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(The Columbian)   Parents of autistic son upset at new highway off ramp being built in their backyard. State of WA tells them if they don't like it, they can simply move. With pic of their new "backyard"   (columbian.com) divider line 355
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2012-09-26 03:51:43 PM  
FTA: The Dodges considered selling their house so they could afford to buy a house in a quieter area. But when housing values tanked, they found themselves $55,000 underwater on their mortgage. They owe about $128,000, and its value is only $73,000. With the offramp so close, they don't believe they can rent their house, either.

Yes, yes its all the fault of the big bad government... The crux is your house is super underwater and you are using an autistic child as an excuse. Just walk away from it and be done - it will spike your credit for a few years, but you'll be paying for many, many, many years before you ever get right-sided on the situation as is... So, short-term credit hit for a couple years (probably 2 or 3 tops), and you're free and clear.

/ Jesus people are farking retarded - simple business problem.
 
2012-09-26 04:03:44 PM  
Melissa Dodge contacted WSDOT well in advance of construction about the proposed offramp and how profoundly the noise had affected Dylan. Officials asked for testimony from one of Dylan's doctors and temporarily moved the family during construction. They agreed to pay to move the family to a rental house, pay rent and utilities through November 2012, when they expected the noisiest part of construction to be finished, and pay to move them back to their old house.

Honestly, it sounds like we've already given these folks enough of our tax dollars. Yeah, it's bad when government does something you don't like, but if we took a public opinion poll of everyone in the neighborhood of whether or not they like the off-ramp, I have a feel most people would be in favor (more convenient travel, and this would actually increase home values in the area overall). That's democracy in action. The DOT has already been more than fair by offering to relocate the family during construction.

Btw, this article makes it sound like the government tore a hole in clean virgin wilderness... umm no... look at the maps. The highway was there the whole time, the ramp just clears an extra lane's worth of woods (typically 15-20 feet).

Default and walk away. It will kill their credit for a few years, but it will save them oodles in the long run.
 
2012-09-26 04:10:03 PM  
CSB: When I was house-hunting in 1999, I found the PERFECT house in a decent neighborhood. 4 bedrooms, huge fenced-in yard, 2-car garage, new kitchen, and a 2-yo deck. The only downside was that, on the other side of a strip of trees, was a fairly busy 2-lane highway. Went to the town planning office to see what, if any, future plans were in store of that strip of trees. Found that they were planning to expand the highway to 4 lanes & put a jug-handle right in front of the house we were looking at. Told the real estate agent to keep looking & she sold it within a week or so. The highway & jug-handle were finished 3 years later.

I drive by that house almost every day (it's on a highway that's practically the only route to towns south of me). The jug-handle is maybe 2 feet from their front gate. They have to keep their curtains closed on their gorgeous front bay window because anyone driving by can see right into their house. And there's no sound wall to block all the noise from a 4-lane highway. It's gotta suck.

/Found a bigger house in a better neighborhood, about $50K cheaper, so it all worked out.
//Just need to put up with a few renters during the summer. Adds entertainment value.
 
2012-09-26 04:16:28 PM  

Nofun: Btw, this article makes it sound like the government tore a hole in clean virgin wilderness... umm no... look at the maps. The highway was there the whole time, the ramp just clears an extra lane's worth of woods (typically 15-20 feet).


This is the crux of it for me. It's distasteful that they're using their kid as an excuse to biatch.
 
2012-09-26 04:17:12 PM  
Clicked the article expecting to call them whiny baby-pants people, but damn:

columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com

"Autistic" or not...That's a pretty asshole thing to do to people.
 
2012-09-26 04:22:11 PM  

MaxxLarge: Clicked the article expecting to call them whiny baby-pants people, but damn:

[columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 600x352]

"Autistic" or not...That's a pretty asshole thing to do to people.


that yard is large by the standards of many densely populated cities, and the expansion plans were probably on file long before they decided to implement them. it is the people's own damn fault for not doing 10 minutes of investigation and 5 minutes of thinking about the implications of the highway right of way abutting their property.
 
2012-09-26 04:25:23 PM  
Sheesh... you already lived with a highway one lane from your yard... is this really that much worse?
 
2012-09-26 04:26:20 PM  

Kazan: MaxxLarge: Clicked the article expecting to call them whiny baby-pants people, but damn:

[columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 600x352]

"Autistic" or not...That's a pretty asshole thing to do to people.

that yard is large by the standards of many densely populated cities, and the expansion plans were probably on file long before they decided to implement them. it is the people's own damn fault for not doing 10 minutes of investigation and 5 minutes of thinking about the implications of the highway right of way abutting their property.


Ya know, I suddenly have a hankering to reread Hitchhiker's Guide...
 
2012-09-26 04:27:20 PM  
When you live right next to a freeway, separated only by a strip of land owned by the department of transportation, these things happen.

/Went on a walk the other day on a very nice trail that goes under this new junction. The project looks very well done.
 
2012-09-26 04:31:02 PM  

downstairs: Sheesh... you already lived with a highway one lane from your yard... is this really that much worse?


`They're using it all as an excuse to try to get out of a house with a mortgage under water.

It's not like it was a sudden surprise highway....

Thank GOD They have a kid they can try to exploit....
 
2012-09-26 04:33:13 PM  

croesius: Kazan: MaxxLarge: Clicked the article expecting to call them whiny baby-pants people, but damn:

[columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 600x352]

"Autistic" or not...That's a pretty asshole thing to do to people.

that yard is large by the standards of many densely populated cities, and the expansion plans were probably on file long before they decided to implement them. it is the people's own damn fault for not doing 10 minutes of investigation and 5 minutes of thinking about the implications of the highway right of way abutting their property.

Ya know, I suddenly have a hankering to reread Hitchhiker's Guide...


I bet there wasn't even a leopard.
 
2012-09-26 04:36:58 PM  

MaxxLarge: Clicked the article expecting to call them whiny baby-pants people, but damn:

[columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 600x352]

"Autistic" or not...That's a pretty asshole thing to do to people.



I'm thinking they can claim a "taking" here, and might be able to sue for compensation, but frankly I think it sucks that they got screwed over.  I doubt they have much of a case other than complain and hope for a nuisance payment that makes it possible to upgrade.
 
2012-09-26 04:38:07 PM  
i have a feeling they are going to get a truck crash through their house eventually that close to the highway.
 
2012-09-26 04:38:33 PM  

MaxxLarge: Clicked the article expecting to call them whiny baby-pants people, but damn:

[columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 600x352]

"Autistic" or not...That's a pretty asshole thing to do to people.


One one hand, There was probably a lot more planning that went into the off ramp and long before they had their little spurtling shoot out than they put into having a little sex trophy.
On the other hand, that is an acute angle in the back yard, and autistic people HATE those angles.
They like a round room as opposed to a square one.
So, dickish move unless the papers where filed somewhere public. . . you know how that goes.
When I split from the ex, I put a legal notice in the paper saying :As of midnight tonight, vudukungfu dont' know nothing about any money owed by the ex-mres. vudukungfu.
 
2012-09-26 04:41:09 PM  

croesius: Kazan: MaxxLarge: Clicked the article expecting to call them whiny baby-pants people, but damn:

[columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 600x352]

"Autistic" or not...That's a pretty asshole thing to do to people.

that yard is large by the standards of many densely populated cities, and the expansion plans were probably on file long before they decided to implement them. it is the people's own damn fault for not doing 10 minutes of investigation and 5 minutes of thinking about the implications of the highway right of way abutting their property.

Ya know, I suddenly have a hankering to reread Hitchhiker's Guide...


yeah except in this case their property isn't being destroyed, and the records office was easily accessible, and the government did a lot more than they needed to accommodate them.
 
2012-09-26 04:44:42 PM  
Maybe check with the city planning department before you buy your next house, retards.
 
2012-09-26 04:47:27 PM  

Elzar: Just walk away from it and be done - it will spike your credit for a few years, but you'll be paying for many, many, many years before you ever get right-sided on the situation as is... So, short-term credit hit for a couple years (probably 2 or 3 tops), and you're free and clear.


Nofun: Default and walk away. It will kill their credit for a few years, but it will save them oodles in the long run.


See, this right here is why it is a bad idea to come to Fark for legal advice.

This is a terrible, terrible idea. Listen to these people at your peril.

You don't just "walk away" from a house that is under water. According to tfa, they owe $128,000 on a house worth $73,000. Let's assume they let the bank take the house, and assume a best case scenario where the bank recoups the market value of the property at an auction. That means the bank will be out $55,000, and that's not including thousands of dollars the bank would have to spend on lawyers and fees to get rid of the place.

So what do you all suppose the bank does when they take that kind of a hit? Say "oh well" and suck it up? No, they come after you for it.

When you are sitting in your new house several years later, thinking this is all behind you, there will be a knock on your door from a sheriff, who will hand you papers for a 5 or 6 figure lawsuit for the deficiency.
 
2012-09-26 04:51:33 PM  

gilgigamesh: When you are sitting in your new house several years later, thinking this is all behind you, there will be a knock on your door from a sheriff, who will hand you papers for a 5 or 6 figure lawsuit for the deficiency.


"Hold it right there. You men from the bank?"
"You Wash's boy?"
"Yessir and Daddy told me I'm to shoot whoever's from the bank.
" "Well, we ain't from the bank young feller."
"Yessir, I'm also s'posed to shoot folks serving papers."
"We ain't got no papers neither."
"I nicked the census man."
"Now there's a good boy."
 
2012-09-26 04:56:29 PM  

gilgigamesh: Elzar: Just walk away from it and be done - it will spike your credit for a few years, but you'll be paying for many, many, many years before you ever get right-sided on the situation as is... So, short-term credit hit for a couple years (probably 2 or 3 tops), and you're free and clear.

Nofun: Default and walk away. It will kill their credit for a few years, but it will save them oodles in the long run.

See, this right here is why it is a bad idea to come to Fark for legal advice.

This is a terrible, terrible idea. Listen to these people at your peril.

You don't just "walk away" from a house that is under water. According to tfa, they owe $128,000 on a house worth $73,000. Let's assume they let the bank take the house, and assume a best case scenario where the bank recoups the market value of the property at an auction. That means the bank will be out $55,000, and that's not including thousands of dollars the bank would have to spend on lawyers and fees to get rid of the place.

So what do you all suppose the bank does when they take that kind of a hit? Say "oh well" and suck it up? No, they come after you for it.

When you are sitting in your new house several years later, thinking this is all behind you, there will be a knock on your door from a sheriff, who will hand you papers for a 5 or 6 figure lawsuit for the deficiency.


Chapter 7 and walk away - how difficult is that? There's nothing the bank can do about it - your obligations are released in the Ch 7 - the bank is right and truly farked.
 
2012-09-26 05:00:51 PM  

Kazan: MaxxLarge: Clicked the article expecting to call them whiny baby-pants people, but damn:

[columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 600x352]

"Autistic" or not...That's a pretty asshole thing to do to people.

that yard is large by the standards of many densely populated cities, and the expansion plans were probably on file long before they decided to implement them. it is the people's own damn fault for not doing 10 minutes of investigation and 5 minutes of thinking about the implications of the highway right of way abutting their property.


You're not planning on reading any poetry to us are you?
/O my turlingdomes.
 
2012-09-26 05:05:30 PM  
Highway offramps, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll.
Highway offramps, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll.
Highway offramps, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll.
 
2012-09-26 05:08:15 PM  

Elzar: Chapter 7 and walk away - how difficult is that? There's nothing the bank can do about it - your obligations are released in the Ch 7 - the bank is right and truly farked.


Well, you didn't say that, did you?

But now that you've moved those goalposts way over there, the answer is "pretty difficult", especially if you don't meet the hurdle of the means test the banks managed to get through congress a few years back.
 
2012-09-26 05:13:04 PM  

Elzar: Yes, yes its all the fault of the big bad government... The crux is your house is super underwater and you are using an autistic child as an excuse


Did it ever occur to you the house may not have been underwater before the onramp was built, and they were unable to sell it due to the offramp construction?
 
2012-09-26 05:14:30 PM  

GAT_00: Elzar: Yes, yes its all the fault of the big bad government... The crux is your house is super underwater and you are using an autistic child as an excuse

Did it ever occur to you the house may not have been underwater before the onramp was built, and they were unable to sell it due to the offramp construction?


did it ever occur to you that the probability of this being the case is somewhere between 1:1000000000 and zero?
 
2012-09-26 05:20:47 PM  

Kazan: GAT_00: Elzar: Yes, yes its all the fault of the big bad government... The crux is your house is super underwater and you are using an autistic child as an excuse

Did it ever occur to you the house may not have been underwater before the onramp was built, and they were unable to sell it due to the offramp construction?

did it ever occur to you that the probability of this being the case is somewhere between 1:1000000000 and zero?


i575.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-26 05:34:25 PM  
Wow GAT, you're so cool.. you put me on ignore because I disagreed with you. What to continue to be such a shining example of liberalism

as a liberal, you embarrass me you ignorant echo-chamber loving coont.
 
2012-09-26 05:35:34 PM  
someone quote that so mr echo chamber sees it
 
2012-09-26 05:38:46 PM  

Kazan: Wow GAT, you're so cool.. you put me on ignore because I disagreed with you. What to continue to be such a shining example of liberalism

as a liberal, you embarrass me you ignorant echo-chamber loving coont.


You're not on ignore. You're just an ignorant tool.
 
2012-09-26 05:45:08 PM  
Gotta go with the family on this one. DOT should have bought them out.
 
2012-09-26 05:46:25 PM  

GAT_00: Kazan: Wow GAT, you're so cool.. you put me on ignore because I disagreed with you. What to continue to be such a shining example of liberalism

as a liberal, you embarrass me you ignorant echo-chamber loving coont.

You're not on ignore. You're just an ignorant tool.


yeah, because thinking the loss of valuation is much more likely to be related to the economic conditions of the last 5 years is a "ignorant tool"ery, amiright?

i mean it must OBVIOUSLY have to do with the road moving closer ... totally. i mean who would want a house right by a major road that would quickly take them to work? sure it would turn off some buyers, but it would appeal to different set.

assuming the road is the source of the value change, given the last 5 years in the housing market, is like assuming there is a snowball on the surface of the sun (that doesn't instantly vaporize)
 
2012-09-26 05:51:07 PM  

Kazan: GAT_00: Kazan: Wow GAT, you're so cool.. you put me on ignore because I disagreed with you. What to continue to be such a shining example of liberalism

as a liberal, you embarrass me you ignorant echo-chamber loving coont.

You're not on ignore. You're just an ignorant tool.

yeah, because thinking the loss of valuation is much more likely to be related to the economic conditions of the last 5 years is a "ignorant tool"ery, amiright?

i mean it must OBVIOUSLY have to do with the road moving closer ... totally. i mean who would want a house right by a major road that would quickly take them to work? sure it would turn off some buyers, but it would appeal to different set.

assuming the road is the source of the value change, given the last 5 years in the housing market, is like assuming there is a snowball on the surface of the sun (that doesn't instantly vaporize)


Nothing you've yet to say has disproved my view of you as an ignorant tool. You're ignorant to simply assume how everything had to happen without any evidence, and you're a tool for obvious reasons.
 
2012-09-26 05:55:17 PM  

Aarontology: gilgigamesh: When you are sitting in your new house several years later, thinking this is all behind you, there will be a knock on your door from a sheriff, who will hand you papers for a 5 or 6 figure lawsuit for the deficiency.

"Hold it right there. You men from the bank?"
"You Wash's boy?"
"Yessir and Daddy told me I'm to shoot whoever's from the bank.
" "Well, we ain't from the bank young feller."
"Yessir, I'm also s'posed to shoot folks serving papers."
"We ain't got no papers neither."
"I nicked the census man."
"Now there's a good boy."


We're in a tight spot!
 
2012-09-26 06:03:09 PM  
Tell me more about this "backyard" you speak of that was stolen.
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2012-09-26 06:06:19 PM  

obeymatt: Tell me more about this "backyard" you speak of that was stolen.
[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 198x254]


Came here to say pretty much the same.

/NIMBY-itis vs. Manifest Destiny
 
2012-09-26 06:11:49 PM  
Feels their pain

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-09-26 06:12:04 PM  

I_C_Weener: I'm thinking they can claim a "taking" here, and might be able to sue for compensation, but frankly I think it sucks that they got screwed over. I doubt they have much of a case other than complain and hope for a nuisance payment that makes it possible to upgrade.


I think you're in the wrong place - you're supposed to be angry at these people for feeling entitled to not having a highway in their backyard. I mean, it's worse in third world countries, so they shouldn't complain. And besides, who wouldn't want to live close to a major thoroughfare? It's all just a scam to get rid of their house. I'm just surprised we haven't gotten any "Autism is fake, they just need to beat some sense into their worthless crotcfruit" posts yet.
 
2012-09-26 06:15:50 PM  
Cry me a river. A- I did not know autistic kids smiled that big.
B- I have seen closer to home / apartments on and offramps in many areas of los angeles and those folks, well, some of them, have nice homes / flats
c- I think they should have at least built a wall. Who puts up a vinyl fence that close to a damn highway ?
 
2012-09-26 06:18:13 PM  
Autism is a made up disease anyway.
 
2012-09-26 06:30:24 PM  

GAT_00: Nothing you've yet to say has disproved my view of you as an ignorant tool. You're ignorant to simply assume how everything had to happen without any evidence, and you're a tool for obvious reasons.


i'm ignorant because you're saying i did something i didn't do. i don't see anywhere where i assume anything about how anything happened - i've spoken in terms of likelihood. I found the scenario you asserted to be likely to be unlikely, and then proposed an alternative more likely scenario.

and the obvious reason I'm a tool is I had to audacity to point out an error in one of your dumb ass posts.

Dude you realize you are the farking walking caricature of the ignorant outraged liberal that conservatives pretend that we all are? you're an embarrassment. shut your farking mouth and let the adults do the talking in politics threads, troll.
 
2012-09-26 06:31:22 PM  

fusillade762: Autism is a made up disease anyway.


not sure if troll, or just jackass.
 
2012-09-26 06:38:31 PM  

give me doughnuts: croesius: Kazan: MaxxLarge: Clicked the article expecting to call them whiny baby-pants people, but damn:

[columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 600x352]

"Autistic" or not...That's a pretty asshole thing to do to people.

that yard is large by the standards of many densely populated cities, and the expansion plans were probably on file long before they decided to implement them. it is the people's own damn fault for not doing 10 minutes of investigation and 5 minutes of thinking about the implications of the highway right of way abutting their property.

Ya know, I suddenly have a hankering to reread Hitchhiker's Guide...

I bet there wasn't even a leopard.


Well, I see I'm not needed here.
 
2012-09-26 06:38:39 PM  
is this what she looks like?

media.10news.com
 
2012-09-26 06:38:42 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-26 06:39:38 PM  
Highway Planner: "That little bastard had to be autistic..."
 
2012-09-26 06:39:38 PM  

fusillade762: Autism is a made up disease anyway.


Unfortunately your stupidity is all too real.
 
2012-09-26 06:41:06 PM  
Dylan is autistic. Loud, constant noise causes Dylan to "act out" said his mother, Melissa Dodge.

Well, maybe now is a good time to start teaching your precious autistic snowflake how NOT TO ACT OUT, Mrs. "Change the world for my son's needs".

He's going to have to grow up in this world, and he better start learning how to function in it; or did you think you were going to be able to tailor the planet to accommodate his little whims?

Autistic doesn't mean "gets his way all the time" and if that's what you're teaching him, no wonder he "acts out." YOU'RE NOT TEACHING HIM NOT TO.
 
2012-09-26 06:41:20 PM  

vudukungfu: On the other hand, that is an acute angle in the back yard, and autistic people HATE those angles.


Not to mention a biatch to mow. Well, if they had grass, I mean.
 
2012-09-26 06:42:37 PM  

Kazan: fusillade762: Autism is a made up disease anyway.

not sure if troll, or just jackass.


He just hasnt got his jenny mccartney vaccine yet....
 
2012-09-26 06:43:40 PM  
perhaps Dad should have kept mum, arranged a little sumthin-sumthin with a good friend or trusted BIL and took the family to Dizzy Land. ring ring goes the phone - what's that? gas leak explosion? fire? house went sky high? ain't that a biatch! Honey! call the Insurance Co! we have to go pick up a check.

/looks like we have to find a new place to live, kids
 
2012-09-26 06:44:07 PM  

Krieghund: give me doughnuts: croesius: Kazan: MaxxLarge: Clicked the article expecting to call them whiny baby-pants people, but damn:

[columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 600x352]

"Autistic" or not...That's a pretty asshole thing to do to people.

that yard is large by the standards of many densely populated cities, and the expansion plans were probably on file long before they decided to implement them. it is the people's own damn fault for not doing 10 minutes of investigation and 5 minutes of thinking about the implications of the highway right of way abutting their property.

Ya know, I suddenly have a hankering to reread Hitchhiker's Guide...

I bet there wasn't even a leopard.

Well, I see I'm not needed here.


Dont forget your towel an vogon poetry lesson before you leave...
 
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