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2012-09-27 09:55:17 AM  
*eyeroll*
 
2012-09-27 09:58:47 AM  
graphics8.nytimes.com

I'm glad Republicans are so concerned NOW about what is morally right and wrong.
 
2012-09-27 10:08:13 AM  
Jackie Gingrich Cushman

To quote the sage Farker, "The potato doesn't fall far from the tree."
 
2012-09-27 10:15:33 AM  
"Free enterprise," he said, "has done more to bless humanity than any other economic system not only because it is the only system that creates a prosperous middle class, but also because it is the only system where the individual enjoys the freedom to guide and build his or her own life. Free enterprise cannot only make us better off financially, it can make us better people."

yes, that's certainly true...but the Republicans don't believe in free enterprise nor do any of their stated policies encourage economic growth. In fact, the GOP is also not too fond of 'freedom', given their war on women and their authoritarian support of an insane/out of control war on drugs. then there's the GOP social agenda, which is based on a repulsive theology that says god makes people poor and that they should STAY poor because it's 'god's will' that they should remain in poverty.

i'm sorry but...I cannot believe the Republicans are in any way 'moral'. they've started wars, lie constantly, and their leadership is filled with people who've had multiple divorces, drug problems, and laundry list of various/sundry quasi-criminal activities. they do no live morally pure lives.
 
2012-09-27 10:17:50 AM  
Give a man a fish, he's on welfare and is lazy. Teach a man to fish, he better be able to farking pay you for that lesson or he should be in debt for decades after he tries to start fishing.
 
2012-09-27 10:20:43 AM  
Yes. Being a Center-Right moderate is morally wrong.

/This is what short bus morons actually believe.
 
2012-09-27 10:21:02 AM  

Save yourself the click:

The Obama administration's policies are bad. Bad in the sense that the policies are morally corrupting. They take money and control away from people and give them to government bureaucrats, who then decide what should be done. The policies encourage people to be less responsible personally and to rely more on the government.

Former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher argued that "socialism itself -- in all its incarnations, wherever and however it was applied -- was morally corrupting," Claire Berlinski wrote in "There Is No Alternative: Why Margaret Thatcher Matters" (Basic Books, 2008). "Socialism turned good citizens into bad ones; it turned strong nations into weak ones; it promoted vice and discouraged virtue ... transformed formerly hardworking and self-reliant men and women into whining, weak and flabby loafers."

Sound familiar?

Republicans are currently debating the surface arguments about the Obama administration's programs -- they cost too much, they are not paid for and there is too much government intervention.

The core of the matter is the same today as it was in Great Britain in the 1970s.

The system President Obama is championing is morally wrong.

In order to win in November, Republican nominee Mitt Romney must win the argument, and thereby win the vote.

The argument is that the system Obama is promoting is bad and that it creates a weak society. Romney needs to articulate what it is to be an American; why we must defend America's core values; why they are good values.

Romney's speech this week at the Clinton Global Initiative reverberated with these themes.

He talked about "the incomparable dignity of work."

"Free enterprise," he said, "has done more to bless humanity than any other economic system not only because it is the only system that creates a prosperous middle class, but also because it is the only system where the individual enjoys the freedom to guide and build his or her own life. Free enterprise cannot only make us better off financially, it can make us better people."

Romney recounted the story of Muhammed Bouazizi of Tunisia. "He was just 26 years old. He had provided for his family since he was a young boy. He worked a small fruit stand, selling to passers-by. The regular harassment by corrupt bureaucrats was elevated one day when they took crates of his fruit and his weighing scales away from him.

"On the day of his protest, witnesses say that an officer slapped Bouazizi and he cried out: 'Why are you doing this to me? I'm a simple person, and I just want to work.'"

"I just want to work," Romney repeated.

"Work. That must be at the heart of our effort to help people build economies that can create jobs for people, young and old alike. Work builds self-esteem," he continued. "It transforms minds from fantasy and fanaticism to reality and grounding. Work will not long tolerate corruption nor quietly endure the brazen theft by government of the product of hardworking men and women."

He linked free enterprise to freedom. "The most successful countries shared something in common," he said. "They were the freest. They protected the rights of the individual. They enforced the rule of law. And they encouraged free enterprise. They understood that economic freedom is the only force in history that has consistently lifted people out of poverty -- and kept people out of poverty."

The next step is for Romney to lay out this argument not only for other countries, but for our own. It works here as well as abroad. There are 12.5 million unemployed Americans; 8 million more are working part-time when they want to work full time; 2.6 million people are so discouraged that they have given up looking for work and are no longer counted as unemployed.

More than 23 million Americans understand the statement, "I just want to work."

These people and those around them understand that there is great dignity in work, and want to work -- but cannot find a job.

In order to win the vote in November, we must first win the argument. America works best when Americans are working. The way to get more Americans to work is to promote freedom, ingenuity and free enterprise. While government programs and subsidies might provide temporary relief, the only proven way to long-term prosperity is to create more jobs, thereby allowing people to lift themselves up, providing not only their monetary needs, but also dignity of purpose.

-Jackie Gingrich Cushman
 
2012-09-27 10:21:13 AM  
These are the guys who get their morals from the great prophet Ayn Rand, right?
 
2012-09-27 10:23:30 AM  
Townhall: The top site for those who think that eating their own shiat is too intellectual and elitist.
 
2012-09-27 10:23:39 AM  
Once again, another fantastic article from the visionaries at Town Hall.

And once again, liberals, lashing out at that which they lack the intelligence to comprehend.
 
2012-09-27 10:24:27 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: These are the guys who get their morals from the great prophet Ayn Rand, right?


weirdly enough, yes. And they also state that there is no moral contradiction between Jesus Christ and the beliefs of Ayn Rand.

go ahead and try to make sense of that. I double dog dare you.
 
2012-09-27 10:24:32 AM  
"Fark you, I got mine" is the most concise statement of conservative moral values.
 
2012-09-27 10:25:21 AM  
According to this, Slavery is morally acceptable as long as the government isn't involved with the transaction
 
2012-09-27 10:25:23 AM  
What an immoral system looks like:

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-27 10:25:43 AM  
They take money and control away from people and give them to government bureaucrats, who then decide what should be done.

Thank goodness Republicans don't do this.

*rollseyes*
 
2012-09-27 10:26:16 AM  
Well if anyone would know about being morally wrong...
 
2012-09-27 10:27:38 AM  
The Obama administration's policies are bad.


Go on......
 
2012-09-27 10:27:57 AM  

Weaver95: Pants full of macaroni!!: These are the guys who get their morals from the great prophet Ayn Rand, right?

weirdly enough, yes. And they also state that there is no moral contradiction between Jesus Christ and the beliefs of Ayn Rand.

go ahead and try to make sense of that. I double dog dare you.


No.

If I can figure it out, I might become one of them.

That would be a fate worse than death.
 
2012-09-27 10:28:10 AM  
Because of some aphorism that has-been Margaret Thatcher said? F*ck's sake, even SHE knew better than to fight single-payer healthcare.
 
2012-09-27 10:28:25 AM  
Yes, I can see how attempting to ensure all Americans have adequate health care is completely immoral, and I don't understand how anyone can even think that Jesus would stand for such a thing! Wanting to help your fellow people in your society to be healthy and not die horrible agonizing death is surely something that will have you sent straight to hell!

Same with any program that might help the poor. How could you even live with yourself for such immoral thoughts!

Ensuring education is available for your people? Well, that's just for liberal satanists! Education makes you question things...like religious dogma...that is VERY immoral.

What is wrong with you people!?
 
2012-09-27 10:28:38 AM  
Jackie Gingrich?

Isn't the daughter from Newt's first marriage who Newt used to try to shut up his second wife when she talked trash about his third wife?

And what her point?

The morality argument must be made?

Oh, I quite agree.

All politics is morality at the end of the day and the GOP simply have no defense for their rampant immorality.

This "fark over the poor and middle class to further enrich the 1%" thing they have going on is the very antithesis of Christianity's Golden Rule.

The GOP have been going morally bankrupt for decades now. 

More people need to note this fact.
 
2012-09-27 10:28:55 AM  
There you go, Cons. You can rest your head after an election night's worth of crying knowing your guy morally won the election.
 
2012-09-27 10:29:08 AM  
And Republicans, is the US government an alien entity set down to lord over us, or is it government of the people, for the people, by the people?
 
2012-09-27 10:29:49 AM  
In order to win in November, Republican nominee Mitt Romney must win the argument, and thereby win the vote.


Most indeededly......
 
2012-09-27 10:30:32 AM  
Your daily TownHall article on Fark.
 
2012-09-27 10:31:39 AM  
I can see how having the self-serving Washington bureaucrats in control of everything is just so morally inferior to having the greedy, self-serving rich in control of everything.

/eye-roll so deep, my testicles roll too/
 
2012-09-27 10:32:14 AM  
Not to mention it's just another tirade at an empty chair.

OBAMA, Y U NO WANT PEOPLE TO WORK?
Y U WANT EVRY1 ON WELFARE?

Yes, Obama wants everyone to sit at home and collect welfare checks.
 
2012-09-27 10:32:37 AM  
"In order to win the vote in November, we must first win the argument. America works best when Americans are working. The way to get more Americans to work is to promote freedom, ingenuity and free enterprise. While government programs and subsidies might provide temporary relief, the only proven way to long-term prosperity is to create more jobs, thereby allowing people to lift themselves up, providing not only their monetary needs, but also dignity of purpose."

So are people just going to create their own jobs, or will they have those jobs given to them by some sort of job-creator, someone else like a rich man or the government?
 
2012-09-27 10:33:12 AM  
The only moral solution is to let the poors die in the street. After all, the current high unemployment rate is only a result of lazy people wanting to stay home and nibble at the government teat. Maybe pinch it a little.
 
2012-09-27 10:34:05 AM  

sprawl15: Romney recounted the story of Muhammed Bouazizi of Tunisia


It is farking disgusting that Romney would use the tragic story of that poor man as some sort of indictment of Obama's policies.
 
2012-09-27 10:34:15 AM  
The guys at Townhall really have a knack for hiring the intellectual heavyweights, eh?
 
2012-09-27 10:35:04 AM  
The opening paragraph literally reads like it was written by a 9th grader after they actually did an outline.

I-Obama policy bad
a- bad morally
b- socialist-define socialism
c socialism makes people lazy

This turns into

The Obama administration's policies are bad. Bad in the sense that the policies are morally corrupting. They take money and control away from people and give them to government bureaucrats, who then decide what should be done. The policies encourage people to be less responsible personally and to rely more on the government.

It isn't enough her opinions are built on a foundation of derp and bad logic, she can't even drag herself to write them down better than some 'How I Spent my Summer Vacation Hating Socialism' type thing? It wasn't enough for the author to reveal the average stupidity of her target audience with this crap ,but her own stupidity as well. Even if one chooses to write stupid stuff, they should still try to write it well. I just did!
 
2012-09-27 10:35:08 AM  
TFA called taxes "socialist". That right there is why all of mainstream Republican "thought" is utterly without merit, now and forever.

"Socialist"? Please. By mainstream Republican standards (as exemplified by TownHall, Free Republic, American Thinker, StormFront, Breitbart, Fox News, et al), the only country in the world that is NOT socialist is the Republican paradise of Somalia.
 
2012-09-27 10:35:25 AM  
More KKKrap from KKKlownhall, brought to you by FarKKK.com.
 
2012-09-27 10:36:33 AM  
THE EIGHT BEATITUDES OF JESUS

"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Gospel of St. Matthew 5:3-10
 
2012-09-27 10:36:46 AM  
There's a commercial where Romney says that he wants people to get good, high-paying jobs.

No he doesn't. He wants people to work below current minimum wage without regulations to protect their health and welfare, and if they will not, he wants the freedom to ship all of their jobs to China. That is the only way that the truly virtuous, the Job-Creators, can receive their just deserts.
 
2012-09-27 10:37:36 AM  
j.wigflip.com
 
2012-09-27 10:38:01 AM  

cubic_spleen: TFA called taxes "socialist". That right there is why all of mainstream Republican "thought" is utterly without merit, now and forever.

"Socialist"? Please. By mainstream Republican standards (as exemplified by TownHall, Free Republic, American Thinker, StormFront, Breitbart, Fox News, et al), the only country in the world that is NOT socialist is the Republican paradise of Somalia.


The key is that the attempt tp classify "socialist" as a dirty word has warped their minds. Government is an intrinsically socialist institution - Man cannot live as a civilized being without "socialism".
 
2012-09-27 10:39:15 AM  
"They take money and control away from people and give them to government bureaucrats, who then decide what should be done." ~FTFA

Which is different from any government, ever, how again?
 
2012-09-27 10:39:29 AM  

sprawl15: "On the day of his protest, witnesses say that an officer slapped Bouazizi and he cried out: 'Why are you doing this to me? I'm a simple person, and I just want to work.'"

"I just want to work," Romney repeated.

...

More than 23 million Americans understand the statement, "I just want to work."


Yes, 23 million Americans are out of work because OBAMA wouldn't let them set up fruit stands, not because bankers took all their money and nobody can afford any fruit.
 
2012-09-27 10:39:31 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Once again, another fantastic article from the visionaries at Town Hall.

And once again, liberals, lashing out at that which they lack the intelligence to comprehend.


Visionary? Really? "Romney needs to win the argument that we need to get more people back to work". That's about as visionary as saying you'll get wet if you go out in the rain without an umbrella/rain coat.

It is really a shame that listening to shallow platitudes serve as valid points of arguments for conservatives. There wasn't one damned thing of substance in TFA and it is embarrassing for you to consider it 'visionary'.
 
2012-09-27 10:40:05 AM  

Diogenes: THE EIGHT BEATITUDES OF JESUS


Sorry, you lost me there. Nowhere in the bible does it say, "When Jesus' workday was ended..." He is literally the deity of the moochers.
 
2012-09-27 10:40:11 AM  

crab66: The Obama administration's policies are bad.


Go on......


Well, obviously they should feel bad.
 
2012-09-27 10:40:58 AM  

theknuckler_33: sprawl15: Romney recounted the story of Muhammed Bouazizi of Tunisia

It is farking disgusting that Romney would use the tragic story of that poor man as some sort of indictment of Obama's policies.


Well, Obama didn't personally stop that government worker from taking Muhammed's fruit.
 
2012-09-27 10:40:59 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: These are the guys who get their morals from the great ATHEIST RUSSIAN WELFARE COLLECTING-prophet Ayn Rand, right?

 
2012-09-27 10:43:35 AM  
Only those without morals would be the ones to hide behind them.
 
2012-09-27 10:46:43 AM  

theknuckler_33: Visionary? Really? "Romney needs to win the argument that we need to get more people back to work". That's about as visionary as saying you'll get wet if you go out in the rain without an umbrella/rain coat.

It is really a shame that listening to shallow platitudes serve as valid points of arguments for conservatives. There wasn't one damned thing of substance in TFA and it is embarrassing for you to consider it 'visionary'.


How is it not visionary? I've been waiting nearly thirty years for a President to try lowering taxes and get the government out of my life. It's a joke. It is impossible to get elected in this country if you run on that platform.
 
2012-09-27 10:47:11 AM  
They take money and control away from people and give them to government bureaucrats, who then decide what should be done.

This is how ALL government functions regardless of political affiliation farking TardHall.
 
2012-09-27 10:50:17 AM  

ghare: These are the guys who get their morals from the great ATHEIST RUSSIAN WELFARE COLLECTING-prophet Ayn Rand, right?


Don't forget that she was pro-choice and female, which is basically Satan incarnate to these dipshiats.
 
2012-09-27 10:52:14 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: ghare: These are the guys who get their morals from the great ATHEIST RUSSIAN WELFARE COLLECTING-prophet Ayn Rand, right?

Don't forget that she was pro-choice and female, which is basically Satan incarnate to these dipshiats.


She believed in personal freedom above all else. This is what the bible pounding Republicans don't get.
 
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