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(Japan Today)   New YouTube series covers Japan's cheesy special effects films, including Godzilla, Gamera, and Ultraman. "Why do they remain popular in today's age of CGI? Why are they still being produced? And how much do we really know about them?"   (japantoday.com) divider line 12
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2012-09-27 07:20:55 AM
This is relevant to my interests.

I grew up watching Godzilla, Gamera, Ultraman, and Johnny Sokko. Ultraman was especially well done. Some episodes of the original series are of course better than others, but it's still worth watching. I have the entire first series of Ultraman on DVD. Cost me like $7.
 
2012-09-27 08:32:25 AM
I love the old Godzilla movies and love the Gamera series thanks to MST3K. And the cheesiness of the FX is one reason I love to watch them. CGI can be good or bad and if it is bad, it can hurt the film. A man in a monster suit just makes it cheesy and funny.
 
2012-09-27 09:17:53 AM

yves0010: I love the old Godzilla movies and love the Gamera series thanks to MST3K. And the cheesiness of the FX is one reason I love to watch them. CGI can be good or bad and if it is bad, it can hurt the film. A man in a monster suit just makes it cheesy and funny.


Next time you watch one of those films, ignore the man in the suit, and check out the model work. Generally, it's fantastic, even for the TV shows.
 
2012-09-27 10:45:58 AM
I thought Ghana had a monopoly on bad special effects movies, at least in the modern era...
 
2012-09-27 11:00:32 AM

dittybopper: yves0010: I love the old Godzilla movies and love the Gamera series thanks to MST3K. And the cheesiness of the FX is one reason I love to watch them. CGI can be good or bad and if it is bad, it can hurt the film. A man in a monster suit just makes it cheesy and funny.

Next time you watch one of those films, ignore the man in the suit, and check out the model work. Generally, it's fantastic, even for the TV shows.


Yup. What's amazing is how buildings are destroyed in Godzilla films - it's not the guy in the suit trying to destroy the building, it's an entire team of people off-camera making sure a beautifully prepared model comes apart when the guy in the suit pretends to destroy it. It's kind of like wrestling (props to Kaiju Wrestling, by the way) in which the 'fake' parts overshadow the real parts.

And I'd like to qualify what I said there. What's amazing about wrestling isn't that two guys aren't really fighting, but that the fact that injuries are so rare in the performance. Similarly with suit-based movies, the amazing thing isn't the special effects, but the skills and technique with which they're carried off.
 
2012-09-27 11:39:20 AM
There's 2 or 3 big tokusatsu art exhibits going on right now in Tokyo . I'm going to go see them next month.
 
2012-09-27 12:12:56 PM
It's because CGI and graphics are tools used to tell a story.
If they are there instead of a story then it's crap.

Pretty and stupid is still stupid.
 
2012-09-27 12:37:34 PM
Count me as another Japanese Kaiju fan. Sure some look silly, but you can't deny their original!



I would still rather watch a Ray Harryhausen movie than most of the crap that passes for SFX monsters these days.
 
2012-09-27 12:38:28 PM
Also, the Heisei series of Gamera films are at least as good as the best of the Godzilla films That's how you do a suitmation kaiju film.

And another thing: The American Godzilla film from 1998 is better than almost all of the Japanese films, with the single exception of the original Gojira.
 
2012-09-27 04:19:06 PM

dittybopper: The American Godzilla film from 1998 is better than almost all of the Japanese films, with the single exception of the original Gojira.


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2012-09-27 07:46:42 PM

Optimal_Illusion: dittybopper: The American Godzilla film from 1998 is better than almost all of the Japanese films, with the single exception of the original Gojira.

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Not only are the special effects better, but so is the science, the acting, and the plot. The problem is that it is saddled with the Godzilla name. If I had been called "The Lizard That Ate New York" it would have been better received by both fans of Gojira and those who aren't fans.
 
2012-09-29 02:27:19 AM

dittybopper: Optimal_Illusion: dittybopper: The American Godzilla film from 1998 is better than almost all of the Japanese films, with the single exception of the original Gojira.

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Not only are the special effects better, but so is the science, the acting, and the plot. The problem is that it is saddled with the Godzilla name. If I had been called "The Lizard That Ate New York" it would have been better received by both fans of Gojira and those who aren't fans.


Except it suffered what is now known as the Transformers Effect. A decent giant lizard movie would have been great, but instead we got saddled with far too much 'human story' that defied science, coincidence, and good taste.
 
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