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2012-09-27 08:47:09 AM
This will probably get greened so I'll save you the trouble.

Blah blah blah, uncetainty, blah derp blah, over regulation, herpaderp, Obama bad, derp derp derp.

No citations, no facts, no examples of oppressive policy.
 
2012-09-27 08:58:28 AM
But, I did find a job. Thanks Obama!
 
2012-09-27 09:17:33 AM

sammyk: This will probably get greened so I'll save you the trouble.

Blah blah blah, uncetainty, blah derp blah, over regulation, herpaderp, Obama bad, derp derp derp.

No citations, no facts, no examples of oppressive policy.


Perhaps this would blow your skirt up.

I seriously doubt it though.
 
2012-09-27 09:28:44 AM
Another attempt to get this greenlit?

Dancin_In_Anson: sammyk: This will probably get greened so I'll save you the trouble.

Blah blah blah, uncetainty, blah derp blah, over regulation, herpaderp, Obama bad, derp derp derp.

No citations, no facts, no examples of oppressive policy.

Perhaps this would blow your skirt up.

I seriously doubt it though.


Uncertainty rises during and after a recession? No shiat? Clearly I should start supporting the party and policies that were in charge leading up to the recession and not the ones that were in charge while we pulled back from complete destruction and actually started to recover, even at a slower pace than your highness' liking.
 
2012-09-27 09:35:15 AM
Y'know, 'uncertainty' could also mean "we don't know just how badly Mitt and his band of neocons are gonna tank the economy if god forbid he actually wins."
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-27 09:42:18 AM
If I only looked at the headline I would have thought he was talking about the finance industry and four years of Romney.
 
2012-09-27 10:01:01 AM
Yes it truly is a dark time for small business owners isn't it
 
2012-09-27 10:01:36 AM
Luckily when Romney wins, he will instantly lighten the mood
 
2012-09-27 10:03:40 AM

sammyk: This will probably get greened so I'll save you the trouble.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-27 10:04:58 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: sammyk: This will probably get greened so I'll save you the trouble.

Blah blah blah, uncetainty, blah derp blah, over regulation, herpaderp, Obama bad, derp derp derp.

No citations, no facts, no examples of oppressive policy.

Perhaps this would blow your skirt up.

I seriously doubt it though.


Those types of surveys really don't surprise me. I just don't see how you can point the finger at Obama. Four years ago almost to the day the world experienced a global economic crash that was unprecedented and will go down in the history books. We still have not recovered and demand has not caught up with what the world can supply. On top of that here in the U.S. we are in the middle of a presidential election. Every single presidential election that I can remember has caused a slight downturn. This is a rational economic response. Not just because we may or may not have a new president. But also because the balance of power in congress will always change.

Ignoring these economic conditions and herping the derp about non specified fairy tail job killing regulations is farking retarded.
 
2012-09-27 10:05:54 AM
Is this a preview of Mitt Romney's concession speech?
 
2012-09-27 10:10:06 AM
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When Mongoloids Opine
 
2012-09-27 10:14:22 AM
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2012-09-27 10:14:49 AM
Middle class and poor people need money or small businesses won't have clients, end of story.

Electing the guy who wants to take deductions away from the poor and middle class for tax cuts for the rich isn't going to help small business at all.
 
2012-09-27 10:17:22 AM
The NAM spokesman went on to add "If we had to start this special interest lobbying group today, we probably wouldn't.  In this economy, some days it feels like it's not even worth getting out of bed and having delicious lunches with people in power in an attempt to sway policy.  It's getting to the point where 'are you going to finish your dessert?' because this place makes an AWESOME to-go swan."
 
2012-09-27 10:18:18 AM

vpb: If I only looked at the headline I would have thought he was talking about the finance industry and four years of Romney.


Ditto. But do keep trying to tell me how I am foolish for not voting for the guy on the front of the Monopoly box, Republicans.

55 percent of small business owners would not start company today, blame Obama

If they have been open for more than three years, they are beating the average.
 
2012-09-27 10:18:43 AM
The same NFIB: Small business owners are most likely to identify lack of demand as their biggest impediment to growth. And those who identify uncertainty as an impediment generally mean uncertainty about future sales - i.e., demand - rather than deficits or taxes or regulations. Link
 
2012-09-27 10:20:28 AM

sammyk: I just don't see how you can point the finger at Obama


Then you aren't paying attention.
 
2012-09-27 10:22:13 AM
So we should go back to the policies and leadership in place when the entire economy collapsed! That is certainly the answer to fixing it!
 
2012-09-27 10:24:37 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: sammyk: I just don't see how you can point the finger at Obama

Then you aren't paying attention.


For every complex question there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.

I'm fine with reducing regulations and removing unnecessary and obstructive ones. However, the anti-regulation people tend to not come from a position of "These are necessary, but we need to fix them." They come from a position of "All regulations are fundamentally wrong, and even if they fit on one page it wouldn't satisfy our warped sense of what a free market is."

Kind of like the discussion about social safety nets. It's okay to have standards, but not when you're starting with the idea that all recipients are lazy and all safety nets enable them and should be torn down to let everyone rely on charity and assume that all economic circumstances are directly controllable by individuals.
 
2012-09-27 10:24:52 AM
i194.photobucket.com

Dear President Romney,

In this dark economic time, I am not comfortable with starting a small business. Once you are sworn into office, I have plans to start a small potato manufacturing operation which will generate potato dollars in revenue every year.

Love,
Torg
 
2012-09-27 10:30:57 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: sammyk: I just don't see how you can point the finger at Obama

Then you aren't paying attention.


A majority of Americans rightly blame Bush for the recession. They also rightly blame Congress for the fragile recovery. That's why Obama's leading.

Also Romney's a terrible candidate.
 
2012-09-27 10:31:17 AM

sweetmelissa31: [i194.photobucket.com image 220x153]

Dear President Romney,

In this dark economic time, I am not comfortable with starting a small business. Once you are sworn into office, I have plans to start a small potato manufacturing operation which will generate potato dollars in revenue every year.

Love,
Torg


gopprimary2012.com

Dear Torg,

When I become President, my first act will be to reunite you with my son Bapp. I wish you luck in your Potato concern.

Salutations,

Mort Roomney
 
2012-09-27 10:32:59 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: sammyk: I just don't see how you can point the finger at Obama

Then you aren't paying attention.


*click*

For extra info on major final rules and small business impacts, check the Regulation Overview.

*click*

Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist.

*close*
 
2012-09-27 10:35:20 AM
But you'll vote for four more years of it

This is the stage called "acceptance."
 
2012-09-27 10:40:01 AM

Bloody William: They come from a position of "All regulations are fundamentally wrong


Not in the least. However, your mind is made up that people who are concerned with how new rules that are currently in the pipeline and those to follow want the federal register burned even though nothing could be further than the truth.
 
2012-09-27 10:41:48 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: sammyk: I just don't see how you can point the finger at Obama

Then you aren't paying attention.


Normally your pretty smart. What does that even prove? Simply counting the pages of federal regulations doesn't prove a thing or even address the impact of those regulations. I've seen the question asked here on fark hundreds of times. Can we have an example of these so called job killing regulations?
 
2012-09-27 10:44:16 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Bloody William: They come from a position of "All regulations are fundamentally wrong

Not in the least. However, your mind is made up that people who are concerned with how new rules that are currently in the pipeline and those to follow want the federal register burned even though nothing could be further than the truth.


Except that the one citation you could come up with doesn't appear to exist anymore.

When pressed, businessmen can't name the regulations that are supposedly "killing" them.
 
2012-09-27 10:47:49 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Bloody William: They come from a position of "All regulations are fundamentally wrong

Not in the least. However, your mind is made up that people who are concerned with how new rules that are currently in the pipeline and those to follow want the federal register burned even though nothing could be further than the truth.


From your own crappy link, and I use the term crappy to describe its quality and not its policy because it directed me to their farking Facebook page,

"For nearly 20 years, Wayne Crews has dedicated Ten Thousand Commandments to informing citizens about the hidden tax of federal government regulation of the economy."

These groups and think tanks work from a position that regulation is fundamentally detrimental, and strive to shave off everything they can. I have never, ever heard of a "fiscal conservative" think take describe reasonable federal regulations, only state that regulations must be taken down and "reformed" without any description of replacement and that the best regulation is self-regulation, which is kind of like arguing that society would work just fine without police if we just trust ourselves to not steal from people.
 
2012-09-27 10:48:33 AM

gameshowhost: When Mongoloids Opine


There is nothing in the world more punchable than a young conservative.
 
2012-09-27 10:49:09 AM

sammyk: Can we have an example of these so called job killing regulations?


coincidentally that's the page that can't be found on his link...
 
2012-09-27 10:51:26 AM
I'm pretty sure the uncertainty is on who has a chance to win, and that whole EUROPE IS COLLAPSING thing going on over there. 
 
In other words, no matter who gets in, and no matter whether their policies are growth related via tax reduction, or safety net continuing under stimulus cubed, the collapse of Europe's economy is going to hurt the U.S. 
 
We're pretty much going to have to deal with more economic shiat for the next few years.  One candidate wants to weather it out by not spending as much so they can afford to meet the bills that are already obligations knowing that some will lose drastically in that move, and the other wants to weather it by spending more to continue keeping everyone afloat hoping we can sustain that and not collapse completely.
 
Neither is ideal.  But the lack of recovery so far, largely due to outside forces (non-US) but also possibly due to the uncertainty of the last several spending cycles of the government, is not helping either.
 
And the economic indicators are going every which way.   Basically, the economy sucks, but sucks less than when it was in freefall.  It has stabilized...for the most part...but isn't really strengthening.  That is your uncertainty. 
 
2012-09-27 11:19:53 AM

I_C_Weener: weather it by spending more


You are aware that Obama's budget includes spending cuts, right?
 
2012-09-27 11:26:02 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: gameshowhost: When Mongoloids Opine

There is nothing in the world more punchable than a young conservative.


Normally, yes. But here's a counter-point:

www.lisamoscatiello.com
 
2012-09-27 11:35:13 AM

Jackson Herring: Luckily when Romney wins, he will instantly lighten the mood


"without actually doing anything" or however that quote from his 47% video went.
 
2012-09-27 11:36:11 AM
But I just started up a company and we are hiring people.
 
2012-09-27 11:37:29 AM

Jackson Herring: Yes it truly is a dark time for small business owners isn't it



It is actually.  The fact that its impossible to get credit after being farked by situations outside of our control makes it so.  But I'm not dumb enough to blame one single branch of government, and certainly not one single man (Obama).
 
2012-09-27 11:39:57 AM

Makh: But I just started up a company and we are hiring people.


in this political uncertainty? good luck pal.
 
2012-09-27 11:41:21 AM

sammyk: Dancin_In_Anson: sammyk: I just don't see how you can point the finger at Obama

Then you aren't paying attention.

Normally your pretty smart. What does that even prove? Simply counting the pages of federal regulations doesn't prove a thing or even address the impact of those regulations. I've seen the question asked here on fark hundreds of times. Can we have an example of these so called job killing regulations?



I've run a small business for 11 years and have never once come up against a federal regulation that hurt us at all.  Or, hell, even applied to us (the sheer majority apply to companies with 50 or more employees... which I consider a medium-sized business, not small.)
 
I have a ton of friends who own retail/bar/restaurant businesses down here.  *local* regulations are what fark them up.  Again, never had one come up against a federal regulation that hurt them.
 
2012-09-27 11:42:42 AM
The funny thing is that small business owners are just as screwed under a Tea Party government as the rest of us. For the Tea Party, it's all about Big Business. You are only as valuable as your bank account. Consolidation, monopolies, cartels, trusts... that's what Big Business wants, and there's no room for small business or competition in that world. J. P. Morgan would heartily approve.
 
2012-09-27 11:44:31 AM

Headso: Middle class and poor people need money or small businesses won't have clients, end of story.

Electing the guy who wants to take deductions away from the poor and middle class for tax cuts for the rich isn't going to help small business at all.


the guy that is going to implement trillions in tax increases to pay for bad policies isn't going to help small business at all either.
 
2012-09-27 11:44:52 AM
i595.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-27 11:53:51 AM

downstairs: sammyk: Dancin_In_Anson: sammyk: I just don't see how you can point the finger at Obama

Then you aren't paying attention.

Normally your pretty smart. What does that even prove? Simply counting the pages of federal regulations doesn't prove a thing or even address the impact of those regulations. I've seen the question asked here on fark hundreds of times. Can we have an example of these so called job killing regulations?


I've run a small business for 11 years and have never once come up against a federal regulation that hurt us at all.  Or, hell, even applied to us (the sheer majority apply to companies with 50 or more employees... which I consider a medium-sized business, not small.)
 
I have a ton of friends who own retail/bar/restaurant businesses down here.  *local* regulations are what fark them up.  Again, never had one come up against a federal regulation that hurt them.


Yup. I'm sure if they asked those business owners who claimed Obama regulations were hurting them to name those regulations, most either couldn't name a specific regulation or would name a local regulation instead or one that actually was put in place prior to Obama taking office.

You would probably also find they they are life long Republicans who only watch Fox and have never once voted for a D in a major election.
 
2012-09-27 11:55:14 AM

downstairs: I have a ton of friends who own retail/bar/restaurant businesses down here.  *local* regulations are what fark them up.  Again, never had one come up against a federal regulation that hurt them.


My wife runs a smallish stable off our property and our most recent hassle was from our local building inspector, farking douchebag looking for more money for the town wanted to force us to build our new barn with a cement pad and additional framing that isn't required when building a barn so they could tax us as multipurpose out building instead of a barn which gets taxed at a lower rate because it is a farm building so instead we did significant repairs and updates on our old structure. The cement pad alone was going to cost us over 10,000 dollars These are the kinds of people republicans want to give more power to, how about no...
 
2012-09-27 11:56:32 AM
My company is owned by Bain. Ask the many, many people that got fired from my company after Bain took over what they think a Romney Presidency would be like. Ask the IT people that were let go and replaced with Indian workers. Ask the drivers that were told that they were being outsourced and they could apply for jobs at the new outsourcing company for half pay and no benefits, and then none of them got hired anyway.

And Romney wants to run America like one of his companies?

That's farking terrifying to me.
 
2012-09-27 11:57:36 AM

EnviroDude: the guy that is going to implement trillions in tax increases to pay for bad policies isn't going to help small business at all either.


Which policies?
 
2012-09-27 11:57:57 AM

downstairs: It is actually. The fact that its impossible to get credit after being farked by situations outside of our control makes it so. But I'm not dumb enough to blame one single branch of government, and certainly not one single man (Obama).


I don't know if you understand. It is a dark time. A very black, dark, chocolate covered time.
 
2012-09-27 11:58:22 AM

EnviroDude: Headso: Middle class and poor people need money or small businesses won't have clients, end of story.

Electing the guy who wants to take deductions away from the poor and middle class for tax cuts for the rich isn't going to help small business at all.

the guy that is going to implement trillions in tax increases to pay for bad policies isn't going to help small business at all either.


I heard it was brazillions in tax increases and if you don't pay you go to the obama-fema-camp, these sheeple don't know because they are all brainwashed by the liberal-leftist-lamestream-driveby-media-conspiracy.
 
2012-09-27 12:06:42 PM

sweetmelissa31: downstairs: It is actually. The fact that its impossible to get credit after being farked by situations outside of our control makes it so. But I'm not dumb enough to blame one single branch of government, and certainly not one single man (Obama).

I don't know if you understand. It is a dark time. A very black, dark, chocolate covered time.



Well my business is based in The Chocolate CityTM
 
2012-09-27 12:27:33 PM

Lando Lincoln: My company is owned by Bain. Ask the many, many people that got fired from my company after Bain took over what they think a Romney Presidency would be like. Ask the IT people that were let go and replaced with Indian workers. Ask the drivers that were told that they were being outsourced and they could apply for jobs at the new outsourcing company for half pay and no benefits, and then none of them got hired anyway.

And Romney wants to run America like one of his companies?

That's farking terrifying to me.


You are forgetting the most important consideration, actually, for Romney the ONLY consideration- Did Bain make a profit?
 
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