their gun in a situation like this would never, ever miss their target because they're all expert marksmen.
 
2012-09-27 10:31:10 AM
There's a lot missing from that headline.
 
2012-09-27 01:18:38 PM
This guy?

www.nndb.com
 
2012-09-27 01:19:05 PM
FTA: Desi Arnez Lawrence, 55, apparently laid his keys down in the Brainerd Walmart September 11. Police say that Christopher Goins picked up those keys and headed outside.

Sounds like it was a devious ploy for the truck owner to go pew pew pew.

cache.ohinternet.com
 
2012-09-27 01:20:20 PM
craziness. last night I had a dream this couple (ignorant, i may add) did something in the parking lot, then both approached my vehicle in a hostile manner...after asking the gentleman to not open the door to my vehicle, he did, which resulted in his lead lunch.

maybe it was my sinus medicine talking, who knows?
 
2012-09-27 01:21:18 PM
Where exactly will the Walmart be parking, and can I fire my gun at somebody if the Walmart has already parked?
 
2012-09-27 01:21:42 PM
Lookit all these lib'ral wussies gettin' all butt-hurt over some shootin'
Dayum shame. In my day ya could shoot a fella for takin' your bicycle and people'd say "criminal got what was comin' to him"
 
2012-09-27 01:22:33 PM
Do they sell bullet proof vests in WalMart? I mean, just in case someone wants to exercise their rights to shoot at moving things.
 
2012-09-27 01:24:03 PM
Yeah, no splainin' just an arrest, questioning and a jury trail. But no splainin!
 
2012-09-27 01:24:15 PM

vpb: It's in the second amendment, just ask any gun nut.


No it would be the 5th amendment in this case. "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury"

The grand jury returned a no bill on this so that is it more or less. The standard for a grand jury is much lower than a trial jury. For any felony charge, an indictment form a grand jury is mandatory so not having that is it. Even were they going for a misdemeanor charge, if you get a no bill from the grand jury you are done, no way you'd get a conviction in court.
 
2012-09-27 01:24:40 PM
I notice they say he shot at the perp, not shot the perp.

That's kinda the point I'd like to highlight here. It's not that I have any particular problem with somebody shooting a perp in a parking lot, even if it's just a property matter, it's the part about them missing that makes me think maybe this idiot should see some prison time.

/ polite society, everybody armed, etc. etc.
 
2012-09-27 01:25:42 PM
www.geeksofdoom.com

Read the headline in his voice
 
2012-09-27 01:29:10 PM
Impossible.

I was told that someone who pulls their gun in a situation like this would never, ever miss their target because they're all expert marksmen.


Generally the "Gun Nuts" are better shots than the police. Practice more.

Pity he didn't kill the thief. Better luck next time....
 
2012-09-27 01:29:16 PM

Bruxellensis: [www.geeksofdoom.com image 200x181]

Read the headline in his voice


Same here, can't believe it took to the 19th post to get his picture up.
 
2012-09-27 01:29:22 PM
Try to steal my truck one more time, one more time. And it's TO THE MOON LUCY, to the moon!
 
2012-09-27 01:29:23 PM
At the Dollar Store, you could do it with wad cutters.
 
2012-09-27 01:29:27 PM
Lawrence, Lawrence of Arabia. He was an English Guy. He came to fight the Turkish.
 
2012-09-27 01:30:38 PM
More appropriate at Target.
 
2012-09-27 01:32:16 PM

Jackson Herring: TwistedIvory: I carry a gun, but I consider myself no gun nut. In the unlikely event of a situation in which I'd be forced to draw the gun I would, but for someone stealing a vehicle? Really? Just let it go. Hopefully you have theft coverage. Call the cops and call your insurance company, but opening fire on a moving vehicle in a parking lot? That doesn't seem like a good idea.

Also, you're shooting YOUR OWN TRUCK, goofus.

no don't you understand, a thing is totally worth killing over


A thing? No. An idea? Yes.

The idea is that you can live in a society secure in your person without having to worry about some lowlife farkwit turning it upsidedown because of their antisocial, anarchistic, sociopathic take on life. Putting a bullet in the head of every lowlife piece of shiat that decides to hold up a convenience store because they hold a complete lack of regard for anyone other than themselves is the best thing that could happen to us.
 
2012-09-27 01:32:32 PM
YES!
 
2012-09-27 01:35:57 PM
The guy firing at his own truck misses and someone else thinks they are being shot at draws their weapon out and shoots at the first guy, the 2nd guy misses the 1st guy and another guy thinks they are shooting at him.......
 
2012-09-27 01:36:43 PM

mark12A: Impossible.

I was told that someone who pulls their gun in a situation like this would never, ever miss their target because they're all expert marksmen.

Generally the "Gun Nuts" are better shots than the police. Practice more.

Pity he didn't kill the thief. Better luck next time....


Yeah, he shoulda shot the guy through the shoulder, so as not to kill, then jumped on the hood of the truck, forcing it into an oncoming tanker rig and leaping clear at the last moment while being silhouetted by an awesome explosion. The he should have said something like "better luck next time" even though the car thief is now righteously dead and stuff. Oh, and totally, f- the po-lice, right? They're all so fat and stupid. Nobody should count on them for anything! Haw Haw!

www.mlove.ru

/ITG for the win
 
2012-09-27 01:38:57 PM

Deep Contact: The guy firing at his own truck misses and someone else thinks they are being shot at draws their weapon out and shoots at the first guy, the 2nd guy misses the 1st guy and another guy thinks they are shooting at him.......


You know, people seem to like to make up these doomsday gun scenarios... but the fact that they are making them up rather than pointing to actual ones really seems to put a damper on the plausibility of them. See that may be what you think would happen but what actually happened was this guy shot at the thief, nobody got hurt, and nobody else shot at him. So sort of the opposite of what you posted.
 
2012-09-27 01:42:07 PM

sycraft: Deep Contact: The guy firing at his own truck misses and someone else thinks they are being shot at draws their weapon out and shoots at the first guy, the 2nd guy misses the 1st guy and another guy thinks they are shooting at him.......

You know, people seem to like to make up these doomsday gun scenarios... but the fact that they are making them up rather than pointing to actual ones really seems to put a damper on the plausibility of them. See that may be what you think would happen but what actually happened was this guy shot at the thief, nobody got hurt, and nobody else shot at him. So sort of the opposite of what you posted.


Whatever

You're right, though. We don't need to be making up hairbrained doomsday scenarios when idiots are handling guns every day all over the country as it is.
 
2012-09-27 01:42:43 PM
TwistedIvory: "opening fire on a moving vehicle in a parking lot? That doesn't seem like a good idea"

'bears repeating' and 'this' and whatnot.

This guy would have been lucky to not cause death or serious injury to a bystander even if he *hit* the thief.
 
2012-09-27 01:44:25 PM
Sounds like the proper response anytime you're in the Wal-Mart parking lot. I'd love to spray lead at the jackasses who leave their shopping carts in the middle of a parking spot instead of putting them in the cart return cages.
 
2012-09-27 01:45:26 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Whatever


That's not a doomsday scenario, that's comedy gold.
 
2012-09-27 01:49:02 PM
Sounds like a good commercial for Wal-Mart
 
2012-09-27 01:50:49 PM
StrangeQ: "Putting a bullet in the head of every lowlife piece of shiat that decides to hold up a convenience store because they hold a complete lack of regard for anyone other than themselves is the best thing that could happen to us."

Yeah, that's great and all, but we're over here in reality, where the big question is whether or not random citizens are actually capable of putting their bullets in the criminal more often than they create further victims. If guns were foolproof little buttons one could push that instantly euthanized only actual criminals, *of course* we'd be better off if everyone carried one. But they ain't.
 
2012-09-27 01:55:08 PM
I'm one of the most liberal gun control people I know, and I don't see how this was wrong, unless you go with the endangering others. Someone was stealing his property. He's within his right to defend it to the death. Isn't the rule that you can shoot someone who infiltrates your car or home? I'm being serious, correct me if I'm wrong. Unless shooting at the car posed a clear danger to others in the line of sight, seems ok to me.
 
2012-09-27 01:56:56 PM
Yeah, I'm ok with some guy endangering my life over a shiatty pickup truck. That's totally cool with me.
 
2012-09-27 02:08:08 PM

Deep Contact: The guy firing at his own truck misses and someone else thinks they are being shot at draws their weapon out and shoots at the first guy, the 2nd guy misses the 1st guy and another guy thinks they are shooting at him.......


STFU. That'll never happen since a civilian with a CCW will never miss when discharging his/her weapon at a target because they are all crack shots that have way more range time than police.

/ducks
 
2012-09-27 02:11:45 PM
So a guy lays down he's keys, perp grabs them and runs off to steal guy's truck.

Guy then unloads his gun ON HIS TRUCK that is being stolen

Guy is a terrible shot, and stupid.
 
2012-09-27 02:12:03 PM

justtray: I'm one of the most liberal gun control people I know, and I don't see how this was wrong, unless you go with the endangering others. Someone was stealing his property. He's within his right to defend it to the death. Isn't the rule that you can shoot someone who infiltrates your car or home? I'm being serious, correct me if I'm wrong. Unless shooting at the car posed a clear danger to others in the line of sight, seems ok to me.


Firing at an unarmed (as far as you know) thief who's fleeing the scene puts you on shaky legal ground in just about any state. Reckless endangerment was the correct charge, IMHO. But the fact that the grand jury declined to indict him is fine with me, too. Honestly, missing the perpetrator was probably the best thing that could have happened to the shooter, legally-speaking.
 
2012-09-27 02:12:55 PM

Mangoose: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Whatever

That's not a doomsday scenario, that's comedy gold.


Here's another for you...

Link (new window)
 
2012-09-27 02:14:46 PM

sycraft: vpb: It's in the second amendment, just ask any gun nut.

No it would be the 5th amendment in this case. "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury"

The grand jury returned a no bill on this so that is it more or less. The standard for a grand jury is much lower than a trial jury. For any felony charge, an indictment form a grand jury is mandatory so not having that is it. Even were they going for a misdemeanor charge, if you get a no bill from the grand jury you are done, no way you'd get a conviction in court.


So they can still file a excess noise civil citation?
 
2012-09-27 02:15:26 PM

mark12A: Impossible.

I was told that someone who pulls their gun in a situation like this would never, ever miss their target because they're all expert marksmen.

Generally the "Gun Nuts" are better shots than the police. Practice more.

Pity he didn't kill the thief. Better luck next time....


Yup. Now society can pay to have him in jail. Time to get a gun with a longer barrel...
 
2012-09-27 02:16:09 PM

mytdawg: Lawrence, Lawrence of Arabia. He was an English Guy. He came to fight the Turkish.


One of my favorite movies!

/ Officer Bimbo
 
2012-09-27 02:18:06 PM

justtray: I'm one of the most liberal gun control people I know, and I don't see how this was wrong, unless you go with the endangering others. Someone was stealing his property. He's within his right to defend it to the death. Isn't the rule that you can shoot someone who infiltrates your car or home? I'm being serious, correct me if I'm wrong. Unless shooting at the car posed a clear danger to others in the line of sight, seems ok to me.


I'm no lawyers, but society is governed by laws, which are nuanced, often arbitrary, and change from place to place and over time. So, to answer your question, there is no general "rule" that you can shoot anyone who "infiltrates" your property.

I have no sympathy to criminals who die in t he act, but I still think it's funny all the people who masturbate to images of them getting to shoot someone with their new guns. Odds are, you won't feel super awesome afterwards, and that the paperwork might make it not sound so awesome.
 
2012-09-27 02:18:10 PM

TwistedIvory: I carry a gun, but I consider myself no gun nut. In the unlikely event of a situation in which I'd be forced to draw the gun I would, but for someone stealing a vehicle? Really? Just let it go. Hopefully you have theft coverage. Call the cops and call your insurance company, but opening fire on a moving vehicle in a parking lot? That doesn't seem like a good idea.

Also, you're shooting YOUR OWN TRUCK, goofus.


Exactly. Yep, shooting an innocent bystander is totally justified. Your tiny bullets have a VERY good chance of stopping the truck as it drives away.

Dorks with guns are a problem, not necessarily guns themselves.
 
2012-09-27 02:19:22 PM

kkinnison: So a guy lays down he's keys, perp grabs them and runs off to steal guy's truck.


This got me to thinking, how did he know what truck to steal from just the keys?

Then the answer struck me. The same way the heroine in the movie Kill Bill knew which truck to take at the hospital.

www.bmfwallets.com
 
2012-09-27 02:20:26 PM

mark12A: Impossible.

I was told that someone who pulls their gun in a situation like this would never, ever miss their target because they're all expert marksmen.

Generally the "Gun Nuts" are better shots than the police. Practice more.

Pity he didn't kill the thief. Better luck next time....


Bullshiat, and where did those bullets go when they didn't hit the theif?

You are a dork with a gun, it would appear.
 
2012-09-27 02:20:42 PM

Mangoose: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Whatever

That's not a doomsday scenario, that's comedy gold.


Yeah, having idiots like that in the military is f*cking hilarious
 
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