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(Bozeman Daily Chronicle)   Muslim customer posts question to ice cream company's Facebook page, asking if their products contains pork gelatin. Dairy's CEO: "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan." Bonus: customer is from Sheridan, Wyoming   (bozemandailychronicle.com) divider line 248
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2012-09-27 12:05:01 PM
I always suspected Wyoming was a foul den of Wahhabism.
 
2012-09-27 12:07:24 PM
Geez fricking muslims and liberals crying and making drama when they're stupid beliefs are rightly ridiculed.

/don't need no stinkin preview button
 
2012-09-27 12:08:20 PM
Sure was easy to favorite someone as "willfully ignorant xenophobe" from this thread.

Really went out of his way to lump 1 billion people into a nice, tiny basket, while giving every Christian a pass. But he's an ATHEIST, of course...
 
2012-09-27 12:24:44 PM
To be fair, Sheridan, Wyoming is outside of Montana.
 
2012-09-27 12:25:30 PM
So what else is new?

Link


It's all been said before
 
2012-09-27 12:33:21 PM

This text is now purple: impaler: xria: Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.

But the market system is far from perfect, so businesses that practice bigotry against minorities will more often than not get away with doing it for as long as they care to (unless their behavior becomes widely noticed and disapproved of enough by the majority of their customers enough to actually change their purchasing decisions, but that is pretty rare).

As illustrated by:
[www.local12.com image 280x280]

The market worked just fine. There's no rule that says you get final approval over the market's actions.


True. My statement was also intended to mention that it's dumb capitalism because you can prevent a large percentage of your sales just from bigotry alone depending on the area and the group you are against. It's weapons grade stupid.
 
2012-09-27 01:05:50 PM

Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.


Except watch when this dairy becomes the next Chik-fil-a for Montana blogger-patriots.
 
2012-09-27 01:13:24 PM
Are you trying to tell me there are racists and xenophobes in Montana?!?!?!?



I, for one, am SHOCKED at that accusation.
 
2012-09-27 01:17:53 PM

BarkingUnicorn: In TFA's sidebar there's a link to an earlier story: a history and profile of the ice cream company.
This is a lot of butthurt over a 100 year-old firm that employs 22 people.
FWIW, the second story says the firm delivers to Cody and Sheridan, Wyoming.


It's good ice cream, I can tell you that much. Maybe the guy assumed the asker was foreign because of his terrible writing and grammar. He's still a dumbass, but I'd discount anyone who asked me a question and addressed me as "U" too.

Tommy Moo: The cynic in me imagines that something like this will go over pretty well in Montana... to the point of possibly gaining them more customers than they will lose.


well, you're not ignorant either, are you? Now I have to challenge you to a duel. Because I live in Montana and that's just how we roll here.

I can assure you that this "controversy" from Reddit will affect the buying habits of about two people who like Wilcoxson's ice cream.
 
2012-09-27 01:27:59 PM

brigid_fitch: Not only that, why the hell didn't he just answer the question? Would it be that hard to just call your supplier and find out? Nooo, he wasn't being racist (or bigoted, in this case) at all...


He even knew the answer that it's kosher gelatin but decided to be an ass.
 
2012-09-27 01:31:00 PM
Ice cream isn't mentioned in the Koran which means Muslims aren't permitted to eat it.
This whole thing is ridiculous.
 
2012-09-27 01:48:09 PM
nmemkha: 1. People ate pigs. Some got weird ailments
2. People who did not eat pigs, did not get sick
3. Wizard, "The aligments are caused by the of goat demons infesting pig's magic skull jello!"
4. Schmuck, "No demons for me, thanks!"
5. King, "You know we should write this pig thing down, but make me a hero or something. Also, add a dragon."


Specious conjecture. There are many more common pathogens that swine-borne parasites that the Bible is silent on. And cultures all around the ancient world ate pig with no problems (surprise, cooking helps!).

And what possible benefit could be gained from avoiding mixing meat and dairy? Should we assume some king was lactose intolerant and said "God said no milk in my stew!"?

It's far more likely that it was either a superstition that got encoded in law, or a way of affirming tribal identity ("we don't eat pigs, those dirty Egyptians do. Also we don't wear blended fabrics, they are an abomination."
 
2012-09-27 01:58:07 PM
So... is this overly politically correct liberal outrage or overly culturally sensitive muslim outrage?

Also, who the fark puts pork gelatin in ice cream?
 
2012-09-27 02:21:01 PM

evilboyevil: So... is this overly politically correct liberal outrage or overly culturally sensitive muslim outrage?

Also, who the fark puts pork gelatin in ice cream?


You're an idiot. There's gelatin in lots of stuff. And if it's not pork in the ice cream, its seaweed.
 
2012-09-27 02:27:31 PM

HailRobonia: nmemkha: 1. People ate pigs. Some got weird ailments
2. People who did not eat pigs, did not get sick
3. Wizard, "The aligments are caused by the of goat demons infesting pig's magic skull jello!"
4. Schmuck, "No demons for me, thanks!"
5. King, "You know we should write this pig thing down, but make me a hero or something. Also, add a dragon."

Specious conjecture. There are many more common pathogens that swine-borne parasites that the Bible is silent on. And cultures all around the ancient world ate pig with no problems (surprise, cooking helps!).

And what possible benefit could be gained from avoiding mixing meat and dairy? Should we assume some king was lactose intolerant and said "God said no milk in my stew!"?

It's far more likely that it was either a superstition that got encoded in law, or a way of affirming tribal identity ("we don't eat pigs, those dirty Egyptians do. Also we don't wear blended fabrics, they are an abomination."


Suspicous conjucture? LOL, mankind used the same process to discover the medicinal properties of numerous plants in pre-history. To deny our ancestors had the wherewithall to conduct such observational science goes against both recorded history and the archological evidence.
 
2012-09-27 03:00:51 PM
I probably know this person.
 
2012-09-27 03:13:48 PM

nmemkha: Suspicous conjucture? LOL, mankind used the same process to discover the medicinal properties of numerous plants in pre-history.


And discover the medicinal properties of rhino horn and tiger penis?

No, the food health origins of kosher are just speculation. Link
 
2012-09-27 03:30:23 PM

bestie1: See the difference because I do. Christians and Jews are of the book. I'm not and under Islam I have to convert or die. I don't even get the option of paying Jizya.



How do you think there are so many Christians in the world today, especially in Africa and Central/South America? It surely wasn't because in the past Christian's came there to spread peace and love...
 
2012-09-27 04:05:34 PM

HailRobonia: nmemkha: Suspicous conjucture? LOL, mankind used the same process to discover the medicinal properties of numerous plants in pre-history.

And discover the medicinal properties of rhino horn and tiger penis?

No, the food health origins of kosher are just speculation. Link


The dubiousness of Wikipedia aside, the article you linked partially supports my argument:

"There have been attempts to provide empirical support for the view that Jewish food laws have an overarching health benefit or purpose, one of the earliest being from Maimonides in his Guide for the Perplexed. In 1953, David Macht, an Orthodox Jew and proponent of the theory of biblical scientific foresight, conducted toxicity experiments on many kinds of animals and fish.[32] His experiment involved lupin seedlings being supplied with extracts from the meat of various animals; Macht reported that in 100% of cases, extracts from ritually unclean meat inhibited the seedling's growth more than that from ritually clean meats"

Its goes on to say:

"At the same time, these explanations are controversial. Scholar Lester L. Grabbe, writing in the Oxford Bible Commentary on Leviticus, states that "[a]n explanation now almost universally rejected is that the laws in this section [Leviticus 11-15] have hygiene as their basis. Although some of the laws of ritual purity roughly correspond to modern ideas of physical cleanliness, many of them have little to do with hygiene. For example, there is no evidence that the 'unclean' animals are intrinsically bad to eat or to be avoided in a Mediterranean climate, as is sometimes asserted."

To assert with this source that your opinions are based on scientific consenus is misleading at the very least.
 
2012-09-27 05:34:47 PM
Kinda fun to see the bible pages of "not so happiness" opened up in a hijacked-into "damn that koran anyway" thread - doesn't happen often enough frankly. Having read both (although I'll admit I skipped a few begats out of concern for my eyes and sanity) I'd have to say in my opinion the bible actually contains more incidences of "destroy the unbeliever" by far - assuming one is discounting statements in both books that amount to "and if you're at war/being enslaved/persecuted whatever then kill the farks." That I'm ok enough with, who would not want to fight back under those circumstances? Fair enough.

Most of what IS found in the koran about killing unbelievers involves war/persecution/etc. situations, even even then there are several very clear-cut verses about what happens to those who massacre civilians, children, etc. All conviniently ignored by various groups terrorists and governments that claim to follow islam - yep just like our fundy christians that only follow parts of the bible they like. Most of the serious hate and hellfire coming out of islamic areas is the result of fatwahs, in effect religious commentaries or decisions coming from those (at least supposedly) that are scholars of islam. Unfortunately many in those areas have recognized how handy it is to be able to in effect "create one's own word of god second-hand" and perverted the hell out of this process. They pretty much can make up just about anything and pass it down to a population that is often pretty ignorant of the actual contents of the koran - as many can't even read for themselves and trust imams and other scholars to pass down the word for them. For obvious reasons, this system is pretty ripe for perversion of the original intent, and so has gone the twisting of islam for centuries.

WILL say though, and it is fairly important from what I've been able to determine as far as how modern christianity is supposed to work, the old testament is in effect irrelevant to modern practice other than as a historical document. Paraphrasing, but one of the most definitive statements ever purported to be made by jesus of nazareth was in effect, "Regard the old ways, we will not walk these ways again. For I am the new convenant and that supercedes what has gone before."

In effect, he is recorded as stating flat out, "Ok look all that shiat you used to do, the deal you used to have? No more. I've taken all the sin and evil on myself, just acknowledge me and my father, and follow the ways that I've put forth - and you're cool. No more of that old testament jazz k?"

/Important note. Not a christian, not a muslim, nor a professional bible or koranic researcher - so your mileage/interpretation / bible version may vary ;p

//Why do I bother to read these and learn about it then? I'm interested in people. How the function, act, react, succeed, fail, love, hate, yadda bladda boo. It's quite impossible to truly look into that subject without taking a good hard look at religion, as since the dawn of humanity it's been one of the strongest driving forces we have. For both good and evil - it simply can't be ignored if you want a realistic picture of humanity.

///because sometimes, the more you know - y'know?
 
2012-09-27 05:49:55 PM

Hack Patooey: CSB: A couple of jobs ago I was the only white American guy working with a half dozen Indian guys, who were ALL devout religiously, strict vegetarians, etc etc. Maybe a month into the project I notice one of them with one of those little premade jello cups. I was torn, but finally said "Er, Ajay, you know what that is made of, right?" "No...." I told him to go do a search. About 5 minutes later he's on the phone with his wife. Apparently he had to do some 10 day purification thing or something.


You were doing the Lord's work, sir. Besides the animal byproducts, everyone knows that Jell-O is really just a front for the Church of Satan with Bill Cosby as the Head Priest...
 
2012-09-27 05:52:39 PM

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Kinda fun to see the bible pages of "not so happiness" opened up in a hijacked-into "damn that koran anyway" thread - doesn't happen often enough frankly. Having read both (although I'll admit I skipped a few begats out of concern for my eyes and sanity) I'd have to say in my opinion the bible actually contains more incidences of "destroy the unbeliever" by far - assuming one is discounting statements in both books that amount to "and if you're at war/being enslaved/persecuted whatever then kill the farks." That I'm ok enough with, who would not want to fight back under those circumstances? Fair enough.

Most of what IS found in the koran about killing unbelievers involves war/persecution/etc. situations, even even then there are several very clear-cut verses about what happens to those who massacre civilians, children, etc. All conviniently ignored by various groups terrorists and governments that claim to follow islam - yep just like our fundy christians that only follow parts of the bible they like. Most of the serious hate and hellfire coming out of islamic areas is the result of fatwahs, in effect religious commentaries or decisions coming from those (at least supposedly) that are scholars of islam. Unfortunately many in those areas have recognized how handy it is to be able to in effect "create one's own word of god second-hand" and perverted the hell out of this process. They pretty much can make up just about anything and pass it down to a population that is often pretty ignorant of the actual contents of the koran - as many can't even read for themselves and trust imams and other scholars to pass down the word for them. For obvious reasons, this system is pretty ripe for perversion of the original intent, and so has gone the twisting of islam for centuries.

WILL say though, and it is fairly important from what I've been able to determine as far as how modern christianity is supposed to work, the old testament is in effect irrelevant to modern practi ...


I agree Judiasm has its "slaughter the babes moments", but Christanity is about the New Testament, not the old. I doubt you will much "destroy the unbeliever" in the teachings of Christ. We can argue all days about semantics of Jesus fulfilling the law and what not, but at the end of the day He preached nothing but non-violence, tolerance, and love for your enemies. Its a shame so many of His so-called followers act like hypocritical asshats most of the time.
 
2012-09-27 06:04:22 PM
So, Wilcoxson's pulled their facebook page???

Can't seem to locate it.
 
2012-09-27 06:09:59 PM

HailRobonia: nmemkha: Easy tiger, I was merely pointing out the abstaining from pork is wise in world without modern sanitation and food handling practices. Why its was the one of dietary laws of Abhamanic religions is debatable. Before the advent of science, a lot of "good advice" (observational wisdom) about life got coded into religious dogmas. The ancient Egyptians did it all the time.

The food hygiene link to pork prohibitions in the Bible is tenuous at best.


If there is a practical basis for it, it is more likely that domesticated swine are an environmental disaster in an arid setting. Need lotsa water, eat plants down to the taproots, root up and expose soil to erosion - not helpful when you're trying to scratch a a living out of a near-desert.
 
2012-09-27 06:53:08 PM

bestie1: Give me a farking break if you add up every abortion doctor murder it's still less than 1 west bank school bus bombing. I'm not defending Christian radicals but all your doing is spinning. Why are you so dead set on defending the indefensible? Especially when the people your defending would like me if I converted and hate you. Muslim's love conservatives. I could pretend to be everything I am sure you think I am and own your shiat.

fark your Uganda. The Christian angle is a PR game. They site the 10 commandments and talk about maiming people. They aren't using your passages to justify themselves they just think they are making time for themselves by pretending to be Christian.


Here I go again. Look I have lived in a large American city where there are many Muslims and none of them are running around ululating, exploding or trying to convert at the end of a scimitar. There are lots of moderate Muslims. I'm more worried about Christian theocrats in this country, personally.

\atheist
 
2012-09-27 08:28:10 PM

nmemkha: but Christanity is about the New Testament, not the old



No, it's not. That's just a convenient excuse Christians say to get out of following anything in it.
 
2012-09-27 08:46:15 PM

intelligent comment below: nmemkha: but Christanity is about the New Testament, not the old


No, it's not. That's just a convenient excuse Christians say to get out of following anything in it.


emotibot.net 

Don't you have ridiciouls judgements to pass about people you don't know and outlandish and stupid assumptions to make that ascribe them beliefs they actually don't hold in a vain attempt justify your idiotic vitrol?
 
2012-09-27 08:49:11 PM

nmemkha: Don't you have ridiciouls judgements to pass about people you don't know and outlandish and stupid assumptions to make that ascribe them beliefs they actually don't hold in a vain attempt justify your idiotic vitrol?



You mad bro? Instead of ever debating what I say, you're just going to cry like a little girl when I point out the truth. Yeah it was outlandish and stupid to call a spade a spade. Anti-Semite. *ignored*
 
2012-09-27 08:59:05 PM

intelligent comment below: nmemkha: Don't you have ridiciouls judgements to pass about people you don't know and outlandish and stupid assumptions to make that ascribe them beliefs they actually don't hold in a vain attempt justify your idiotic vitrol?


You mad bro? Instead of ever debating what I say, you're just going to cry like a little girl when I point out the truth. Yeah it was outlandish and stupid to call a spade a spade. Anti-Semite. *ignored*


Thank God, now I don't have listen to morinc assusations. It must be hard living is such a hateful world. Pro-Tip: why don't you take a good look at yourself instead of attempting project your failures onto others?
 
2012-09-27 09:02:06 PM
"We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan." Bonus: customer is from Sheridan, Wyoming.

So they do not deliver to Wyoming either. OK, fine.

But he could have just answered the question instead of being a dick.
 
2012-09-27 09:02:45 PM

nmemkha: HailRobonia: nmemkha: 1. People ate pigs. Some got weird ailments
2. People who did not eat pigs, did not get sick
3. Wizard, "The aligments are caused by the of goat demons infesting pig's magic skull jello!"
4. Schmuck, "No demons for me, thanks!"
5. King, "You know we should write this pig thing down, but make me a hero or something. Also, add a dragon."

Specious conjecture. There are many more common pathogens that swine-borne parasites that the Bible is silent on. And cultures all around the ancient world ate pig with no problems (surprise, cooking helps!).

And what possible benefit could be gained from avoiding mixing meat and dairy? Should we assume some king was lactose intolerant and said "God said no milk in my stew!"?

It's far more likely that it was either a superstition that got encoded in law, or a way of affirming tribal identity ("we don't eat pigs, those dirty Egyptians do. Also we don't wear blended fabrics, they are an abomination."

Suspicous conjucture? LOL, mankind used the same process to discover the medicinal properties of numerous plants in pre-history. To deny our ancestors had the wherewithall to conduct such observational science goes against both recorded history and the archological evidence.


I remember learning from an Anglican priest in my primary school religious education that the physical effects of humans ingesting the parasites which exist/ed in pigs are that you feel like your body is burning up. He reckoned this is the specific reason why this was regarded as demonic possession or a similar event by the ancient Jews. He also said a lot of other stuff I've learned over the rest of my education was pretty wrong, so not sure if this little factoid is accurate, but it's probably worth further research among those who are interested in this topic.
 
2012-09-27 09:08:31 PM

nmemkha: I agree Judiasm has its "slaughter the babes moments", but Christanity is about the New Testament, not the old. I doubt you will much "destroy the unbeliever" in the teachings of Christ. We can argue all days about semantics of Jesus fulfilling the law and what not, but at the end of the day He preached nothing but non-violence, tolerance, and love for your enemies. Its a shame so many of His so-called followers act like hypocritical asshats most of the time.


Especially that Asshat Paul who is credited with writing 1/4 of the New Testament, cos he missed the memo about tolerance and love. Oh, and there are some things in Revelations that are a bit fire and brim stoney. Still if you get a message of peace and love, stick to that.

Religious questions aside, I think they should just tell us what's in the ice cream.
 
2012-09-27 09:17:05 PM

Aunt Crabby: nmemkha: I agree Judiasm has its "slaughter the babes moments", but Christanity is about the New Testament, not the old. I doubt you will much "destroy the unbeliever" in the teachings of Christ. We can argue all days about semantics of Jesus fulfilling the law and what not, but at the end of the day He preached nothing but non-violence, tolerance, and love for your enemies. Its a shame so many of His so-called followers act like hypocritical asshats most of the time.

Especially that Asshat Paul who is credited with writing 1/4 of the New Testament, cos he missed the memo about tolerance and love. Oh, and there are some things in Revelations that are a bit fire and brim stoney. Still if you get a message of peace and love, stick to that.

Religious questions aside, I think they should just tell us what's in the ice cream.


Personally, I stick to the actual words of Jesus. What Peter, Paul, and Mary decided to do with His words is their business. Its not my place to judge.

This whole situtation and resulting silly thread is so much to do about nothing. If we just treated each other with love, respect, and compassion we would all live in peace.
 
2012-09-27 09:31:38 PM

nmemkha:

This whole situation and resulting silly thread is so much to do about nothing. If we just treated each other with love, respect, and compassion we would all live in peace.


True, but now I want to know what's in the ice cream. It's not a religious issue for me--I just like knowing, even if it will gross me out.

/Theoretically in support of peace, love and understanding
//Actually in support of yummy ice cream with an accurate ingredients list
 
2012-09-27 10:02:45 PM
Are muslims just a bunch of cry-babies?

I'll tell you what, though, this whole "free speech" versus "offending dead-ass Mohammed" thing might turn ugly on a bigger scale.

These people have way too much time on their hands if they are getting worked up over a film.

Why aren't they getting excited about fighting hunger in africa? Why aren't they getting bent out of shape over the human rights violations being committed by their own Imams and governments?
Are all muslims retarded or do they just put the retards on the TV?
 
2012-09-27 10:04:19 PM
Oh, and one more thing, for killing Van Gogh in the middle of the farking street,

Mohammed screws dead cows.
 
2012-09-27 10:08:53 PM

Aunt Crabby: nmemkha:

This whole situation and resulting silly thread is so much to do about nothing. If we just treated each other with love, respect, and compassion we would all live in peace.

True, but now I want to know what's in the ice cream. It's not a religious issue for me--I just like knowing, even if it will gross me out.

/Theoretically in support of peace, love and understanding
//Actually in support of yummy ice cream with an accurate ingredients list


In any case, good luck on your quest to obtain actual relevant information in the sea of hyperbole and fallacy that is Fark.
 
2012-09-27 10:13:15 PM

thrgd456: These people have way too much time on their hands if they are getting worked up over a film


There is a film of them making ice cream? Does it show how they made the gelatin?

/The Jungle is nothing compared to The Jello
//Wasn't Van Gogh killed by Daleks?
 
2012-09-28 12:14:38 AM

Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.


Not if your hate either 1) is against a minority or 2) by hating your target, you gain customers and ensure better customer loyalty from those you already serve. Hate is a wonderful tool for capitalism, if used effectively. It helps to define a marketplace by manipulating in-group identities.
 
2012-09-28 02:10:02 AM

Gig103: brigid_fitch: Not only that, why the hell didn't he just answer the question? Would it be that hard to just call your supplier and find out? Nooo, he wasn't being racist (or bigoted, in this case) at all...

He even knew the answer that it's kosher gelatin but decided to be an ass.


Seriously. If he wants to value being a racist asshat over being a good businessman, he has every right to. People just won't buy his products.
 
2012-09-28 03:33:37 AM
"You can keep hating and spewing more hatred, or you can get over it and get out there and travel and learn about countries, cultures, religions and beliefs the world over before coming up with and propagating your pigeon-holed perceptions."

Hooked, reeled in, cleaned and gutted.

/feel better about yourself Sparky?
//I mean, it's pretty clear your only intent was to display what a self-righteous asshole you are.
///mission accomplished.
 
2012-09-28 03:58:43 AM

sorhed: jigger: I know a Muslim who will not eat pork, period. But he'll drink the shiat out of some alcohol. Makes no sense.

The Koran does not explicitly forbid alcohol. It merely warns against the potential dangers of it. Which is actually sage advice when you think about it.

Somehow this has been twisted over the centuries to be a strict prohibition.


Some more liberal muslims believes that it's not alcohol that is forbidden, but getting drunk, or anything that impairs your judgement.

Fun (and kinda ironic) trivia : "alcohol" comes from the Arabic for Kohl, the ancient black eyeliner. So, basically, Al Kohl is that which makes girls pretty.
 
2012-09-28 07:22:30 AM

nmemkha: Personally, I stick to the actual words of Jesus. What Peter, Paul, and Mary decided to do with His words is their business. Its not my place to judge.


upload.wikimedia.org

Yeah, but I can never forgive them for "Puff the Magic Dragon"...
 
2012-09-28 08:28:50 AM

RobSeace: nmemkha: Personally, I stick to the actual words of Jesus. What Peter, Paul, and Mary decided to do with His words is their business. Its not my place to judge.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 589x762]

Yeah, but I can never forgive them for "Puff the Magic Dragon"...


Finally someone gets one of my references.
 
2012-09-28 07:21:00 PM

nmemkha: RobSeace: nmemkha: Personally, I stick to the actual words of Jesus. What Peter, Paul, and Mary decided to do with His words is their business. Its not my place to judge.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 589x762]

Yeah, but I can never forgive them for "Puff the Magic Dragon"...

Finally someone gets one of my references.


Oh, plenty of us got the reference. We just didn't think that it was all that clever.
 
2012-09-28 07:42:49 PM

lumiere: padraig: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?

You cannot KNOWINGLY eat pork. and you are excused if you are forced, or this is a choice betweeen that or dying. Otherwise, you are fine.

That's why the fantasies about pork bullets, burying muslims in bacon, forcing them to eat pork sandwich to condemn them to hell, etc.. are all bullshiat.

The chopped beef at Rudy's BBQ isn't really beef, it's a combination of all their meats, including pork sausage. I have several Jewish and Muslim friends who refused to raise hell and better yet, refused to boycott Rudy's based on this. They simply continued to frequent Rudy's and stuck to the chicken and other "kosher*/halal*" items. The ignorant minority make more noise than the collective, silent majority.

*That's still debatable


Aren't all Rudy's a little different due to different ownership? Mmmmmmmmmmm moist brisket.
 
2012-09-28 09:15:08 PM
People like Mitt Romney would have us believe this CEO is one of our "betters", a job creator -one of whom the "little people" expect to trickle down the wealth.

It goes to show that people of high stature and affluence are not any more intelligent than those whose labor they profit from.
 
2012-09-28 10:27:02 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: nmemkha: RobSeace: nmemkha: Personally, I stick to the actual words of Jesus. What Peter, Paul, and Mary decided to do with His words is their business. Its not my place to judge.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 589x762]

Yeah, but I can never forgive them for "Puff the Magic Dragon"...

Finally someone gets one of my references.

Oh, plenty of us got the reference. We just didn't think that it was all that clever.


upload.wikimedia.org

I love how you think you speak for everyone.
 
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