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(Political Wire)   Yes, Bill Clinton could run for president again. Just not in the United States   (politicalwire.com) divider line 77
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2012-09-26 09:47:15 PM
"And because I was born in Arkansas, which is part of the Louisiana Purchase, any person anywhere in the world that was born in a place that ever was part of the French empire, if you move to -- if you live in France for six months and speak French, you can run for president."

If this is true, I got a shot too.
cool.
 
2012-09-26 10:51:19 PM
I love that he spent the time to figure those out.
 
2012-09-26 10:52:23 PM
Je suis de Nouvelle Orleans. Comment m'inscris je?


\clearly I have to work on my Francois
\\I don't think an online translator will cut the dijon
 
2012-09-26 10:54:24 PM
He sounds French.
 
2012-09-26 10:54:55 PM
I like him as a likeable, American statesman. Despite perceptions here with some he has credibility and respect in the world community. He's a great communicator and has an endearing thing going on. In my opinion he's a cool mofo.
 
2012-09-26 10:55:30 PM
The best part for Bill would be that in France, boinking the interns is practically in the job description!
 
2012-09-26 10:55:40 PM
He should go for the record and try and collect both. Plus I bet the french would approve of the ole bj during your coffee break.
 
2012-09-26 10:55:54 PM
Actually, he could, couldn't he?

[checks Constitution]

Oh, right. Cleveland got his non-consecutive terms in before FDR's amendment.
 
2012-09-26 10:56:07 PM

andrewagill: He sounds French.


Haha, yeah he's surrendered to the idea that he won't be president again.
 
2012-09-26 10:56:44 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-26 10:57:27 PM
If it wasn't for term limits he's be running for his 6th term right now.
 
2012-09-26 10:57:41 PM
And bonus, he won't be impeached for having flings in France.

Affairs and Lovers are "understood" there, by the public.
Hillary is another matter...
 
2012-09-26 10:59:38 PM

Gyrfalcon: Actually, he could, couldn't he?

[checks Constitution]

Oh, right. Cleveland got his non-consecutive terms in before FDR's amendment.


Cleveland only served two terms. Non-consecutive terms could still happen. The 22nd amendment only limits you to being elected more than twice.
 
2012-09-26 10:59:56 PM

rudemix: I like him as a likeable, American statesman. Despite perceptions here with some he has credibility and respect in the world community. He's a great communicator and has an endearing thing going on. In my opinion he's a cool mofo.


He does have that everyman quality that most farkers can relate to: a strong desire to bed unattractive fat girls.
 
2012-09-26 11:02:53 PM
Let's not forget: Clinton's Presidency was the catalyst behind Drudge, Coulter, Malkin, etc.

Does he really want to risk creating a french version of those things? The french are insufferable enough already.

/francophone
//Clinton fan
/// les slashies
 
2012-09-26 11:03:28 PM

thornhill: Gyrfalcon: Actually, he could, couldn't he?

[checks Constitution]

Oh, right. Cleveland got his non-consecutive terms in before FDR's amendment.

Cleveland only served two terms. Non-consecutive terms could still happen. The 22nd amendment only limits you to being elected more than twice.


If Clinton ran again, he'd have been elected three times (1992, 1996, and whenever he tried again).

I'm not clear--does the 22d Amd. prohibit only consecutive third terms? Or does it allow non-consecutive terms?
 
2012-09-26 11:04:31 PM

max_pooper: rudemix: I like him as a likeable, American statesman. Despite perceptions here with some he has credibility and respect in the world community. He's a great communicator and has an endearing thing going on. In my opinion he's a cool mofo.

He does have that everyman quality that most farkers can relate to: a strong desire to bed unattractive fat girls.


Fark that. I only want to bed good-looking fat girls. I have standards.
 
2012-09-26 11:10:22 PM

Gyrfalcon: thornhill: Gyrfalcon: Actually, he could, couldn't he?

[checks Constitution]

Oh, right. Cleveland got his non-consecutive terms in before FDR's amendment.

Cleveland only served two terms. Non-consecutive terms could still happen. The 22nd amendment only limits you to being elected more than twice.

If Clinton ran again, he'd have been elected three times (1992, 1996, and whenever he tried again).

I'm not clear--does the 22d Amd. prohibit only consecutive third terms? Or does it allow non-consecutive terms?


It straight up says you can not be elected to more than two terms or one term if you were president for more than two years during a term in which somebody else was elected.

The maximum a person can be president is one day under ten years. Said person would have to be vice president in which the president dies, resigns or is removed from office on the 1st day of his third year and then said person would go on to win two more elections.

There is some debate on whether a two term ex-president could run for and be elected vice president.
 
2012-09-26 11:10:59 PM

Gyrfalcon: thornhill: Gyrfalcon: Actually, he could, couldn't he?

[checks Constitution]

Oh, right. Cleveland got his non-consecutive terms in before FDR's amendment.

Cleveland only served two terms. Non-consecutive terms could still happen. The 22nd amendment only limits you to being elected more than twice.

If Clinton ran again, he'd have been elected three times (1992, 1996, and whenever he tried again).

I'm not clear--does the 22d Amd. prohibit only consecutive third terms? Or does it allow non-consecutive terms?


The Twenty-Second Amendment:

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.


You cannot being elected President more than once. Clinton has been elected twice, so he's done.

The Amendment says nothing about consecutive terms, so if Obama were to lose, he could still run again in 2016 because he was only elected once.
 
2012-09-26 11:19:37 PM

Fart_Machine: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 300x266]


Classic stuff. I think that's when I got into politics. I must have been in Grade 11.

/Canadian
 
2012-09-26 11:20:52 PM
I wonder if Obama will be eligible to run for President of Kenya in 2016?
 
2012-09-26 11:21:39 PM

thornhill: You cannot being elected President more than once. Clinton has been elected twice, so he's done.

The Amendment says nothing about consecutive terms...


It also says nothing about non-elected Presidents.

Obama should make Bill Clinton Vice President in late 2016 and then resign.

For the lulz. and the heads asploding.
 
2012-09-26 11:21:55 PM

max_pooper: Gyrfalcon: thornhill: Gyrfalcon: Actually, he could, couldn't he?

[checks Constitution]

Oh, right. Cleveland got his non-consecutive terms in before FDR's amendment.

Cleveland only served two terms. Non-consecutive terms could still happen. The 22nd amendment only limits you to being elected more than twice.

If Clinton ran again, he'd have been elected three times (1992, 1996, and whenever he tried again).

I'm not clear--does the 22d Amd. prohibit only consecutive third terms? Or does it allow non-consecutive terms?

It straight up says you can not be elected to more than two terms or one term if you were president for more than two years during a term in which somebody else was elected.

The maximum a person can be president is one day under ten years. Said person would have to be vice president in which the president dies, resigns or is removed from office on the 1st day of his third year and then said person would go on to win two more elections.

There is some debate on whether a two term ex-president could run for and be elected vice president.


If it went to the Supreme Court, it would come down to how literal the Court wants to be.

Whatever the legislative intent was, the Amendment specifically says "elected," saying nothing about succession. So the court could either go with what they believe the legislative intent was, say that the amendment says nothing about an ex-president becoming president through succession.
 
2012-09-26 11:23:20 PM

winterbraid: Let's not forget: Clinton's Presidency was the catalyst behind Drudge, Coulter, Malkin, etc.

Does he really want to risk creating a french version of those things? The french are insufferable enough already.

/francophone
//Clinton fan
/// les slashies


But the French have Melissa Theriau! I think they have us beat! ;-)
 
2012-09-26 11:23:27 PM
Couldn't he endlessly be elected vice president and then have the elected president step down?
 
2012-09-26 11:23:27 PM

max_pooper: Je suis de Nouvelle Orleans. Comment m'inscris je?


\clearly I have to work on my Francois
\\I don't think an online translator will cut the dijon


Work on your English first. It's "cut the muster".
 
2012-09-26 11:23:43 PM

jaytkay: thornhill: You cannot being elected President more than once. Clinton has been elected twice, so he's done.

The Amendment says nothing about consecutive terms...

It also says nothing about non-elected Presidents.

Obama should make Bill Clinton Vice President in late 2016 and then resign.

For the lulz. and the heads asploding.


That wouldn't make any sense because Clinton couldn't run for reelection. Obama would want to resign on day 1 of his term so that Clinton could have a full term.
 
2012-09-26 11:26:48 PM

Foolkiller: Couldn't he endlessly be elected vice president and then have the elected president step down?


In theory, yes. Like I said in my previous post, it would come down to if the Supreme Court would consider legislative intent or base their ruling solely on what the words of the 22nd Amendment are.
 
2012-09-26 11:27:17 PM
I was born in fort smith Arkansas and i grew up in Oklahoma.

I only speak broken Spanish and Cherokee, & well to be honest engrish.

/although my mother was an English teacher and I speak the language as well as it suits my needs.
//maybe I could do the same with French with a little work
///and become the French Ron Paul
////rail against French government while being president for decades
 
2012-09-26 11:30:02 PM

thornhill: If it wasn't for term limits he's be running for his 6th term right now.


I'd vote for him, and I can totally afford skanky looking hookers to throw him beej every once in a while too.

'Cause Bill likes the skanky ones!
 
2012-09-26 11:30:10 PM
Bill needs a more visible role. How 'bout the Supreme Court? Assuming Roberts has a heart attack when he learns of him being named Associate Justice, he could potentially be Chief Justice.
Think of Scalia's face.
So many heads would explode.
 
2012-09-26 11:32:16 PM

max_pooper: rudemix: I like him as a likeable, American statesman. Despite perceptions here with some he has credibility and respect in the world community. He's a great communicator and has an endearing thing going on. In my opinion he's a cool mofo.

He does have that everyman quality that most farkers can relate to: a strong desire to bed unattractive fat girls.


You're dang right!
 
2012-09-26 11:32:42 PM
"However, I once polled very well in a French presidential race. And I said, you know, this is great, but that's the best I'd ever do because once they heard my broken French with a Southern accent, I would drop into single digits within a week and I'd be toast."

One might say, French... toast.
 
2012-09-26 11:33:22 PM

TsarTom: Bill needs a more visible role. How 'bout the Supreme Court? Assuming Roberts has a heart attack when he learns of him being named Associate Justice, he could potentially be Chief Justice.
Think of Scalia's face.
So many heads would explode.


Which I think would be a first. I don't think any former president has even been a Supreme Court justice, much less Chief Justice.
 
2012-09-26 11:33:48 PM
The King of Thailand could be elected president since he was born in Massachusetts (If only he could find the damned birth certificate).

Fun fact: He has been king since before Bill Clinton was even born.
 
2012-09-26 11:35:32 PM

wjmorris3: TsarTom: Bill needs a more visible role. How 'bout the Supreme Court? Assuming Roberts has a heart attack when he learns of him being named Associate Justice, he could potentially be Chief Justice.
Think of Scalia's face.
So many heads would explode.

Which I think would be a first. I don't think any former president has even been a Supreme Court justice, much less Chief Justice.


You talkin' bout Taft, mothafarka!
 
2012-09-26 11:39:14 PM

thornhill: jaytkay: thornhill: You cannot being elected President more than once. Clinton has been elected twice, so he's done.

The Amendment says nothing about consecutive terms...

It also says nothing about non-elected Presidents.

Obama should make Bill Clinton Vice President in late 2016 and then resign.

For the lulz. and the heads asploding.

That wouldn't make any sense because Clinton couldn't run for reelection. Obama would want to resign on day 1 of his term so that Clinton could have a full term.


Yes, I understand Clinton could not run again. I'm just saying Obama could make Bill President again for a couple of months - for the lulz.
 
2012-09-26 11:43:06 PM

TsarTom: "And because I was born in Arkansas, which is part of the Louisiana Purchase, any person anywhere in the world that was born in a place that ever was part of the French empire, if you move to -- if you live in France for six months and speak French, you can run for president."

If this is true, I got a shot too.
cool.


Apparently it's easier then that, all you have to be in a French citizen which, if you don't have an French parents, means you have to have lived in France for 5 years, have good moral standing (no serious criminal background) and past a test that proves you've integrated into French society. So basically you don't have to born in France or have French parents as far as I can tell to be president. if you are from Britain, Australia or America you don't even have to give up your citizenship there since they allow dual nationality.

Insistently you only need to be 18yo to be President of France, so giving the above if you where born in the US, then move to France at 18, you could file for dual citizenship, become president of France at the age of 25 (citizen process in France can take 2 years), serve to your 30 (they have 5yr terms), move back to the US permanently and run for Present here when you reach the age of 44.
 
2012-09-26 11:44:34 PM

max_pooper: There is some debate on whether a two term ex-president could run for and be elected vice president.


Actually, no, it's pretty clear.

The Twelfth Amendment states that "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." 
 
2012-09-26 11:45:45 PM
FTA: once they heard my broken French with a Southern accent, I would drop into single digits within a week and I'd be toast

Mmmm, French Toast.
 
2012-09-26 11:58:15 PM

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: wjmorris3: TsarTom: Bill needs a more visible role. How 'bout the Supreme Court? Assuming Roberts has a heart attack when he learns of him being named Associate Justice, he could potentially be Chief Justice.
Think of Scalia's face.
So many heads would explode.

Which I think would be a first. I don't think any former president has even been a Supreme Court justice, much less Chief Justice.

You talkin' bout Taft, mothafarka!


and Gov of the Philippines, and US Sol General, and from the bathtube issue lost 80 lbs after he left office.

but mostly bathtube prez.
 
2012-09-27 12:04:35 AM

rudemix: I like him as a likeable, American statesman. Despite perceptions here with some he has credibility and respect in the world community. He's a great communicator and has an endearing thing going on. In my opinion he's a cool mofo.


my only problem with President Clinton is the harpie shrew biatch he's married to. other than that I say put him back on the throne.
 
2012-09-27 12:09:54 AM
remember when newt gingrich shut down the gov't cuz of a tax increase, but then gave in Bill Clinton and taxes went up, we balanced the budget and the economy grew. Good times.
 
2012-09-27 12:10:45 AM
You are all missing the important bit. Clinton said he could run from President in 2 countries, France and Ireland. Then he clearly ruled out France.

CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT OF IRELAND 2018!!
 
2012-09-27 12:14:48 AM
Actually Mr. Clinton was wrong in suggesting he could only be the leader in 2 countries. He could run for Prime Minister in Canada if he obtained citizenship. I assume this would hold true for most if not all Commonwealth states but I am too lazy to look it up.

/he would have my vote
//damn Creepy McSweatervest
 
2012-09-27 12:15:08 AM

The Thoroughbred of Sin: You are all missing the important bit. Clinton said he could run from President in 2 countries, France and Ireland. Then he clearly ruled out France.

CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT OF IRELAND 2018!!


I'm sure they would have an enormous outpouring of support for a Baptist candidate.
 
2012-09-27 12:24:23 AM
I love Bill Cliton. I guess being a womanizing piece of shiat can be endeering. lol
 
2012-09-27 12:29:08 AM
I told my son about this and he said that he'd love to see Bill Clinton as president of France. For that matter, so would I.
 
2012-09-27 12:34:19 AM

The Thoroughbred of Sin: Actually Mr. Clinton was wrong in suggesting he could only be the leader in 2 countries. He could run for Prime Minister in Canada if he obtained citizenship. I assume this would hold true for most if not all Commonwealth states but I am too lazy to look it up.

/he would have my vote
//damn Creepy McSweatervest


I was thinking the same thing. Canada is a real country, not just the 51st state, I swear! Maybe he didn't count us because it would take longer to become eligible than in France and he'd still have to be able to speak French?

Let's just hope this plan doesn't occur to Romney, who iirc already speaks French.
 
2012-09-27 12:40:00 AM
The Quebecois should get him. He'd probably make some pretty convincing separation speeches.
 
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