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2012-09-27 03:44:30 AM  
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Served with a nice, tall glass of shut the f*ck up
 
2012-09-27 06:35:56 AM  
*narrows eyes*

TOP men...
 
2012-09-27 06:41:30 AM  
""testing." For instance, the coming October mission will focus on testing the vehicle's capabilities as well the cost-effectiveness.."

You know what's really cost effective? Not building these toys in the first place!
 
2012-09-27 06:41:32 AM  
Why is it always pictured surrounded by huge metal Legos?
 
2012-09-27 06:44:49 AM  
I realize its probably doing dull and tedious experiments (like automated docking and materials testing), but I still want to believe its actually dropping tungsten rods-from-God on targets in the desert.

/Someone tell them to get working on the X37-C already.
/The CST-100 is nice, but this thing seems far more advanced as a program.
 
2012-09-27 06:47:21 AM  

david_gaithersburg: ""testing." For instance, the coming October mission will focus on testing the vehicle's capabilities as well the cost-effectiveness.."

You know what's really cost effective? Not building these toys in the first place!


Luddites are so cute when they're worked up.
 
2012-09-27 06:48:29 AM  
Your job is to pay for it, citizen. Beyond that, it's none of your business.
 
2012-09-27 06:49:29 AM  
Well I haven't noticed any alien invasions from giant Egyptian-themed pyramid-ships lately, so they must be doing something right up there.
 
2012-09-27 06:53:17 AM  
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2012-09-27 06:56:22 AM  

AngryDragon: david_gaithersburg: ""testing." For instance, the coming October mission will focus on testing the vehicle's capabilities as well the cost-effectiveness.."

You know what's really cost effective? Not building these toys in the first place!

Luddites are so cute when they're worked up.


Good morning fellow subject.
 
2012-09-27 07:01:09 AM  
I think they have a little person inside that thing.
 
2012-09-27 07:02:29 AM  

david_gaithersburg: ""testing." For instance, the coming October mission will focus on testing the vehicle's capabilities as well the cost-effectiveness.."

You know what's really cost effective? Not building these toys in the first place!


But then how will we know if ants can differentiate screws in zero-G?
 
2012-09-27 07:14:35 AM  

way south: I realize its probably doing dull and tedious experiments (like automated docking and materials testing), but I still want to believe its actually dropping tungsten rods-from-God on targets in the desert.

/Someone tell them to get working on the X37-C already.
/The CST-100 is nice, but this thing seems far more advanced as a program.


That or it's up there blowing up space junk. The country that has control of space, and can knock out another nations satellites, has a huge advantage.
 
2012-09-27 07:23:17 AM  

BigBooper: That or it's up there blowing up space junk.


I can pretty much guarantee that this is not happening. One piece of large space junk in an understood orbit is far easier to avoid than many pieces of small space junk scattered in random diverging orbits.
 
2012-09-27 07:36:58 AM  
There is no need to worry, we are just `testing`

We are testing our new `kill everybody` ray gun. No need to worry. Just `testing`

I reckon getting people out of the way for takeoff, orbit, docking and landing is one of the best advances we could make for easy space travel. Make it cheap, make it automated.
 
2012-09-27 07:37:14 AM  
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Ian Fleming was ahead of his time.
 
2012-09-27 07:43:15 AM  
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"I am government man. Come from the government. The government has sent me."
 
2012-09-27 07:43:54 AM  
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2012-09-27 07:44:35 AM  

MooseUpNorth: BigBooper: That or it's up there blowing up space junk.

I can pretty much guarantee that this is not happening. One piece of large space junk in an understood orbit is far easier to avoid than many pieces of small space junk scattered in random diverging orbits.


Haven't you seen Star Wars? When Luke blew up the Death Star, it simply disintegrated and there was nothing left to further obstruct space.

Geeeez, what's wrong with you?
 
2012-09-27 07:55:06 AM  

SquiggsIN: Smingleigh: Well I haven't noticed any alien invasions from giant Egyptian-themed pyramid-ships lately, so they must be doing something right up there.

darned snakeheads


That's racist. They prefer "serpent people".
 
2012-09-27 07:55:32 AM  
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Lt. Col. John Dorrian.

At least now we know what he's been doing since leaving Sacred Heart.

/Hot like Blonde Doctor
 
2012-09-27 07:57:35 AM  
Whatever happened to "government of the people, for the people?"
Government has too many secrets.
Those are our tax dollars you are spending on that space plane.
It is OUR space plane.
We paid for it and we wanna know about it.
What are you so worried about? Commies?
By the way, 1985 called and hey want their fear-mongering back.
 
2012-09-27 08:03:23 AM  
Pigs...In...Space!!!
 
2012-09-27 08:05:43 AM  
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2012-09-27 08:11:34 AM  

SquiggsIN: along this line... why do ships have deflector dishes in star trek?


There's dust in space. It's very, very sparse, but if you're going fast enough, that one fleck of dust in your path can pretty much ruin your day...
 
2012-09-27 08:14:43 AM  
Well somebody needs to have a discreet and mobile intelligent gathering platform in space... who else are the Israelis going to steal intelligence from ?
 
2012-09-27 08:14:51 AM  

gregory311: Haven't you seen Star Wars? When Luke blew up the Death Star, it simply disintegrated and there was nothing left to further obstruct space.


*grin* Look at the scene where the Falcon comes out of hyperspace near 'Alderaan' again.
 
2012-09-27 08:15:01 AM  

MooseUpNorth: [lcars24.com image 233x200]


*shakes tiny fist*
 
2012-09-27 08:18:22 AM  
Anyone who thought the US was going to just stop going into space with the shuttle program being canceled is dillusional. There is no way the DoD is going to give up that capability, not when they,ve been operating on a "print as much money as we want" budget since WWII.

We're still doing the same work, but now the DoD can just get right to what they want without dealing with silly cell culture experiments and public hounding.

Killing specific targets from space a la smite from god is and always will be the end game for the DoD/CIA/Whoever.
 
2012-09-27 08:18:40 AM  

www.myfacewhen.net
Sometimes the military keeps secrets to maintain a strategic or tactical advantage.
Sometimes pinheads get upset and whine about not being told every freaking thing.
 
2012-09-27 08:19:37 AM  

david_gaithersburg: You know what's really cost effective? Not building these toys in the first place!


By that logic there is no point in having any military.

Why play if you aren't going to play to win!?!? Amirite!?!?!
 
2012-09-27 08:21:28 AM  

MooseUpNorth: gregory311: Haven't you seen Star Wars? When Luke blew up the Death Star, it simply disintegrated and there was nothing left to further obstruct space.

*grin* Look at the scene where the Falcon comes out of hyperspace near 'Alderaan' again.


Yeah, but Alderaan was a planet, not 'space junk.' Man-made spacey-type thingamabobs and contraptions simply disintegrate into nothingness. I think that's why my physics prof told me way back when.

/I am terribly amused by this thread
 
2012-09-27 08:21:36 AM  

Snapper Carr: [imageshack.us image 210x240]

"I am government man. Come from the government. The government has sent me."


im.glogster.com
 
2012-09-27 08:21:45 AM  

MooseUpNorth: BigBooper: That or it's up there blowing up space junk.

I can pretty much guarantee that this is not happening. One piece of large space junk in an understood orbit is far easier to avoid than many pieces of small space junk scattered in random diverging orbits.


Well, what's better:
A large chunk of crap which stays in orbit forever that you have to track so you don't get all explodey from hitting it, or small chunks of crap falling back to earth and burning up or flying out into deep space where it becomes someone else's problem.

/Once you blow up that hunk of metal, it keeps going til it hits something. That can be a ship. Or the planet behind that ship. It might go off into deep space and hit somebody else in ten thousand years. If you pull the trigger on this, you are ruining someones day, somewhere and sometime. That is why you check your targets. That is why you wait for the computer to give you a damn firing solution. That is why, Serviceman Chung, we do not "eyeball it". This is a weapon of mass destruction. You are not a cowboy shooting from the hip!
 
2012-09-27 08:22:23 AM  

MooseUpNorth: I can pretty much guarantee that this is not happening. One piece of large space junk in an understood orbit is far easier to avoid than many pieces of small space junk scattered in random diverging orbits.


Imagine a satellite killer that either neutralizes it in place (EMP?) or simply pushes it out of orbit either to collide with the Earth for spin off in to space. I imagine such a thing would be very useful if there were to be a large scale conflict among technically advanced countries. (I'm looking at YOU China.....)
 
2012-09-27 08:23:55 AM  

SpectroBoy: [www.myfacewhen.net image 340x256]
Sometimes the military keeps secrets to let the government maintain a strategic or tactical advantage over civilians.
Sometimes civilians get upset about this.


FTFY
 
2012-09-27 08:25:57 AM  
Why would they not be attaching magnetic thrusters to every satellite `just in case` then the enemies satellites are the weapons you use against them?
 
2012-09-27 08:26:41 AM  
Interesting how the poor little libs get so worked up when the government spends conservatives' tax dollars on anything but the liberals' welfare programs!
 
2012-09-27 08:26:44 AM  

MythDragon: A large chunk of crap which stays in orbit forever that you have to track so you don't get all explodey from hitting it, or small chunks of crap falling back to earth and burning up or flying out into deep space where it becomes someone else's problem.


3.bp.blogspot.com

ORBITAL MECHANICS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!
 
2012-09-27 08:34:56 AM  

SpectroBoy: Imagine a satellite killer that either neutralizes it in place (EMP?) or simply pushes it out of orbit either to collide with the Earth for spin off in to space. I imagine such a thing would be very useful if there were to be a large scale conflict among technically advanced countries. (I'm looking at YOU China.....)


Your best bet is to neutralize it in place. XKCD talked about the aircraft-based lasers. If you have a bunch of them, or one powerful enough, you can melt enough of an annoying satellite to damage, say, the optics. An EMP would do it, but as you're basically exploding a nuclear device in space to produce the EMP, you're likely going to interfere with ground based communications, too. People are going to notice (unfortunately) if you deny them their (un)reality TV fix.

Pushing a satellite out of orbit basically means attaching a rocket motor to accelerate it to escape velocity. You can also push it out of orbit with a laser, but as it's probably easier just to melt it down some...

If you're looking to deorbit something, again, rocket motor or space-based laser to slow it down. You won't need as much hardware to do this, so it's probably a tad more viable.
 
2012-09-27 08:38:39 AM  

david_gaithersburg: ""testing." For instance, the coming October mission will focus on testing the vehicle's capabilities as well the cost-effectiveness.."

You know what's really cost effective? Not building these toys in the first place!


It's still in testing phase, though has had two testing missions of over a year each.

The China idea of being able to drop bombs from space is kinda interesting. Obviously you would have guidance, would the bombs be too small to detect falling, or would you not have time to react? I'm guessing the stealth bomber or drones would be much more effective at this.
 
2012-09-27 08:39:07 AM  

SquiggsIN: (and it seems you didn't read the rest of my post that basically sums it up)


The rest of your post is based on a faulty premise, that space is a perfect vacuum. It's not. It's only _almost_ a perfect vacuum. There is dust in deep space. A single fleck of dust is more than enough to fark you up if you're going fast enough.

Even in TV 'reality', dust was specifically cited by the people involved in producing TNG as the reason for the deflectors.
 
2012-09-27 08:40:34 AM  

MythDragon: Well, what's better:
A large chunk of crap which stays in orbit forever that you have to track so you don't get all explodey from hitting it, or small chunks of crap falling back to earth and burning up or flying out into deep space where it becomes someone else's problem.


'Cept that's not what happens when you blow up something like a satellite. Sure, some fraction of the pieces do get shifted into low enough orbits to burn up (and I suppose some of them probably do get ejected as well), but the majority of them just stay up there in earth orbit. And then instead of one easily tracked and avoided piece of debris, you've got several thousand (at least) almost as lethal and much more difficult to track and avoid pieces of debris.
 
2012-09-27 08:43:29 AM  
I'm hoping is some kind of space debris laser (that could also be used against satellites if needed). Oops it thought your military communications satellite was space debris.
 
2012-09-27 08:46:11 AM  

MooseUpNorth: SquiggsIN: (and it seems you didn't read the rest of my post that basically sums it up)

The rest of your post is based on a faulty premise, that space is a perfect vacuum. It's not. It's only _almost_ a perfect vacuum. There is dust in deep space. A single fleck of dust is more than enough to fark you up if you're going fast enough.

Even in TV 'reality', dust was specifically cited by the people involved in producing TNG as the reason for the deflectors.


You're missing his point. The closest thing as we understand it to star trek's warp drive is the Alcubierre drive, in which the 'travelling' craft doesn't actually move, but rather the space behind and in front of the craft is manipulated such that it arrives at its destination without actually moving relative to its own local patch of space-time. In such a case, you wouldn't have to worry about dust to any greater extent than a stationary vessel would, since relative to your local environment you *are* actually stationary.

That said, even in that case they'd still want deflectors for when they're travelling on impulse, as those are (iirc) nothing more than fusion rockets.
 
2012-09-27 08:47:49 AM  
Dat comment section.
 
2012-09-27 08:52:04 AM  

way south: I realize its probably doing dull and tedious experiments (like automated docking and materials testing), but I still want to believe its actually dropping tungsten rods-from-God on targets in the desert.

/Someone tell them to get working on the X37-C already.
/The CST-100 is nice, but this thing seems far more advanced as a program.


nah, word is they are using it as an easy to upgrade spy sat. Instead of launching a new satellite with a 10+ yr life span that will have outdated hardware within 2yrs they can just land this thing and throw in new modules
 
2012-09-27 08:52:24 AM  

MuonNeutrino: In such a case, you wouldn't have to worry about dust to any greater extent than a stationary vessel would, since relative to your local environment you *are* actually stationary.


What happens when you try and contract an area of space that has something in it?
 
2012-09-27 08:55:56 AM  
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2012-09-27 08:59:05 AM  

TheGogmagog: david_gaithersburg: ""testing." For instance, the coming October mission will focus on testing the vehicle's capabilities as well the cost-effectiveness.."

You know what's really cost effective? Not building these toys in the first place!

It's still in testing phase, though has had two testing missions of over a year each.

The China idea of being able to drop bombs from space is kinda interesting. Obviously you would have guidance, would the bombs be too small to detect falling, or would you not have time to react? I'm guessing the stealth bomber or drones would be much more effective at this.


Look up "Rods from God"
 
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