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(Bozeman Daily Chronicle)   Muslim customer posts question to ice cream company's Facebook page, asking if their products contains pork gelatin. Dairy's CEO: "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan." Bonus: customer is from Sheridan, Wyoming   (bozemandailychronicle.com) divider line 248
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2012-09-27 02:22:01 AM  

fisker: The problem started with Facebook.

Everything after that is deserved.


I wholeheartedly concur with this idea.

/"Facebook: It's your own damn fault."
 
2012-09-27 02:22:08 AM  
Someone lust have put some serious stupid in the local water supply.
And this moran must have had at least a gallon that day.
 
2012-09-27 02:22:51 AM  
Before we get all excited, it's probably a good idea to actually read the article. I admit I was ready to start screaming, "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!", but then I noticed this little sentence:

The user had an icon next to the name that said "Pakistan" Schaeffer said. Responding quickly, he said he jotted his response down. "I thought he was making this comment from Pakistan," Schaeffer said.

While I admit Schaeffer's apology was pretty dickish, and he could have definitely replied in a better fashion (e.g. "Sorry, I'm not sure about that, I'll have to look into it. I'm flattered by your interest in our product, but FYI, we don't ship to Pakistan"), I do think he made an honest mistake. He just has to learn a bit more about PR and how the intertubes work, that's all.
 
2012-09-27 02:28:05 AM  

Barfmaker: I apologize if he took it wrong, that's not what I meant by it.

Man I hate when they say that. Nobody took it wrong, you said a dick thing, you were wrong. Grab a pair and accept it and apologize properly. It could have even been an excellent marketing opportunity.


On it's face, that's not always a bad thing. Sometimes people really do get bent out of shape for no reason and it can be legitimately their problem.
 
2012-09-27 02:29:38 AM  

C18H27NO3: If I called and he responded, "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Ireland" I would just hang up and go about my day.
Alerting the goddamn news about it wouldn't even come to mind.


You'd think differently if your god forbade you to drink booze and you were asking about any of their ice cream that might contain liquor.
But then... that's not a god that the Irish could worship, now is it?
 
2012-09-27 02:29:40 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?


The same thing that happens when an hetrosexual atheist learns the "chowder soup" he just ate was squeegeed goo from the floor of a gay sex club.
 
2012-09-27 02:31:59 AM  

bojon: Technically it can come from pigs. After all the processing is done it is called gelatin.


Is that supposed to be some sort of "pig (ge)latin" joke? I can kinda see the connection but it's not tickling by pun sensor.
 
2012-09-27 02:32:31 AM  

rewind2846: C18H27NO3: If I called and he responded, "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Ireland" I would just hang up and go about my day.
Alerting the goddamn news about it wouldn't even come to mind.

You'd think differently if your god forbade you to drink booze and you were asking about any of their ice cream that might contain liquor.
But then... that's not a god that the Irish could worship, now is it?


Believing the invisibly sky wizard forbade anyone from eating anything is pretty damned silly to begin with...
 
2012-09-27 02:34:41 AM  
So how long until the inevitable photo op of Sarah and Todd Palin walking out of the dairy carrying 30 pounds of pork ice cream?
 
2012-09-27 02:34:46 AM  
www.trbimg.com
 
2012-09-27 02:35:08 AM  
If the Muslims have made it into Sheridan, then the terrorists have won.

/sharia law will now demand that the lyrics to "Home on the Range" be changed to include goats.
 
2012-09-27 02:35:48 AM  

swfan:
Believing the invisibly sky wizard forbade anyone from eating anything is pretty damned silly to begin with...


Maybe so... but people believe what they believe. As long as they don't try to force me to believe it, we get along.
If they're Muslim or Jewish, I cook them a burger. If they're Hindu, I put some hot dogs on the grill. Simple.
 
2012-09-27 02:38:47 AM  

twomutts: Before we get all excited, it's probably a good idea to actually read the article. I admit I was ready to start screaming, "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!", but then I noticed this little sentence:

The user had an icon next to the name that said "Pakistan" Schaeffer said. Responding quickly, he said he jotted his response down. "I thought he was making this comment from Pakistan," Schaeffer said.

While I admit Schaeffer's apology was pretty dickish, and he could have definitely replied in a better fashion (e.g. "Sorry, I'm not sure about that, I'll have to look into it. I'm flattered by your interest in our product, but FYI, we don't ship to Pakistan"), I do think he made an honest mistake. He just has to learn a bit more about PR and how the intertubes work, that's all.


Yes and that icon didn't have anything to do with the user's location but probably was his profile picture which he then changed immediately when he got butt hurt. I got an idea why did Abu Jihadi von Boom Boom figure that shiat out, assume an honest mistake and clarify he was in Wyoming. Would that have been hard? Oh noes it's so much easier to go "lalalalalalalala" and call a Fatwa on some old clueless dude in Montana.
 
2012-09-27 02:40:07 AM  
 
2012-09-27 02:42:24 AM  

rewind2846: swfan:
Believing the invisibly sky wizard forbade anyone from eating anything is pretty damned silly to begin with...

Maybe so... but people believe what they believe. As long as they don't try to force me to believe it, we get along.
If they're Muslim or Jewish, I cook them a burger. If they're Hindu, I put some hot dogs on the grill. Simple.


What about Scientologist? Do you ask them if they would like some cock?
 
2012-09-27 02:43:17 AM  
"Wilcoxon's next 'Flavor of the Month': Caramel Jockies!"

And look for our other exciting flavors:

'Cherry-a Law'
'Allah hu Crunchbar'
'Hamas-mellow Massacre'
'Death to Israel by Chocolate'
and
'Goat'
 
2012-09-27 02:44:05 AM  

GungFu: rewind2846: swfan:
Believing the invisibly sky wizard forbade anyone from eating anything is pretty damned silly to begin with...

Maybe so... but people believe what they believe. As long as they don't try to force me to believe it, we get along.
If they're Muslim or Jewish, I cook them a burger. If they're Hindu, I put some hot dogs on the grill. Simple.

What about Scientologist? Do you ask them if they would like some cock?


I just wait until they get off the furniture.
 
2012-09-27 02:44:53 AM  
Since all "evidence" is now gone the only way to clear it up is to ask this question: "Abu Jihadi von Boom Boom are you originally from Pakistan?". I'll be 20 bucks he his and I'll bet he knows exactly what happened.

What seems more likely:
company president decides to insult customer for the fark of it
or
muslim decides to make a name for himself and act outraged for no reason?

Queue the Jeopardy music I need time to think.
 
2012-09-27 02:44:55 AM  
Look, the employee said something ridiculous and possibly racist and is obviously a dick (proof: it says Cox in an icon near his name), but it's a farking comment on a farking facebook page for an ice cream company in Montana that no one has heard of, ever. Meanwhile, the U.S. has military presence in like 5 Muslim countries, Fox news exists, Netanyahu and Ahemdinejad and 1/2 of Congress seem to want World War III to happen sooner rather than later, and the President is personally choosing targets for unmanned drones killing people in Pakistan.

But this is what the Internet is frothing at the mouth about? If you want to put someone out of business using the power of Reddit, how about Terry Jones? Or anyone who uses the phrase 'not a friend of Israel.'

We get it, many ordinary Americans are Islamophobic. If you want to do something in response, use the teachable moment you have to have some ice cream and conversation with someone else, don't vote for or support Islamophobic douchebags with some power and move on with your life to do something actually helpful.

/end rant
 
2012-09-27 02:45:59 AM  
Isn't the Muslim Facebook questioner [by posting on Facebook] knowingly supporting a business that allows pictures of the Prophet to be reproduced?
 
2012-09-27 02:46:15 AM  

Coelacanth: When I was working at the Bellagio, we had some Black Muslims employees who drove management bananas trying to get them to buy only Halal foods by threatening a lawsuit. Even the immigrant Muslims thought they were going over the top. There were a few nights when the only thing we had to eat was cold cereal.


Semi-related story. The University of Adelaide in my home-town sacked a contractor who was providing food to the cafeteria the day they delivered a batch of supposedly Halal egg-and-bacon rolls.
 
2012-09-27 02:46:58 AM  

WMittensRomney: Look, the employee said something ridiculous and possibly racist and is obviously a dick (proof: it says Cox in an icon near his name), but it's a farking comment on a farking facebook page for an ice cream company in Montana that no one has heard of, ever. Meanwhile, the U.S. has military presence in like 5 Muslim countries, Fox news exists, Netanyahu and Ahemdinejad and 1/2 of Congress seem to want World War III to happen sooner rather than later, and the President is personally choosing targets for unmanned drones killing people in Pakistan.

But this is what the Internet is frothing at the mouth about? If you want to put someone out of business using the power of Reddit, how about Terry Jones? Or anyone who uses the phrase 'not a friend of Israel.'

We get it, many ordinary Americans are Islamophobic. If you want to do something in response, use the teachable moment you have to have some ice cream and conversation with someone else, don't vote for or support Islamophobic douchebags with some power and move on with your life to do something actually helpful.

/end rant


How's your iPhone5 working?
 
2012-09-27 02:49:06 AM  

gibbon1: bojon: Technically it can come from pigs. After all the processing is done it is called gelatin.

The point really being Muslim, Christian, Jew, or Hindu, you don't want to know where gelatin comes from.


About that....

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-27 02:51:36 AM  
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2012-09-27 02:51:48 AM  

G-Rot: "Wilcoxon's next 'Flavor of the Month': Caramel Jockies!"

And look for our other exciting flavors:

'Cherry-a Law'
'Allah hu Crunchbar'
'Hamas-mellow Massacre'
'Death to Israel by Chocolate'
and
'Goat'


Well played.
 
2012-09-27 02:52:18 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Yes, Mr. Farktarded CEO......if you're a Muslim, you must be in the Middle East, since there are no Muslims anywhere else in the world. You've quite clearly got a firm grasp on cultural geography.

*face palm*


You do realize that Pakistan is not in the Middle East itself, right?
 
2012-09-27 02:55:45 AM  
Wilcoxson's Graham Slam is the best ice cream ever.

/Their Pumpkin Pie ice cream is pretty good too
 
2012-09-27 02:56:29 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?


Nope. Couple Somali coworkers ate a pie that our former supe made using lard. Still alive, no Muhammad riding down from the heavens smiting them with a scimitar or anything like that. Now what happens AFTER they die and meet the Muslim equivilent of St. Peter at the pearly gates and get told on their strawberry rhubard lard binge is anybody's guess.
 
2012-09-27 02:58:12 AM  
i.imgur.com
Doesn't the header look funny. When I look at groups and likes on my facebook I don't see the location of the people who posted. What's that little dot between the location and the globe too?
 
2012-09-27 02:58:53 AM  

WMittensRomney: an ice cream company in Montana that no one has heard of, ever.


No one except people who have visited and purchased food at Yellowstone NP in at least the last few decades -- so, low tens of millions, tops.
 
2012-09-27 03:06:12 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Rule 1 of customer service: don't be a dick no matter how tempting it is

/Rule 2 is "Don't be a smartass to newly promoted managers even if they used to be your friends"
//but that's another story


Rule 3, be a dick to customers who deserve it as long as youre absolutely certain you can get away with it. Its rare, but its soooooooo worth it. Cathartic as hell too.
 
2012-09-27 03:08:36 AM  

dahmers love zombie: scottydoesntknow: Wilcoxon's next 'Flavor of the Month': Caramel Jockies!

Rocky Road Casbah?


Burka Bananas Foster?
 
2012-09-27 03:10:47 AM  
They will sell more to Real Americans(tm) [copyright Koch Industries] and less to everyone else.
 
2012-09-27 03:13:44 AM  

impaler: padraig: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?

You cannot KNOWINGLY eat pork. and you are excused if you are forced, or this is a choice betweeen that or dying. Otherwise, you are fine.

That's why the fantasies about pork bullets, burying muslims in bacon, forcing them to eat pork sandwich to condemn them to hell, etc.. are all bullshiat.

That's why the smart response would be: "Hey, you can't knowingly eat pork right? But if you know... Let's just say we're both better off if I don't tell you ;)"


This reminds me of a possibly apocryphal anecdote about Kissinger in China.

Mr Kissinger, while visiting China, was feted with a traditional Chinese banquet as the crowning event of his visit. The centerpiece of the dinner is carried to the table, and it is a whole roast piglet. Unmistakably a whole pig. One of Kissinger's local guides rush up to his Chinese host and whispers urgently in his ear, whereupon, the Chinese host picked up a choice piece of the pig, and said, "Mr Kissinger, please enjoy this national dish of China - Peking Duck."
 
2012-09-27 03:15:18 AM  

G-Rot: If the Muslims have made it into Sheridan, then the terrorists have won.


Those would be Muslims trying to get as far away from the crazy Muslims as possible.
 
2012-09-27 03:16:17 AM  

G-Rot: And look for our other exciting flavors:

'Cherry-a Law'

+1
 
2012-09-27 03:16:24 AM  

TomD9938: The correct response would have been, "There is no god, so who farking cares?".



So you know this for a fact?
 
2012-09-27 03:19:18 AM  
All of Wilcoxson's ice cream is excellent regardless of all the internet squawking. Hope it brings them more business from the cowboys and miners.
 
2012-09-27 03:19:53 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?


Quran 6:54 "When those come to you who believe in Our Signs, say: "Peace be on you! Your Lord had inscribed for Himself (the rule of) Mercy. Verily if any of you did evil in ignorance, and thereafter repented and amended (his conduct), Lo! He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
 
2012-09-27 03:23:10 AM  
GDit !! why have we not abolished religions yet ?!?!?! shut the fark up; and keep your mental illness to yourself. in what other arena of life is it acceptable to be intentionally ignorant and cultish ? NONE !! get ovedr it already, that shiat was fake thousands of years ago and it is fake now. what the hell ? respect people's faith ? NO fark you, all people of any religion should be publicly mocked and socially shunned until we have eradicated this disease from our species.
 
2012-09-27 03:24:04 AM  

Aarontology: Somehow I doubt that if the person had asked if it was kosher he wouldn't have said "We don't ship to Israel"


Indeed.
 
2012-09-27 03:26:09 AM  

Barfmaker: I apologize if he took it wrong, that's not what I meant by it.

Man I hate when they say that. Nobody took it wrong, you said a dick thing, you were wrong. Grab a pair and accept it and apologize properly. It could have even been an excellent marketing opportunity.


you have it backwards. grab a pair and stick to your guns. we are allowed to insult people if we want to. fark apologizing. Tiger Woods should also have just said, hell yes i farked as many as i could you cant even guess the real number !!
 
2012-09-27 03:27:08 AM  
Being from Wyoming, I'm getting a kick out of these replies


/Not near Sheridan

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2012-09-27 03:27:10 AM  
Quran 33.29. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
 
2012-09-27 03:28:56 AM  
Quran 33.5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
 
2012-09-27 03:30:53 AM  
Weeners FTA: "Typical lib's...

If the guys Facebook page indicated he may be from PAKISTAN, then the response was appropriate.

You lib's are bent on welcoming a very hateful and dangerous group of religious people into this country. In fifty years, the Mexicans (yeah, Mexicans...) will be competing with Muslims for control of the United States of America. Black and caucasian Americans will be the minority. "


goddessoffiction.com
 
2012-09-27 03:32:22 AM  

MadSkillz: I'm allergic to pork. The question is valid.


no you are not, there is no such thing. you may be allergic to additives or fuels used in cooking.
 
2012-09-27 03:33:02 AM  
They hate the jews.
 
2012-09-27 03:33:47 AM  

nmemkha: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?

The same thing that happens when an hetrosexual atheist learns the "chowder soup" he just ate was squeegeed goo from the floor of a gay sex club.


Orders seconds?
 
2012-09-27 03:35:48 AM  

bestie1: Quran 33.29. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
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