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(Fox News)   Kentucky man with 500 rounds of ammunition detained after running roadblock during an Obama visit. Authorities don't believe his story about chasing a large testicled squirrel, though they do agree with the man's statement that Duke Sucks   (foxnews.com) divider line 187
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2012-09-27 07:26:06 AM  
Why is it that the paranoid tend to surround themselves with weapons and an abundance of ammo? Why are kooks like this allowed to own guns?
 
2012-09-27 07:43:12 AM  
The Secret Service met with Prater's family on Sept. 19 and family members described him as having a history of mental illness and repeatedly threatening people, including former President George W. Bush in 2004, authorities say.

So, yeah... I'm ok with this one.
 
2012-09-27 07:44:23 AM  
But what about Kentucky Woman?

Will she get to know you?

Is she gon' to own you?
 
2012-09-27 08:02:09 AM  
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-09-27 08:13:52 AM  
After reading the article that's a huge insult to Drew.

Sounds like this guy:
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2012-09-27 08:25:33 AM  
Indisputible proof that Obama wants to take our guns away.
 
2012-09-27 08:27:16 AM  

Shadow Blasko: The Secret Service met with Prater's family on Sept. 19 and family members described him as having a history of mental illness and repeatedly threatening people, including former President George W. Bush in 2004, authorities say.

So, yeah... I'm ok with this one.


Though, it does set a standard for the mentality of the "both sides are the same" crowd.
 
2012-09-27 08:27:44 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Why is it that the paranoid tend to surround themselves with weapons and an abundance of ammo?


Uh... maybe because they're paranoid?
 
2012-09-27 08:27:48 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Why is it that the paranoid tend to surround themselves with weapons and an abundance of ammo? Why are kooks like this allowed to own guns?


TRTFA
 
2012-09-27 08:29:15 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Why is it that the paranoid tend to surround themselves with weapons and an abundance of ammo? Why are kooks like this allowed to own guns?


My guess is he is not legally allowed to own firearms.

FTFA:"The Secret Service met with Prater's family on Sept. 19 and family members described him as having a history of mental illness and repeatedly threatening people, including former President George W. Bush in 2004, authorities say."
 
2012-09-27 08:29:54 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Why is it that the paranoid tend to surround themselves with weapons and an abundance of ammo? Why are kooks like this allowed to own guns?


You assume that everyone obtains firearms through legitimate markets. Besides, he may have already possessed the weapons before he was adjudicated insane, and the police never knew about them.
 
2012-09-27 08:31:45 AM  
Repeated Court Orders to not carry weapons and caught with weapons. This is the guy who should be in jail, not some kid caught with a joint.
 
2012-09-27 08:34:41 AM  
Oh you're mentally ill and you have a lot of weapons?

Meh. Just go back home.

Can't imagine any kind of problem arising from that combination.
 
2012-09-27 08:39:17 AM  
I was born in 44. It looks like almost all the Presidents, in my time here, have had assignations attempts on their lives.
 
2012-09-27 08:42:55 AM  
The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.
 
2012-09-27 08:43:54 AM  

indylaw: AbbeySomeone: Why is it that the paranoid tend to surround themselves with weapons and an abundance of ammo? Why are kooks like this allowed to own guns?

You assume that everyone obtains firearms through legitimate markets. Besides, he may have already possessed the weapons before he was adjudicated insane, and the police never knew about them.


This.

Also, since we have a stygma attached to mental health problems/treatment/screening, very little in the way of comprehensive availability of such mental health care, and so forth, there is no way to screen out the insane from the sane preemptively.

Let's not forget, either, that short of the overt actions we see, like this, that we clearly define as "mentally unstable", even mental healthcare professionals disagree on what constitutes an illness and what doesn't. Hell, even the board that publishes books on mental health problems is constantly redefining and revising their standards, making it a moving target.

NICS can be improved by including legal mental illness adjudications. However until we have a solid baseline of "is/is not crazy" that everyone agrees on, with checks and balances in place to prevent doctors with ulterior motives from simply declaring a person mentally incompetent without solid evidence, etc., it's not something you'll find much concensus on.

We suffer the evils of the mentally ill because of this.
 
2012-09-27 08:45:23 AM  

susler: Repeated Court Orders to not carry weapons and caught with weapons. This is the guy who should be in jail, not some kid caught with a joint.


Let's be honest, he belongs in a long-term facility for the mentally ill. Jails are not mental hospitals - the staff is not well-equipped to deal with serious mental health issues, and the schizophrenic wouldn't receive meaningful treatment there.
 
2012-09-27 08:45:29 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Why are kooks like this allowed to own guns?



They aren't. Which should tell you something about the effectiveness of gun control laws.
 
2012-09-27 08:45:36 AM  

probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.


Hey, everybody, the guy who missed the point finally made it!!! I almost thought you wouldn't be available for an oblivious comment. Oh, who am I kidding? You're always at the gun crime threads!
 
2012-09-27 08:47:25 AM  

susler: Repeated Court Orders to not carry weapons and caught with weapons. This is the guy who should be in jail, not some kid caught with a joint.


Gee, if only we had some means of getting people into treatment for mental illness, by force if necessary due to actual threatening behaviors, maybe this wouldn't happen.

/no, really, it's sad that people who are clearly disturbed get written off/ignored because of their crazy, with no resources out there readily available to help them actually get treatment. I would support paying an added tax on guns/ammo/luxury items/whatever to help contribute to better mental healthcare in this country.
 
2012-09-27 08:48:46 AM  
In a country full of wing-nuts brandishing firearms and calling for "2nd ammendment solutions", I fear for the safety of Obama. Especially after he is reelected. Hopefully, they'll all just go back to smugly parroting logical fallacies and dog-whistle racist remarks on the interweb.
 
2012-09-27 08:50:20 AM  

probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.


.22s perhaps, but large caliber handgun, or rifle rounds, I think not.
 
2012-09-27 08:50:49 AM  

Point02GPA: I was born in 44. It looks like almost all the Presidents, in my time here, have had assignations attempts on their lives.


Pretty sure every single president, elected official, or anyone that regularly makes the news is assigned to something or other.

/Learn2English
 
2012-09-27 08:51:28 AM  

Click Click D'oh: They aren't. Which should tell you something about the effectiveness of gun control laws.


We obviously need more laws that crazy people will ignore.

Ignored laws will make everyone safer! Just like when we banned alcohol and everyone in America stopped drinking forever.
 
2012-09-27 08:52:10 AM  

mr intrepid: probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.

.22s perhaps, but large caliber handgun, or rifle rounds, I think not.


Depends on the glovebox and packaging, eh? .45 rounds aren't all that big, honestly. .223 would be significantly taller, though and those might not fit. Aside from that, 500 rounds isn't that much ammo for a normal person.
 
2012-09-27 08:53:06 AM  
ronaprhys~

My bad...thks
 
2012-09-27 08:53:09 AM  

mr intrepid: probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.

.22s perhaps, but large caliber handgun, or rifle rounds, I think not.


It's still just the size of a few bricks.

12 gauge rounds would start being sizable, but even then 100 rounds is about the size of a fridge pack for your cans of soda.
 
2012-09-27 08:54:04 AM  

EyeballKid: probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.

Hey, everybody, the guy who missed the point finally made it!!! I almost thought you wouldn't be available for an oblivious comment. Oh, who am I kidding? You're always at the gun crime threads!


Just getting it out of the way....
 
2012-09-27 08:56:57 AM  

probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.


Not too mention it's in a box and takes time to reload a magazine
 
2012-09-27 08:56:59 AM  

Point02GPA: I was born in 44. It looks like almost all the Presidents, in my time here, have had assignations attempts on their lives.


as·sig·na·tion
[as-ig-ney-shuhn] noun
1.
an appointment for a meeting, especially a lover's secret rendezvous.

Clinton Where's the Women.jpg
 
2012-09-27 08:57:59 AM  
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2012-09-27 08:58:44 AM  
./looks into crystal ball

I see something.....Wait it's coming......It's fuzzy, but it's coming to me. I see...... I see.........a mass shooting in this man's future.
 
2012-09-27 09:00:46 AM  

probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.


ONE round sounds dangerous and spooky in the hands of a paranoid schizophrenic with a history of violence.
 
2012-09-27 09:01:01 AM  
Send More Chuck Berry~

Nicely done...thks
 
2012-09-27 09:03:20 AM  

probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.


ERMEGERHD IT CAN ALSO BE CONCEALED

It's, what, a couple hours of practice at a range? That's including the time it takes to load it into magazines.
 
2012-09-27 09:03:22 AM  
Lets start licensing breeding and siphon money away from the plan b pill thats being offered to 14 year olds and use that money to pay for mental health services for wanna be gun owners. 

You need a license/permit to drive, own a dog, build a deck, and own a firearm, but not for one of the greatest responsibilities and toughest things to do....create a life and raise a child.
 
2012-09-27 09:03:59 AM  
Luckily the voices in my head just tell me to sit on the couch play video games, drink beer and look at porn.
 
2012-09-27 09:05:28 AM  

Send More Chuck Berry: Point02GPA: I was born in 44. It looks like almost all the Presidents, in my time here, have had assignations attempts on their lives.

as·sig·na·tion
[as-ig-ney-shuhn] noun
1.
an appointment for a meeting, especially a lover's secret rendezvous.

Clinton Where's the Women.jpg


lulz
 
2012-09-27 09:05:49 AM  

Giltric: Lets start licensing breeding and siphon money away from the plan b pill thats being offered to 14 year olds and use that money to pay for mental health services for wanna be gun owners. 

You need a license/permit to drive, own a dog, build a deck, and own a firearm, but not for one of the greatest responsibilities and toughest things to do....create a life and raise a child.


Eugenics by any other name...
 
2012-09-27 09:05:57 AM  

Babygirljesus: ./looks into crystal ball

I see something.....Wait it's coming......It's fuzzy, but it's coming to me. I see...... I see.........a mass shooting in this man's future.


If the "mass" is the eight pounds of shiat between his ears I'm all for it.
 
2012-09-27 09:06:00 AM  
Why in the hell was he even allowed on the road there in Kentucky? And that roadblock runner is no prize, either.
 
2012-09-27 09:06:36 AM  

Giltric: Lets start licensing breeding and siphon money away from the plan b pill thats being offered to 14 year olds and use that money to pay for mental health services for wanna be gun owners. 

You need a license/permit to drive, own a dog, build a deck, and own a firearm, but not for one of the greatest responsibilities and toughest things to do....create a life and raise a child.


lolwut?
 
2012-09-27 09:08:25 AM  

ronaprhys: mr intrepid: probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.

.22s perhaps, but large caliber handgun, or rifle rounds, I think not.

Depends on the glovebox and packaging, eh? .45 rounds aren't all that big, honestly. .223 would be significantly taller, though and those might not fit. Aside from that, 500 rounds isn't that much ammo for a normal person.


1000 rounds of bulk packaged Federal XM193 (5.56 NATO; quite similar to your .223 example) fits in a 12"x6"x6" box and weighs 15 pounds. I could pull the bag out and get it to fit in my glove compartment, provided I had nothing else in there.

It sounds like a lot when the media says 'ZOMG 500 ROUNDS!' but it's really not that much.
 
2012-09-27 09:13:46 AM  
500 round of ammo itself isn't weird. I've got a couple of cases of shotgun shells for dove season, probably about 500. You can easily shoot 100 in an afternoon of skeet shooting. Have a couple hundred for my rifle too. A case comes with 200, so it's not like having 500 is really a lot, especially if you actually like to practice and become proficient.

This does not have anything to do with crazy guy in the article, but for all the people who think a few hundred rounds is stockpiling. It's simply economical. And convenient.
 
2012-09-27 09:14:18 AM  

EyeballKid: probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.

Hey, everybody, the guy who missed the point finally made it!!! I almost thought you wouldn't be available for an oblivious comment. Oh, who am I kidding? You're always at the gun crime threads!


You sound fat... and ugly. Yeah definitely ugly.
 
2012-09-27 09:14:28 AM  

probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.


Yeah, you can go through 500 rounds in a fairly short period of time too. There's plenty of shooters who would go through most of that in a single session.
 
2012-09-27 09:16:09 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: But what about Kentucky Woman?

Will she get to know you?

Is she gon' to own you?


goddammit. Old people earworm.
 
2012-09-27 09:17:24 AM  

mr intrepid: probesport: The number sounds dangerous and spooky to the media, but 500 rounds fits in a glovebox.

.22s perhaps, but large caliber handgun, or rifle rounds, I think not.


250 shotgun shells is roughly the size of a twelve pack. And any rational hunter buys them by the case.
 
2012-09-27 09:17:33 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: 500 rounds


Oh damn. I totally read that as 500 POUNDS of ammunition. I was impressed.

500 rounds is nothing, unless they're for a Howitzer.
 
2012-09-27 09:17:44 AM  

CruJones: 500 round of ammo itself isn't weird. I've got a couple of cases of shotgun shells for dove season, probably about 500. You can easily shoot 100 in an afternoon of skeet shooting. Have a couple hundred for my rifle too. A case comes with 200, so it's not like having 500 is really a lot, especially if you actually like to practice and become proficient.

This does not have anything to do with crazy guy in the article, but for all the people who think a few hundred rounds is stockpiling. It's simply economical. And convenient.


I think the issue here is not so much that he has that much ammo (Thankfully I'm on my way to having an FFL, so the amount of Ammo I have won't really be that suspicious), it's that the guy has been judged mentally ill and has a history of violent behavior. This all basically makes him ineligible to own firearms to begin with, although he seems to still have/be getting them from somewhere. The fact that the cops have not searched/confiscated his weapons based on the ruling is also interesting.

This is a case where someone with a mental issue who could do real damage was found and stopped BEFORE they killed anyone. Hopefully this will lead to getting him put somewhere where he'll get help and also won't pose a danger to anyone else.
 
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