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2012-09-27 08:39:40 AM  
Well, then obviously they know her from NTSF:SD:SUV.
 
2012-09-27 08:52:59 AM  

IlGreven: Well, then obviously they know her from NTSF:SD:SUV.


Unless, you know, it's Shabbat.
 
2012-09-27 10:02:42 AM  
The first thing that pops into my head when I see her name is the Simpsons' comic book guy trying to download naked pics of her on dial-up.
 
2012-09-27 10:05:14 AM  
Seriously, subby? I think the general public is more likely to know her as Mrs. Columbo.
 
2012-09-27 10:06:12 AM  
Mulgrew is a decent actress; Voyager's problems were more to do with bad scripts and a lack of consistent characterization than with any fault of hers.
 
2012-09-27 10:07:41 AM  
She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"
 
2012-09-27 10:07:47 AM  

Wellon Dowd: Seriously, subby? I think the general public is more likely to know her as Mrs. Columbo.


I came to make a Mrs. Columbo joke, now can't think of anything to say.
 
2012-09-27 10:12:00 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-27 10:13:49 AM  
I'll check it out on the off chance of Laura Prepon boobage.
 
2012-09-27 10:13:51 AM  

kingoomieiii: She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"


What overacting may look like:
i.ytimg.com
 
2012-09-27 10:18:01 AM  

NeoCortex42: kingoomieiii: She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"

What overacting may look like:
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


Tony Todd auditioned for that role - missed opportunity.


Kate Mulgrew was actually a recast - the original actress (Golden Globe winner and Oscar nominee Genevieve Bujold) wasn't suited for Trek dialogue.

Awkward
 
2012-09-27 10:18:39 AM  
I always think of Janet Eldridge which always made me think (as a youngster) "Sam Malone is too young and attractive to be dating this woman!!"
 
2012-09-27 10:18:55 AM  

NeoCortex42: kingoomieiii: She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"

What overacting may look like:
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


Infinite THIS.

The first 3/4 of that episode was cool, though. The entire cast with no makeup.
And then not-Sisko lost his farking mind.
 
2012-09-27 10:21:58 AM  
she's not a bad actress. she was given crap to work on.
 
2012-09-27 10:26:59 AM  

Snapper Carr: Kate Mulgrew was actually a recast - the original actress (Golden Globe winner and Oscar nominee Genevieve Bujold) wasn't suited for Trek dialogue


www.gogmsite.net

I'd hit decapitate it
 
2012-09-27 10:29:57 AM  
I'm interested to see more Netflix originals. I really liked Lilyhammer. Looking forward to season 2.
 
2012-09-27 10:38:24 AM  

ManateeGag: she's not a bad actress. she was given crap to work on.


I dunno. The only other thing I've seen her in is Warehouse 13, and she's crap in that, too.
 
2012-09-27 10:40:50 AM  

Fish in a Barrel: I dunno. The only other thing I've seen her in is Warehouse 13, and she's crap in that, too.


Which is no way refutes the original poster's point.
 
2012-09-27 10:41:21 AM  
Never really watched Voyager. But I'd I'd have sex with her if that means anything.
 
2012-09-27 10:41:39 AM  

Fish in a Barrel: ManateeGag: she's not a bad actress. she was given crap to work on.

I dunno. The only other thing I've seen her in is Warehouse 13, and she's crap in that, too.


"I dunno if it was just bad scripting, guys. Check out this Sci-Fi Original Series she's also on."

upload.wikimedia.org

Okay
 
2012-09-27 10:41:53 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: I'm interested to see more Netflix originals. I really liked Lilyhammer. Looking forward to season 2.



Be sure and watch Glick Doesn't Do Red Carpet on Netflix.
 
2012-09-27 10:42:04 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: I really liked Lilyhammer. Looking forward to season 2.


I really wanted to see steve van zandt speak norweigan with that goombah accent. His character clearly understands the language really well; why does he talk english to everyone?
 
2012-09-27 10:44:55 AM  

abhorrent1: Never really watched Voyager. But I'd I'd have sex with her if that means anything.


You're horny and your standards are low?
 
2012-09-27 10:52:08 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Never really watched Voyager. But I'd I'd have sex with her if that means anything.

You're horny and your standards are low?


Voyager Season 2. Janeway... with Kes's voice. Do you?

WAIT I JUST TYPED THAT INTO THE INTERNET
WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE
 
2012-09-27 10:54:26 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Never really watched Voyager. But I'd I'd have sex with her if that means anything.

You're horny and your standards are low?


Oh c'mon. She's no Charlize Theron but she's not exactly Steve Buscemi either.
 
2012-09-27 10:55:37 AM  

kingoomieiii: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Never really watched Voyager. But I'd I'd have sex with her if that means anything.

You're horny and your standards are low?

Voyager Season 2. Janeway... with Kes's voice. Do you?

WAIT I JUST TYPED THAT INTO THE INTERNET
WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE


I thought the two-packs-a-day washed down with 151 voice was part of the appeal.
 
2012-09-27 10:56:10 AM  

Wellon Dowd: Seriously, subby? I think the general public is more likely to know her as Mrs. Columbo.


Maybe the 50-years-and-older contingent of the general public.
 
2012-09-27 10:56:34 AM  
I dunno, I kind of liked Voyager. After the fourth season or so anyway. Although Seven of Nine ended up being the most interesting character. But it's not like all the other shows didn't have useless characters.
 
2012-09-27 11:00:33 AM  

Snapper Carr: NeoCortex42: kingoomieiii: She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"

What overacting may look like:
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

Tony Todd auditioned for that role - missed opportunity.


Siddig el Fadil, (or Alexander Siddig, or Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi, or whatever he calls himself these days) was the original actor considered for the Sisko role - dodged a bullet there.
 
2012-09-27 11:06:48 AM  

puckrock2000: Snapper Carr: NeoCortex42: kingoomieiii: She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"

What overacting may look like:
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

Tony Todd auditioned for that role - missed opportunity.


Siddig el Fadil, (or Alexander Siddig, or Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi, or whatever he calls himself these days) was the original actor considered for the Sisko role - dodged a bullet there.


Yeah, but the slashfic with O'Brien would have taken on a completely different tone.

Ooh, what if Avery Brooks had been the Doctor? Can you imagine the O'Brien/strong, black, bald Doctor slashfic?
 
2012-09-27 11:10:15 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: I'm interested to see more Netflix originals. I really liked Lilyhammer. Looking forward to season 2.


I've only seen the first episode of Lillyhammer and I need to buckle down and watch the rest. Really intriguing stuff there.
 
2012-09-27 11:21:06 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Ooh, what if Avery Brooks had been the Doctor? Can you imagine the O'Brien/strong, black, bald Doctor slashfic?


I liked Bashir better before he became superboy. When they wrote that in, they started writing him as a tortured, misunderstood genius.
 
2012-09-27 11:21:42 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: I thought the two-packs-a-day washed down with 151 voice was part of the appeal.


It is not.
 
2012-09-27 11:26:15 AM  

NeoCortex42: kingoomieiii: She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"

What overacting may look like:
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


I've never seen a supposed "bad ass" whine more in all my TV life.

Sisko was a bio-terrorist and a murderer. He was my favorite Captain when i remember watching these shows as a kid. Now that I have finished TOS, TNG and am on the Final 10 episodes of DS9, not so sure. I just don't see Kirk being willing to launch bio-chemicals to prove a point. I could see him getting in league with Garrick though.

I am sure he'll be #3 by default when I finish with Voyager and Enterprise.
 
2012-09-27 11:28:11 AM  

kingoomieiii: FirstNationalBastard: Ooh, what if Avery Brooks had been the Doctor? Can you imagine the O'Brien/strong, black, bald Doctor slashfic?

I liked Bashir better before he became superboy. When they wrote that in, they started writing him as a tortured, misunderstood genius.


I still think the main character that got shortchanged the most was Dax. The show just didn't really seem to have much of a use for her beyond decoration and pairing her with Worf. The only great Dax episode I can think of is the one where Ezri has to track down the sniper. Every other main character has a good handful of standout episodes.
 
2012-09-27 11:31:33 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul:

Sisko was a bio-terrorist and a murderer. He was my favorite Captain when i remember watching these shows as a kid. Now that I have finished TOS, TNG and am on the Final 10 episodes of DS9, not so sure. I just don't see Kirk being willing to launch bio-chemicals to prove a point. I could see him getting in league with Garrick though.

I am sure he'll be #3 by default when I finish with Voyager and Enterprise.


I don't know if Kirk wouldn't have acted similarly under a lot of those situations. One thing I'll give Sisko credit for is his attempts to understand and respect other cultures, especially as he got sucked further into the Bajoran religion.

Kirk had a habit of destroying any civilization that didn't live up to his ideals of paradise and lecture them on it. For a perfect example of this, watch his speech at the end of The Apple. It boils down to "Your paradise sucks. You should be more like us."
 
2012-09-27 11:32:37 AM  

NeoCortex42: The only great Dax episode I can think of is the one where Ezri has to track down the sniper. Every other main character has a good handful of standout episodes.


I liked the one with the TOS Klingons (Blood Oath)
 
2012-09-27 11:35:23 AM  

Snapper Carr: NeoCortex42: The only great Dax episode I can think of is the one where Ezri has to track down the sniper. Every other main character has a good handful of standout episodes.

I liked the one with the TOS Klingons (Blood Oath)


Even then, it was a great showcase for the TOS Klingons and was primarily about them. Dax was simply a way to get the plot rolling.

I'm currently nearing the end of season one on another re-watch. Even the episode "Dax" has her almost completely sidelined for the majority of the plot, while the rest of the characters argue on her behalf and try to fix things.
 
2012-09-27 11:40:18 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Sisko was a bio-terrorist and a murderer. He was my favorite Captain when i remember watching these shows as a kid. Now that I have finished TOS, TNG and am on the Final 10 episodes of DS9, not so sure. I just don't see Kirk being willing to launch bio-chemicals to prove a point. I could see him getting in league with Garrick though.

I am sure he'll be #3 by default when I finish with Voyager and Enterprise.


Well Picard was never in the sort of predicaments that Sisko had to deal with. And the one time Picard was faced with an ethically questionable decision (to eradicate the Borg once and for all), he dropped the ball, costing countless billions of lives. So fark Picard, team Sisko FTW.
 
2012-09-27 11:52:18 AM  

abhorrent1: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Never really watched Voyager. But I'd I'd have sex with her if that means anything.

You're horny and your standards are low?

Oh c'mon. She's no Charlize Theron but she's not exactly Steve Buscemi either.


i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-27 11:53:49 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Never really watched Voyager. But I'd I'd have sex with her if that means anything.

You're horny and your standards are low?

Oh c'mon. She's no Charlize Theron but she's not exactly Steve Buscemi either.

[i49.tinypic.com image 600x449]


GAH! Why would you DO something like that?
 
2012-09-27 12:17:32 PM  

NeoCortex42: Jim from Saint Paul:

Sisko was a bio-terrorist and a murderer. He was my favorite Captain when i remember watching these shows as a kid. Now that I have finished TOS, TNG and am on the Final 10 episodes of DS9, not so sure. I just don't see Kirk being willing to launch bio-chemicals to prove a point. I could see him getting in league with Garrick though.

I am sure he'll be #3 by default when I finish with Voyager and Enterprise.

I don't know if Kirk wouldn't have acted similarly under a lot of those situations. One thing I'll give Sisko credit for is his attempts to understand and respect other cultures, especially as he got sucked further into the Bajoran religion.

Kirk had a habit of destroying any civilization that didn't live up to his ideals of paradise and lecture them on it. For a perfect example of this, watch his speech at the end of The Apple. It boils down to "Your paradise sucks. You should be more like us."


Yeah, but he taught me how to kiss a girl.
 
2012-09-27 12:23:03 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Never really watched Voyager. But I'd I'd have sex with her if that means anything.

You're horny and your standards are low?

Oh c'mon. She's no Charlize Theron but she's not exactly Steve Buscemi either.

[i49.tinypic.com image 600x449]


And somewhere, in an alternate universe, Abe Vigoda's Ghost uses his powers for good, not evil.
 
2012-09-27 12:43:32 PM  
Voyager was really patchy, but I thought Mulgrew put in a very good performance. She played the character just like some serious-minded, senior women executives I've met.

The rest of the cast were awful, except for Robert Picardo as the Doctor, and I probably have to credit Ethan Phillips as Neelix because he did that character well, despite the fact that I'd rather that Neelix had been taken into the Borg.
 
2012-09-27 12:51:08 PM  
Ethan Phillips' character from Benson was not so great on Voyager. It's understandable why they gave him a shot, though, because René Auberjonois' character from Bensen was pretty good on DS9.
 
2012-09-27 01:07:53 PM  
Oh, c'mon, Kate Mulgrew was great in Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins!

www.totallykate.com

Featuring Fred Ward as an action hero who wears sweat pants! Joel Grey as the most racist Asian stereotype since Mickey Rooney! And Wilford Brimley as a government assassin! Should've been a franchise.
 
2012-09-27 01:13:34 PM  

kingoomieiii: NeoCortex42: kingoomieiii: She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"

What overacting may look like:
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

Infinite THIS.

The first 3/4 of that episode was cool, though. The entire cast with no makeup.
And then not-Sisko lost his farking mind.


I never really understood Sisko's obsession with 20th century racism. By his time, it's as far removed from him as we are from 16th century social issues, and clearly Trek history that follows is far, far bleaker. Compared to what preceded it (slavery) and what apparently follows (nuclear war, wholesale genocide) it seems like a rather odd obsession.
 
2012-09-27 01:29:13 PM  

phyrkrakr: Oh, c'mon, Kate Mulgrew was great in Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins!

[www.totallykate.com image 300x229]

Featuring Fred Ward as an action hero who wears sweat pants! Joel Grey as the most racist Asian stereotype since Mickey Rooney! And Wilford Brimley as a government assassin! Should've been a franchise.


And how would Wilford Brimley kill someone?
 
2012-09-27 01:35:58 PM  

Eirik:
I never really understood Sisko's obsession with 20th century racism. By his time, it's as far removed from him as we are from 16th century social issues, and clearly Trek history that follows is far, far bleaker. Compared to what preceded it (slavery) and what apparently follows (nuclear war, wholesale genocide) it seems like a rather odd obsession.


i3.ytimg.com
 
2012-09-27 01:41:52 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: phyrkrakr: Oh, c'mon, Kate Mulgrew was great in Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins!

[www.totallykate.com image 300x229]

Featuring Fred Ward as an action hero who wears sweat pants! Joel Grey as the most racist Asian stereotype since Mickey Rooney! And Wilford Brimley as a government assassin! Should've been a franchise.

And how would Wilford Brimley kill someone?


A syringe full of insulin.
 
2012-09-27 02:01:13 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Jim from Saint Paul: phyrkrakr: Oh, c'mon, Kate Mulgrew was great in Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins!

[www.totallykate.com image 300x229]

Featuring Fred Ward as an action hero who wears sweat pants! Joel Grey as the most racist Asian stereotype since Mickey Rooney! And Wilford Brimley as a government assassin! Should've been a franchise.

And how would Wilford Brimley kill someone?

A syringe full of insulin.


The correct answer was "Die-a-beetus".
 
2012-09-27 02:05:02 PM  

farkeruk: Voyager was really patchy, but I thought Mulgrew put in a very good performance. She played the character just like some serious-minded, senior women executives I've met.

The rest of the cast were awful, except for Robert Picardo as the Doctor


I thought Jeri Ryan was great. And not just because of...those.
 
2012-09-27 02:10:26 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Never really watched Voyager. But I'd I'd have sex with her if that means anything.

You're horny and your standards are low?

Oh c'mon. She's no Charlize Theron but she's not exactly Steve Buscemi either.

[i49.tinypic.com image 600x449]


t1.gstatic.com
 
2012-09-27 02:18:39 PM  

Mugato: farkeruk: Voyager was really patchy, but I thought Mulgrew put in a very good performance. She played the character just like some serious-minded, senior women executives I've met.

The rest of the cast were awful, except for Robert Picardo as the Doctor

I thought Jeri Ryan was great. And not just because of...those.


I think most of the cast was fine (aside from Chakotay, who simply didn't care). The biggest problem with Voyager was the writing. The characters were written very inconsistently. And you can't blame Kate Mulgrew for Janeway going through shuttles on a weekly basis.
 
2012-09-27 03:00:04 PM  
The best part of Voyager was the fanfiction written for Janeway/Seven.

There was a website that had a 25 to 30 "episode" story about them. It was the first time I was just as interested at fapping to something as knowing what would happen in the non-fapping parts.

Thank you Paramount.
 
2012-09-27 03:40:32 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: It was the first time I was just as interested at fapping to something as knowing what would happen in the non-fapping parts.


Hah, I found one of those, too. It was about a gi ***NO CARRIER***
 
2012-09-27 05:34:39 PM  

NeoCortex42: Mugato: farkeruk: Voyager was really patchy, but I thought Mulgrew put in a very good performance. She played the character just like some serious-minded, senior women executives I've met.

The rest of the cast were awful, except for Robert Picardo as the Doctor

I thought Jeri Ryan was great. And not just because of...those.

I think most of the cast was fine (aside from Chakotay, who simply didn't care). The biggest problem with Voyager was the writing. The characters were written very inconsistently. And you can't blame Kate Mulgrew for Janeway going through shuttles on a weekly basis.


Chakotay should have grown a beard. When a Commander doesnt have a beard, the show sucks.

www.overthinkingit.com

farm4.static.flickr.com

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-09-27 05:47:27 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: IlGreven: Well, then obviously they know her from NTSF:SD:SUV.

Unless, you know, it's Shabbat.


True, but Downton Abbey still sucks.
 
2012-09-27 06:12:15 PM  
I once heard her described as muppet-voiced. Now I giggle every time I hear her. Voyager is even more ruined for me now.
 
2012-09-27 06:43:04 PM  

Cyno01: NeoCortex42: Mugato: farkeruk: Voyager was really patchy, but I thought Mulgrew put in a very good performance. She played the character just like some serious-minded, senior women executives I've met.

The rest of the cast were awful, except for Robert Picardo as the Doctor

I thought Jeri Ryan was great. And not just because of...those.

I think most of the cast was fine (aside from Chakotay, who simply didn't care). The biggest problem with Voyager was the writing. The characters were written very inconsistently. And you can't blame Kate Mulgrew for Janeway going through shuttles on a weekly basis.

Chakotay should have grown a beard. When a Commander doesnt have a beard, the show sucks.

[www.overthinkingit.com image 330x201]

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 500x186]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x303]


Major Kira never had a beard.

/thank the prophets!
 
2012-09-27 06:46:42 PM  
Janeway was not the problem with Voyager.
The writing was the problem with Voyager.

/used to hate on Janeway
//then I watched all the episodes on Netflix
///Admiral Janeway would have keelhauled Queenbiatch Changeling
/Voyager writing still sucked
 
2012-09-27 06:50:28 PM  

NeoCortex42: kingoomieiii: She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"

What overacting may look like:
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


I liked that episode :(
It was the dream deferred in one lifetime
which Jake (whom I also liked)
was able to refresh and
cause to bloom in two lifetimes
through his epic novel 'Anselem'.
 
2012-09-27 06:52:42 PM  

Snapper Carr: NeoCortex42: kingoomieiii: She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"

What overacting may look like:
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

Tony Todd auditioned for that role - missed opportunity.


Kate Mulgrew was actually a recast - the original actress (Golden Globe winner and Oscar nominee Genevieve Bujold) wasn't suited for Trek dialogue.

Awkward



The Candyman did exceptionally well as Jake in The Visitor, though.
It was beautiful television, not just beautiful sci-fi or beautiful Trek.
Why don't we see more of him on TV?
 
2012-09-27 06:57:25 PM  

kingoomieiii: NeoCortex42: kingoomieiii: She's, like, second or third in terms of Star Trek commanding officers.

By the way, for all the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."

"JAKE! GOD-DAMNIT, JAKE! GO! TO! BED!" *Breaks down weeping* "I NEED YOUR HELP, OLD MAN"

What overacting may look like:
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Infinite THIS.

The first 3/4 of that episode was cool, though. The entire cast with no makeup.
And then not-Sisko lost his farking mind.


He had written a damned good story
and was told that it wasn't worthy of publishing
because........ his skin was the wrong color.
It had nothing to do with the worth of the story.

That Trek episode was an attempt at explaining
real life, and just how fking groundbreaking sci-fi
used to be, socially, as well as how groundbreaking
Star Trek itself was, to take the chances it did in a time
when a certain episode was banned in the South.

Kira's counterpart, who was also a crack sci-fi writer,
had to go through the same shiat. And it hurt both her
and Sisko's counterparts.

Yet here they are, in the future, the 'real' timeline,
and nobody has shiat to say against them being
world saviors, heads of resistence, fighters,
leaders. They are, they earned it, and merit got them
to where they are. Kira and Sisko win in the end, because of
the sacrifices made and in spite of the injustices
suffered by their counterparts in the true 'real' world.
 
2012-09-27 07:01:30 PM  

puckrock2000:

Siddig el Fadil, (or Alexander Siddig, or Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi, or whatever he calls himself these days) was the original actor considered for the Sisko role - dodged a bullet there.


Speaking of, if I remember correctly a couple of the earliest episodes had the Muslim name, then it got Christenized. Was that a personal choice,
or did the networks tell him he had to make his name Christian for the credits?
 
2012-09-27 07:18:29 PM  

LDM90: I once heard her described as muppet-voiced. Now I giggle every time I hear her. Voyager is even more ruined for me now.


To me it just sounded like she guzzled a lot of coffee and cigarettes in between takes. Maybe shoved a bottle brush down her throat. every once in a while.
 
2012-09-27 08:17:21 PM  

Mugato: LDM90: I once heard her described as muppet-voiced. Now I giggle every time I hear her. Voyager is even more ruined for me now.

To me it just sounded like she guzzled a lot of coffee and cigarettes in between takes. Maybe shoved a bottle brush down her throat. every once in a while.


Did you know:

Talaxian Cock is very much like a bottle brush.
 
2012-09-27 08:39:56 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Did you know:

Talaxian Cock is very much like a bottle brush.


Your mother tell you everything.

I keed, keed!

Mulgrew, repped by Innovative and Viking Entertainment

What an odd non-sequiter to mention who her agent is. I guess it's a pretty good agent since she's almost the only Trek alum with a gig.
 
2012-09-27 08:44:21 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: puckrock2000:

Siddig el Fadil, (or Alexander Siddig, or Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi, or whatever he calls himself these days) was the original actor considered for the Sisko role - dodged a bullet there.

Speaking of, if I remember correctly a couple of the earliest episodes had the Muslim name, then it got Christenized. Was that a personal choice,
or did the networks tell him he had to make his name Christian for the credits?


Probably wasn't the network. Likely a SAG thing.
 
2012-09-27 08:49:48 PM  

kingoomieiii: ExperianScaresCthulhu: puckrock2000:

Siddig el Fadil, (or Alexander Siddig, or Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi, or whatever he calls himself these days) was the original actor considered for the Sisko role - dodged a bullet there.

Speaking of, if I remember correctly a couple of the earliest episodes had the Muslim name, then it got Christenized. Was that a personal choice,
or did the networks tell him he had to make his name Christian for the credits?

Probably wasn't the network. Likely a SAG thing.


Well, DS9 didn't have a network to begin with.

Second, he was Siddig el Fadil for three seasons.

Third, he explained in interviews that he changed his professional name because he was tired of hearing people butchering the pronunciation.

You'll also notice that when he directed DS9 in the later seasons, he was still credited as Siddig el Fadil.
 
2012-09-27 10:17:02 PM  

abhorrent1: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: abhorrent1: Never really watched Voyager. But I'd I'd have sex with her if that means anything.

You're horny and your standards are low?

Oh c'mon. She's no Charlize Theron but she's not exactly Steve Buscemi either.


I know folks are going to look at me funny the way they looked at me funny when I mentioned it in the last Trek thread, but Mulgrew was kinda hot in those days. Torres, Kes and 7 of Tits when she showed up were hotter, but still she was attractive. I don't care what you farkers say.

Yes the writing was bad in some areas, but not as bad as some seem to remember.
 
2012-09-28 01:13:11 AM  

kingoomieiii: l the mocking Shatner gets for his ridiculous over-emoting, why doesn't Avery Brooks ever come up? Whenever the guy has a monologue he treats it like he's doing a one-man stage show. And not just on DS9, either. You'd think after, like, the pilot, the director would be like "Hey, Avery, you don't need to project like that. You're miked. This is... TV."


Avery Brooks insisted everyone call him Mr. Brooks on and off set. I don't think he takes criticism well, being a giant douche.

/did enjoy how when his character had a speech it sounded like the words...trying....to...escape..
 
2012-09-28 01:20:37 AM  
Meanwhile, somewhere near San Diego, there are two guys waiting patiently for Netflix to give them a call........
cdn.uproxx.com
 
2012-09-28 09:57:08 AM  
Wow, a Sisko hate-a-thon. Interesting.
 
2012-09-29 09:56:04 AM  

phyrkrakr: Oh, c'mon, Kate Mulgrew was great in Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins!

[www.totallykate.com image 300x229]

Featuring Fred Ward as an action hero who wears sweat pants! Joel Grey as the most racist Asian stereotype since Mickey Rooney! And Wilford Brimley as a government assassin! Should've been a franchise.


There is a pilot ep out there for a Remo Williams TV show. Joel Gray was the only crossover.

The movie was based on the "Destroyer" series of pulp fiction novels.
 
2012-09-29 10:15:06 AM  

KarLorian: phyrkrakr: Oh, c'mon, Kate Mulgrew was great in Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins!

[www.totallykate.com image 300x229]

Featuring Fred Ward as an action hero who wears sweat pants! Joel Grey as the most racist Asian stereotype since Mickey Rooney! And Wilford Brimley as a government assassin! Should've been a franchise.

There is a pilot ep out there for a Remo Williams TV show. Joel Gray was the only crossover.

The movie was based on the "Destroyer" series of pulp fiction novels.


Oops, sorry. Looks like it was Roddy McDowall in the TV show...

I found a link(pops) to the opening of the pilot.
 
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