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2012-09-26 07:29:45 PM  
Michigan's not a cupcake?
 
2012-09-26 07:41:34 PM  
They seem to have chewed their way through them pretty easily last weekend.
 
2012-09-26 07:55:14 PM  
So what the actual hell is going on here, why is Notre Dame hooking up with the ACC and not the Big Ten?

I don't get it from Notre Dame's point of view at all, their specialness as a unique midwest school evaporates the minute they go play ACC teams and quit playing teams like Michigan.
 
2012-09-26 08:38:03 PM  

Generation_D: So what the actual hell is going on here, why is Notre Dame hooking up with the ACC and not the Big Ten?

I don't get it from Notre Dame's point of view at all, their specialness as a unique midwest school evaporates the minute they go play ACC teams and quit playing teams like Michigan.


Because the Big Ten fought to keep them out once and this is their revenge.
 
2012-09-26 09:04:14 PM  

Mentat: Generation_D: So what the actual hell is going on here, why is Notre Dame hooking up with the ACC and not the Big Ten?

I don't get it from Notre Dame's point of view at all, their specialness as a unique midwest school evaporates the minute they go play ACC teams and quit playing teams like Michigan.

Because the Big Ten fought to keep them out once and this is their revenge.


If the Big 10 would have taken ND without the football, ND would probably be in the Big 10. But, the Big 10 wouldn't do it without football.

Which was kinda stupid... bring them in, and work on them, and eventually they may bring the football in eventually.
 
2012-09-26 09:12:03 PM  

Mentat: Generation_D: So what the actual hell is going on here, why is Notre Dame hooking up with the ACC and not the Big Ten?

I don't get it from Notre Dame's point of view at all, their specialness as a unique midwest school evaporates the minute they go play ACC teams and quit playing teams like Michigan.

Because the Big Ten fought to keep them out once and this is their revenge.


More than once, if memory serves. They did it for a while, back before they picked up the deals they have now. To me... when you have standing rivalries with at least four of the teams, and have played almost a third of your all-time schedule against teams currently in the conference, it's kind of a biatch move to not join them at this point, especially to spurn them for a conference they barely have a passing interest in in the long run.
 
2012-09-26 09:24:36 PM  

Generation_D: So what the actual hell is going on here, why is Notre Dame hooking up with the ACC and not the Big Ten?


It will accelerate Notre Dame's decline into irrelevancy. Who cares?
 
2012-09-26 09:37:41 PM  

FriarReb98: Mentat: Generation_D: So what the actual hell is going on here, why is Notre Dame hooking up with the ACC and not the Big Ten?

I don't get it from Notre Dame's point of view at all, their specialness as a unique midwest school evaporates the minute they go play ACC teams and quit playing teams like Michigan.

Because the Big Ten fought to keep them out once and this is their revenge.

More than once, if memory serves. They did it for a while, back before they picked up the deals they have now. To me... when you have standing rivalries with at least four of the teams, and have played almost a third of your all-time schedule against teams currently in the conference, it's kind of a biatch move to not join them at this point, especially to spurn them for a conference they barely have a passing interest in in the long run.


Jim Delany thought he could play hardball with Notre Dame and force them to join the conference by blowing up the Big East and Big XII. He ended up with Nebraska.
 
2012-09-26 10:01:01 PM  
Ha! Notice that they waited until AFTER the game to decide this.

If they lost last weekend they wouldn't have announced anything. They wanted to exit on a win.

Who knows, they might have been planning this announcement for years, but they lost the last 3 times.
 
2012-09-26 10:02:05 PM  
If they joined the Big 10, they would have gotten to play Indiana and Minnesota every year. Thems some delicious cupcakes.
 
2012-09-26 10:06:21 PM  

Christian Bale: Ha! Notice that they waited until AFTER the game to decide this.

If they lost last weekend they wouldn't have announced anything. They wanted to exit on a win.

Who knows, they might have been planning this announcement for years, but they lost the last 3 times.


Ummmmm, no. What you said is the opposite of the truth. If you rtfa you will see that Notre Dame delivered the notice prior to the start of the last game.
 
2012-09-26 10:08:11 PM  

Christian Bale: Ha! Notice that they waited until AFTER the game to decide this.

If they lost last weekend they wouldn't have announced anything. They wanted to exit on a win.

Who knows, they might have been planning this announcement for years, but they lost the last 3 times.


Protip: read the article.
 
2012-09-26 10:14:17 PM  

timujin: They seem to have chewed their way through them pretty easily last weekend.


... did you actually watch the game at all? Michigan entirely deserved to lose, but to say that the Irish easily chewed through them is delusional. Denard Robinson played the worst game of his college career, quite possibly set a record for most consecutive passes intercepted (4! FOUR! Not 4 interceptions in the game, 4 straight passes thrown by Denard that were intercepted!), and Michigan was still within a touchdown at the end.

And now they're ranked in the top 10?

imapirate: Michigan's not a cupcake?


No, Michigan isn't a cupcake. Well, I should qualify that comment - Michigan has the talent and coaching to keep it from being a cupcake team, regardless of how much effort the Quarterback seems to be putting into giving the ball to the opposition.

/M Go Blue!
//This is gonna be a very painful year for us Michigan fans.
 
2012-09-26 10:15:30 PM  
Someone say 'cupcakes'?
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2012-09-26 10:17:46 PM  
You know, if they'd join a conference and actually try to play a tough schedule, I'd have infinitely more respect for the Irish.
 
2012-09-26 10:18:02 PM  
I like that this is the best headline which a Michigan fan can come up with after losing to Notre Dame.
 
2012-09-26 10:20:22 PM  

dookdookdook: Someone say 'cupcakes'?
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Dude, no ponies in the college ball threads. Unless it's about the Boise State Broncos, I guess. They've got the Smurf Turf, so why not stick them with another bit of '80s nostalgia?
 
2012-09-26 10:23:59 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Dude, no ponies in the college ball threads.


Eff that.

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2012-09-26 10:26:31 PM  

WoodyHayes: I like that this is the best headline which a Michigan fan can come up with after losing to Notre Dame.


Any Michigan fan that thinks Michigan didn't deserve to lose that game is an idiot. Denard shat the bed pretty damn bad.
 
2012-09-26 10:27:44 PM  
Michigan is a cupcake at this point. I doubt it will change for a couple of years yet.
 
2012-09-26 10:31:07 PM  
The B1G is old man football.
 
2012-09-26 10:40:07 PM  

Mentat: Jim Delany thought he could play hardball with Notre Dame and force them to join the conference by blowing up the Big East and Big XII. He ended up with Nebraska.


He didn't have to settle for Missouri though, so that's a win.
 
2012-09-26 10:43:09 PM  

WoodyHayes: I like that this is the best headline which a Michigan fan can come up with after losing to Notre Dame.


Sure, because UM fans are the only fans who hate ND.

I wonder who else ND is going to drop so they can start scheduling two FCS teams like everyone else in the top 25
 
2012-09-26 10:51:00 PM  

bumblebutt: Mentat: Jim Delany thought he could play hardball with Notre Dame and force them to join the conference by blowing up the Big East and Big XII. He ended up with Nebraska.

He didn't have to settle for Missouri though, so that's a win.


True. You can't underestimate the value of having 12 AAU schools in your conference.

Oh, wait...
 
2012-09-26 10:59:59 PM  

WoodyHayes: I like that this is the best headline which a Michigan fan can come up with after losing to Notre Dame.


ND only won by 1 TD after 6 turnovers....thats the only thing less embarrassing than committing 6 turnovers.
 
2012-09-26 11:02:35 PM  
This makes a lot of sense. Go to the ACC, but play an abbreviated conference schedule and you get to keep games against Stanford and USC. So they will be playing major games against East and West coast teams in major TV markets every year. Great way to keep the brand relevant and promote recruiting.
 
2012-09-26 11:04:23 PM  

dletter: Mentat: Generation_D: So what the actual hell is going on here, why is Notre Dame hooking up with the ACC and not the Big Ten?

I don't get it from Notre Dame's point of view at all, their specialness as a unique midwest school evaporates the minute they go play ACC teams and quit playing teams like Michigan.

Because the Big Ten fought to keep them out once and this is their revenge.

If the Big 10 would have taken ND without the football, ND would probably be in the Big 10. But, the Big 10 wouldn't do it without football.

Which was kinda stupid... bring them in, and work on them, and eventually they may bring the football in eventually.


Well, I can see the "no special rights for Notre Dame" aspect. But on the other hand, now Notre Dame Football is going to be part of the ACC, which if that isn't the Esclade parked next to the trailer park I don't know what is.
 
2012-09-26 11:04:40 PM  
I have no connection to either team but love watching this game every year. As somebody who thrives on tradition this makes me sad.
 
2012-09-26 11:18:04 PM  
How is Appalacia State doing?
HEHEHE!
 
2012-09-26 11:40:33 PM  

The Slush: WoodyHayes: I like that this is the best headline which a Michigan fan can come up with after losing to Notre Dame.

Sure, because UM fans are the only fans who hate ND.

I wonder who else ND is going to drop so they can start scheduling two FCS teams like everyone else in the top 25SEC


FTFY
 
2012-09-26 11:47:56 PM  
if they really were to develop a taste for cupcakes, they'd probably try to end their relationship with usc
 
2012-09-26 11:55:06 PM  

imapirate: Michigan's not a cupcake?


Let's ask Nick Saban.
 
2012-09-26 11:59:36 PM  

NotEric: The Slush: WoodyHayes: I like that this is the best headline which a Michigan fan can come up with after losing to Notre Dame.

Sure, because UM fans are the only fans who hate ND.

I wonder who else ND is going to drop so they can start scheduling two FCS teams like everyone else in the top 25SEC

FTFY


Yeah, some in the pac12 schedule 3, well oregon did have one against fresno state but its barely a fbs team, hell they will probably finish under .500 in the MWC.
 
2012-09-27 12:10:14 AM  

steamingpile: NotEric: The Slush: WoodyHayes: I like that this is the best headline which a Michigan fan can come up with after losing to Notre Dame.

Sure, because UM fans are the only fans who hate ND.

I wonder who else ND is going to drop so they can start scheduling two FCS teams like everyone else in the top 25SEC

FTFY

Yeah, some in the pac12 schedule 3, well oregon did have one against fresno state but its barely a fbs team, hell they will probably finish under .500 in the MWC.


Only because an SEC team backed out of their scheduled game this year (I forget if it was Georgia or Tennessee this year). Pussies.
 
2012-09-27 12:39:47 AM  
No see they are going to start playing more ACC teams not cupcakes...oh. I see what you did there.

/ACC was pants on head stupid to take them without football

//Maybe ND promised to join later in football but we all know how much promises are worth in the conference alignment Game of Thrones
 
2012-09-27 01:53:44 AM  

steamingpile:
Yeah, some in the pac12 schedule 3, well oregon did have one against fresno state but its barely a fbs team, hell they will probably finish under .500 in the MWC.


While talking out of your ass is not an unusual occurrence for you...

No Pac 12 team schedules 3 FCS teams. It would be virtually impossible along with conference play, especially with the requirement to host at least 5 games against another FBS opponent.

Meanwhile, every single SEC team (every one of them) is playing an FCS opponent this year. Many of them in November.

Two of the three teams to have never scheduled a game against an FCS team are in the Pac 12. (Notre Dame is the third).
 
2012-09-27 02:13:08 AM  

js34603: No see they are going to start playing more ACC teams not cupcakes...oh. I see what you did there.

/ACC was pants on head stupid to take them without football

//Maybe ND promised to join later in football but we all know how much promises are worth in the conference alignment Game of Thrones


As soon as ND joined, the ACC raised its buyout to $50 million; no one is leaving that conference right now.

Also, ND's contract with NBC ends in 2015. It will likely join then if it doesn't want to get left out of playoffs.
 
2012-09-27 05:52:19 AM  

dletter: Mentat: Generation_D: So what the actual hell is going on here, why is Notre Dame hooking up with the ACC and not the Big Ten?

I don't get it from Notre Dame's point of view at all, their specialness as a unique midwest school evaporates the minute they go play ACC teams and quit playing teams like Michigan.

Because the Big Ten fought to keep them out once and this is their revenge.

If the Big 10 would have taken ND without the football, ND would probably be in the Big 10. But, the Big 10 wouldn't do it without football.

Which was kinda stupid... bring them in, and work on them, and eventually they may bring the football in eventually.


Without football, what the hell is the point of Bringing in Notre Dame? Fencing?
 
2012-09-27 07:51:39 AM  

I sound fat: dletter: Mentat: Generation_D: So what the actual hell is going on here, why is Notre Dame hooking up with the ACC and not the Big Ten?

I don't get it from Notre Dame's point of view at all, their specialness as a unique midwest school evaporates the minute they go play ACC teams and quit playing teams like Michigan.

Because the Big Ten fought to keep them out once and this is their revenge.

If the Big 10 would have taken ND without the football, ND would probably be in the Big 10. But, the Big 10 wouldn't do it without football.

Which was kinda stupid... bring them in, and work on them, and eventually they may bring the football in eventually.

Without football, what the hell is the point of Bringing in Notre Dame? Fencing?


Their basketball team has been decent to pretty good the last few years. Their hockey team is pretty well respected as well I thought, and I thought the Big Ten was trying to pull all their schools back in from the other conferences to make their own hockey conference, or was that scuttled?
 
2012-09-27 08:00:51 AM  

gtfan92: js34603: No see they are going to start playing more ACC teams not cupcakes...oh. I see what you did there.

/ACC was pants on head stupid to take them without football

//Maybe ND promised to join later in football but we all know how much promises are worth in the conference alignment Game of Thrones

As soon as ND joined, the ACC raised its buyout to $50 million; no one is leaving that conference right now.

Also, ND's contract with NBC ends in 2015. It will likely join then if it doesn't want to get left out of playoffs.


Yeah the ACC didn't get the football team so ND won't have to pay shiat to join a different conference in football or to remain independent.

Funny, people were saying the BCS would make them join a conference too, but instead the BCS just made a special little place just for them. Wouldn't be surprised if the new playoff system did the same thing.

And there really is no reason to have them without football. Their basketball team is mediocre by ACC standards and I haven't ever heard of them playing baseball. Hockey? Pretty sure they don't even play hockey in the ACC except at club level.

So basically the ACC got another member to divvy up the money with that didn't even commit its best asset. Great for Notre Dame, stupid for ACC.
 
2012-09-27 08:33:14 AM  

chuggernaught: This makes a lot of sense. Go to the ACC, but play an abbreviated conference schedule and you get to keep games against Stanford and USC. So they will be playing major games against East and West coast teams in major TV markets every year. Great way to keep the brand relevant and promote recruiting.


Wow, someone actually understands this decision. Thank you, sir.
 
2012-09-27 08:39:59 AM  
Yes Michigan is still dealing with the remnants of the whole RickRod fiasco and will be for some time to come. Not to worry though, Notre Dame has their share of ass beatings waiting for them coming up soon enough.
 
2012-09-27 09:54:57 AM  

js34603: gtfan92: js34603: No see they are going to start playing more ACC teams not cupcakes...oh. I see what you did there.

/ACC was pants on head stupid to take them without football

//Maybe ND promised to join later in football but we all know how much promises are worth in the conference alignment Game of Thrones

As soon as ND joined, the ACC raised its buyout to $50 million; no one is leaving that conference right now.

Also, ND's contract with NBC ends in 2015. It will likely join then if it doesn't want to get left out of playoffs.

Yeah the ACC didn't get the football team so ND won't have to pay shiat to join a different conference in football or to remain independent.

Funny, people were saying the BCS would make them join a conference too, but instead the BCS just made a special little place just for them. Wouldn't be surprised if the new playoff system did the same thing.

And there really is no reason to have them without football. Their basketball team is mediocre by ACC standards and I haven't ever heard of them playing baseball. Hockey? Pretty sure they don't even play hockey in the ACC except at club level.

So basically the ACC got another member to divvy up the money with that didn't even commit its best asset. Great for Notre Dame, stupid for ACC.


Which was kinda my point with the Big Ten.... ND basketball would have been competitive in the Big 10.... I rechecked and Big 10 is starting their 6 team Hockey conference in 2013, so, ND could have made it 7 and they probably could have another school start up hockey in a few years to make it 8 teams eventually. Just seems like the Big 10 was very short sighted to not just let ND in without football initially.
 
2012-09-27 11:03:20 AM  

dletter: js34603: gtfan92: js34603: No see they are going to start playing more ACC teams not cupcakes...oh. I see what you did there.

/ACC was pants on head stupid to take them without football

//Maybe ND promised to join later in football but we all know how much promises are worth in the conference alignment Game of Thrones

As soon as ND joined, the ACC raised its buyout to $50 million; no one is leaving that conference right now.

Also, ND's contract with NBC ends in 2015. It will likely join then if it doesn't want to get left out of playoffs.

Yeah the ACC didn't get the football team so ND won't have to pay shiat to join a different conference in football or to remain independent.

Funny, people were saying the BCS would make them join a conference too, but instead the BCS just made a special little place just for them. Wouldn't be surprised if the new playoff system did the same thing.

And there really is no reason to have them without football. Their basketball team is mediocre by ACC standards and I haven't ever heard of them playing baseball. Hockey? Pretty sure they don't even play hockey in the ACC except at club level.

So basically the ACC got another member to divvy up the money with that didn't even commit its best asset. Great for Notre Dame, stupid for ACC.

Which was kinda my point with the Big Ten.... ND basketball would have been competitive in the Big 10.... I rechecked and Big 10 is starting their 6 team Hockey conference in 2013, so, ND could have made it 7 and they probably could have another school start up hockey in a few years to make it 8 teams eventually. Just seems like the Big 10 was very short sighted to not just let ND in without football initially.


Notre Dame would never join the big ten, no matter how much sense it makes. Michigan blackballed Notre Dame from joining years back, which made Notre Dame what it is today. They had to take their schedule national because the anti-catholic coach of Michigan convinced all Big Ten, or then Midwestern conference members to not schedule Notre Dame.
 
2012-09-27 12:24:16 PM  

mynameist: The B1G is old man football.


No football program is more "old man" than Notre Dame. It's a perfect fit!
 
2012-09-27 03:13:52 PM  

ScouserDuck: Only because an SEC team backed out of their scheduled game this year (I forget if it was Georgia or Tennessee this year). Pussies.


Yeah, they didnt back out, the conference cancelled it because of conference expansion, but hey the pac 12 added two quality teams the last expansion, right?!?!

NotEric: While talking out of your ass is not an unusual occurrence for you...

No Pac 12 team schedules 3 FCS teams. It would be virtually impossible along with conference play, especially with the requirement to host at least 5 games against another FBS opponent.

Meanwhile, every single SEC team (every one of them) is playing an FCS opponent this year. Many of them in November.

Two of the three teams to have never scheduled a game against an FCS team are in the Pac 12. (Notre Dame is the third).


ND has been a fcs level school recently.....

November, yeah homecoming perhaps? When every schools tries to schedule their weakest team.......

I was mocking oregon who played 2 fcs schools the first few weeks with fresno state in between.
 
2012-09-27 04:09:54 PM  
How can you possibly know so little about college football? Oregon played a Sun Belt team, a Mountain West team, and then 1 FCS team.

And Notre Dame was never an FCS school. The fact that you believe this is mind boggling. Do you even know what the FCS is?
 
2012-09-27 06:05:38 PM  

Techhell: ... did you actually watch the game at all


sort of... I watched it with a girl who went to Notre Dame and a guy who went to Michigan State... so the experience was kind of one-sided.

/the really fun part was that they each hate the others' school, but not as much as they hate UM.
 
2012-09-28 10:45:26 PM  

steamingpile: ScouserDuck: Only because an SEC team backed out of their scheduled game this year (I forget if it was Georgia or Tennessee this year). Pussies.

Yeah, they didnt back out, the conference cancelled it because of conference expansion, but hey the pac 12 added two quality teams the last expansion, right?!?!

NotEric: While talking out of your ass is not an unusual occurrence for you...

No Pac 12 team schedules 3 FCS teams. It would be virtually impossible along with conference play, especially with the requirement to host at least 5 games against another FBS opponent.

Meanwhile, every single SEC team (every one of them) is playing an FCS opponent this year. Many of them in November.

Two of the three teams to have never scheduled a game against an FCS team are in the Pac 12. (Notre Dame is the third).

ND has been a fcs level school recently.....

November, yeah homecoming perhaps? When every schools tries to schedule their weakest team.......

I was mocking oregon who played 2 fcs schools the first few weeks with fresno state in between.


Actually we're both wrong about this year. This year Kansas state and new Mexico both backed out.

http://www2.registerguard.com/cms/index.php/duck-football/comments/or e gons-scheduling-challenges-and-why-tennessee-tech-is-coming-to-town/
 
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