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(Yahoo)   It's hard to say what the best way to test police response is. But dressing your 16-year-old nephew in a sheet and having him walk the city streets with a fake grenade launcher is probably not it   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 29
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2012-09-26 10:06:57 PM
Dark Knight Shooting Response, Rocket Launcher Police Test

Best Video Name ever.

Well maybe this week.

Video Link
 
2012-09-26 11:57:09 PM
Is there an insurance policy on that kid, or what?

/with family like that, who needs enemies?
 
2012-09-27 12:24:05 AM
And what did he get for all his troubles?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-27 03:26:56 AM
Fake terrorism is an offence now? With real jail time!
 
2012-09-27 03:30:36 AM

smadge1: Fake terrorism is an offense now? With real jail time!


Um, yes. It is. Just like filing a false police report, or prank calling 911.
 
2012-09-27 03:31:40 AM
I guess the idea was, if he came back alive, the cops had failed?
 
2012-09-27 03:41:03 AM

Gyrfalcon: I guess the idea was, if he came back alive, the cops had failed?


I believe his intent was to show the delay between a person showing up with a rocket launcher and the police arriving, probably to highlight the truth of the old canard, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." The disparity between his account of 15 minutes for response time, and the police department's 3 minutes, tells me that he struck a nerve. Not that it really matters - what are the police going to do about a guy with a rocket launcher anyway? Three minutes or thirty, it doesn't really matter. By the time they get there, he's already done as much damage as he wants to.
 
2012-09-27 03:49:02 AM

webthing01: Dark Knight Shooting Response, Rocket Launcher Police Test

Best Video Name ever.

Well maybe this week.

Video Link


It's not a grenade launcher that TFA says... the filmer says it's a rocket launcher, which it is, an RPG-7.

He's all "it's been FIVE MINUTES and police have not arrived". Well duh. Did you expect them to break the sound barrier?

He says he was detained for under 10 minutes and released "without question". Wait, didn't he ask you questions here??

I don't know what he's saying. He seems to be begging that his kid be shot on sight the moment he stepped out in public. And say the world failed for NOT shooting him on sight.
 
2012-09-27 03:56:25 AM
Why did it take so long?

Because most people thought... Oh there is a kid in a terrorist costume...
kpho.images.worldnow.com 

The video is around. Looks even worse from the front.
 
2012-09-27 03:57:45 AM

newton: Why did it take so long?

Because most people thought... Oh there is a kid in a terrorist costume...
[kpho.images.worldnow.com image 603x374] 

The video is around. Looks even worse from the front.


I would think "Look, some high school kids are making a shiatty YouTube video, which'll probably be funny as hell somehow".
 
2012-09-27 04:02:05 AM

untaken_name: Gyrfalcon: I guess the idea was, if he came back alive, the cops had failed?

I believe his intent was to show the delay between a person showing up with a rocket launcher and the police arriving, probably to highlight the truth of the old canard, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." The disparity between his account of 15 minutes for response time, and the police department's 3 minutes, tells me that he struck a nerve. Not that it really matters - what are the police going to do about a guy with a rocket launcher anyway? Three minutes or thirty, it doesn't really matter. By the time they get there, he's already done as much damage as he wants to.


I think the situation is that it took ~12min for someone to drive by and call 911, and the cops were there in 3 minutes.
So apparently he's furious that the cops aren't telepathic and able to read his mind before anyone reports it. When are we going to finally get off our asses and make that psychic "PreCrime Division" that NEEDS to be done to protect our freedomz?
 
2012-09-27 04:04:01 AM

untaken_name: Gyrfalcon: I guess the idea was, if he came back alive, the cops had failed?

I believe his intent was to show the delay between a person showing up with a rocket launcher and the police arriving, probably to highlight the truth of the old canard, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." The disparity between his account of 15 minutes for response time, and the police department's 3 minutes, tells me that he struck a nerve. Not that it really matters - what are the police going to do about a guy with a rocket launcher anyway? Three minutes or thirty, it doesn't really matter. By the time they get there, he's already done as much damage as he wants to.


The police response time may have 15 minutes but Darwin was apparently asleep at the switch.
 
2012-09-27 04:04:22 AM
I wonder if insurance companies are paying out for creative versions of 'suicide by cop' these days.

/Not just pointing a gun at them, but getting creative about it.

//And did he wear actual egyptian cotton or just the poly blend, details matter here. You can't have your 72 virgins without real egyptian cotton.
 
2012-09-27 04:04:51 AM

Oznog: untaken_name: Gyrfalcon: I guess the idea was, if he came back alive, the cops had failed?

I believe his intent was to show the delay between a person showing up with a rocket launcher and the police arriving, probably to highlight the truth of the old canard, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." The disparity between his account of 15 minutes for response time, and the police department's 3 minutes, tells me that he struck a nerve. Not that it really matters - what are the police going to do about a guy with a rocket launcher anyway? Three minutes or thirty, it doesn't really matter. By the time they get there, he's already done as much damage as he wants to.

I think the situation is that it took ~12min for someone to drive by and call 911, and the cops were there in 3 minutes.
So apparently he's furious that the cops aren't telepathic and able to read his mind before anyone reports it. When are we going to finally get off our asses and make that psychic "PreCrime Division" that NEEDS to be done to protect our freedomz?


Okay, but what is the effective difference between three minutes and fifteen? It doesn't take three minutes to fire a rocket, or even several rockets. I guess my problem is I just don't understand the entire premise. If a guy shows up with a rocket launcher, my first thought is "I need to get the hell away from here," not, "I hope the police show up soon."
 
2012-09-27 04:10:18 AM
untaken_name,
Okay, but what is the effective difference between three minutes and fifteen? It doesn't take three minutes to fire a rocket, or even several rockets. I guess my problem is I just don't understand the entire premise. If a guy shows up with a rocket launcher, my first thought is "I need to get the hell away from here," not, "I hope the police show up soon."


I would be impressed they are bringing the jihad to suburbia, not just new york city or LA.

Once established this was a prank, I would be interested to see the terrorist get tazed or shot by twichy cops for his creative endevors.
 
2012-09-27 04:11:22 AM

untaken_name: Oznog: untaken_name: Gyrfalcon: I guess the idea was, if he came back alive, the cops had failed?

I believe his intent was to show the delay between a person showing up with a rocket launcher and the police arriving, probably to highlight the truth of the old canard, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." The disparity between his account of 15 minutes for response time, and the police department's 3 minutes, tells me that he struck a nerve. Not that it really matters - what are the police going to do about a guy with a rocket launcher anyway? Three minutes or thirty, it doesn't really matter. By the time they get there, he's already done as much damage as he wants to.

I think the situation is that it took ~12min for someone to drive by and call 911, and the cops were there in 3 minutes.
So apparently he's furious that the cops aren't telepathic and able to read his mind before anyone reports it. When are we going to finally get off our asses and make that psychic "PreCrime Division" that NEEDS to be done to protect our freedomz?

Okay, but what is the effective difference between three minutes and fifteen? It doesn't take three minutes to fire a rocket, or even several rockets. I guess my problem is I just don't understand the entire premise. If a guy shows up with a rocket launcher, my first thought is "I need to get the hell away from here," not, "I hope the police show up soon."


Actually, having been a dispatcher, a three-minute response time from moment of dispatch is PHENOMENAL. Five to ten is pretty standard, simply because that's how long it takes to: get the call, plot a route, and drive there through traffic. I doubt they'd go lights & sirens to a guy with a rocket launcher, since that's a great way to provide a target. "Hey, dude with RPG! Here we come!" is not conducive to survival.

That said, you're right, I have no idea what dad was trying to prove here; the cops can only respond AFTER someone else calls 911, so why isn't he mad at his neighbors for their apathy? Alternatively, why isn't he GLAD that one of them didn't do the hero thingy so many people were expecting after the Aurora shooting and just cap his kid's ass the moment they saw the RPG? What if one of them had reached for his trusty 2d Amendment enforcer and shot a few rounds at Junior--would dad have been furious that the cops weren't there before Junior got blown away?

Someone needs to get that poor kid out of dad's clutches before he decides the best way to "test" a terrorist response is to dress his son up like Mohammed and drop him off near the town's mosque.
 
2012-09-27 04:14:50 AM
FTA: "Officer James Holmes


...I know Holmes is a common last name, but...
 
2012-09-27 04:48:00 AM
at 16 this kid should realize how easily he could have been killed. morans.
 
2012-09-27 04:51:02 AM
Maybe the kid was leaving him a big inheritance or something.
 
2012-09-27 05:21:38 AM
Twice in my professional life I required a fake RPG. Those things are expensive.
 
2012-09-27 05:54:35 AM
Meh, even it it had been real, he obviously wasn't carrying a reload, so he couldn't have done much than snarl traffic for a few minutes, with about as many casualties as a regular automobile accident.
 
2012-09-27 08:29:28 AM

newton: Why did it take so long?

Because most people thought... Oh there is a kid in a terrorist costume...
[kpho.images.worldnow.com image 603x374] 

The video is around. Looks even worse from the front.


People driving by him don't even slow down for a WTF? look-see...

I especially liked the John-Belushi-Animal-House jump 'n spin hops in the middle of the street.

"Holy shiat! HOLY shiat!"
 
2012-09-27 08:59:16 AM
I'm kinda happy that nobody busted a cap on the kid. I'm not sure that a deer rifle toting citizen of my beloved West Maryland wouldn't have shot him dead on the spot.

I'm guessing that this was an "Acorn" documentary in the making.
 
2012-09-27 10:48:06 AM

fireclown: I'm kinda happy that nobody busted a cap on the kid. I'm not sure that a deer rifle toting citizen of my beloved West Maryland wouldn't have shot him dead on the spot.

I'm guessing that this was an "Acorn" documentary in the making.


it is really something to think seriously about.
 
2012-09-27 10:49:55 AM

Enemabag Jones: I wonder if insurance companies are paying out for creative versions of 'suicide by cop' these days.

/Not just pointing a gun at them, but getting creative about it.

//And did he wear actual egyptian cotton or just the poly blend, details matter here. You can't have your 72 virgins without real egyptian cotton.


It's the fabric of our lives jihad.
 
2012-09-27 10:50:03 AM

untaken_name: Gyrfalcon: I guess the idea was, if he came back alive, the cops had failed?

I believe his intent was to show the delay between a person showing up with a rocket launcher and the police arriving, probably to highlight the truth of the old canard, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." The disparity between his account of 15 minutes for response time, and the police department's 3 minutes, tells me that he struck a nerve. Not that it really matters - what are the police going to do about a guy with a rocket launcher anyway? Three minutes or thirty, it doesn't really matter. By the time they get there, he's already done as much damage as he wants to.


Call situation 1:
Hey guys, there is some dumbass kid running around in a sheet with what appears to be a rocket launcher while some other kid films him. You guys might want to check this out before this asshole gets himself killed.

Call situation 2:
OMFG! BLOOD! BLOOD EVERYWHERE! SOME GUY IS BLOWING UP TRUCKS AND SHIAT IN THE INTERSECTION! I CAN'T FEEL...I CAN'T FEEL MY LEGS...Oh wait, they are over by those hedges....OH GOD MY LEGS ARE OVER BY THOSE HEDGES! HELP! PLEASE HELP! I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU COULD FIRE AN RPG MORE THAN ONCE WITHOUT SPARE ROCKETS, BUT HE'S DOING IT! THERE ARE PEOPLE CHUNKS IN MY HAIR! I'VE GOT A TOE IN MY NOSE, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S MINE! HEEEEEEEEEELP

Yeah, which one do you think would get more attention?
 
2012-09-27 02:01:06 PM
Given how many people own and carry guns here, I'm surprised that nobody shot the dumb farker.
 
2012-09-28 09:54:35 AM
Kind of disappointed to read that kid didn't get shot on the spot. I guess the terrorists have won. America is fully pussified. You all talk big about toting guns but you don't even use them when it would seem to be completely appropriate.
 
2012-09-28 12:29:31 PM
Oh I just HAVE to comment on this one!

My ex was once walking along the main street in our area with a child's toy rocket launcher over his shoulder when it accidentally went off and fired a sponge rocket directly at the windshield of a passing cop car.

After a small confrontation they confiscated the toy and let him go. He never reclaimed it. I bet they played with it at the station.

Another time me, my ex and my friend were tripping on LSD on a busy local festival day. My friend lost the plot with someone and went batshiat with an axe, a pickaxe handle and finally a bottle. We disarmed him each time and eventually resorted to frogmarching him down the same main street - its a rough area too - to take him to the house of another friend who is a psychologist so he could be looked after till he came down.

I had the axe, and my ex had the pickaxe handle and we frogmarched this guy all the way down this long road at about 11am on a sunny day on the biggest local holiday. We fully expected to be surrounded by cop cars at any moment and were preparing ourselves not to panic and explain ourselves.

What really happened? As soon as people ahead could see us coming they DIVED INTO ANY NEARBY SHOP. Nobody called the police.

To be honest I often think about that day and it gives me the creeps. IT IS THAT EASY TO ABDUCT SOMEONE IN BROAD DAYLIGHT??? I don't like it. I would be much happier if someone panicked and called the police. How the hell could anyone know what the fark was going on? For heavens sake, if it was innocent we could have and would have explained, the police would probably just have confiscated the weapons and let us get on with it.

*sigh*
 
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