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(Bozeman Daily Chronicle)   Muslim customer posts question to ice cream company's Facebook page, asking if their products contains pork gelatin. Dairy's CEO: "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan." Bonus: customer is from Sheridan, Wyoming   (bozemandailychronicle.com) divider line 248
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2012-09-26 03:42:12 PM  
being a stoopid mooslim is not the companies problem. pay for your own lab tests and find out, bronze age worshiper.
 
2012-09-26 03:54:18 PM  
The Sheridan, Wyoming in Montana, you mean?
 
2012-09-26 03:55:24 PM  
"I thought he was making this comment from Pakistan," Schaeffer said. "It wasn't a racist comment... It was just an honest mistake."

Facebook Posting:

-September 21 at 9:28am near Sheridan, WY

Dumbass
 
2012-09-26 04:03:59 PM  
Somehow I doubt that if the person had asked if it was kosher he wouldn't have said "We don't ship to Israel"
 
2012-09-26 04:22:58 PM  

scottydoesntknow: "I thought he was making this comment from Pakistan," Schaeffer said. "It wasn't a racist comment... It was just an honest mistake."

Facebook Posting:

-September 21 at 9:28am near Sheridan, WY

Dumbass


Not only that, why the hell didn't he just answer the question? Would it be that hard to just call your supplier and find out? Nooo, he wasn't being racist (or bigoted, in this case) at all...
 
2012-09-26 04:27:25 PM  
Rule 1 of customer service: don't be a dick no matter how tempting it is

/Rule 2 is "Don't be a smartass to newly promoted managers even if they used to be your friends"
//but that's another story
 
2012-09-26 04:36:41 PM  
It's Montana. He's lucky his reply wasn't "Caveat Emptor, Ackmed".
 
2012-09-26 04:50:51 PM  
Technically it can come from pigs. After all the processing is done it is called gelatin.
 
2012-09-26 04:51:38 PM  
Wow. They have muslims in Wyoming? (I've been to Sheridan. Nice small town).
 
2012-09-26 04:58:42 PM  
Wilcoxon's next 'Flavor of the Month': Caramel Jockies!
 
2012-09-26 05:02:41 PM  
Apparently, it's hard just to give the farking answer and call it a day.
 
2012-09-26 09:15:30 PM  
I apologize if he took it wrong, that's not what I meant by it.

Man I hate when they say that. Nobody took it wrong, you said a dick thing, you were wrong. Grab a pair and accept it and apologize properly. It could have even been an excellent marketing opportunity.
 
2012-09-26 09:28:12 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Wilcoxon's next 'Flavor of the Month': Caramel Jockies!


Rocky Road Casbah?
 
2012-09-26 09:30:00 PM  
If there is "pork gelatin" in your ice cream I don't need to be Muslim to not want to eat your product.  GAAAAAAAH!
 
*shivers*
 
2012-09-26 09:45:26 PM  
Yes, Mr. Farktarded CEO......if you're a Muslim, you must be in the Middle East, since there are no Muslims anywhere else in the world. You've quite clearly got a firm grasp on cultural geography.

*face palm*
 
2012-09-26 09:50:35 PM  
What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?
 
2012-09-26 10:01:51 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Apparently, it's hard just to give the farking answer and call it a day.


Seriously. Why the hell couldn't he just answer the question? Who cares where the question came from? It was a legitimate question, and he should have just answered it without being a smartass about it.
 
2012-09-26 10:14:02 PM  
Wow, that's pretty pathetic. Not as bad as when McD's lied about adding beef juice to fries for years, but still bad.
 
2012-09-26 10:14:19 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?


Nothing, apparently.

And in my search for knowledge I turned up this gem:

well i agree that you shouldnt do that. but at the same time, i work in an italian restaurant in which we flavor quite a few things with pancetta and prosciutto. (bacon and ham). when i explain tothe person that cannot eat what we have that includes these ingredients, they get angry at me! dont get angry at me because your god said you cant eat it. i didnt make the recipe, i just take your order and recommend liquor! jeez.

Thank you, Yahoo Answers.
 
2012-09-26 10:18:52 PM  

fusillade762: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?

Nothing, apparently.

And in my search for knowledge I turned up this gem:

well i agree that you shouldnt do that. but at the same time, i work in an italian restaurant in which we flavor quite a few things with pancetta and prosciutto. (bacon and ham). when i explain tothe person that cannot eat what we have that includes these ingredients, they get angry at me! dont get angry at me because your god said you cant eat it. i didnt make the recipe, i just take your order and recommend liquor! jeez.

Thank you, Yahoo Answers.


I find something really hilarious about "i was already almost through with the [Dunkin Donuts chicken sandwich] when i noticed i was eating something like meat."
 
2012-09-26 10:55:53 PM  
Looks like the Facebook page might be history already.

I'm a vegetarian and would have a question about the use of gelatin, but I don't suppose they ship to Vegastan anyway.
 
2012-09-26 11:21:12 PM  

scottydoesntknow: "I thought he was making this comment from Pakistan," Schaeffer said. "It wasn't a racist comment... It was just an honest mistake."

Facebook Posting:

-September 21 at 9:28am near Sheridan, WY

Dumbass


It wasn't a racist comment because Muslim isn't a race.
 
2012-09-27 12:18:07 AM  
Snark is fine when you know your audience. Customer service is a 24/7 practice. If you snark your customers, they will tell their friends.
 
2012-09-27 12:23:41 AM  
couldn't get a ride at msp cuz i had booze.
 
2012-09-27 12:39:41 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Yes, Mr. Farktarded CEO......if you're a Muslim, you must be in the Middle East, since there are no Muslims anywhere else in the world. You've quite clearly got a firm grasp on cultural geography.

*face palm*


Wait until he and his wife (or Rent-Boy) vacation in Paris.
 
2012-09-27 01:10:00 AM  
I bet bet the CEO of Blue Bunny doesn't spend his time on Facebook answering questions about whether he makes pig-flavored ice cream.
 
2012-09-27 01:13:30 AM  
I'm allergic to pork. The question is valid.
 
2012-09-27 01:36:33 AM  

MadSkillz: I'm allergic to pork. The question is valid.


Do you live in Montanna?

'Cuz they don't deliver to Pakistan. Or so I'm told, pork-allergy-boy.
 
2012-09-27 01:48:17 AM  

MadSkillz: I'm allergic to pork. The question is valid.


I'm allergic to seafood. And mushrooms. So I have to watch it closely. Today I had an Tai citrus salad. The dressing tasted funny. It was because it was anchovy based dressing.

I've been under the weather ever since...
 
2012-09-27 01:53:25 AM  
Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.
 
2012-09-27 01:57:37 AM  
In TFA's sidebar there's a link to an earlier story: a history and profile of the ice cream company.

This is a lot of butthurt over a 100 year-old firm that employs 22 people.

FWIW, the second story says the firm delivers to Cody and Sheridan, Wyoming.
 
2012-09-27 02:02:16 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?


You cannot KNOWINGLY eat pork. and you are excused if you are forced, or this is a choice betweeen that or dying. Otherwise, you are fine.

That's why the fantasies about pork bullets, burying muslims in bacon, forcing them to eat pork sandwich to condemn them to hell, etc.. are all bullshiat.
 
2012-09-27 02:06:53 AM  

scottydoesntknow: "I thought he was making this comment from Pakistan," Schaeffer said. "It wasn't a racist comment... It was just an honest mistake."

Facebook Posting:

-September 21 at 9:28am near Sheridan, WY

Dumbass


He probably misread it as Sheridanwy, Pakistan.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
2012-09-27 02:07:09 AM  
the proper response would have been "we don't sell our delicious ice cream treats to anyone who wants to kill everyone who isn't just like them, so STFU and fark off".
 
2012-09-27 02:08:52 AM  
Ice Cream don't have bacon as a ingredient

I BEEN CHEATED FOR YEARS NOW !!!
 
2012-09-27 02:09:34 AM  

IsNoGood: Ice Cream don't have bacon as a ingredient

I BEEN CHEATED FOR YEARS NOW !!!


Burger King disagrees.
 
2012-09-27 02:10:20 AM  
When I was working at the Bellagio, we had some Black Muslims employees who drove management bananas trying to get them to buy only Halal foods by threatening a lawsuit. Even the immigrant Muslims thought they were going over the top. There were a few nights when the only thing we had to eat was cold cereal.
 
2012-09-27 02:10:49 AM  

some_beer_drinker: being a stoopid mooslim is not the companies problem. pay for your own lab tests and find out, bronze age worshiper.


You palefaces are funny.
 
2012-09-27 02:11:15 AM  
Headline: Muslim customer posts question to ice cream company's Facebook page, asking if their products contains pork gelatin.
Dairy's CEO: "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan."
Bonus: customer is from Sheridan, Wyoming



Dairy's CEO: Heeheeheee!
 
2012-09-27 02:13:25 AM  
I don't know about you but I intend to boycott this company's products.

/If I'm ever in Wyotana or whatever
//Which I hope to never be
 
2012-09-27 02:13:40 AM  

Barfmaker: I apologize if he took it wrong, that's not what I meant by it.

Man I hate when they say that. Nobody took it wrong, you said a dick thing, you were wrong. Grab a pair and accept it and apologize properly. It could have even been an excellent marketing opportunity.


I second this statement.
 
2012-09-27 02:14:03 AM  

padraig: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?

You cannot KNOWINGLY eat pork. and you are excused if you are forced, or this is a choice betweeen that or dying. Otherwise, you are fine.

That's why the fantasies about pork bullets, burying muslims in bacon, forcing them to eat pork sandwich to condemn them to hell, etc.. are all bullshiat.


That's why the smart response would be: "Hey, you can't knowingly eat pork right? But if you know... Let's just say we're both better off if I don't tell you ;)"
 
2012-09-27 02:14:23 AM  
The problem started with Facebook.

Everything after that is deserved.
 
2012-09-27 02:14:56 AM  

Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix.


Unless there is a market for bigotry, and there often is.
 
2012-09-27 02:15:27 AM  
What a pathetic and petty god to worship.
 
2012-09-27 02:16:17 AM  

padraig: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?

You cannot KNOWINGLY eat pork. and you are excused if you are forced, or this is a choice betweeen that or dying. Otherwise, you are fine.

That's why the fantasies about pork bullets, burying muslims in bacon, forcing them to eat pork sandwich to condemn them to hell, etc.. are all bullshiat.


The chopped beef at Rudy's BBQ isn't really beef, it's a combination of all their meats, including pork sausage. I have several Jewish and Muslim friends who refused to raise hell and better yet, refused to boycott Rudy's based on this. They simply continued to frequent Rudy's and stuck to the chicken and other "kosher*/halal*" items. The ignorant minority make more noise than the collective, silent majority.

*That's still debatable
 
2012-09-27 02:17:24 AM  

bojon: Technically it can come from pigs. After all the processing is done it is called gelatin.


The point really being Muslim, Christian, Jew, or Hindu, you don't want to know where gelatin comes from.
 
2012-09-27 02:17:26 AM  
If I called and he responded, "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Ireland" I would just hang up and go about my day.
Alerting the goddamn news about it wouldn't even come to mind.
 
2012-09-27 02:17:33 AM  

Triumph: I bet bet the CEO of Blue Bunny doesn't spend his time on Facebook answering questions about whether he makes pig-flavored ice cream.


farm4.static.flickr.com

Blue Bunny already has a product that's popular with Muslims.
 
2012-09-27 02:21:34 AM  
The correct response would have been, "There is no god, so who farking cares?".
 
2012-09-27 02:22:01 AM  

fisker: The problem started with Facebook.

Everything after that is deserved.


I wholeheartedly concur with this idea.

/"Facebook: It's your own damn fault."
 
2012-09-27 02:22:08 AM  
Someone lust have put some serious stupid in the local water supply.
And this moran must have had at least a gallon that day.
 
2012-09-27 02:22:51 AM  
Before we get all excited, it's probably a good idea to actually read the article. I admit I was ready to start screaming, "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!", but then I noticed this little sentence:

The user had an icon next to the name that said "Pakistan" Schaeffer said. Responding quickly, he said he jotted his response down. "I thought he was making this comment from Pakistan," Schaeffer said.

While I admit Schaeffer's apology was pretty dickish, and he could have definitely replied in a better fashion (e.g. "Sorry, I'm not sure about that, I'll have to look into it. I'm flattered by your interest in our product, but FYI, we don't ship to Pakistan"), I do think he made an honest mistake. He just has to learn a bit more about PR and how the intertubes work, that's all.
 
2012-09-27 02:28:05 AM  

Barfmaker: I apologize if he took it wrong, that's not what I meant by it.

Man I hate when they say that. Nobody took it wrong, you said a dick thing, you were wrong. Grab a pair and accept it and apologize properly. It could have even been an excellent marketing opportunity.


On it's face, that's not always a bad thing. Sometimes people really do get bent out of shape for no reason and it can be legitimately their problem.
 
2012-09-27 02:29:38 AM  

C18H27NO3: If I called and he responded, "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Ireland" I would just hang up and go about my day.
Alerting the goddamn news about it wouldn't even come to mind.


You'd think differently if your god forbade you to drink booze and you were asking about any of their ice cream that might contain liquor.
But then... that's not a god that the Irish could worship, now is it?
 
2012-09-27 02:29:40 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?


The same thing that happens when an hetrosexual atheist learns the "chowder soup" he just ate was squeegeed goo from the floor of a gay sex club.
 
2012-09-27 02:31:59 AM  

bojon: Technically it can come from pigs. After all the processing is done it is called gelatin.


Is that supposed to be some sort of "pig (ge)latin" joke? I can kinda see the connection but it's not tickling by pun sensor.
 
2012-09-27 02:32:31 AM  

rewind2846: C18H27NO3: If I called and he responded, "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Ireland" I would just hang up and go about my day.
Alerting the goddamn news about it wouldn't even come to mind.

You'd think differently if your god forbade you to drink booze and you were asking about any of their ice cream that might contain liquor.
But then... that's not a god that the Irish could worship, now is it?


Believing the invisibly sky wizard forbade anyone from eating anything is pretty damned silly to begin with...
 
2012-09-27 02:34:41 AM  
So how long until the inevitable photo op of Sarah and Todd Palin walking out of the dairy carrying 30 pounds of pork ice cream?
 
2012-09-27 02:34:46 AM  
www.trbimg.com
 
2012-09-27 02:35:08 AM  
If the Muslims have made it into Sheridan, then the terrorists have won.

/sharia law will now demand that the lyrics to "Home on the Range" be changed to include goats.
 
2012-09-27 02:35:48 AM  

swfan:
Believing the invisibly sky wizard forbade anyone from eating anything is pretty damned silly to begin with...


Maybe so... but people believe what they believe. As long as they don't try to force me to believe it, we get along.
If they're Muslim or Jewish, I cook them a burger. If they're Hindu, I put some hot dogs on the grill. Simple.
 
2012-09-27 02:38:47 AM  

twomutts: Before we get all excited, it's probably a good idea to actually read the article. I admit I was ready to start screaming, "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!", but then I noticed this little sentence:

The user had an icon next to the name that said "Pakistan" Schaeffer said. Responding quickly, he said he jotted his response down. "I thought he was making this comment from Pakistan," Schaeffer said.

While I admit Schaeffer's apology was pretty dickish, and he could have definitely replied in a better fashion (e.g. "Sorry, I'm not sure about that, I'll have to look into it. I'm flattered by your interest in our product, but FYI, we don't ship to Pakistan"), I do think he made an honest mistake. He just has to learn a bit more about PR and how the intertubes work, that's all.


Yes and that icon didn't have anything to do with the user's location but probably was his profile picture which he then changed immediately when he got butt hurt. I got an idea why did Abu Jihadi von Boom Boom figure that shiat out, assume an honest mistake and clarify he was in Wyoming. Would that have been hard? Oh noes it's so much easier to go "lalalalalalalala" and call a Fatwa on some old clueless dude in Montana.
 
2012-09-27 02:40:07 AM  
 
2012-09-27 02:42:24 AM  

rewind2846: swfan:
Believing the invisibly sky wizard forbade anyone from eating anything is pretty damned silly to begin with...

Maybe so... but people believe what they believe. As long as they don't try to force me to believe it, we get along.
If they're Muslim or Jewish, I cook them a burger. If they're Hindu, I put some hot dogs on the grill. Simple.


What about Scientologist? Do you ask them if they would like some cock?
 
2012-09-27 02:43:17 AM  
"Wilcoxon's next 'Flavor of the Month': Caramel Jockies!"

And look for our other exciting flavors:

'Cherry-a Law'
'Allah hu Crunchbar'
'Hamas-mellow Massacre'
'Death to Israel by Chocolate'
and
'Goat'
 
2012-09-27 02:44:05 AM  

GungFu: rewind2846: swfan:
Believing the invisibly sky wizard forbade anyone from eating anything is pretty damned silly to begin with...

Maybe so... but people believe what they believe. As long as they don't try to force me to believe it, we get along.
If they're Muslim or Jewish, I cook them a burger. If they're Hindu, I put some hot dogs on the grill. Simple.

What about Scientologist? Do you ask them if they would like some cock?


I just wait until they get off the furniture.
 
2012-09-27 02:44:53 AM  
Since all "evidence" is now gone the only way to clear it up is to ask this question: "Abu Jihadi von Boom Boom are you originally from Pakistan?". I'll be 20 bucks he his and I'll bet he knows exactly what happened.

What seems more likely:
company president decides to insult customer for the fark of it
or
muslim decides to make a name for himself and act outraged for no reason?

Queue the Jeopardy music I need time to think.
 
2012-09-27 02:44:55 AM  
Look, the employee said something ridiculous and possibly racist and is obviously a dick (proof: it says Cox in an icon near his name), but it's a farking comment on a farking facebook page for an ice cream company in Montana that no one has heard of, ever. Meanwhile, the U.S. has military presence in like 5 Muslim countries, Fox news exists, Netanyahu and Ahemdinejad and 1/2 of Congress seem to want World War III to happen sooner rather than later, and the President is personally choosing targets for unmanned drones killing people in Pakistan.

But this is what the Internet is frothing at the mouth about? If you want to put someone out of business using the power of Reddit, how about Terry Jones? Or anyone who uses the phrase 'not a friend of Israel.'

We get it, many ordinary Americans are Islamophobic. If you want to do something in response, use the teachable moment you have to have some ice cream and conversation with someone else, don't vote for or support Islamophobic douchebags with some power and move on with your life to do something actually helpful.

/end rant
 
2012-09-27 02:45:59 AM  
Isn't the Muslim Facebook questioner [by posting on Facebook] knowingly supporting a business that allows pictures of the Prophet to be reproduced?
 
2012-09-27 02:46:15 AM  

Coelacanth: When I was working at the Bellagio, we had some Black Muslims employees who drove management bananas trying to get them to buy only Halal foods by threatening a lawsuit. Even the immigrant Muslims thought they were going over the top. There were a few nights when the only thing we had to eat was cold cereal.


Semi-related story. The University of Adelaide in my home-town sacked a contractor who was providing food to the cafeteria the day they delivered a batch of supposedly Halal egg-and-bacon rolls.
 
2012-09-27 02:46:58 AM  

WMittensRomney: Look, the employee said something ridiculous and possibly racist and is obviously a dick (proof: it says Cox in an icon near his name), but it's a farking comment on a farking facebook page for an ice cream company in Montana that no one has heard of, ever. Meanwhile, the U.S. has military presence in like 5 Muslim countries, Fox news exists, Netanyahu and Ahemdinejad and 1/2 of Congress seem to want World War III to happen sooner rather than later, and the President is personally choosing targets for unmanned drones killing people in Pakistan.

But this is what the Internet is frothing at the mouth about? If you want to put someone out of business using the power of Reddit, how about Terry Jones? Or anyone who uses the phrase 'not a friend of Israel.'

We get it, many ordinary Americans are Islamophobic. If you want to do something in response, use the teachable moment you have to have some ice cream and conversation with someone else, don't vote for or support Islamophobic douchebags with some power and move on with your life to do something actually helpful.

/end rant


How's your iPhone5 working?
 
2012-09-27 02:49:06 AM  

gibbon1: bojon: Technically it can come from pigs. After all the processing is done it is called gelatin.

The point really being Muslim, Christian, Jew, or Hindu, you don't want to know where gelatin comes from.


About that....

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-27 02:51:36 AM  
i1251.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-27 02:51:48 AM  

G-Rot: "Wilcoxon's next 'Flavor of the Month': Caramel Jockies!"

And look for our other exciting flavors:

'Cherry-a Law'
'Allah hu Crunchbar'
'Hamas-mellow Massacre'
'Death to Israel by Chocolate'
and
'Goat'


Well played.
 
2012-09-27 02:52:18 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Yes, Mr. Farktarded CEO......if you're a Muslim, you must be in the Middle East, since there are no Muslims anywhere else in the world. You've quite clearly got a firm grasp on cultural geography.

*face palm*


You do realize that Pakistan is not in the Middle East itself, right?
 
2012-09-27 02:55:45 AM  
Wilcoxson's Graham Slam is the best ice cream ever.

/Their Pumpkin Pie ice cream is pretty good too
 
2012-09-27 02:56:29 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?


Nope. Couple Somali coworkers ate a pie that our former supe made using lard. Still alive, no Muhammad riding down from the heavens smiting them with a scimitar or anything like that. Now what happens AFTER they die and meet the Muslim equivilent of St. Peter at the pearly gates and get told on their strawberry rhubard lard binge is anybody's guess.
 
2012-09-27 02:58:12 AM  
i.imgur.com
Doesn't the header look funny. When I look at groups and likes on my facebook I don't see the location of the people who posted. What's that little dot between the location and the globe too?
 
2012-09-27 02:58:53 AM  

WMittensRomney: an ice cream company in Montana that no one has heard of, ever.


No one except people who have visited and purchased food at Yellowstone NP in at least the last few decades -- so, low tens of millions, tops.
 
2012-09-27 03:06:12 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Rule 1 of customer service: don't be a dick no matter how tempting it is

/Rule 2 is "Don't be a smartass to newly promoted managers even if they used to be your friends"
//but that's another story


Rule 3, be a dick to customers who deserve it as long as youre absolutely certain you can get away with it. Its rare, but its soooooooo worth it. Cathartic as hell too.
 
2012-09-27 03:08:36 AM  

dahmers love zombie: scottydoesntknow: Wilcoxon's next 'Flavor of the Month': Caramel Jockies!

Rocky Road Casbah?


Burka Bananas Foster?
 
2012-09-27 03:10:47 AM  
They will sell more to Real Americans(tm) [copyright Koch Industries] and less to everyone else.
 
2012-09-27 03:13:44 AM  

impaler: padraig: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?

You cannot KNOWINGLY eat pork. and you are excused if you are forced, or this is a choice betweeen that or dying. Otherwise, you are fine.

That's why the fantasies about pork bullets, burying muslims in bacon, forcing them to eat pork sandwich to condemn them to hell, etc.. are all bullshiat.

That's why the smart response would be: "Hey, you can't knowingly eat pork right? But if you know... Let's just say we're both better off if I don't tell you ;)"


This reminds me of a possibly apocryphal anecdote about Kissinger in China.

Mr Kissinger, while visiting China, was feted with a traditional Chinese banquet as the crowning event of his visit. The centerpiece of the dinner is carried to the table, and it is a whole roast piglet. Unmistakably a whole pig. One of Kissinger's local guides rush up to his Chinese host and whispers urgently in his ear, whereupon, the Chinese host picked up a choice piece of the pig, and said, "Mr Kissinger, please enjoy this national dish of China - Peking Duck."
 
2012-09-27 03:15:18 AM  

G-Rot: If the Muslims have made it into Sheridan, then the terrorists have won.


Those would be Muslims trying to get as far away from the crazy Muslims as possible.
 
2012-09-27 03:16:17 AM  

G-Rot: And look for our other exciting flavors:

'Cherry-a Law'

+1
 
2012-09-27 03:16:24 AM  

TomD9938: The correct response would have been, "There is no god, so who farking cares?".



So you know this for a fact?
 
2012-09-27 03:19:18 AM  
All of Wilcoxson's ice cream is excellent regardless of all the internet squawking. Hope it brings them more business from the cowboys and miners.
 
2012-09-27 03:19:53 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?


Quran 6:54 "When those come to you who believe in Our Signs, say: "Peace be on you! Your Lord had inscribed for Himself (the rule of) Mercy. Verily if any of you did evil in ignorance, and thereafter repented and amended (his conduct), Lo! He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
 
2012-09-27 03:23:10 AM  
GDit !! why have we not abolished religions yet ?!?!?! shut the fark up; and keep your mental illness to yourself. in what other arena of life is it acceptable to be intentionally ignorant and cultish ? NONE !! get ovedr it already, that shiat was fake thousands of years ago and it is fake now. what the hell ? respect people's faith ? NO fark you, all people of any religion should be publicly mocked and socially shunned until we have eradicated this disease from our species.
 
2012-09-27 03:24:04 AM  

Aarontology: Somehow I doubt that if the person had asked if it was kosher he wouldn't have said "We don't ship to Israel"


Indeed.
 
2012-09-27 03:26:09 AM  

Barfmaker: I apologize if he took it wrong, that's not what I meant by it.

Man I hate when they say that. Nobody took it wrong, you said a dick thing, you were wrong. Grab a pair and accept it and apologize properly. It could have even been an excellent marketing opportunity.


you have it backwards. grab a pair and stick to your guns. we are allowed to insult people if we want to. fark apologizing. Tiger Woods should also have just said, hell yes i farked as many as i could you cant even guess the real number !!
 
2012-09-27 03:27:08 AM  
Being from Wyoming, I'm getting a kick out of these replies


/Not near Sheridan

1morefilmblog.com
 
2012-09-27 03:27:10 AM  
Quran 33.29. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
 
2012-09-27 03:28:56 AM  
Quran 33.5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
 
2012-09-27 03:30:53 AM  
Weeners FTA: "Typical lib's...

If the guys Facebook page indicated he may be from PAKISTAN, then the response was appropriate.

You lib's are bent on welcoming a very hateful and dangerous group of religious people into this country. In fifty years, the Mexicans (yeah, Mexicans...) will be competing with Muslims for control of the United States of America. Black and caucasian Americans will be the minority. "


goddessoffiction.com
 
2012-09-27 03:32:22 AM  

MadSkillz: I'm allergic to pork. The question is valid.


no you are not, there is no such thing. you may be allergic to additives or fuels used in cooking.
 
2012-09-27 03:33:02 AM  
They hate the jews.
 
2012-09-27 03:33:47 AM  

nmemkha: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?

The same thing that happens when an hetrosexual atheist learns the "chowder soup" he just ate was squeegeed goo from the floor of a gay sex club.


Orders seconds?
 
2012-09-27 03:35:48 AM  

bestie1: Quran 33.29. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-27 03:36:46 AM  

Mimic_Octopus: GDit !! why have we not abolished religions yet ?!?!?! shut the fark up; and keep your mental illness to yourself. in what other arena of life is it acceptable to be intentionally ignorant and cultish ? NONE !! get ovedr it already, that shiat was fake thousands of years ago and it is fake now. what the hell ? respect people's faith ? NO fark you, all people of any religion should be publicly mocked and socially shunned until we have eradicated this disease from our species.


You sound foamy.
 
2012-09-27 03:39:31 AM  

rewind2846: swfan:
Believing the invisibly sky wizard forbade anyone from eating anything is pretty damned silly to begin with...

Maybe so... but people believe what they believe. As long as they don't try to force me to believe it, we get along.
If they're Muslim or Jewish, I cook them a burger. If they're Hindu, I put some hot dogs on the grill. Simple.


if your religion aka "condition" prevents you from eating food that everyone else at the table is eating, it is your problem not ours. bring your own damn exceptions you weakling imposition of a guest.
 
2012-09-27 03:40:14 AM  
I'm an atheist but I'll say this: The violence in the bible is always something like "and lo god sayeth to Jebedusal go forth and slay the Hotentots" while the violence in the Quaran is "kill anyone who won't convert unless they are of the book (Jewish or Christian) then they can pay the Jizya (poll tax) if they can afford it instead" Now if Christians and Jews want to be literal they have go resurrect a bunch of dead cultures before they get to be all stabby while muslims have an open ended mandate.
 
2012-09-27 03:44:02 AM  
A note to all humans:

Stop failing, please.

Thanks, Cyclometh.
 
2012-09-27 03:44:42 AM  
Uh

bestie1: Quran 33.5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


Uh...actually 33:5 is "Call them by their fathers, that is more just with Allah. But if you know not their father's, your brothers in faith and Mawalikum (your freed servants). And there is no sin on you concerning that in which you made a mistake, except in regard to what your hearts deliberately intend. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.)"

33:29 is "But if you desire Allah and His Messenger, and the Home of the Hereafter, then verily, Allah has prepared for the doers of good among you an enormous reward.'')"

The verses you are quoting are chapter 9 (Surah Tawba), a chapter that deals specifically with a broken truce in between the tribes of Arabia and the Prophet (PBUH) and his followers that prevented the Muslims from traveling to Makkah for pilgrimage. I'm sure you can read the entirety of it yourself, but if you would actually like to understand the context I suggest an english translation of Tafsir Ibn Kathir. Or I could provide a brief summary when I return from work (on call at the hospital).

However, if you quoted these verses without context, history or understanding just to troll, then props to you to xenophobic piece of shiat.
 
2012-09-27 03:46:11 AM  
Edit: ...props to you, you xenophobic piece of shiat.
 
2012-09-27 03:46:29 AM  
Wilcoxsin's Ice Cream: "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan."
Butthurtmuslim: "I think.ur comment is rude to assume I line in Pakistan."


If the ice cream shop assumed he lived in Pakistan due to his avatar when they commented then it's innocent enough. Butthurtmuslim is the one that actually made any kind of racist comment.
 
2012-09-27 03:57:50 AM  
Too bad Islamic jurists don't historically agree with you:

"Fight Jews and Christians because they violated the origin of their faith and they do not believe in the religion of the truth (Islam), which abrogated all other religions. Fight them until they pay the poll-tax (Ziziya tax) with submission and humiliation." al-Baidawi

"In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united in Islam, so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them at the same" Ibn Khaldun

"The prophet Muhammad did not accept from the Arab heathens less than Islam or the sword. This is compulsion of faith. No compulsion in faith (or religion) applies only to Christians or Jews because they are not to be forced to embrace the religion. They have the option either to embrace Islam, the sword, or to pay the poll-tax. In this case they can keep their own faith. It was truly said on the authority of the apostle of God that there is no compulsion in the faith." Ibn Kathir

Oh yeah I have Albanian family ties you pig fark so don't tell me about your religion of peace. You farking pigs carried of children and castrated them to serve as Janisarries. Instituted the poll tax in Europe and destroyed the Balkans. That wasn't ancient history either.
 
2012-09-27 04:00:48 AM  

bestie1: I'm an atheist but I'll say this: The violence in the bible is always something like "and lo god sayeth to Jebedusal go forth and slay the Hotentots" while the violence in the Quaran is "kill anyone who won't convert unless they are of the book (Jewish or Christian) then they can pay the Jizya (poll tax) if they can afford it instead" Now if Christians and Jews want to be literal they have go resurrect a bunch of dead cultures before they get to be all stabby while muslims have an open ended mandate.


Did you read some bowdlerized version of the bible?

"The LORD had said to Moses, "Pharaoh will refuse to listen to you -- so that my wonders may be multiplied in Egypt." Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country."

God goes out of his way to make Pharaoh a dick so he can slaughter a bunch of Egyptian babies.

and as for the issue of killing non-believers

"Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed."

"Then the LORD said to Moses: "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him."

Oops, looks like you don't know what the fark you are talking about.
 
2012-09-27 04:03:11 AM  

bestie1: I'm an atheist but I'll say this: The violence in the bible is always something like "and lo god sayeth to Jebedusal go forth and slay the Hotentots" while the violence in the Quaran is "kill anyone who won't convert unless they are of the book (Jewish or Christian) then they can pay the Jizya (poll tax) if they can afford it instead" Now if Christians and Jews want to be literal they have go resurrect a bunch of dead cultures before they get to be all stabby while muslims have an open ended mandate.


You need to read the bible more carefully than. It too states to kill the non-believers.
 
2012-09-27 04:06:46 AM  

bestie1: Now if Christians and Jews want to be literal they have go resurrect a bunch of dead cultures before they get to be all stabby while muslims have an open ended mandate.


Too bad Christian jurists don't historically agree with you: See Crusades, witch burnings, and unexpectedly the Spanish inquisition.
 
2012-09-27 04:07:47 AM  

brap: If there is "pork gelatin" in your ice cream I don't need to be Muslim to not want to eat your product.  GAAAAAAAH!
 
*shivers*


You... what? You don't actually know very much about what food is made of do you? Gelatin is a common ice cream ingredient, even in homemade ice cream. Gelatin is stabiliser or gelling agent in a lot of things. Marshmallows, gummy bears, cream cheese, cake frosting, soup...

Shall I tell you what Jello is made of? Go on, guess. The sound of the name might help you.

/Mmmm, raspberry-flavoured rendered pigskin
 
2012-09-27 04:07:49 AM  
Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die
 
2012-09-27 04:08:09 AM  
Ok you

one small post for man: bestie1: I'm an atheist but I'll say this: The violence in the bible is always something like "and lo god sayeth to Jebedusal go forth and slay the Hotentots" while the violence in the Quaran is "kill anyone who won't convert unless they are of the book (Jewish or Christian) then they can pay the Jizya (poll tax) if they can afford it instead" Now if Christians and Jews want to be literal they have go resurrect a bunch of dead cultures before they get to be all stabby while muslims have an open ended mandate.

Did you read some bowdlerized version of the bible?

"The LORD had said to Moses, "Pharaoh will refuse to listen to you -- so that my wonders may be multiplied in Egypt." Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country."

God goes out of his way to make Pharaoh a dick so he can slaughter a bunch of Egyptian babies.

and as for the issue of killing non-believers

"Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed."

"Then the LORD said to Moses: "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him."

Oops, looks like you don't know what the fark you are talking about.


You totally got me. We need to form a strike team immediately to protect Pharaoh along the blasphemers and goat lovers in Moses camp. What I am missing though is a commandment to spread Judaism by the sword in perpetuity. You actually can't do that can you since Judaism isn't a meme. You actually have to be a born a Jew.
 
2012-09-27 04:12:00 AM  
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
 
2012-09-27 04:14:30 AM  

Mimic_Octopus: GDit !! why have we not abolished religions yet ?!?!?! shut the fark up; and keep your mental illness to yourself. in what other arena of life is it acceptable to be intentionally ignorant and cultish ? NONE !! get ovedr it already, that shiat was fake thousands of years ago and it is fake now. what the hell ? respect people's faith ? NO fark you, all people of any religion should be publicly mocked and socially shunned until we have eradicated this disease from our species.


Oh, is it time to start dictating what people are allowed to think independently about? Awesome! Is it my turn yet? I say that any snot-nosed brats that think they have the right to try and control what goes on inside people's heads should be forced back through grade school history and spend a little time figuring out why people came over here in the first place.

Since I don't actually have the authority to do that (for which I am profoundly thankful), I'll leave it be and ask this instead: what exactly do you consider to be a religion? Christianity? Paganism? Quantum mechanics? String theory? Science fiction?
 
2012-09-27 04:16:03 AM  

bestie1: The prophet Muhammad did not accept from the Arab heathens less than Islam or the sword. This is compulsion of faith. No compulsion in faith (or religion) applies only to Christians or Jews because they are not to be forced to embrace the religion. They have the option either to embrace Islam, the sword, or to pay the poll-tax. In this case they can keep their own faith. It was truly said on the authority of the apostle of God that there is no compulsion in the faith


Yup...trolling...you are attempting to present opinion of philosophers in imperial history as fact. I'm sure that if one dug around, one can find quotes from scholars of any major religion that are as extreme as the ones you quoted. Your 'facts' are the opinions of a 13th century philosopher (al baidawi), a 14th century philosopher (Khaldun), and in direct contradiction to Quran 2:256 "Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things." along with the entirety of chapter 109. (Link)

I don't deny there are Muslims in this world who have skewed beliefs and extremist interpretations of the the Quran and Hadith: a problem that plagues every organized religion in the world where poverty and illiteracy are present. However, what portion of the 1.7 billion Muslims actually partake in extremism. The majority of Muslims, indeed the majority of the world, would prefer to just live their lives, free of paranoid and batshiat crazy loons like you. You are either being either a) willfully ignorant and hypocritical, or b) purposefully Islamophobic (or xenophobic, if you prefer to think of the first as a fiction).

PS: You do realize that Muslims have to pay Zakah, while those who payed Jizyah had no such restriction, right?
 
2012-09-27 04:16:17 AM  
impaler Multiple responses at once.

People grow up and so do cultures except Islam apparently. Though the crusades were a reaction to the Islamic pillaging of 4 of the original 5 christian churches and the blocking of pilgrimages to the holy sites. You do know that most of the middle east was christian until the muslims sacked it and imposed Jizya.

As far as Deuteronomy 17 I don't see anything about going to other countries and imposing your religion on them. I'm not really keen on persecuting people within a country but then again the west has grown out of that. Islam is still in the dark ages.
 
2012-09-27 04:17:25 AM  
 
2012-09-27 04:17:25 AM  
New flavor of the month: Chunky IED Victim.
 
2012-09-27 04:21:06 AM  

fmk040: Zakah


Zakah is not enforced by the sword. In Albania and in other lands:
Muslim's didn't have to wear identifying clothing.
Muslim's could ride horses.
Muslim's couldn't be stopped on the street and Zakah demanded.
Muslim's could build new Mosques.
Muslim's could repair their Mosques.
Muslim's Mosques weren't converted into Churches.
Muslim children were not taken as part of Zakah.
 
2012-09-27 04:21:56 AM  
wiki: Gelatin is classed as a food in its own right and not subject to the food additives legislation in Europe. Gelatin has its own E number: 441.

This tells me that when gelatin is made the source is indistinguishable, just as though if you distilled urine or raw sewage or apple juice, you'd get water.
 
2012-09-27 04:24:40 AM  
if_i_really_have_to: You... what? You don't actually know very much about what food is made of do you? Gelatin is a common ice cream ingredient, even in homemade ice cream.

There's no gelatin in my homemade ice cream.

// doesn't have a problem with gelatin or delicious bacon, but home made ice cream doesn't need additional gelatin added.

// Gelatin is a stabilizer added mostly to slow the formation of ice crystals. My homemade ice cream doesn't stick around long enough to have a problem with ice crystals.
 
2012-09-27 04:25:23 AM  
i48.tinypic.com

/q&d
 
2012-09-27 04:27:05 AM  
on a side note, you should- no, you MUST see this film:

"When Pigs Have Wings"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1735200/

absolutely hilarious!
 
2012-09-27 04:30:31 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: In TFA's sidebar there's a link to an earlier story: a history and profile of the ice cream company.

This is a lot of butthurt over a 100 year-old firm that employs 22 people.

FWIW, the second story says the firm delivers to Cody and Sheridan, Wyoming.


Now employs 21 people. It's one thing to have a personal bigotry towards certain races or religions (got me on both counts here). It's another to show those same bigotries while working for a company and acting as their public face. He made the mistake of doing this while representing the company and should rightly be fired as it's a massive PR issue.
 
2012-09-27 04:31:37 AM  

bestie1: impaler Multiple responses at once.

People grow up and so do cultures except Islam apparently. Though the crusades were a reaction to the Islamic pillaging of 4 of the original 5 christian churches and the blocking of pilgrimages to the holy sites. You do know that most of the middle east was christian until the muslims sacked it and imposed Jizya.

As far as Deuteronomy 17 I don't see anything about going to other countries and imposing your religion on them. I'm not really keen on persecuting people within a country but then again the west has grown out of that. Islam is still in the dark ages.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-27 04:33:33 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: [i48.tinypic.com image 503x436]

/q&d


Huh...did not realize I was coming across particularly strong or as if I was simmering with rage...thanks for the heads up, I'll dial it back.
 
2012-09-27 04:34:19 AM  

bestie1: Ok youone small post for man: bestie1: I'm an atheist but I'll say this: The violence in the bible is always something like "and lo god sayeth to Jebedusal go forth and slay the Hotentots" while the violence in the Quaran is "kill anyone who won't convert unless they are of the book (Jewish or Christian) then they can pay the Jizya (poll tax) if they can afford it instead" Now if Christians and Jews want to be literal they have go resurrect a bunch of dead cultures before they get to be all stabby while muslims have an open ended mandate.

Did you read some bowdlerized version of the bible?

"The LORD had said to Moses, "Pharaoh will refuse to listen to you -- so that my wonders may be multiplied in Egypt." Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country."

God goes out of his way to make Pharaoh a dick so he can slaughter a bunch of Egyptian babies.

and as for the issue of killing non-believers

"Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed."

"Then the LORD said to Moses: "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him."

Oops, looks like you don't know what the fark you are talking about.

You totally got me. We need to form a strike team immediately to protect Pharaoh along the blasphemers and goat lovers in Moses camp. What I am missing though is a commandment to spread Judaism by the sword in perpetuity. You actually can't do that can you since Judaism isn't a meme. You actually have to be a born a Jew.


So infanticide and killing non-believers is cool as long as it's a one time deal?

guess you are cool with genocide too

'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'

and slavery

"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel."

and I guess the Spanish Inquisition didn't happen...

or the Crusades...

and Christians haven't been known to kill an abortion providing doctor or a homosexual now and then.

But the Bible doesn't specifically tell people to forcibly convert others so Christianity is objectively better than Islam obviously
 
2012-09-27 04:44:01 AM  

Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.


But the market system is far from perfect, so businesses that practice bigotry against minorities will more often than not get away with doing it for as long as they care to (unless their behavior becomes widely noticed and disapproved of enough by the majority of their customers enough to actually change their purchasing decisions, but that is pretty rare).
 
2012-09-27 04:51:47 AM  

xria: Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.

But the market system is far from perfect, so businesses that practice bigotry against minorities will more often than not get away with doing it for as long as they care to (unless their behavior becomes widely noticed and disapproved of enough by the majority of their customers enough to actually change their purchasing decisions, but that is pretty rare).


As illustrated by:
www.local12.com
 
2012-09-27 04:54:17 AM  

fmk040: God-is-a-Taco: [i48.tinypic.com image 503x436]

/q&d

Huh...did not realize I was coming across particularly strong or as if I was simmering with rage...thanks for the heads up, I'll dial it back.


Heh, no no, it was a joke. There's an internet meme and... well... yes.
 
2012-09-27 04:56:01 AM  

one small post for man: bestie1: Ok youone small post for man: bestie1: I'm an atheist but I'll say this: The violence in the bible is always something like "and lo god sayeth to Jebedusal go forth and slay the Hotentots" while the violence in the Quaran is "kill anyone who won't convert unless they are of the book (Jewish or Christian) then they can pay the Jizya (poll tax) if they can afford it instead" Now if Christians and Jews want to be literal they have go resurrect a bunch of dead cultures before they get to be all stabby while muslims have an open ended mandate.

Did you read some bowdlerized version of the bible?

"The LORD had said to Moses, "Pharaoh will refuse to listen to you -- so that my wonders may be multiplied in Egypt." Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country."

God goes out of his way to make Pharaoh a dick so he can slaughter a bunch of Egyptian babies.

and as for the issue of killing non-believers

"Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed."

"Then the LORD said to Moses: "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him."

Oops, looks like you don't know what the fark you are talking about.

You totally got me. We need to form a strike team immediately to protect Pharaoh along the blasphemers and goat lovers in Moses camp. What I am missing though is a commandment to spread Judaism by the sword in perpetuity. You actually can't do that can you since Judaism isn't a meme. You actually have to be a born a Jew.

So infanticide and killing non-believers is cool as long as it's a one time deal?

guess you are cool with genocide too

'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill b ...


Ok let's send a swat team to Amalek too I'm sure he'd appreciate the help.

Sura 5:51: "O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them." This friendship makes any Muslim a enemy of their own and deserving of the same fate as the unbeliever. This is because God does not guide an unjust people.

See the difference because I do. Christians and Jews are of the book. I'm not and under Islam I have to convert or die. I don't even get the option of paying Jizya.

That's not some ancient Aramaic thing. It's current practice. Maybe you should stop reading HuffPo's bs and see what really was done to the Copts in Egypt last year or the Lebanese who I'm sure you don't know where primarily Christian (84%) as late as 1926.
 
2012-09-27 05:05:45 AM  

bestie1: one small post for man: bestie1: Ok youone small post for man: bestie1: I'm an atheist but I'll say this: The violence in the bible is always something like "and lo god sayeth to Jebedusal go forth and slay the Hotentots" while the violence in the Quaran is "kill anyone who won't convert unless they are of the book (Jewish or Christian) then they can pay the Jizya (poll tax) if they can afford it instead" Now if Christians and Jews want to be literal they have go resurrect a bunch of dead cultures before they get to be all stabby while muslims have an open ended mandate.

Did you read some bowdlerized version of the bible?

"The LORD had said to Moses, "Pharaoh will refuse to listen to you -- so that my wonders may be multiplied in Egypt." Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country."

God goes out of his way to make Pharaoh a dick so he can slaughter a bunch of Egyptian babies.

and as for the issue of killing non-believers

"Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed."

"Then the LORD said to Moses: "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him."

Oops, looks like you don't know what the fark you are talking about.

You totally got me. We need to form a strike team immediately to protect Pharaoh along the blasphemers and goat lovers in Moses camp. What I am missing though is a commandment to spread Judaism by the sword in perpetuity. You actually can't do that can you since Judaism isn't a meme. You actually have to be a born a Jew.

So infanticide and killing non-believers is cool as long as it's a one time deal?

guess you are cool with genocide too

'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do no ...


Bestie...this applies to you.

Chapter 109
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
Say [Muhammad]: "O disbelievers! (1) I do not worship those whom you worship. (2) Nor are you worshipers of Him Whom I worship. (3) Nor am I a worshiper of those whom you have worshiped. Nor are you worshipers of Him Whom I worship. (4) For you is your religion and for me is mine. (5)"

[added for context]
bolded for emphasis

So, please, stop. You are dragging down the level of discourse by not only being ignorant, but aggressively so.
 
2012-09-27 05:11:09 AM  
Guys, guys, can't we all just agree that those stories have no basis in reality and were products of an age of great violence and suffering between groups of people needing something to live for?
It's all the same god(s) from previous religions, anyway.

This age is better, we broke free from the cults of the past. Improve this world instead the one promised to you by those writers and editors a few thousand years ago.

Build hospitals instead of churches, schools instead of mosques. Etc etc. Fark your god
 
2012-09-27 05:12:14 AM  
The saddest thing is I can do this all day. Do you want videos and pics of young girls being stoned. Here you go and this scratches the surface of what is out there:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=580_1292945861
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392454/Muslim-girl-Katya-Kor e n-19-stoned-death-beauty-contest-Ukraine.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TXDnp8uBkRM

Want some gays being hung? I get you that. Slit throats no problem. How much muslim torture/death porn do you want. Give me a number I can find it.
 
2012-09-27 05:13:14 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Guys, guys, can't we all just agree that those stories have no basis in reality and were products of an age of great violence and suffering between groups of people needing something to live for?
It's all the same god(s) from previous religions, anyway.

This age is better, we broke free from the cults of the past. Improve this world instead the one promised to you by those writers and editors a few thousand years ago.

Build hospitals instead of churches, schools instead of mosques. Etc etc. Fark your god


I'm OK with more hospitals and schools. More mobility for me. Hells of slow night...just getting randomly paged to the ward with some lab results...nothing interesting at all. Bored...and sleepy. Mostly bored.
 
2012-09-27 05:14:00 AM  
How about some honor killings? I can find dozens of those right here in the west. Want some?
 
2012-09-27 05:15:18 AM  
They are farking proud of it. They post it themselves.
 
2012-09-27 05:30:12 AM  

bestie1: The saddest thing is I can do this all day. Do you want videos and pics of young girls being stoned. Here you go and this scratches the surface of what is out there:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=580_1292945861
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392454/Muslim-girl-Katya-Kor e n-19-stoned-death-beauty-contest-Ukraine.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TXDnp8uBkRM

Want some gays being hung? I get you that. Slit throats no problem. How much muslim torture/death porn do you want. Give me a number I can find it.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/31/george-tiller-killed-abor_n_ 2 09504.html
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10576100701611288
http://www.now.org/eNews/dec2002/120202kopp.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/18/international/africa/18uganda.html? _ r=0

huh, it's almost as if people of all faiths will use their religion to justify atrocious acts

but keep ignoring all the evidence of that being presented to you and shine on you crazy xenophobe, shine on
 
2012-09-27 05:54:01 AM  
Give me a farking break if you add up every abortion doctor murder it's still less than 1 west bank school bus bombing. I'm not defending Christian radicals but all your doing is spinning. Why are you so dead set on defending the indefensible? Especially when the people your defending would like me if I converted and hate you. Muslim's love conservatives. I could pretend to be everything I am sure you think I am and own your shiat.

fark your Uganda. The Christian angle is a PR game. They site the 10 commandments and talk about maiming people. They aren't using your passages to justify themselves they just think they are making time for themselves by pretending to be Christian.
 
2012-09-27 05:58:26 AM  
Thinking outside the box here...

What would this guy really have to lose by saying "Yeah, I made the joke, it was a joke, I dont dislike muslims, but im not going to walk on eggshells around them either"?

Seems to me if he only delivers to Montana, this might actually HELP his business.
 
2012-09-27 06:05:14 AM  

bestie1: Give me a farking break if you add up every abortion doctor murder it's still less than 1 west bank school bus bombing. I'm not defending Christian radicals but all your doing is spinning. Why are you so dead set on defending the indefensible? Especially when the people your defending would like me if I converted and hate you. Muslim's love conservatives. I could pretend to be everything I am sure you think I am and own your shiat.

fark your Uganda. The Christian angle is a PR game. They site the 10 commandments and talk about maiming people. They aren't using your passages to justify themselves they just think they are making time for themselves by pretending to be Christian.


Somebody listened to Glenn Beck yesterday.
 
2012-09-27 06:10:15 AM  

Ecobuckeye: bestie1: Give me a farking break if you add up every abortion doctor murder it's still less than 1 west bank school bus bombing. I'm not defending Christian radicals but all your doing is spinning. Why are you so dead set on defending the indefensible? Especially when the people your defending would like me if I converted and hate you. Muslim's love conservatives. I could pretend to be everything I am sure you think I am and own your shiat.

fark your Uganda. The Christian angle is a PR game. They site the 10 commandments and talk about maiming people. They aren't using your passages to justify themselves they just think they are making time for themselves by pretending to be Christian.

Somebody listened to Glenn Beck yesterday.


Im guessing you?
 
2012-09-27 06:12:00 AM  

bestie1: [i.imgur.com image 626x405]
Doesn't the header look funny. When I look at groups and likes on my facebook I don't see the location of the people who posted. What's that little dot between the location and the globe too?


Its a copy and paste is what that little dot is. Someone didnt even go through the trouble of using photoshop to doctor this one up.
 
2012-09-27 06:20:41 AM  

I sound fat: Ecobuckeye: bestie1: Give me a farking break if you add up every abortion doctor murder it's still less than 1 west bank school bus bombing. I'm not defending Christian radicals but all your doing is spinning. Why are you so dead set on defending the indefensible? Especially when the people your defending would like me if I converted and hate you. Muslim's love conservatives. I could pretend to be everything I am sure you think I am and own your shiat.

fark your Uganda. The Christian angle is a PR game. They site the 10 commandments and talk about maiming people. They aren't using your passages to justify themselves they just think they are making time for themselves by pretending to be Christian.

Somebody listened to Glenn Beck yesterday.

Im guessing you?


Sure! There's no other talk radio in Toledo during those hours. One more reason to plan my exodus.
 
2012-09-27 06:23:04 AM  

I sound fat: bestie1: [i.imgur.com image 626x405]
Doesn't the header look funny. When I look at groups and likes on my facebook I don't see the location of the people who posted. What's that little dot between the location and the globe too?

Its a copy and paste is what that little dot is. Someone didnt even go through the trouble of using photoshop to doctor this one up.


I'm thinking of my Dad trying to use Facebook. He sees a pic of Pakistan and he makes a joke. It's not a "racist" joke about Muslims it's just that Pakistan is the far side of the moon to him so he jokes about sending Ice Cream to Pakistan. Then Omar decides to make front page on Reddit by doing a little creative editing.

No one sees that angle though. He has to be filled with hate because he's from Montana and only angry white people live there.
 
2012-09-27 06:33:38 AM  
I'm 62 years old, and over the course of my life, I have seen a subtle shift in the dialogue about religions.
people used to argue over which religion was best. The dialogue seems to have shifted to which is the worst, and which are least objectionable.
I suppose that's a step in the right direction.
 
2012-09-27 06:34:36 AM  

bestie1: Give me a farking break if you add up every abortion doctor murder it's still less than 1 west bank school bus bombing. I'm not defending Christian radicals but all your doing is spinning. Why are you so dead set on defending the indefensible? Especially when the people your defending would like me if I converted and hate you. Muslim's love conservatives. I could pretend to be everything I am sure you think I am and own your shiat.

fark your Uganda. The Christian angle is a PR game. They site the 10 commandments and talk about maiming people. They aren't using your passages to justify themselves they just think they are making time for themselves by pretending to be Christian.


I'm the one doing the spinning? Project much, buddy? Those "no true Scotsman" arguments of yours are really compelling.

Also, please learn the difference between your and you're.
 
2012-09-27 06:50:06 AM  

TheDumbBlonde: It's Montana. He's lucky his reply wasn't "Caveat Emptor, Ackmed".


www.ibiblio.org

Would have liked to have tried the vanilla.
 
2012-09-27 07:07:31 AM  

G-Rot: If the Muslims have made it into Sheridan, then the terrorists have won.

/sharia law will now demand that the lyrics to "Home on the Range" be changed to include goats.


Sharia law isn't practiced in most countries with a Muslim majority, why should it be introduced and/or implemented here in the US? And if you think WE will let them, it either shows your ignorance or your utter lack of faith in the US maintaining its own legal system.

As for goats, I'll have you know Captain Cook's first trip on the HM Bark Endeavor had only ONE female, and it happened to be a goat. They said it was for getting milk, and they are "proper Englishmen", so God forbid they would use the goat for any other purposes but milking (*wink*wink*).

You can keep hating and spewing more hatred, or you can get over it and get out there and travel and learn about countries, cultures, religions and beliefs the world over before coming up with and propagating your pigeon-holed perceptions.
 
2012-09-27 07:12:32 AM  
People with stupid beliefs deserve derision.

Oh noes, my bronze age feelings have been hurted!!
 
2012-09-27 07:14:05 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-27 07:25:48 AM  
I could see this being like one of those King of the Hill episodes where someone comes to Arlen and misconstrues something Hank does out of good faith and thinks he's a bad father, or racist. The guy is probably bad at the internet, and not used to seeing muslims. He possibly read something wrong on her profile or post and made a mistake.
 
2012-09-27 08:19:06 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Yes, Mr. Farktarded CEO......if you're a Muslim, you must be in the Middle East, since there are no Muslims anywhere else in the world. You've quite clearly got a firm grasp on cultural geography.

*face palm*


Pakistan is in South Asia. Also, I'm not sure how people can label it as racist in the article. Anti-Islamic, yes, but certainly not racist, unless he singled out the tribal Pashtuns or the gun-totting Balochs...

Laughable dietary rules should be mocked; good for the CEO :).
 
2012-09-27 08:30:33 AM  

Tabak: Coco LaFemme: Yes, Mr. Farktarded CEO......if you're a Muslim, you must be in the Middle East, since there are no Muslims anywhere else in the world. You've quite clearly got a firm grasp on cultural geography.

*face palm*

Pakistan is in South Asia. Also, I'm not sure how people can label it as racist in the article. Anti-Islamic, yes, but certainly not racist, unless he singled out the tribal Pashtuns or the gun-totting Balochs...

Laughable dietary rules should be mocked; good for the CEO :).


In the absence of proper cooking, injesting pork does carry risks. The prohbition originating from a religious dogma that you disagree with doesn't change that fact.
 
2012-09-27 08:39:37 AM  

Aarontology: Somehow I doubt that if the person had asked if it was kosher he wouldn't have said "We don't ship to Israel"


No, he'd have said "We don't ship to New York."
 
2012-09-27 08:41:36 AM  

nmemkha: Tabak: Coco LaFemme: Yes, Mr. Farktarded CEO......if you're a Muslim, you must be in the Middle East, since there are no Muslims anywhere else in the world. You've quite clearly got a firm grasp on cultural geography.

*face palm*

Pakistan is in South Asia. Also, I'm not sure how people can label it as racist in the article. Anti-Islamic, yes, but certainly not racist, unless he singled out the tribal Pashtuns or the gun-totting Balochs...

Laughable dietary rules should be mocked; good for the CEO :).

In the absence of proper cooking, injesting pork does carry risks. The prohbition originating from a religious dogma that you disagree with doesn't change that fact.


This is if intestinal health was the original goal. Jewish settlements could easily be identified by them not having pig bones in the rubbish heap. If differentiation was the goal, it succeeded. As of now, the prohibition of pork products is solely for the latter. Unlikely as it is, if only for health reasons, what is the point of brining Mr. Sky God into it? Let's shame him out of existence and have a discussion of health, not theology with the morons.
 
2012-09-27 08:56:20 AM  

Tabak: nmemkha: Tabak: Coco LaFemme: Yes, Mr. Farktarded CEO......if you're a Muslim, you must be in the Middle East, since there are no Muslims anywhere else in the world. You've quite clearly got a firm grasp on cultural geography.

*face palm*

Pakistan is in South Asia. Also, I'm not sure how people can label it as racist in the article. Anti-Islamic, yes, but certainly not racist, unless he singled out the tribal Pashtuns or the gun-totting Balochs...

Laughable dietary rules should be mocked; good for the CEO :).

In the absence of proper cooking, injesting pork does carry risks. The prohbition originating from a religious dogma that you disagree with doesn't change that fact.

This is if intestinal health was the original goal. Jewish settlements could easily be identified by them not having pig bones in the rubbish heap. If differentiation was the goal, it succeeded. As of now, the prohibition of pork products is solely for the latter. Unlikely as it is, if only for health reasons, what is the point of brining Mr. Sky God into it? Let's shame him out of existence and have a discussion of health, not theology with the morons.


Easy tiger, I was merely pointing out the abstaining from pork is wise in world without modern sanitation and food handling practices. Why its was the one of dietary laws of Abhamanic religions is debatable. Before the advent of science, a lot of "good advice" (observational wisdom) about life got coded into religious dogmas. The ancient Egyptians did it all the time.
 
2012-09-27 08:59:55 AM  
Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr religion!

Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr God hates pork!


/pharking fables fools live by
 
2012-09-27 09:04:46 AM  
Regardless of the original intent behind various religious dietary rules, trichinosis has all but been eliminated from our commercial pork supply. I mean yeah, 3000 years ago it's perfectly reasonable for desert tribes with no access to refrigeration to not mix their meat with dairy products or to not eat pork or shellfish or rock badgers. But now there's little reason for it beyond tradition.

/what's a rock badger?
//doesn't matter, can't eat it
 
2012-09-27 09:06:28 AM  
So when will Huckabee stage a customer appreciation day?
 
2012-09-27 09:10:52 AM  

Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.


Yeah, all those "whites only" stores in the south went out of business due to not having customers. That's why there's no need for civil rights laws.
 
2012-09-27 09:11:45 AM  
Yes!!!
Fake outrage is soooo exciting!
 
2012-09-27 09:14:03 AM  
CSB: A couple of jobs ago I was the only white American guy working with a half dozen Indian guys, who were ALL devout religiously, strict vegetarians, etc etc. Maybe a month into the project I notice one of them with one of those little premade jello cups. I was torn, but finally said "Er, Ajay, you know what that is made of, right?" "No...." I told him to go do a search. About 5 minutes later he's on the phone with his wife. Apparently he had to do some 10 day purification thing or something.
 
2012-09-27 09:16:17 AM  

nmemkha: Easy tiger, I was merely pointing out the abstaining from pork is wise in world without modern sanitation and food handling practices. Why its was the one of dietary laws of Abhamanic religions is debatable. Before the advent of science, a lot of "good advice" (observational wisdom) about life got coded into religious dogmas. The ancient Egyptians did it all the time.


The food hygiene link to pork prohibitions in the Bible is tenuous at best.
 
2012-09-27 09:18:44 AM  

Cyno01: Regardless of the original intent behind various religious dietary rules, trichinosis has all but been eliminated from our commercial pork supply. I mean yeah, 3000 years ago it's perfectly reasonable for desert tribes with no access to refrigeration to not mix their meat with dairy products or to not eat pork or shellfish or rock badgers. But now there's little reason for it beyond tradition.

/what's a rock badger?
//doesn't matter, can't eat it


One of the tenent on which America was founded is freedom (of / from) religion. Without that nuggest of wisdom from our Founding Fathers, we all would be lorded over by the "Christian" majority more so than we are now. With this right comes the responsibility to respect the beliefs of others. If you don't, you run he risk of losing the right and being beholden to the whims of the irrational religious majoirty that surrounds you.

Sure its fun to mock religions, but it isn't so nice when you get trolled back with Creationist textbooks.
 
2012-09-27 09:19:30 AM  
I know a Muslim who will not eat pork, period. But he'll drink the shiat out of some alcohol. Makes no sense.
 
2012-09-27 09:22:19 AM  

intelligent comment below: TomD9938: The correct response would have been, "There is no god, so who farking cares?".


So you know this for a fact?


Of course... Otherwise I'd be an agnostic.
 
2012-09-27 09:24:46 AM  

HailRobonia: nmemkha: Easy tiger, I was merely pointing out the abstaining from pork is wise in world without modern sanitation and food handling practices. Why its was the one of dietary laws of Abhamanic religions is debatable. Before the advent of science, a lot of "good advice" (observational wisdom) about life got coded into religious dogmas. The ancient Egyptians did it all the time.

The food hygiene link to pork prohibitions in the Bible is tenuous at best.


No, its applying rudamentary onservational science:

1. People ate pigs. Some got weird ailments
2. People who did not eat pigs, did not get sick
3. Wizard, "The aligments are caused by the of goat demons infesting pig's magic skull jello!"
4. Schmuck, "No demons for me, thanks!"
5. King, "You know we should write this pig thing down, but make me a hero or something. Also, add a dragon."
 
2012-09-27 09:25:24 AM  

fusillade762: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?


Hey, you can't eat that, dude!

Why not?

It's astrological significance has passed, man. This is the new age, accept it.

That sucks, we were just smoking it up at church last month.

Yeah we took care of the cook. New thing called stoning. New age man, accept it.

Why don't you stone me then? I ate it.

You're cool dude, you just have to pay this bag and you can go home. See you at next month's grill out. We're having two fish.

Sweet! I'll bring a loaf of bread. Thanks for the invite!

Don't forget to pay the bag ...
 
2012-09-27 09:35:01 AM  

padraig: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?

You cannot KNOWINGLY eat pork. and you are excused if you are forced, or this is a choice betweeen that or dying. Otherwise, you are fine.

That's why the fantasies about pork bullets, burying muslims in bacon, forcing them to eat pork sandwich to condemn them to hell, etc.. are all bullshiat.


That, and the fact that there is no invisible magic sky fairy actually out there punishing people for their food choices.
 
2012-09-27 09:36:23 AM  
Silly Jesus Smartest
Funniest
2012-09-27 07:12:32 AM


People with stupid beliefs deserve derision.

Oh noes, my bronze age feelings have been hurted!!




As do people who are actually upset by this.

"Oh No! Someone somewhere said something that seems to be ignorant and against all current social correctness that I have been taught. This is an outrage!!
Can't somebody DO something?!?"
 
2012-09-27 09:40:01 AM  

jigger: I know a Muslim who will not eat pork, period. But he'll drink the shiat out of some alcohol. Makes no sense.


The Koran does not explicitly forbid alcohol. It merely warns against the potential dangers of it. Which is actually sage advice when you think about it.

Somehow this has been twisted over the centuries to be a strict prohibition.
 
2012-09-27 09:55:37 AM  

impaler: xria: Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.

But the market system is far from perfect, so businesses that practice bigotry against minorities will more often than not get away with doing it for as long as they care to (unless their behavior becomes widely noticed and disapproved of enough by the majority of their customers enough to actually change their purchasing decisions, but that is pretty rare).

As illustrated by:
[www.local12.com image 280x280]


The market worked just fine. There's no rule that says you get final approval over the market's actions.
 
2012-09-27 10:24:53 AM  
Does manufactured rage taste as good as the real thing?
 
2012-09-27 10:25:00 AM  

bestie1: Quran 33.29


http://www.mquran.org/content/view/3562/4/

This site has a different quote for 33.29. Where did yours come from?
 
2012-09-27 10:29:17 AM  
The owner of the company was quoted as saying that he posted what he did because he believed the original commenter was located in Pakistan.

Alright, assuming for a second that this is a truthful explanation, what difference does that make? The original question did not ask if he would ship it. It didn't ask if products were available elsewhere. It asked if the products had pork products in it. Why does the owner of the company give a d**m where dude gets product from? Maybe he has a relative buy some and ship it. Maybe he drives through the area every now and then and stocks up. Or maybe dude has created his own intergallactic four dimension teleporter which allows him to instantly buy product. The *how* is completely irrelevant to the question asked.

Just answer the question asked, and stop being a condescending putz.

For these reasons, the owner's "explanation" just doesn't fly anyway.
Nice try biggots. For future flavors that fit in with your business model might I suggest "Mein Fatherland Chocolate Crunch" and "KKK Wizard Wonderland Vanilla". Stay away from the Neopolitan, mixing "colors" doesn't mesh well with your business philosophy.
 
2012-09-27 10:31:35 AM  
Ah, yes. And this guy is a CEO. Yeah, where is OWS?
 
2012-09-27 10:37:21 AM  

bestie1: You farking pigs carried of children and castrated them to serve as Janisarries.


Janissaries weren't castrated - castration was for slaves. Janissaries were more like conscripted POWs.
 
2012-09-27 10:38:46 AM  
Ignoring the obvious bigotry, this just smacks of laziness and poor business skills. Even if the person posting was out of the country, though she was not, a smart business man would have realized that there are millions of Americans who don't eat pork by products for whatever reason, whether they are Muslim or Jewish, vegetarian or simply allergic to pork. There are so many products out there that are sold to the general public but still the companies who make them will go out of their way to be kosher in order to get the kosher symbol on their products because they don't want to overlook that potential market.

If these idiots get a big hit in their market, they deserve if only because of their complete lack of professionalism.
 
2012-09-27 10:39:21 AM  

rewind2846: Maybe so... but people believe what they believe. As long as they don't try to force me to believe it, we get along.
If they're Muslim or Jewish, I cook them a burger. If they're Hindu, I put some hot dogs on the grill. Simple.


I disagree entirely. Male genital mutilation and the subjugation of women is horrendous and these people need to be stopped.
 
2012-09-27 10:43:00 AM  

fisker: The problem started with Facebook.

Everything after that is deserved.


From Facebook to Reddit, now to FARK.

It's like multiplying derp by herp, then raising by the power of potato.
 
2012-09-27 10:49:11 AM  

brap: If there is "pork gelatin" in your ice cream I don't need to be Muslim to not want to eat your product.  GAAAAAAAH!
 
*shivers*


Yet bacon ice cream sound delicious.
 
2012-09-27 10:49:46 AM  
Moozlims in Jesusland? It's more likely than you think.
 
2012-09-27 10:50:09 AM  
albertoalemanno.eu
 
2012-09-27 11:08:56 AM  

Mimic_Octopus: MadSkillz: I'm allergic to pork. The question is valid.

no you are not, there is no such thing. you may be allergic to additives or fuels used in cooking.


Pork contains proteins, therefore it is possible to be allergic to it.
 
2012-09-27 11:23:12 AM  

Breathe Laugh Twitch: Mimic_Octopus: MadSkillz: I'm allergic to pork. The question is valid.

no you are not, there is no such thing. you may be allergic to additives or fuels used in cooking.

Pork contains proteins, therefore it is possible to be allergic to it.


More generally, you can be allegric to any substance your body thinks is a threat. This can even be your own tissues, as is the case in many autoimmune diseases.
 
2012-09-27 11:24:35 AM  
The cynic in me imagines that something like this will go over pretty well in Montana... to the point of possibly gaining them more customers than they will lose.
 
2012-09-27 11:30:11 AM  
Ha! He sure showed that darkie! That's how we do it here in America, Ackmed!

9/11!

/farking tool
 
2012-09-27 11:31:17 AM  
Jesus, would it have killed the asshole to just answer the damn question? If he truly doesn't give a crap about Muslims, then what does he have to lose by just saying "yeah, the gelatin contains pork"? F*cking moron...
 
2012-09-27 11:32:17 AM  

Lone Stranger: [albertoalemanno.eu image 450x298]


What...the...fark...
 
2012-09-27 11:34:19 AM  
Someone in rural 'Amurka' is a bigot? Shocking.
 
2012-09-27 11:36:44 AM  
How can you be racist against a religion again?
 
2012-09-27 11:40:14 AM  
Another potential flavor: IEDelicious. Should include pop rocks.
 
2012-09-27 11:43:54 AM  

mekki: Ignoring the obvious bigotry, this just smacks of laziness and poor business skills. Even if the person posting was out of the country, though she was not, a smart business man would have realized that there are millions of Americans who don't eat pork by products for whatever reason, whether they are Muslim or Jewish, vegetarian or simply allergic to pork. There are so many products out there that are sold to the general public but still the companies who make them will go out of their way to be kosher in order to get the kosher symbol on their products because they don't want to overlook that potential market.

If these idiots get a big hit in their market, they deserve if only because of their complete lack of professionalism.


No. Answering questions is against my nondenominational, gender neutral, printed on 100% recycled skin of heathens, invisible holy book. I don't have to answer any questions about products or my business from customers because that would be socialism.

///Business owner made a customer service mistake in a very public forum. Sucks to be him. Was it motivated by bigotry? It's possible. Certainly more possible than the NFL owning up to the shiatburger call their scab refs made against the Packers.

///This threadjack brought to you by the letters G and P. GOOOOO Packers!!!
 
2012-09-27 11:50:30 AM  

Dokushin: Oh, is it time to start dictating what people are allowed to think independently about? Awesome! Is it my turn yet? I say that any snot-nosed brats that think they have the right to try and control what goes on inside people's heads should be forced back through grade school history and spend a little time figuring out why people came over here in the first place.


Doesn't that depend on which group you are talking about "coming over here in the first place"? For example the Puritans came over to ensure they could persecute people, given that they couldn't reform religion in England to their preferences (see Mary Dyer and the Toleration act of 1689 that was imposed on them for examples of how they were able to act once left to themselves). Obviously these views would fit fairly well into some of the more theocratic parts of modern America, so the idea that there was a single reason for all early emigration to what would become the USA is very oversimplified.
 
2012-09-27 11:55:14 AM  
 
2012-09-27 11:57:32 AM  

twomutts: Before we get all excited, it's probably a good idea to actually read the article. I admit I was ready to start screaming, "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!", but then I noticed this little sentence:

The user had an icon next to the name that said "Pakistan" Schaeffer said. Responding quickly, he said he jotted his response down. "I thought he was making this comment from Pakistan," Schaeffer said.

While I admit Schaeffer's apology was pretty dickish, and he could have definitely replied in a better fashion (e.g. "Sorry, I'm not sure about that, I'll have to look into it. I'm flattered by your interest in our product, but FYI, we don't ship to Pakistan"), I do think he made an honest mistake. He just has to learn a bit more about PR and how the intertubes work, that's all.


Pretty much this. But this kind of reasoning doesn't jive with Fark's tendancy to blow shiat out of proportion.
 
2012-09-27 12:02:16 PM  

Tabak: Unlikely as it is, if only for health reasons, what is the point of brining Mr. Sky God into it?


Because, it makes the Sky God meat tender, moist, and the salt makes it taste a lot better, plus it serves as a natural preservative!
 
2012-09-27 12:05:01 PM  
I always suspected Wyoming was a foul den of Wahhabism.
 
2012-09-27 12:07:24 PM  
Geez fricking muslims and liberals crying and making drama when they're stupid beliefs are rightly ridiculed.

/don't need no stinkin preview button
 
2012-09-27 12:08:20 PM  
Sure was easy to favorite someone as "willfully ignorant xenophobe" from this thread.

Really went out of his way to lump 1 billion people into a nice, tiny basket, while giving every Christian a pass. But he's an ATHEIST, of course...
 
2012-09-27 12:24:44 PM  
To be fair, Sheridan, Wyoming is outside of Montana.
 
2012-09-27 12:25:30 PM  
So what else is new?

Link


It's all been said before
 
2012-09-27 12:33:21 PM  

This text is now purple: impaler: xria: Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.

But the market system is far from perfect, so businesses that practice bigotry against minorities will more often than not get away with doing it for as long as they care to (unless their behavior becomes widely noticed and disapproved of enough by the majority of their customers enough to actually change their purchasing decisions, but that is pretty rare).

As illustrated by:
[www.local12.com image 280x280]

The market worked just fine. There's no rule that says you get final approval over the market's actions.


True. My statement was also intended to mention that it's dumb capitalism because you can prevent a large percentage of your sales just from bigotry alone depending on the area and the group you are against. It's weapons grade stupid.
 
2012-09-27 01:05:50 PM  

Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.


Except watch when this dairy becomes the next Chik-fil-a for Montana blogger-patriots.
 
2012-09-27 01:13:24 PM  
Are you trying to tell me there are racists and xenophobes in Montana?!?!?!?



I, for one, am SHOCKED at that accusation.
 
2012-09-27 01:17:53 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: In TFA's sidebar there's a link to an earlier story: a history and profile of the ice cream company.
This is a lot of butthurt over a 100 year-old firm that employs 22 people.
FWIW, the second story says the firm delivers to Cody and Sheridan, Wyoming.


It's good ice cream, I can tell you that much. Maybe the guy assumed the asker was foreign because of his terrible writing and grammar. He's still a dumbass, but I'd discount anyone who asked me a question and addressed me as "U" too.

Tommy Moo: The cynic in me imagines that something like this will go over pretty well in Montana... to the point of possibly gaining them more customers than they will lose.


well, you're not ignorant either, are you? Now I have to challenge you to a duel. Because I live in Montana and that's just how we roll here.

I can assure you that this "controversy" from Reddit will affect the buying habits of about two people who like Wilcoxson's ice cream.
 
2012-09-27 01:27:59 PM  

brigid_fitch: Not only that, why the hell didn't he just answer the question? Would it be that hard to just call your supplier and find out? Nooo, he wasn't being racist (or bigoted, in this case) at all...


He even knew the answer that it's kosher gelatin but decided to be an ass.
 
2012-09-27 01:31:00 PM  
Ice cream isn't mentioned in the Koran which means Muslims aren't permitted to eat it.
This whole thing is ridiculous.
 
2012-09-27 01:48:09 PM  
nmemkha: 1. People ate pigs. Some got weird ailments
2. People who did not eat pigs, did not get sick
3. Wizard, "The aligments are caused by the of goat demons infesting pig's magic skull jello!"
4. Schmuck, "No demons for me, thanks!"
5. King, "You know we should write this pig thing down, but make me a hero or something. Also, add a dragon."


Specious conjecture. There are many more common pathogens that swine-borne parasites that the Bible is silent on. And cultures all around the ancient world ate pig with no problems (surprise, cooking helps!).

And what possible benefit could be gained from avoiding mixing meat and dairy? Should we assume some king was lactose intolerant and said "God said no milk in my stew!"?

It's far more likely that it was either a superstition that got encoded in law, or a way of affirming tribal identity ("we don't eat pigs, those dirty Egyptians do. Also we don't wear blended fabrics, they are an abomination."
 
2012-09-27 01:58:07 PM  
So... is this overly politically correct liberal outrage or overly culturally sensitive muslim outrage?

Also, who the fark puts pork gelatin in ice cream?
 
2012-09-27 02:21:01 PM  

evilboyevil: So... is this overly politically correct liberal outrage or overly culturally sensitive muslim outrage?

Also, who the fark puts pork gelatin in ice cream?


You're an idiot. There's gelatin in lots of stuff. And if it's not pork in the ice cream, its seaweed.
 
2012-09-27 02:27:31 PM  

HailRobonia: nmemkha: 1. People ate pigs. Some got weird ailments
2. People who did not eat pigs, did not get sick
3. Wizard, "The aligments are caused by the of goat demons infesting pig's magic skull jello!"
4. Schmuck, "No demons for me, thanks!"
5. King, "You know we should write this pig thing down, but make me a hero or something. Also, add a dragon."

Specious conjecture. There are many more common pathogens that swine-borne parasites that the Bible is silent on. And cultures all around the ancient world ate pig with no problems (surprise, cooking helps!).

And what possible benefit could be gained from avoiding mixing meat and dairy? Should we assume some king was lactose intolerant and said "God said no milk in my stew!"?

It's far more likely that it was either a superstition that got encoded in law, or a way of affirming tribal identity ("we don't eat pigs, those dirty Egyptians do. Also we don't wear blended fabrics, they are an abomination."


Suspicous conjucture? LOL, mankind used the same process to discover the medicinal properties of numerous plants in pre-history. To deny our ancestors had the wherewithall to conduct such observational science goes against both recorded history and the archological evidence.
 
2012-09-27 03:00:51 PM  
I probably know this person.
 
2012-09-27 03:13:48 PM  

nmemkha: Suspicous conjucture? LOL, mankind used the same process to discover the medicinal properties of numerous plants in pre-history.


And discover the medicinal properties of rhino horn and tiger penis?

No, the food health origins of kosher are just speculation. Link
 
2012-09-27 03:30:23 PM  

bestie1: See the difference because I do. Christians and Jews are of the book. I'm not and under Islam I have to convert or die. I don't even get the option of paying Jizya.



How do you think there are so many Christians in the world today, especially in Africa and Central/South America? It surely wasn't because in the past Christian's came there to spread peace and love...
 
2012-09-27 04:05:34 PM  

HailRobonia: nmemkha: Suspicous conjucture? LOL, mankind used the same process to discover the medicinal properties of numerous plants in pre-history.

And discover the medicinal properties of rhino horn and tiger penis?

No, the food health origins of kosher are just speculation. Link


The dubiousness of Wikipedia aside, the article you linked partially supports my argument:

"There have been attempts to provide empirical support for the view that Jewish food laws have an overarching health benefit or purpose, one of the earliest being from Maimonides in his Guide for the Perplexed. In 1953, David Macht, an Orthodox Jew and proponent of the theory of biblical scientific foresight, conducted toxicity experiments on many kinds of animals and fish.[32] His experiment involved lupin seedlings being supplied with extracts from the meat of various animals; Macht reported that in 100% of cases, extracts from ritually unclean meat inhibited the seedling's growth more than that from ritually clean meats"

Its goes on to say:

"At the same time, these explanations are controversial. Scholar Lester L. Grabbe, writing in the Oxford Bible Commentary on Leviticus, states that "[a]n explanation now almost universally rejected is that the laws in this section [Leviticus 11-15] have hygiene as their basis. Although some of the laws of ritual purity roughly correspond to modern ideas of physical cleanliness, many of them have little to do with hygiene. For example, there is no evidence that the 'unclean' animals are intrinsically bad to eat or to be avoided in a Mediterranean climate, as is sometimes asserted."

To assert with this source that your opinions are based on scientific consenus is misleading at the very least.
 
2012-09-27 05:34:47 PM  
Kinda fun to see the bible pages of "not so happiness" opened up in a hijacked-into "damn that koran anyway" thread - doesn't happen often enough frankly. Having read both (although I'll admit I skipped a few begats out of concern for my eyes and sanity) I'd have to say in my opinion the bible actually contains more incidences of "destroy the unbeliever" by far - assuming one is discounting statements in both books that amount to "and if you're at war/being enslaved/persecuted whatever then kill the farks." That I'm ok enough with, who would not want to fight back under those circumstances? Fair enough.

Most of what IS found in the koran about killing unbelievers involves war/persecution/etc. situations, even even then there are several very clear-cut verses about what happens to those who massacre civilians, children, etc. All conviniently ignored by various groups terrorists and governments that claim to follow islam - yep just like our fundy christians that only follow parts of the bible they like. Most of the serious hate and hellfire coming out of islamic areas is the result of fatwahs, in effect religious commentaries or decisions coming from those (at least supposedly) that are scholars of islam. Unfortunately many in those areas have recognized how handy it is to be able to in effect "create one's own word of god second-hand" and perverted the hell out of this process. They pretty much can make up just about anything and pass it down to a population that is often pretty ignorant of the actual contents of the koran - as many can't even read for themselves and trust imams and other scholars to pass down the word for them. For obvious reasons, this system is pretty ripe for perversion of the original intent, and so has gone the twisting of islam for centuries.

WILL say though, and it is fairly important from what I've been able to determine as far as how modern christianity is supposed to work, the old testament is in effect irrelevant to modern practice other than as a historical document. Paraphrasing, but one of the most definitive statements ever purported to be made by jesus of nazareth was in effect, "Regard the old ways, we will not walk these ways again. For I am the new convenant and that supercedes what has gone before."

In effect, he is recorded as stating flat out, "Ok look all that shiat you used to do, the deal you used to have? No more. I've taken all the sin and evil on myself, just acknowledge me and my father, and follow the ways that I've put forth - and you're cool. No more of that old testament jazz k?"

/Important note. Not a christian, not a muslim, nor a professional bible or koranic researcher - so your mileage/interpretation / bible version may vary ;p

//Why do I bother to read these and learn about it then? I'm interested in people. How the function, act, react, succeed, fail, love, hate, yadda bladda boo. It's quite impossible to truly look into that subject without taking a good hard look at religion, as since the dawn of humanity it's been one of the strongest driving forces we have. For both good and evil - it simply can't be ignored if you want a realistic picture of humanity.

///because sometimes, the more you know - y'know?
 
2012-09-27 05:49:55 PM  

Hack Patooey: CSB: A couple of jobs ago I was the only white American guy working with a half dozen Indian guys, who were ALL devout religiously, strict vegetarians, etc etc. Maybe a month into the project I notice one of them with one of those little premade jello cups. I was torn, but finally said "Er, Ajay, you know what that is made of, right?" "No...." I told him to go do a search. About 5 minutes later he's on the phone with his wife. Apparently he had to do some 10 day purification thing or something.


You were doing the Lord's work, sir. Besides the animal byproducts, everyone knows that Jell-O is really just a front for the Church of Satan with Bill Cosby as the Head Priest...
 
2012-09-27 05:52:39 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Kinda fun to see the bible pages of "not so happiness" opened up in a hijacked-into "damn that koran anyway" thread - doesn't happen often enough frankly. Having read both (although I'll admit I skipped a few begats out of concern for my eyes and sanity) I'd have to say in my opinion the bible actually contains more incidences of "destroy the unbeliever" by far - assuming one is discounting statements in both books that amount to "and if you're at war/being enslaved/persecuted whatever then kill the farks." That I'm ok enough with, who would not want to fight back under those circumstances? Fair enough.

Most of what IS found in the koran about killing unbelievers involves war/persecution/etc. situations, even even then there are several very clear-cut verses about what happens to those who massacre civilians, children, etc. All conviniently ignored by various groups terrorists and governments that claim to follow islam - yep just like our fundy christians that only follow parts of the bible they like. Most of the serious hate and hellfire coming out of islamic areas is the result of fatwahs, in effect religious commentaries or decisions coming from those (at least supposedly) that are scholars of islam. Unfortunately many in those areas have recognized how handy it is to be able to in effect "create one's own word of god second-hand" and perverted the hell out of this process. They pretty much can make up just about anything and pass it down to a population that is often pretty ignorant of the actual contents of the koran - as many can't even read for themselves and trust imams and other scholars to pass down the word for them. For obvious reasons, this system is pretty ripe for perversion of the original intent, and so has gone the twisting of islam for centuries.

WILL say though, and it is fairly important from what I've been able to determine as far as how modern christianity is supposed to work, the old testament is in effect irrelevant to modern practi ...


I agree Judiasm has its "slaughter the babes moments", but Christanity is about the New Testament, not the old. I doubt you will much "destroy the unbeliever" in the teachings of Christ. We can argue all days about semantics of Jesus fulfilling the law and what not, but at the end of the day He preached nothing but non-violence, tolerance, and love for your enemies. Its a shame so many of His so-called followers act like hypocritical asshats most of the time.
 
2012-09-27 06:04:22 PM  
So, Wilcoxson's pulled their facebook page???

Can't seem to locate it.
 
2012-09-27 06:09:59 PM  

HailRobonia: nmemkha: Easy tiger, I was merely pointing out the abstaining from pork is wise in world without modern sanitation and food handling practices. Why its was the one of dietary laws of Abhamanic religions is debatable. Before the advent of science, a lot of "good advice" (observational wisdom) about life got coded into religious dogmas. The ancient Egyptians did it all the time.

The food hygiene link to pork prohibitions in the Bible is tenuous at best.


If there is a practical basis for it, it is more likely that domesticated swine are an environmental disaster in an arid setting. Need lotsa water, eat plants down to the taproots, root up and expose soil to erosion - not helpful when you're trying to scratch a a living out of a near-desert.
 
2012-09-27 06:53:08 PM  

bestie1: Give me a farking break if you add up every abortion doctor murder it's still less than 1 west bank school bus bombing. I'm not defending Christian radicals but all your doing is spinning. Why are you so dead set on defending the indefensible? Especially when the people your defending would like me if I converted and hate you. Muslim's love conservatives. I could pretend to be everything I am sure you think I am and own your shiat.

fark your Uganda. The Christian angle is a PR game. They site the 10 commandments and talk about maiming people. They aren't using your passages to justify themselves they just think they are making time for themselves by pretending to be Christian.


Here I go again. Look I have lived in a large American city where there are many Muslims and none of them are running around ululating, exploding or trying to convert at the end of a scimitar. There are lots of moderate Muslims. I'm more worried about Christian theocrats in this country, personally.

\atheist
 
2012-09-27 08:28:10 PM  

nmemkha: but Christanity is about the New Testament, not the old



No, it's not. That's just a convenient excuse Christians say to get out of following anything in it.
 
2012-09-27 08:46:15 PM  

intelligent comment below: nmemkha: but Christanity is about the New Testament, not the old


No, it's not. That's just a convenient excuse Christians say to get out of following anything in it.


emotibot.net 

Don't you have ridiciouls judgements to pass about people you don't know and outlandish and stupid assumptions to make that ascribe them beliefs they actually don't hold in a vain attempt justify your idiotic vitrol?
 
2012-09-27 08:49:11 PM  

nmemkha: Don't you have ridiciouls judgements to pass about people you don't know and outlandish and stupid assumptions to make that ascribe them beliefs they actually don't hold in a vain attempt justify your idiotic vitrol?



You mad bro? Instead of ever debating what I say, you're just going to cry like a little girl when I point out the truth. Yeah it was outlandish and stupid to call a spade a spade. Anti-Semite. *ignored*
 
2012-09-27 08:59:05 PM  

intelligent comment below: nmemkha: Don't you have ridiciouls judgements to pass about people you don't know and outlandish and stupid assumptions to make that ascribe them beliefs they actually don't hold in a vain attempt justify your idiotic vitrol?


You mad bro? Instead of ever debating what I say, you're just going to cry like a little girl when I point out the truth. Yeah it was outlandish and stupid to call a spade a spade. Anti-Semite. *ignored*


Thank God, now I don't have listen to morinc assusations. It must be hard living is such a hateful world. Pro-Tip: why don't you take a good look at yourself instead of attempting project your failures onto others?
 
2012-09-27 09:02:06 PM  
"We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan." Bonus: customer is from Sheridan, Wyoming.

So they do not deliver to Wyoming either. OK, fine.

But he could have just answered the question instead of being a dick.
 
2012-09-27 09:02:45 PM  

nmemkha: HailRobonia: nmemkha: 1. People ate pigs. Some got weird ailments
2. People who did not eat pigs, did not get sick
3. Wizard, "The aligments are caused by the of goat demons infesting pig's magic skull jello!"
4. Schmuck, "No demons for me, thanks!"
5. King, "You know we should write this pig thing down, but make me a hero or something. Also, add a dragon."

Specious conjecture. There are many more common pathogens that swine-borne parasites that the Bible is silent on. And cultures all around the ancient world ate pig with no problems (surprise, cooking helps!).

And what possible benefit could be gained from avoiding mixing meat and dairy? Should we assume some king was lactose intolerant and said "God said no milk in my stew!"?

It's far more likely that it was either a superstition that got encoded in law, or a way of affirming tribal identity ("we don't eat pigs, those dirty Egyptians do. Also we don't wear blended fabrics, they are an abomination."

Suspicous conjucture? LOL, mankind used the same process to discover the medicinal properties of numerous plants in pre-history. To deny our ancestors had the wherewithall to conduct such observational science goes against both recorded history and the archological evidence.


I remember learning from an Anglican priest in my primary school religious education that the physical effects of humans ingesting the parasites which exist/ed in pigs are that you feel like your body is burning up. He reckoned this is the specific reason why this was regarded as demonic possession or a similar event by the ancient Jews. He also said a lot of other stuff I've learned over the rest of my education was pretty wrong, so not sure if this little factoid is accurate, but it's probably worth further research among those who are interested in this topic.
 
2012-09-27 09:08:31 PM  

nmemkha: I agree Judiasm has its "slaughter the babes moments", but Christanity is about the New Testament, not the old. I doubt you will much "destroy the unbeliever" in the teachings of Christ. We can argue all days about semantics of Jesus fulfilling the law and what not, but at the end of the day He preached nothing but non-violence, tolerance, and love for your enemies. Its a shame so many of His so-called followers act like hypocritical asshats most of the time.


Especially that Asshat Paul who is credited with writing 1/4 of the New Testament, cos he missed the memo about tolerance and love. Oh, and there are some things in Revelations that are a bit fire and brim stoney. Still if you get a message of peace and love, stick to that.

Religious questions aside, I think they should just tell us what's in the ice cream.
 
2012-09-27 09:17:05 PM  

Aunt Crabby: nmemkha: I agree Judiasm has its "slaughter the babes moments", but Christanity is about the New Testament, not the old. I doubt you will much "destroy the unbeliever" in the teachings of Christ. We can argue all days about semantics of Jesus fulfilling the law and what not, but at the end of the day He preached nothing but non-violence, tolerance, and love for your enemies. Its a shame so many of His so-called followers act like hypocritical asshats most of the time.

Especially that Asshat Paul who is credited with writing 1/4 of the New Testament, cos he missed the memo about tolerance and love. Oh, and there are some things in Revelations that are a bit fire and brim stoney. Still if you get a message of peace and love, stick to that.

Religious questions aside, I think they should just tell us what's in the ice cream.


Personally, I stick to the actual words of Jesus. What Peter, Paul, and Mary decided to do with His words is their business. Its not my place to judge.

This whole situtation and resulting silly thread is so much to do about nothing. If we just treated each other with love, respect, and compassion we would all live in peace.
 
2012-09-27 09:31:38 PM  

nmemkha:

This whole situation and resulting silly thread is so much to do about nothing. If we just treated each other with love, respect, and compassion we would all live in peace.


True, but now I want to know what's in the ice cream. It's not a religious issue for me--I just like knowing, even if it will gross me out.

/Theoretically in support of peace, love and understanding
//Actually in support of yummy ice cream with an accurate ingredients list
 
2012-09-27 10:02:45 PM  
Are muslims just a bunch of cry-babies?

I'll tell you what, though, this whole "free speech" versus "offending dead-ass Mohammed" thing might turn ugly on a bigger scale.

These people have way too much time on their hands if they are getting worked up over a film.

Why aren't they getting excited about fighting hunger in africa? Why aren't they getting bent out of shape over the human rights violations being committed by their own Imams and governments?
Are all muslims retarded or do they just put the retards on the TV?
 
2012-09-27 10:04:19 PM  
Oh, and one more thing, for killing Van Gogh in the middle of the farking street,

Mohammed screws dead cows.
 
2012-09-27 10:08:53 PM  

Aunt Crabby: nmemkha:

This whole situation and resulting silly thread is so much to do about nothing. If we just treated each other with love, respect, and compassion we would all live in peace.

True, but now I want to know what's in the ice cream. It's not a religious issue for me--I just like knowing, even if it will gross me out.

/Theoretically in support of peace, love and understanding
//Actually in support of yummy ice cream with an accurate ingredients list


In any case, good luck on your quest to obtain actual relevant information in the sea of hyperbole and fallacy that is Fark.
 
2012-09-27 10:13:15 PM  

thrgd456: These people have way too much time on their hands if they are getting worked up over a film


There is a film of them making ice cream? Does it show how they made the gelatin?

/The Jungle is nothing compared to The Jello
//Wasn't Van Gogh killed by Daleks?
 
2012-09-28 12:14:38 AM  

Makh: Bigotry and capitalism don't mix. It's fundamentally stupid to hate your potential customers for superficial reasons.


Not if your hate either 1) is against a minority or 2) by hating your target, you gain customers and ensure better customer loyalty from those you already serve. Hate is a wonderful tool for capitalism, if used effectively. It helps to define a marketplace by manipulating in-group identities.
 
2012-09-28 02:10:02 AM  

Gig103: brigid_fitch: Not only that, why the hell didn't he just answer the question? Would it be that hard to just call your supplier and find out? Nooo, he wasn't being racist (or bigoted, in this case) at all...

He even knew the answer that it's kosher gelatin but decided to be an ass.


Seriously. If he wants to value being a racist asshat over being a good businessman, he has every right to. People just won't buy his products.
 
2012-09-28 03:33:37 AM  
"You can keep hating and spewing more hatred, or you can get over it and get out there and travel and learn about countries, cultures, religions and beliefs the world over before coming up with and propagating your pigeon-holed perceptions."

Hooked, reeled in, cleaned and gutted.

/feel better about yourself Sparky?
//I mean, it's pretty clear your only intent was to display what a self-righteous asshole you are.
///mission accomplished.
 
2012-09-28 03:58:43 AM  

sorhed: jigger: I know a Muslim who will not eat pork, period. But he'll drink the shiat out of some alcohol. Makes no sense.

The Koran does not explicitly forbid alcohol. It merely warns against the potential dangers of it. Which is actually sage advice when you think about it.

Somehow this has been twisted over the centuries to be a strict prohibition.


Some more liberal muslims believes that it's not alcohol that is forbidden, but getting drunk, or anything that impairs your judgement.

Fun (and kinda ironic) trivia : "alcohol" comes from the Arabic for Kohl, the ancient black eyeliner. So, basically, Al Kohl is that which makes girls pretty.
 
2012-09-28 07:22:30 AM  

nmemkha: Personally, I stick to the actual words of Jesus. What Peter, Paul, and Mary decided to do with His words is their business. Its not my place to judge.


upload.wikimedia.org

Yeah, but I can never forgive them for "Puff the Magic Dragon"...
 
2012-09-28 08:28:50 AM  

RobSeace: nmemkha: Personally, I stick to the actual words of Jesus. What Peter, Paul, and Mary decided to do with His words is their business. Its not my place to judge.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 589x762]

Yeah, but I can never forgive them for "Puff the Magic Dragon"...


Finally someone gets one of my references.
 
2012-09-28 07:21:00 PM  

nmemkha: RobSeace: nmemkha: Personally, I stick to the actual words of Jesus. What Peter, Paul, and Mary decided to do with His words is their business. Its not my place to judge.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 589x762]

Yeah, but I can never forgive them for "Puff the Magic Dragon"...

Finally someone gets one of my references.


Oh, plenty of us got the reference. We just didn't think that it was all that clever.
 
2012-09-28 07:42:49 PM  

lumiere: padraig: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What happens if a Muslim unknowingly consumes pork? Do they burst into flames like a vampire?

You cannot KNOWINGLY eat pork. and you are excused if you are forced, or this is a choice betweeen that or dying. Otherwise, you are fine.

That's why the fantasies about pork bullets, burying muslims in bacon, forcing them to eat pork sandwich to condemn them to hell, etc.. are all bullshiat.

The chopped beef at Rudy's BBQ isn't really beef, it's a combination of all their meats, including pork sausage. I have several Jewish and Muslim friends who refused to raise hell and better yet, refused to boycott Rudy's based on this. They simply continued to frequent Rudy's and stuck to the chicken and other "kosher*/halal*" items. The ignorant minority make more noise than the collective, silent majority.

*That's still debatable


Aren't all Rudy's a little different due to different ownership? Mmmmmmmmmmm moist brisket.
 
2012-09-28 09:15:08 PM  
People like Mitt Romney would have us believe this CEO is one of our "betters", a job creator -one of whom the "little people" expect to trickle down the wealth.

It goes to show that people of high stature and affluence are not any more intelligent than those whose labor they profit from.
 
2012-09-28 10:27:02 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: nmemkha: RobSeace: nmemkha: Personally, I stick to the actual words of Jesus. What Peter, Paul, and Mary decided to do with His words is their business. Its not my place to judge.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 589x762]

Yeah, but I can never forgive them for "Puff the Magic Dragon"...

Finally someone gets one of my references.

Oh, plenty of us got the reference. We just didn't think that it was all that clever.


upload.wikimedia.org

I love how you think you speak for everyone.
 
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