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(Deadspin)   Lance Easley, the replacement ref who signaled touchdown at the Seattle Screwjob, was deemed not ready for NCAA Division I football by a refereeing clinic run by top level officials   (deadspin.com) divider line 69
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2012-09-27 12:43:45 AM

Harv72b: missiv: Funny, we aren't requiring the Refs to take hits as if they're professional players. My take is, the NFL took a huge gamble thinking like every Tom, Dick, or Harv72b, that any old trained Ref could call games because it looks easy. The Refs weren't even thought of professionals before this debacle of epic proportions. From now on, there won't be any doubt. The job is enormous, with a rule book that could choke a pregnant sow. Now, back to the matter of the lock-out; the commissioner and his merry band of cash hoarders called the team owners have ripped off their cash cow[the fans]. It's time to not only fix this Ref situation, but it's also time to pay something back to the fans. You'll notice I left the players out, it's only, because they're property of the league. We, the fans are not their property and we expect more than just I'm sorry.

Yeah, you totally missed my point. Owners' fault for sure, but the temps don't get a waiver as nobody held a gun to their head and forced them to take the job.

Either way, it's over so we can go back to yelling at the trained professionals again. :)


I didn't miss your point. I covered it, and kept moving. I guess you missed that, like the replacement refs missed calls.
 
2012-09-27 12:47:21 AM
Somewhere Joyce & Meals are smiling.
 
2012-09-27 01:01:37 AM

bborchar: So does that mean we're going to delve into the records of every referee who screws up a call? Move on, people. The guy screwed up doing a job that he's only done for a few weeks. Color me shocked. There's no reason to ruin his life for it.


Fark him, he's a scab. I don't care if he got the call right or not. He's taking a qualified person's job and making a mockery of it. But most of all, I blame Roger Goodell. All his talk about the NFL "Family". He needs a mudhole stomped in his ass, then walked dry.
 
2012-09-27 01:07:06 AM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: bborchar: So does that mean we're going to delve into the records of every referee who screws up a call? Move on, people. The guy screwed up doing a job that he's only done for a few weeks. Color me shocked. There's no reason to ruin his life for it.

Fark him, he's a scab. I don't care if he got the call right or not. He's taking a qualified person's job and making a mockery of it. But most of all, I blame Roger Goodell. All his talk about the NFL "Family". He needs a mudhole stomped in his ass, then walked dry.


Union thug like typing detected
 
2012-09-27 01:20:09 AM

Harv72b: Either way, it's over so we can go back to yelling at the trained professionals again. :)


If the only thing that comes out of this is that the gloves are off for the regular officials, it has all been more that worth it. When they fark it up, I want players ripping them on twitter without any fear of reprisal. I want to see them crucified in every form of media that exists and that has yet to be invented. I want to see the entitled deference they've been granted, at least in more formal circles, end; forever.
 
2012-09-27 01:49:52 AM

Harv72b: phantomht: how many death threats has he gotten so far?

He lost count just before potato.


At least he can count to potato. Can you?
 
2012-09-27 01:59:13 AM

bhcompy: Union thug like typing detected


Naw, I'd make a pretty ineffectual thug. However I was a pressman for 28 years for ten different newspapers, and the last eight were spent in a major metropolitan newspaper and it was a union shop. We accomplished more with fewer employees, made the newspaper more money, and produced better quality than any non-union shop I ever worked for, including the USAToday.

I was treated better (we didn't have bosses, we had facilitators, whose job was to remove obstacles from us doing our jobs), made more money, and had better benefits than I ever knew was possible. I had to leave that job to take care of my mother, and it's my fervent hope that one day I find one half as good. I have nothing but praise for unions, and believe that when dealt with fairly and in good faith, they benefit any company that utilizes them.
 
2012-09-27 09:29:09 AM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: bhcompy: Union thug like typing detected

Naw, I'd make a pretty ineffectual thug. However I was a pressman for 28 years for ten different newspapers, and the last eight were spent in a major metropolitan newspaper and it was a union shop. We accomplished more with fewer employees, made the newspaper more money, and produced better quality than any non-union shop I ever worked for, including the USAToday.

I was treated better (we didn't have bosses, we had facilitators, whose job was to remove obstacles from us doing our jobs), made more money, and had better benefits than I ever knew was possible. I had to leave that job to take care of my mother, and it's my fervent hope that one day I find one half as good. I have nothing but praise for unions, and believe that when dealt with fairly and in good faith, they benefit any company that utilizes them.


Good for you. I had friends denied basic medication because union longshoremen wanted a large raise on their 6 figure salary for unskilled labor.
 
2012-09-27 10:02:41 AM

Lsherm: Shaggy_C: The NFL reviewed it and said they made the right call. I'm suuuuuure all you Packer farks would be screaming just as loudly if the call had gone the other way on the field and the NFL called it a bad call after the fact. No, you don't care about the call being right, you just care about your team winning.

I think it's more impressive that they reviewed it and said they made the right call. I mean, it was a bad call to begin with, but to stick with it in the face of overwhelming evidence that you made the wrong call in the first place really takes balls.

I hadn't actually seen video of the "touchdown" before two minutes ago, and I was impressed. That level of stupidty is truly astounding.


What part is overwhelming? That Jennings touched the ball with two hands first? When, exactly, did Jennings have control of the ball? Was that before, after, or close to the same time Tate had control of the ball? When Jennings is still in the air, Tate takes a hand off the ball and puts it back on - likely for a better grip or better control of the ball, but is that losing control of the ball when you still have it in one hand? When Jennings hits the ground, he takes a hand off the ball and puts it back on - likely for a better grip or better control of the ball - while Tate has the ball in both hands. Does that mean Jennings is losing control of the ball? That also happens to be when the refs move in for a closer look and see that Jennings is trying to take the ball away from Tate. Since they see both players with hands on the ball, it's simultaneous possession and by rule, awarded to the offense.
 
2012-09-27 10:04:59 AM

Treygreen13: FriarReb98: It's called the Inaccurate Reception. Terminology, people.

I like "The Fail Mary" the best.


Yeah...but it doesn't have the timeless ring. I'm sure Myron, god rest his soul, would agree.
 
2012-09-27 10:08:24 AM
The Fail Mary is pretty meta since it succeeded in every conceivable way.

a) the team that threw it got the score and won the game
b) the ensuing whining helped get the regular refs back

All in all, pretty successful. And Treygreen13, I'm kinda shocked that you wouldn't have the Golden Taint be your favorite description of it.
 
2012-09-27 11:05:18 AM

bhcompy: Good for you. I had friends denied basic medication because union longshoremen wanted a large raise on their 6 figure salary for unskilled labor.


This is not the thread for this discussion, but in the words of Pete Hogwallop, "That don't make no sense".

My curiosity is piqued; how did a group of (unskilled, whatever that is, were they Samsonite loading apes?) longshoremen deny your friends basic medication by wanting a raise? I need details. It just seems less than plausible, and more than a bit knee-jerk.

You're a smart guy, bhcompy, my Farkie for you has read for years, "Smart and Funny". That post was beneath you.
 
2012-09-27 11:41:46 AM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: bhcompy: Good for you. I had friends denied basic medication because union longshoremen wanted a large raise on their 6 figure salary for unskilled labor.

This is not the thread for this discussion, but in the words of Pete Hogwallop, "That don't make no sense".

My curiosity is piqued; how did a group of (unskilled, whatever that is, were they Samsonite loading apes?) longshoremen deny your friends basic medication by wanting a raise? I need details. It just seems less than plausible, and more than a bit knee-jerk.

You're a smart guy, bhcompy, my Farkie for you has read for years, "Smart and Funny". That post was beneath you.


There have been various longshoreman strikes at the Port of LA/LB complex in So Cal. That port is particularly important for medicinal imports, and the last lengthy strike resulted in various medicinal shortages in the west, among other issues. They strike for more money(averages in the 6 figures for ports of LA and LB) while they leave certain terminals unused/underutilized because they are too safe(part of their high pay is a result of the hazards of the job) and/or too automated/efficient(reduction in work). I don't have too much respect for them, mostly because they're more than willing to negatively impact the lives of those that depend on the materials that come through the port complexes for their own personal gain when they are already handsomely compensated.
 
2012-09-27 12:04:09 PM

bhcompy: There have been various longshoreman strikes at the Port of LA/LB complex in So Cal. That port is particularly important for medicinal imports, and the last lengthy strike resulted in various medicinal shortages in the west, among other issues. They strike for more money(averages in the 6 figures for ports of LA and LB) while they leave certain terminals unused/underutilized because they are too safe(part of their high pay is a result of the hazards of the job) and/or too automated/efficient(reduction in work). I don't have too much respect for them, mostly because they're more than willing to negatively impact the lives of those that depend on the materials that come through the port complexes for their own personal gain when they are already handsomely compensated.


Thank you for your prompt and detailed post. And I apologize for the facetious and mocking tone of my previous. My brother has dealings daily with the Port of Los Angeles, delivering solar power equipment to a massive new power plant being built in Prim Nevada. Thus far, he's had no problem with them, but that's anecdotal and means nothing. I appreciate your clarification.

In perusing the Port of Los Angeles Shipping News, the only strike I see is the ILWU Clerical Workers Local 63, who have been working for the past two years without a contract. I see that the Longshoremans' Union has been ruled to have the right to sympathy strike, but can find no notice of them acting upon it. However this also means nothing, as I may just be looking at the wrong source.
 
2012-09-27 12:09:07 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: In perusing the Port of Los Angeles Shipping News, the only strike I see is the ILWU Clerical Workers Local 63, who have been working for the past two years without a contract. I see that the Longshoremans' Union has been ruled to have the right to sympathy strike, but can find no notice of them acting upon it. However this also means nothing, as I may just be looking at the wrong source.


There was a significant strike in the early 00s and the late 00s, and another one in the mid 90s, along with various minor skirmishes. Nothing this decade, but, it looks like the east coast ILA locals will be considering a strike very soon. It's been all quiet on the western front for a few years.
 
2012-09-27 12:19:45 PM

bhcompy: There was a significant strike in the early 00s and the late 00s, and another one in the mid 90s, along with various minor skirmishes. Nothing this decade, but, it looks like the east coast ILA locals will be considering a strike very soon. It's been all quiet on the western front for a few years.


I hope it stays that way. In my eight years in the union, we never even hinted at striking. It's a big expensive scary step to take. Fortunately, our company knew that they profited by having our union, although if they could have had their newspapers printed in Mexico and reliably flown north, we'd be locked out in a New York Minute. Businesses are so cutthroat these days. They used to value their employees, and treat them like family. Now they treat the producers of their product like a burden. "If only we could get rid of all these uncouth workers, we could have MORE pie!"
 
2012-09-28 01:17:54 AM

bhcompy: Lsherm: Shaggy_C: The NFL reviewed it and said they made the right call. I'm suuuuuure all you Packer farks would be screaming just as loudly if the call had gone the other way on the field and the NFL called it a bad call after the fact. No, you don't care about the call being right, you just care about your team winning.

I think it's more impressive that they reviewed it and said they made the right call. I mean, it was a bad call to begin with, but to stick with it in the face of overwhelming evidence that you made the wrong call in the first place really takes balls.

I hadn't actually seen video of the "touchdown" before two minutes ago, and I was impressed. That level of stupidty is truly astounding.

The level of stupidity in your reading comprehension skills and understanding how NFL reviews work is truly astounding, as well. They said the following:
1) The call on the field was simultaneous catch - This is factual
2) The simultaneous catch was reviewable in the end zone, and was reviewed - This is factual
3) That there was no indisputable evidence to overturn the call on the field - The only debatable point, and, truly, there is no indisputable evidence that shows only singular possession, only compelling evidence.

They cannot arbitrarily rejudge the call on the field. They are forced to operate within the rules of the review system, which has specific rules for overturning a call on the field.


Ha Ha - you think I follow sports, or that it matters.

/Didn't even know there was a ref walkout until this thread.
//Old band geek getting his amuse on watching you farking idiots lose real money on this game.
 
2012-09-28 02:30:18 AM

Lsherm: Ha Ha - you think I follow sports, or that it matters.


I believe that most reasonable individuals would assume that a person who navigated their way onto a "Sports" forum, then into a thread clearly denoted as pertaining to sports, and finally typed out a response about a sport, would possess at least a passing interest in sports.

But hey, you showed them!
 
2012-09-29 12:20:29 AM

Harv72b: Lsherm: Ha Ha - you think I follow sports, or that it matters.

I believe that most reasonable individuals would assume that a person who navigated their way onto a "Sports" forum, then into a thread clearly denoted as pertaining to sports, and finally typed out a response about a sport, would possess at least a passing interest in sports.

But hey, you showed them!


Got you to respond, didn't I?
 
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