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(Townhall)   Operatives usually practice political mythology to make a candidate seem stronger, better, truer. But in 2012, Democrats are distorting the facts to argue that their president never stood a chance against that evil genius, Mitch McConnell   (townhall.com) divider line 76
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2012-09-27 11:41:13 AM

Holocaust Agnostic: Axe the filibuster!


No need to axe it.

What you need to do is actually make them fillibuster. Once the old bags stay up for 48 hours speachifitying the entire time, they may start to change their toon. They will also look more like the idiots they are as the read random crap to fill their time.

Unfortunately now all they have to do is say they are going to fillibuster and its all , aw shucks. Well we tried...
 
2012-09-27 11:43:08 AM
TownHall is arguing that the GOP are weak.........the doublethink is starting to mindfark them into oblivion.
 
2012-09-27 12:00:10 PM

Markoff_Cheney: it is a space demon monster that consumes souls.
or a turtle.


Well the creature on the left is clearly a turtle, but the one on the right- who knows?
 
2012-09-27 12:12:27 PM

qorkfiend: actualhuman: Mentat: Faddy: Mentat: A Senate attempt to and a Tom Coburn filibuster failed the other day 58-44. With the way the Senate is currently set up, one man can essentially shut down the government.

102 senators? Might want to recheck that vote tally.

58-40. But please, focus on the typo instead of the point being made.

To be fair I still have no idea what the first sentence was supposed to say.

"A Senate attempt to end a Tom Coburn filibuster failed the other day 58-44."


Ah right - I'd assumed there were words missing.
 
2012-09-27 12:14:31 PM

Citrate1007: TownHall is arguing that the GOP are weak.........the doublethink is starting to mindfark them into oblivion.


This appears to be a common thread the right is pushing. I saw it pop up over at Tales From The Derp Side awhile ago and some Republican being interviewed on NPR yesterday morning repeated it.
 
2012-09-27 12:16:43 PM

thenewmissus: Wow. The republicans are so desperate. I can't wait until the debates. The thread for the debate should be entertaining.


I think the fix is in. Obama has been told by his media masters to go easy on Willard, or maybe even throw in a gaffe or two to get polling a bit closer.
 
2012-09-27 12:16:46 PM

meat0918: Um, Senate rules allow the business of the Senate to be brought to a screeching halt by filing some paperwork then going to the bar.

And this is ok with people?


And the Republicans complain about Unions...
 
2012-09-27 12:18:14 PM
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2012-09-27 12:19:02 PM

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FTFM.
 
2012-09-27 12:20:04 PM

sweetmelissa31: Markoff_Cheney: it is a space demon monster that consumes souls.
or a turtle.

Well the creature on the left is clearly a turtle, but the one on the right- who knows?


It will haunt my nightmares forever.
the turtle i mean.
the other thing resides in dimensions that we cannot comprehend.
 
2012-09-27 12:21:16 PM
What the fark are you yammering on about now subby? *looks at link* Ah... yeah.. *walks away shaking his head*
 
2012-09-27 12:22:54 PM
HMS_Blinkin: Or at least make it so that Senators have to actually, you know, filibuster if they want to stop debate. No more of this "paper filibuster." If you wanna stop big bad Obama that much, you'd better be ready to stand there and talk for 24 hours straight.

wingnut396 What you need to do is actually make them fillibuster. Once the old bags stay up for 48 hours speachifitying the entire time, they may start to change their toon. They will also look more like the idiots they are as the read random crap to fill their time. Unfortunately now all they have to do is say they are going to fillibuster and its all , aw shucks. Well we tried...


THESE. The ability of a single Senator to whisper the magic word "filibuster" and grind everything to a halt is killing our goddamn democracy. I don't get why more people don't understand this.
 
2012-09-27 12:26:37 PM
I clicked a Townhall article from here once, ONCE.

Never again.
 
2012-09-27 12:33:09 PM

Ape_Stone: I clicked a Townhall article from here once, ONCE.

Never again.


Actually, on the derp scale it's only about a 7/10 as compared to their normal 11/10. But I don't think they're making the point they cleverly think they are. The comments on the other hand....
 
2012-09-27 12:34:10 PM

Ape_Stone: I clicked a Townhall article from here once, ONCE.

Never again.


I have written a computer virus that allows Townhall links to chase your mouse pointer around the page to be accidentally clicked.

One day you'll be sorry. One day you'll ALL be sorry!
 
2012-09-27 12:36:54 PM
I'm sure you'll be happy in six weeks when you find out that your guy lost to a "weakling who couldn't even best Mitch McConnell."

Congratulations, your guys is more useless than Mitch McConnell, the Bluegrass Tortoise.
 
2012-09-27 12:48:50 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: Axe the filibuster!


We don't need to axe the filibuster. We just need to turn it back into the floor show it used to be. You want to filibuster? You get on the House or Senate floor, and you keep talking. Wear some depends. And, remember, the moment you yield the floor, your filibuster is over (no tag-teaming). The old-style filibuster can be a handy tool for the Republic. It can really call attention to injustice. The current style of filibuster is an injustice.
 
2012-09-27 12:53:45 PM

Emposter: thenewmissus: Wow. The republicans are so desperate. I can't wait until the debates. The thread for the debate should be entertaining.

You don't seem to understand how this shiat works. The right believes this stuff. They may be idiots (and they are), but they're idiots who BELIEVE. It's not as if when the debates start, and Obama confronts Romney with actual facts to oppose this bullshiat, the right will suddenly realize the truth and come around. The truth's been there the whole time, and they ignore, and they'll keep doing so. They'll listen to Romney and his bullshiat, believe every word, and come out thinking Romney was the clear victor.

Half our country are idiots who live in a state of delusion...and they think it's the other half. (I didn't specify in this last sentence just for you, right wing trolls. Go wild!)


This is always true in debates. In the Reagan/Carter debates, Carter wiped the floor with Reagan--even his own staffers thought Reagan had just lost the election. But audience polls overwhelmingly gave the debate to Reagan. Why? Because one guy was a peanut farmer from Jaw-juh with a thick drawl and folksy ways, and the other was Dutch Reagan, hero of a thousand Westerns. OBVIOUSLY he'd be a better speaker! So that's what they heard.

Now here, we've got two reasonably polished, erudite speakers. But one is a scary black socialist Muslim usurper, and the other is a rich white man who they really really want to win. Mitt could stand up there for two hours drooling, with one finger up his nose and the other hand scratching his balls the whole time, and his followers will STILL think he was a brilliant debater who won every point. His supporters will see what they want to see, and what they want is to see Mitt Romney verbally slay the evil black man.
 
2012-09-27 01:04:33 PM
I'll just leave this here...


As President Barack Obama was celebrating his inauguration at various balls, top Republican lawmakers and strategists were conjuring up ways to submarine his presidency at a private dinner in Washington.

The event -- which provides a telling revelation for how quickly the post-election climate soured -- serves as the prologue of Robert Draper's much-discussed and heavily-reported new book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives."

According to Draper, the guest list that night (which was just over 15 people in total) included Republican Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich, several years removed from his presidential campaign, and Frank Luntz, the long-time Republican wordsmith. Notably absent were Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) -- who, Draper writes, had an acrimonious relationship with Luntz.

For several hours in the Caucus Room (a high-end D.C. establishment), the book says they plotted out ways to not just win back political power, but to also put the brakes on Obama's legislative platform.

"If you act like you're the minority, you're going to stay in the minority," Draper quotes McCarthy as saying. "We've gotta challenge them on every single bill and challenge them on every single campaign."

The conversation got only more specific from there, Draper reports. Kyl suggested going after incoming Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner for failing to pay Social Security and Medicare taxes while at the International Monetary Fund. Gingrich noted that House Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) had a similar tax problem. McCarthy chimed in to declare "there's a web" before arguing that Republicans could put pressure on any Democrat who accepted campaign money from Rangel to give it back.

The dinner lasted nearly four hours. They parted company almost giddily. The Republicans had agreed on a way forward:

Go after Geithner. (And indeed Kyl did, the next day: 'Would you answer my question rather than dancing around it-please?')

Show united and unyielding opposition to the president's economic policies. (Eight days later, Minority Whip Cantor would hold the House Republicans to a unanimous No against Obama's economic stimulus plan.)

Begin attacking vulnerable Democrats on the airwaves. (The first National Republican Congressional Committee attack ads would run in less than two months.)

Win the spear point of the House in 2010. Jab Obama relentlessly in 2011. Win the White House and the Senate in 2012.

"You will remember this day," Draper reports Newt Gingrich as saying on the way out. "You'll remember this as the day the seeds of 2012 were sown."
 

McConnell wasn't at that meeting, but his 2010 quote was just stating GOP policy.
 
2012-09-27 01:06:49 PM

wooden_badger: thenewmissus: Wow. The republicans are so desperate. I can't wait until the debates. The thread for the debate should be entertaining.

I think the fix is in. Obama has been told by his media masters to go easy on Willard, or maybe even throw in a gaffe or two to get polling a bit closer.


I don't think that will be necessary. If Romney avoids ripping a giant fart during the debate, the media will go on and on about his great debate performance and how he bested Obama.
 
2012-09-27 01:09:29 PM
You mean like how Republicans claimed that Barney Frank caused the entire housing crisis?
 
2012-09-27 01:09:32 PM
What an "evil genius" looks like to Townhall:

imageshack.us

Look at that, he's totally thwarting his stupid "mom." Cunning!

/where's my birf certicit, mom?
//prove that you're REALLY my mom!
 
2012-09-27 01:14:11 PM
I think the GOP's strategy of openly operating on the fact that the senate needs a 2/3 majority to do anything was maaaaaybe not the brightest idea in the long term. I've heard even people I'd consider die-hard Republicans in the past openly musing that with a couple more third-partyers or Dems at least the senate could actually do something.

That is not a good sign for the long-term viability of the party. You own guys viewing you as the party of "no" is not gonna end well, there.
 
2012-09-27 01:24:51 PM

Gyrfalcon: Emposter: thenewmissus: Wow. The republicans are so desperate. I can't wait until the debates. The thread for the debate should be entertaining.

You don't seem to understand how this shiat works. The right believes this stuff. They may be idiots (and they are), but they're idiots who BELIEVE. It's not as if when the debates start, and Obama confronts Romney with actual facts to oppose this bullshiat, the right will suddenly realize the truth and come around. The truth's been there the whole time, and they ignore, and they'll keep doing so. They'll listen to Romney and his bullshiat, believe every word, and come out thinking Romney was the clear victor.

Half our country are idiots who live in a state of delusion...and they think it's the other half. (I didn't specify in this last sentence just for you, right wing trolls. Go wild!)

This is always true in debates. In the Reagan/Carter debates, Carter wiped the floor with Reagan--even his own staffers thought Reagan had just lost the election. But audience polls overwhelmingly gave the debate to Reagan. Why? Because one guy was a peanut farmer from Jaw-juh with a thick drawl and folksy ways, and the other was Dutch Reagan, hero of a thousand Westerns. OBVIOUSLY he'd be a better speaker! So that's what they heard.

Now here, we've got two reasonably polished, erudite speakers. But one is a scary black socialist Muslim usurper, and the other is a rich white man who they really really want to win. Mitt could stand up there for two hours drooling, with one finger up his nose and the other hand scratching his balls the whole time, and his followers will STILL think he was a brilliant debater who won every point. His supporters will see what they want to see, and what they want is to see Mitt Romney verbally slay the evil black man.


Yeah, but Mitt's not smart enough to do just that, he'll probably go ahead and both lose his temper, contradict himself a few times and skip the next debates. Frankly, your plan for him makes him look better.
 
2012-09-27 02:54:11 PM

birchman: Ape_Stone: I clicked a Townhall article from here once, ONCE.

Never again.

Actually, on the derp scale it's only about a 7/10 as compared to their normal 11/10. But I don't think they're making the point they cleverly think they are. The comments on the other hand....


TownHall comments are where you find Republicans who aren't smart or rational enough to write a TownHall article.
 
2012-09-27 05:36:34 PM

Mentat: Faddy: Mentat: A Senate attempt to and a Tom Coburn filibuster failed the other day 58-44. With the way the Senate is currently set up, one man can essentially shut down the government.

102 senators? Might want to recheck that vote tally.

58-40. But please, focus on the typo instead of the point being made.


Tee hee... I see what you did there
 
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