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(Deadspin)   Six times as many people watched a rerun of The Vampire Diaries as watched MLS on ESPN2   (deadspin.com) divider line 143
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2012-09-27 07:58:58 AM
Makes sense to me.

www.homorazzi.com
 
2012-09-27 08:11:11 AM
So why don't sports franchises start recruiting vampires? Problem solved.
 
2012-09-27 08:12:11 AM
Comparing network to cable is like comparing apples to oranges. (Yes, even the CW.)

On cable, Breaking Bad is a huge hit. On the networks, it would be just another Terra Nova, canned after 6 episodes. (Yes, even on the CW).
 
2012-09-27 08:36:16 AM
Yeah, Vampire Diaries is awesome. I mean MLS is tough to watch! It isn't EPL quality!

/NTTAWRT
 
2012-09-27 08:53:11 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: So why don't sports franchises start recruiting vampires? Problem solved.


Ray Lewis turned out okay
 
2012-09-27 09:00:48 AM
No matter how much they try to make soccer popular in america, it simply won't be.

Our young females play soccer. start putting womens game on lifetme network or oprah or whatever.
 
2012-09-27 09:03:32 AM

Spanky_McFarksalot: No matter how much they try to make soccer popular in america, it simply won't be.

Our young females play soccer. start putting womens game on lifetme network or oprah or whatever.


Umm..it is already popular.
 
2012-09-27 09:10:20 AM
I love watching MLS and I don't care who knows it.
 
2012-09-27 09:11:26 AM

Spanky_McFarksalot: No matter how much they try to make soccer popular in america, it simply won't be.

Our young females play soccer. start putting womens game on lifetme network or oprah or whatever.


I dont' think they have any illusions about displacing any of the big 3, or 4, but there is a niche there for them. If I'm home and there's an MLS game on I will watch it, but I don't rearrange my schedule around them
 
2012-09-27 09:18:57 AM

Stimied in a Rut: I love watching MLS and I don't care who knows it.


I put up with MLS. Its all we have.
 
2012-09-27 09:19:26 AM
mls?
 
2012-09-27 09:19:51 AM
If they broadcast minor league baseball, it'd get roughly the same ratings, and deservedly so
 
2012-09-27 09:25:26 AM
Can't imagine how many more people watched the MLS on ESPN2 vs. Crossfit Games.
 
2012-09-27 09:30:29 AM
In related news...a majority of Americans watch inane shiate on TV. This statistic doesn't make fun of MLS as much as it makes fun of American's choice of programming.
 
2012-09-27 09:32:42 AM

ScouserDuck: In related news...a majority of Americans watch inane shiate on TV. This statistic doesn't make fun of MLS as much as it makes fun of American's choice of programming.


Check the ratings for shows such as Jersey Shore, Real Housewives of Wherever, that farking Honey Boo Boo show and others, and you'll be frightened at exactly how true your point is.
 
2012-09-27 09:34:52 AM
How is this news? Soccer is the least tv-friendly sport out there, except for maybe cricket. American audiences have many far, far better viewer-oriented options, and they vote with their remotes.
 
2012-09-27 09:35:45 AM
Bbbbut professional soccer is growing! It's so metropolitan!
 
2012-09-27 09:37:45 AM
Oh, that's why the NHL thought they could get away with a lockout.
 
2012-09-27 09:47:11 AM

SphericalTime: Makes sense to me.

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Well if you're looking for good looking guys I think it would be different to beat two fully staffed soccer teams.

Now the stands, that's were American soccer is really suffering.....

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2012-09-27 09:59:07 AM

Spanky_McFarksalot: No matter how much they try to make soccer popular in america, it simply won't be.

Our young females play soccer. start putting womens game on lifetme network or oprah or whatever.


I disagree. MLS has come a HELL of a long way over the last, what, 10-15 years. It still has a long way to go, sure. Marketing and exposure will be a big part of that, and MLS seems to be moving in the right direction. It looks like NBC is going to be showing an MLS game every week along with the coverage on NBCSports.

It will take time, and it may never get to the point where the Big 4 sports in the USA become the Big 5, but it's not over yet.
 
2012-09-27 10:04:32 AM

bhcompy: Bbbbut professional soccer is growing! It's so metropolitan!


STOP LIKING THINGS THAT I DON'T LIKE!!
 
2012-09-27 10:07:08 AM

Spanky_McFarksalot: No matter how much they try to make soccer popular in america, it simply won't be.

Our young females play soccer. start putting womens game on lifetme network or oprah or whatever.


I bag on soccer as much as the next meatheaded 'Murrican, but MLS average attendance is higher than the NBA. The difference is TV and the sweet, sweet straight caysh homey that it brings to grow the sport. There was an article here a while ago about the league's struggle to get TV deals at the same time they are selling out stadiums. I believe the crux of the issue was that people are hardcore about their local team, but don't care too much about the league as a whole.

MLS: 17,872, NBA: 17,323
 
2012-09-27 10:12:14 AM

roc6783: I bag on soccer as much as the next meatheaded 'Murrican, but MLS average attendance is higher than the NBA.


Well, 34 vs. 82 games doesn't help. I'm guessing there are far less weeknight games as well.

(hates 'em both, but this argument that MLS is as popular as ATH is stupid)
 
2012-09-27 10:13:07 AM

feanorn: Soccer is the least tv-friendly sport out there.



Yeah, no.
 
2012-09-27 10:13:20 AM
roc6783:
MLS: 17,872, NBA: 17,323

Breaking: More people will attend sporting events that are cheaper and sometimes have bigger capacities.

www.myfacewhen.net
 
2012-09-27 10:15:56 AM

drewogatory: roc6783: I bag on soccer as much as the next meatheaded 'Murrican, but MLS average attendance is higher than the NBA.

Well, 34 vs. 82 games doesn't help. I'm guessing there are far less weeknight games as well.

(hates 'em both, but this argument that MLS is as popular as ATH is stupid)


MLS' tickets are far less expensive, and there's ONE team that pulls 30-35K average attendance, which NBA arenas don't even hold (which makes "average" a ridiculous measurement), they play fewer games...it's a stupid comparison, but it's the only thing MLS fans have in order to pretend their sport/league is popular in America.
 
2012-09-27 10:18:34 AM

gtfan92: roc6783:
MLS: 17,872, NBA: 17,323

Breaking: More people will attend sporting events that are cheaper and sometimes have bigger capacities.

[www.myfacewhen.net image 170x128]


And, for reference, NBA average attendance to capacity is 90%, MLS is 88%.
 
2012-09-27 10:19:53 AM
Oh hey, here we go:

League ticket income:

NBA: 3.8 billion
MLS: 280 million

Oh yeah, that's close.

Although I question their numbers simply because the 49ers' tickets can't possibly be that cheap.
 
2012-09-27 10:21:51 AM

Loud_Mouth_Soup: feanorn: Soccer is the least tv-friendly sport out there.


Yeah, no.


Then what? Baseball? It has breaks for commercials, and at least they're not dithering on all the time, passing the ball back and forth without trying to score. Jai Alai? Squash? Seriously, what's a worse sport for tv than one which doesn't stop (except in the middle) and which has very few moments of actual action?
 
2012-09-27 10:23:36 AM
How does the Baby Daddy ratio compare? Guns in the Locker Room ratio? Fights in the Stands? Nightclub Shootings and Stabbings?

If you're going to compare the NBA to MLS, we have to look at significant data.
 
2012-09-27 10:25:11 AM
Obvious tag busy doing anything but watching the pretend sport that is soccer, subby?
 
2012-09-27 10:25:36 AM

feanorn: Loud_Mouth_Soup: feanorn: Soccer is the least tv-friendly sport out there.


Yeah, no.

Then what? Baseball? It has breaks for commercials, and at least they're not dithering on all the time, passing the ball back and forth without trying to score. Jai Alai? Squash? Seriously, what's a worse sport for tv than one which doesn't stop (except in the middle) and which has very few moments of actual action?


At least NASCAR has crashes.

/indoor soccer pretty fun to watch
 
2012-09-27 10:26:15 AM

feanorn: Loud_Mouth_Soup: feanorn: Soccer is the least tv-friendly sport out there.


Yeah, no.

Then what? Baseball? It has breaks for commercials, and at least they're not dithering on all the time, passing the ball back and forth without trying to score. Jai Alai? Squash? Seriously, what's a worse sport for tv than one which doesn't stop (except in the middle) and which has very few moments of actual action?


Spoken like a true American that has no idea of the run of play of soccer. Thanks for your input.
 
2012-09-27 10:28:33 AM

bhcompy: gtfan92: roc6783:
MLS: 17,872, NBA: 17,323

Breaking: More people will attend sporting events that are cheaper and sometimes have bigger capacities.

[www.myfacewhen.net image 170x128]

And, for reference, NBA average attendance to capacity is 90%, MLS is 88%.


See: Sounders
 
2012-09-27 10:29:13 AM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: How does the Baby Daddy ratio compare? Guns in the Locker Room ratio? Fights in the Stands? Nightclub Shootings and Stabbings?

If you're going to compare the NBA to MLS, we have to look at significant data.


Both leagues lag behind the rest of the world's soccer leagues in most of those as well.
 
2012-09-27 10:32:20 AM
So, not a soccer person, but isn't the MLS pretty much the minor leagues of soccer? Like aren't all the best players and teams in other countries and leagues?

I mean if you put minor league baseball on TV I bet the Vampire Diaries would out draw that too. Casual fans are unlikely to watch minor league sports...I've never watched an MLS game but I watch the World Cup. I even sometimes check in on the English (or whatever league) League games with Man U and whoever.

I don't think this is referendum on soccer's popularity in the US (which is rising and I expect will overtake hockey if it hasn't already) as much as it is a general "Meh" from American viewers over minor league soccer.

/whatever, back to soccer bashing thread
//wouldn't care if they never showed another game, but I'll check it out occasionally if the game is worthwhile i.e. not the NY Red Bulls v. The Football Club of Portland Beavers
 
2012-09-27 10:32:53 AM

feanorn: How is this news? Soccer is the least tv-friendly sport out there, except for maybe cricket. American audiences have many far, far better viewer-oriented options, and they vote with their remotes.


Honestly, I find good soccer to be among the best tv viewing experiences in sports. Constant action, no commercials, you get to actually see the ridiculous stuff that these athletes can do, and you know exactly how long the game is going to last.

The key, though, is "good". The MLS isn't.
 
2012-09-27 10:34:34 AM

feanorn: Loud_Mouth_Soup: feanorn: Soccer is the least tv-friendly sport out there.


Yeah, no.

Then what? Baseball? It has breaks for commercials


Forty Five Minutes, you can't make it forty five minutes? Really?
 
2012-09-27 10:44:22 AM

meanmutton: feanorn: How is this news? Soccer is the least tv-friendly sport out there, except for maybe cricket. American audiences have many far, far better viewer-oriented options, and they vote with their remotes.

Honestly, I find good soccer to be among the best tv viewing experiences in sports. Constant action, no commercials, you get to actually see the ridiculous stuff that these athletes can do, and you know exactly how long the game is going to last.

The key, though, is "good". The MLS isn't.


If any American has this mentality towards the game (i.e. cheering for a European club while bashing the home league), please, by all means, kill yourself.
 
2012-09-27 10:47:23 AM

Apeboy: feanorn: Loud_Mouth_Soup: feanorn: Soccer is the least tv-friendly sport out there.


Yeah, no.

Then what? Baseball? It has breaks for commercials

Forty Five Minutes, you can't make it forty five minutes? Really?


What's the story? No one watched the game. Why? The above. While either you or I can go forty-five minutes, most (Americans) can't.
 
2012-09-27 10:51:16 AM

Billy Crystal Meth Lab: meanmutton: feanorn: How is this news? Soccer is the least tv-friendly sport out there, except for maybe cricket. American audiences have many far, far better viewer-oriented options, and they vote with their remotes.

Honestly, I find good soccer to be among the best tv viewing experiences in sports. Constant action, no commercials, you get to actually see the ridiculous stuff that these athletes can do, and you know exactly how long the game is going to last.

The key, though, is "good". The MLS isn't.

If any American has this mentality towards the game (i.e. cheering for a European club while bashing the home league), please, by all means, kill yourself.


Lots do, and their attitude is what truly keeps the U.S. from being a great soccer country. They refuse to admit that MLS features plays that are on par with any league in the world, like this play, or this one, or this one.
 
2012-09-27 10:55:40 AM

bhcompy: gtfan92: roc6783:
MLS: 17,872, NBA: 17,323

Breaking: More people will attend sporting events that are cheaper and sometimes have bigger capacities.

[www.myfacewhen.net image 170x128]

And, for reference, NBA average attendance to capacity is 90%, MLS is 88%.


The average Floridian is born Cuban a dies Jewish

/averages are dumb
 
2012-09-27 10:55:53 AM

drewogatory: roc6783: I bag on soccer as much as the next meatheaded 'Murrican, but MLS average attendance is higher than the NBA.

Well, 34 vs. 82 games doesn't help. I'm guessing there are far less weeknight games as well.

(hates 'em both, but this argument that MLS is as popular as ATH is stupid)


That wasn't my argument at all. I was disagreeing with the opinion "No matter how much they try to make soccer popular in america, it simply won't be.
Our young females play soccer. start putting womens game on lifetme network or oprah or whatever."
based on the fact that the average attendance last year was higher than the NBA. I guess my comment implied a hell of a lot more than I meant it to.


Here is the ESPN article I also referenced. Here's the quote I was referencing also, "MLS's problem is they only have 19 teams and no regular national television presence," Luker said. "Right now, you are not going to bump into their product but they are working hard to change that."
 
2012-09-27 11:02:57 AM
Lots do, and their attitude is what truly keeps the U.S. from being a great soccer country. They refuse to admit that MLS features plays that are on par with any league in the world, like this play, or this one, or this one.


hahahahahahahaha. Oh stop, you're killing me, hahahahahahahaha. Seriously, do you even watch football? MLS is shiat, with absolutely zero prospect of ever being anything other than a shiat retirement/semi-pro league for has beens and never weres.
 
2012-09-27 11:06:39 AM

IAmRight: Although I question their numbers simply because the 49ers' tickets can't possibly be that cheap.


I wonder if that includes the suite income. That's a lot of revenue for very few seats.
 
2012-09-27 11:08:51 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wonder if that includes the suite income. That's a lot of revenue for very few seats.


I mean, even aside from that, sub-30 bucks is damn low. Maybe a few years ago when the team sucked and there were rumors about moving to Santa Clara...but I doubt they've been that cheap for the past couple years, at least.
 
2012-09-27 11:27:22 AM

drewogatory:
hahahahahahahaha. Oh stop, you're killing me, hahahahahahahaha. Seriously, do you even watch football? MLS is shiat, with absolutely zero prospect of ever being anything other than a shiat retirement/semi-pro league for has beens and never weres.


I semi-agree with this however this shows the ever present euro-prejudice/arrogance mainly from the EPL fans. There is excellent football to be found in the Western Hemisphere and a lot of it is playing in the MLS with over the hill euro league stars. The good ones get snapped up by the euro leagues but that doesn't mean there is not another excellant player taking their place from the US, MEX, ARG, BRA etc.
 
2012-09-27 11:43:54 AM
I kind of like soccer. Take it or leave it kind of thing but I do enjoy it immensely on occasion.

What I hate, is being part of a nation in which you are either the best, biggest, most, richest, have the highest ratings... or you suck. Maybe in 500 years Americans will have achieved some kind of magical harmony in which we all do the same thing at the same time every day after we have finally 'you suck!'ed everything else to death.
 
2012-09-27 11:48:58 AM

drewogatory: Lots do, and their attitude is what truly keeps the U.S. from being a great soccer country. They refuse to admit that MLS features plays that are on par with any league in the world, like this play, or this one, or this one.


hahahahahahahaha. Oh stop, you're killing me, hahahahahahahaha. Seriously, do you even watch football? MLS is shiat, with absolutely zero prospect of ever being anything other than a shiat retirement/semi-pro league for has beens and never weres.


Right because the Richest Nation on Earth with the Highest Standard of Living will never ever be able to financially compete with the Europeans.

The US dominance of Global Soccer is a matter of when and not if.
 
2012-09-27 11:49:24 AM
I just wish ESPN would stop shoving soccer down our throats. Every top ten has at least three indistinguishable goals scored from twenty feet out. It's boring and clearly not winning viewers. I know they spent big money on US broadcast rights, but you're never gonna recoup that.

A sport that uses scarves as their primary paraphernalia is never gonna take off in America. Might as well be team branded butt plugs. And every player has some sort of child sex slave assigned to them that they hold hands with before a game? Europeans are weird
 
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