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2012-09-26 11:30:54 AM
Readers Digest version: the latest polls show Romney losing by double digit margins in all the key battleground States and it's late September and his campaign is in "Everybody panic!" damage control mode.
 
2012-09-26 11:46:43 AM
Those don't all add up to 100.
 
2012-09-26 11:47:29 AM
Thank you for the dumbed down version.
Reading the headline made bits of my brain leak out of my ears.

But, I'm used to that. I post in the politics tab.
 
2012-09-26 11:48:00 AM
The debates are going to be so sweet. I wonder if Romney will break out in flopsweat or if the fact that he's richer than Croesus will cushion the blow.
 
2012-09-26 11:48:19 AM
I wonder if Romney's thought about rebooting his campaign...
 
2012-09-26 11:48:24 AM
Now, I thought this was going to be about the fiscal cliff and the Bush Tax Cut/Obama extension expiring and taxes going up in 2013.
 
2012-09-26 11:48:41 AM
At this point I think Romney will even vote for Obama.
 
2012-09-26 11:49:44 AM
I was told there would be no math.
 
2012-09-26 11:51:02 AM

Mercutio74: I wonder if Romney's thought about rebooting his campaign...


The hard drive has crashed.
 
2012-09-26 11:51:03 AM
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt." -- Abraham Lincoln
 
hej
2012-09-26 11:51:08 AM
60% of the time, Obama gets elected every time.
 
2012-09-26 11:51:40 AM
By Chuck Todd

No thanks. All ideologies aside, that guy is a major doucher.
 
2012-09-26 11:52:12 AM
Too many statisticals in the headline. I thought 3 was the limit.
 
2012-09-26 11:53:30 AM
wonkette.com

Looks like I picked the wrong presidential campaign to stop sniffing glue.
 
2012-09-26 11:54:00 AM
It's too much to think about.
 
2012-09-26 11:54:57 AM
Polls say that Romney has a 50/50 chance of winning, though there's only a 10 percent chance of that.
 
2012-09-26 11:55:55 AM
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2012-09-26 11:57:52 AM

Mercutio74: I wonder if Romney's thought about rebooting his campaign...


Romney is going to go the debates and tell stories about how he grew up as a poor black child.
 
2012-09-26 11:58:54 AM

Ivo Shandor: Polls say that Romney has a 50/50 chance of winning, though there's only a 10 percent chance of that.


Will Romney win?

Some say maybe, but others aren't so sure.
 
2012-09-26 11:59:34 AM

funk_soul_bubby: By Chuck Todd

No thanks. All ideologies aside, that guy is a major doucher.


www.mediabistro.com
 
2012-09-26 11:59:39 AM

odinsposse: Mercutio74: I wonder if Romney's thought about rebooting his campaign...

Romney is going to go the debates and tell stories about how he grew up as a poor black child.


lol. He might as well, at this point it can't hurt
 
2012-09-26 12:01:16 PM
Looking Good.

www.rove.com
 
2012-09-26 12:01:43 PM

Mercutio74: I wonder if Romney's thought about rebooting his campaign...


What you did there...

dilbert.com

...I see it.
 
2012-09-26 12:01:48 PM
Finally, an election where there isn't any need to get out the vote.
 
2012-09-26 12:03:19 PM

kronicfeld: funk_soul_bubby: By Chuck Todd

No thanks. All ideologies aside, that guy is a major doucher.

[www.mediabistro.com image 252x190]


From now on I will refer to Chuck Todd as "Ginger Balls".
 
2012-09-26 12:04:21 PM

NateGrey: Looking Good.

[www.rove.com image 694x519]


If he loses NC, I shall laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and you get the idea.
 
2012-09-26 12:05:26 PM
If I was part of Mitt's security detail, I'd be keeping an extra close eye out for people with forks, because it's pretty much getting to that point.

www.nashvillescene.com
 
2012-09-26 12:05:52 PM
I hope Romney gets so exasperated that he just starts asking crowds "What do you want from me? I'll be anything you want me to be" or tries to explain away his past comments by saying "Look, I was just saying those things to try and get people to vote for me"
 
2012-09-26 12:06:28 PM
What has the 99% said about this?
 
2012-09-26 12:06:58 PM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: The debates are going to be so sweet. I wonder if Romney will break out in flopsweat or if the fact that he's richer than Croesus will cushion the blow.


Just watching Romney's NBC interview about education last night was excruciating. When he doesn't have a remark prepared in advance for a question, he stumbles over his speech so much that it's just uncomfortable to listen to. If he gets riled up during the debates, it will be quite a sight.
 
2012-09-26 12:10:18 PM

Whiskey Pete: At this point I think Romney will even vote for Obama.


Bobby Newport: That's why I'm voting for you.
[Everyone Laughs]
Bobby Newport: What's so funny?
Leslie Knope: They're laughing at your joke.
Bobby Newport: What joke? I am voting for you.
Leslie Knope: You're not voting for yourself?
Bobby Newport: Leslie, you can't vote for yourself, I don't think. I'm pretty sure that's illegal.
 
2012-09-26 12:12:18 PM

Lost Thought 00: I hope Romney gets so exasperated that he just starts asking crowds "What do you want from me? I'll be anything you want me to be" or tries to explain away his past comments by saying "Look, I was just saying those things to try and get people to vote for me"


I'd pay real money to see a Let Mitt be Mitt campaign, or unleashing the Mormon Gordon Gecko, if you will.

Have Romney go out there and act like the arsehole corporate raider jerkoff he is. Talk down to the crowd and explain to them how they should vote for him, because he's so much better than they are. Tell them that he won't answer policy questions, because they'd be too stupid to understand his answers anyway, then have people ejected for booing or asking tough questions.
 
2012-09-26 12:13:44 PM
Targeting the Working Poor
September 05, 1995

Gerald Ford put it into law. Ronald Reagan extolled it as "the best anti-poverty, the best pro-family, the best job-creation measure to come out of Congress." George Bush expanded the program still more. Called the Earned Income Tax Credit, it fulfills Republican objectives in rewarding work, drawing people off welfare and raising up the working poor above the poverty level without increasing minimum wages.

So why are some of the gung-ho conservatives on Capitol Hill intent on slashing away at a popular, bipartisan federal initiative that helps 14 million low-income Americans make ends meet? Why are they raiding a program that rewards work at the same time they are out to reform welfare by making recipients work?

Link
 
2012-09-26 12:16:01 PM
You would think before he left the building, Karl Rove would have told someone how to run a farking campaign (the last successful GOP presidential campaign that did not, in some way, involve Karl Rove? Eisenhower)
 
2012-09-26 12:17:50 PM
Considering that the '00, '04, and '08 polls weren't very accurate I'll just say ignore them and vote for whomever you like
 
2012-09-26 12:21:51 PM

HotWingConspiracy: [wonkette.com image 234x300]

Looks like I picked the wrong presidential campaign to stop sniffing glue.


That made me lol heartily.
 
2012-09-26 12:24:16 PM

Oldiron_79: Considering that the '00, '04, and '08 polls weren't very accurate


[Citation Needed]

They were, in fact, pretty damned accurate, especially if you do a Nate Silver and add them up and adjust for house effects and the like.
 
2012-09-26 12:24:54 PM
I think Obama employees a prevent defense in the debates. The last thing he wants to do is string 3 sentences together that when one is dropped sounds like "they didn't build that". I don't think the debates are giong to be the slaughter that some hope for. I could be wrong. Mitt is desperate.
 
2012-09-26 12:26:08 PM
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
 
2012-09-26 12:27:07 PM

Devo: I think Obama employees a prevent defense in the debates. The last thing he wants to do is string 3 sentences together that when one is dropped sounds like "they didn't build that". I don't think the debates are giong to be the slaughter that some hope for. I could be wrong. Mitt is desperate.


I think the first debate will have Obama playing things pretty safe. Depending on how the media response is after it, the next debate will be pretty great.
 
2012-09-26 12:28:02 PM
IIRC, at this point in 2008, the McCain campaign wasn't looking this dire. Everyone was all atizzy over Palin and the campaign suspension, but weren't the polls much closer than this?
 
2012-09-26 12:30:12 PM

HighOnCraic: Targeting the Working Poor
September 05, 1995

Gerald Ford put it into law. Ronald Reagan extolled it as "the best anti-poverty, the best pro-family, the best job-creation measure to come out of Congress." George Bush expanded the program still more. Called the Earned Income Tax Credit, it fulfills Republican objectives in rewarding work, drawing people off welfare and raising up the working poor above the poverty level without increasing minimum wages.

So why are some of the gung-ho conservatives on Capitol Hill intent on slashing away at a popular, bipartisan federal initiative that helps 14 million low-income Americans make ends meet? Why are they raiding a program that rewards work at the same time they are out to reform welfare by making recipients work?

Link


Because they are traitorous evil sub humans who should be hanged in the town square with piano wire.
 
2012-09-26 12:33:38 PM
Geotpf: Oldiron_79: Considering that the '00, '04, and '08 polls weren't very accurate

[Citation Needed]

They were, in fact, pretty damned accurate, especially if you do a Nate Silver and add them up and adjust for house effects and the like.


No they wasn't, well maybe '04 kinda of, but '08 was supposed to be a nail biter, not an Obama Landslide, '00 was supposed to be a Gore landslide, not a nail biter that Bush Squeaked out, and '04 was supposed to be a nail biter that Kerry Would squeak out.
 
2012-09-26 12:37:34 PM

Devo: I think Obama employees a prevent defense in the debates. The last thing he wants to do is string 3 sentences together that when one is dropped sounds like "they didn't build that". I don't think the debates are giong to be the slaughter that some hope for. I could be wrong. Mitt is desperate.


As a Cleveland Browns fan few things worry more than the prevent defence
 
2012-09-26 12:38:50 PM

Jubeebee: IIRC, at this point in 2008, the McCain campaign wasn't looking this dire. Everyone was all atizzy over Palin and the campaign suspension, but weren't the polls much closer than this?


No.

Link

The media made it out to be a horse race, but the polls were pretty consistent by late September for an Obama win.
 
2012-09-26 12:40:39 PM

Oldiron_79: No they wasn't, well maybe '04 kinda of, but '08 was supposed to be a nail biter, not an Obama Landslide,


See my link above.

The media made the race to be a tight race to keep people watching, but anyone watching the actual polls knew it was going to be an Obama win.
 
2012-09-26 12:47:59 PM

Oldiron_79: No they wasn't, well maybe '04 kinda of, but '08 was supposed to be a nail biter, not an Obama Landslide, '00 was supposed to be a Gore landslide, not a nail biter that Bush Squeaked out, and '04 was supposed to be a nail biter that Kerry Would squeak out.


'08 turned out almost exactly how I expected it to, based off polling.
 
2012-09-26 12:50:08 PM
60% of the time Romeny's wrong everytime.
 
2012-09-26 12:50:19 PM

Jackpot777: NateGrey: Looking Good.

[www.rove.com image 694x519]

If he loses NC, I shall laugh and laugh and you get the idea.


It's Georgia that's the one I'm hoping he loses. That would officially make it a disaster for the Republicans. And I still think it's very possible, no matter what Nate thinks.
 
2012-09-26 12:58:36 PM

EighthDay: No.

Link

The media made it out to be a horse race, but the polls were pretty consistent by late September for an Obama win.


Yes, it looked like an Obama win, but it didn't look as clear as it does now.
 
2012-09-26 01:07:46 PM

Whiskey Pete: Mercutio74: I wonder if Romney's thought about rebooting his campaign...

The hard drive has crashed.


Pretty sure they never had a hard drive.
Only floppies
 
2012-09-26 01:09:41 PM

Tigger: HighOnCraic: Targeting the Working Poor
September 05, 1995

Gerald Ford put it into law. Ronald Reagan extolled it as "the best anti-poverty, the best pro-family, the best job-creation measure to come out of Congress." George Bush expanded the program still more. Called the Earned Income Tax Credit, it fulfills Republican objectives in rewarding work, drawing people off welfare and raising up the working poor above the poverty level without increasing minimum wages.

So why are some of the gung-ho conservatives on Capitol Hill intent on slashing away at a popular, bipartisan federal initiative that helps 14 million low-income Americans make ends meet? Why are they raiding a program that rewards work at the same time they are out to reform welfare by making recipients work?

Link

Because they are traitorous evil sub humans who should be hanged in the town square with piano wire.


Or in other words. They are Republicans.
 
2012-09-26 01:14:10 PM

impaler: EighthDay: No.

Link

The media made it out to be a horse race, but the polls were pretty consistent by late September for an Obama win.

Yes, it looked like an Obama win, but it didn't look as clear as it does now.


It looked to be pretty clearly an Obama win, but Palin hadn't quite imploded by this stage. The Couric interview was around this time, and the fallout hadn't shown up quite yet. Even Rasmussen had Obama up by +6 at this stage in 08.
 
2012-09-26 01:19:47 PM

Voiceofreason01: Readers Digest version: the latest polls show Romney losing by double digit margins in all the key battleground States and it's late September and his campaign is in "Everybody panic!" damage control mode.


Again, more proof that the media has a liberal bias. "double digit margins" only occur if you use percentages, which are inherently socialist (out of one hundred, regardless if the sample size is only 30, it is still projected and forced upon 100, again, showing democrats attempts to grow the government bigger than needed). If you were to use decimals, as any good capitalist would (proof money is based in decimals), then the difference between Obama and Romney is less than one. Which more accurately reflects how close this election is.

/Advertisement paid for by the Republicans for Ratio Reform
 
2012-09-26 01:22:53 PM

Glenford: Too many statisticals in the headline. I thought 3 was the limit.


Wat
 
2012-09-26 01:24:05 PM

Mercutio74: I wonder if Romney's thought about rebooting his campaign...


A reboot won't help unless you've updated the code.
 
2012-09-26 01:30:03 PM

Oldiron_79: Geotpf: Oldiron_79: Considering that the '00, '04, and '08 polls weren't very accurate

[Citation Needed]

They were, in fact, pretty damned accurate, especially if you do a Nate Silver and add them up and adjust for house effects and the like.

No they wasn't, well maybe '04 kinda of, but '08 was supposed to be a nail biter, not an Obama Landslide, '00 was supposed to be a Gore landslide, not a nail biter that Bush Squeaked out, and '04 was supposed to be a nail biter that Kerry Would squeak out.


I like how you keep saying things but not citing. Republican amirite?
 
2012-09-26 01:47:37 PM
This campaign has turned into a never ending lulz-fest.

I am old enough to remember Dukakis in the tank. This campaign has gone way, way beyond that. The tank ad was a one-off in an otherwise lackluster campaign. Romney's been getting back in the damned tank and riding around in it over and over again, for weeks now, and crashing the farking thing into buildings on top of it. Political science students are going to be studying this campaign years from now, as a showcase example of just how badly a modern-day presidential campaign can fark up.
 
2012-09-26 01:57:45 PM
I was shocked to see the first debate is next Wednesday...popcorn at the ready!
 
2012-09-26 02:02:40 PM

funk_soul_bubby: By Chuck Todd

No thanks. All ideologies aside, that guy is a major doucher.


so, you're saying that he's reporting the polls incorrectly? just curious.
 
2012-09-26 02:03:21 PM

Oldiron_79: Geotpf: Oldiron_79: Considering that the '00, '04, and '08 polls weren't very accurate

[Citation Needed]

They were, in fact, pretty damned accurate, especially if you do a Nate Silver and add them up and adjust for house effects and the like.

No they wasn't, well maybe '04 kinda of, but '08 was supposed to be a nail biter, not an Obama Landslide, '00 was supposed to be a Gore landslide, not a nail biter that Bush Squeaked out, and '04 was supposed to be a nail biter that Kerry Would squeak out.


[Citation Still Needed]
 
2012-09-26 02:27:59 PM

FlashHarry: funk_soul_bubby: By Chuck Todd

No thanks. All ideologies aside, that guy is a major doucher.

so, you're saying that he's reporting the polls incorrectly? just curious.


Just saying he looks like a major doucher.
 
2012-09-26 03:05:26 PM

NeoCortex42: Monkeyhouse Zendo: The debates are going to be so sweet. I wonder if Romney will break out in flopsweat or if the fact that he's richer than Croesus will cushion the blow.

Just watching Romney's NBC interview about education last night was excruciating. When he doesn't have a remark prepared in advance for a question, he stumbles over his speech so much that it's just uncomfortable to listen to. If he gets riled up during the debates, it will be quite a sight.


In the "debates," the candidates agree on a line of questioning. Candidates are not supposed to cross question each other. And Mitt was able to hire a very able debate prep team for Florida. I am working under the assumption that he will use them again for the big debates. He's going to be prepped and ready. We have no reason to think otherwise, so I really wish people would stop trying to lower expectations for him. There's no way he deserves to get a pass just because he doesn't actually burst into tears.
 
2012-09-26 03:35:13 PM

DeaH: NeoCortex42: Monkeyhouse Zendo: The debates are going to be so sweet. I wonder if Romney will break out in flopsweat or if the fact that he's richer than Croesus will cushion the blow.

Just watching Romney's NBC interview about education last night was excruciating. When he doesn't have a remark prepared in advance for a question, he stumbles over his speech so much that it's just uncomfortable to listen to. If he gets riled up during the debates, it will be quite a sight.

In the "debates," the candidates agree on a line of questioning. Candidates are not supposed to cross question each other. And Mitt was able to hire a very able debate prep team for Florida. I am working under the assumption that he will use them again for the big debates. He's going to be prepped and ready. We have no reason to think otherwise, so I really wish people would stop trying to lower expectations for him. There's no way he deserves to get a pass just because he doesn't actually burst into tears.


I'm would like Obama to force a Romney divide by zero software glitch. I have 3 possible ways I would do it If I was Obama. Simplest way would be to attack Romney on how poorly he has managed his campaign and tell him the Presidency has much more moving parts that that and he would clearly be over his head.

If necessary, list examples from the GOP primaries, the GOP convention, Libya, and the fund raiser footage etc...etc...
 
2012-09-26 03:45:57 PM
I wonder, do these polls bother to ask if the person is going to actually vote? I get the feeling there may be a lot of people who SAY they support Romney, but who aren't, well, going to go out and *vote*.
 
2012-09-26 03:50:49 PM

mrshowrules: DeaH: NeoCortex42: Monkeyhouse Zendo: The debates are going to be so sweet. I wonder if Romney will break out in flopsweat or if the fact that he's richer than Croesus will cushion the blow.

Just watching Romney's NBC interview about education last night was excruciating. When he doesn't have a remark prepared in advance for a question, he stumbles over his speech so much that it's just uncomfortable to listen to. If he gets riled up during the debates, it will be quite a sight.

In the "debates," the candidates agree on a line of questioning. Candidates are not supposed to cross question each other. And Mitt was able to hire a very able debate prep team for Florida. I am working under the assumption that he will use them again for the big debates. He's going to be prepped and ready. We have no reason to think otherwise, so I really wish people would stop trying to lower expectations for him. There's no way he deserves to get a pass just because he doesn't actually burst into tears.

I'm would like Obama to force a Romney divide by zero software glitch. I have 3 possible ways I would do it If I was Obama. Simplest way would be to attack Romney on how poorly he has managed his campaign and tell him the Presidency has much more moving parts that that and he would clearly be over his head.

If necessary, list examples from the GOP primaries, the GOP convention, Libya, and the fund raiser footage etc...etc...


The divide by zero mechanism in the debates will be Obama saying good things about Romney's father. It doesn't even have to be the income tax thing. If Obama mentions that Romney's father saved the jobs of 3 faltering auto companies to form American Motors, it highlights Bain Capital's destruction of jobs. If he mentions that the father came out against the Vietnam War in 1967, Li'l Romney favored it but wouldn't fight in it. Obama could talk about how George Romney would be a Democrat today. Any mentions of George Romney will remind voters of Poppy Bush vs. Baby Bush.
 
2012-09-26 04:05:08 PM

Kevin72: mrshowrules: DeaH: NeoCortex42: Monkeyhouse Zendo: The debates are going to be so sweet. I wonder if Romney will break out in flopsweat or if the fact that he's richer than Croesus will cushion the blow.

Just watching Romney's NBC interview about education last night was excruciating. When he doesn't have a remark prepared in advance for a question, he stumbles over his speech so much that it's just uncomfortable to listen to. If he gets riled up during the debates, it will be quite a sight.

In the "debates," the candidates agree on a line of questioning. Candidates are not supposed to cross question each other. And Mitt was able to hire a very able debate prep team for Florida. I am working under the assumption that he will use them again for the big debates. He's going to be prepped and ready. We have no reason to think otherwise, so I really wish people would stop trying to lower expectations for him. There's no way he deserves to get a pass just because he doesn't actually burst into tears.

I'm would like Obama to force a Romney divide by zero software glitch. I have 3 possible ways I would do it If I was Obama. Simplest way would be to attack Romney on how poorly he has managed his campaign and tell him the Presidency has much more moving parts that that and he would clearly be over his head.

If necessary, list examples from the GOP primaries, the GOP convention, Libya, and the fund raiser footage etc...etc...

The divide by zero mechanism in the debates will be Obama saying good things about Romney's father. It doesn't even have to be the income tax thing. If Obama mentions that Romney's father saved the jobs of 3 faltering auto companies to form American Motors, it highlights Bain Capital's destruction of jobs. If he mentions that the father came out against the Vietnam War in 1967, Li'l Romney favored it but wouldn't fight in it. Obama could talk about how George Romney would be a Democrat today. Any mentions of George Romney will remind voters of P ...


Brilliant. Bonus points if Romney breaks down and accidentally calls Obama "dad".

/too much?
 
2012-09-26 04:22:07 PM

Felgraf: I wonder, do these polls bother to ask if the person is going to actually vote? I get the feeling there may be a lot of people who SAY they support Romney, but who aren't, well, going to go out and *vote*.


Yes, they do. Look for the "Likely Voter" polls.
 
2012-09-26 04:59:28 PM

neritz: Felgraf: I wonder, do these polls bother to ask if the person is going to actually vote? I get the feeling there may be a lot of people who SAY they support Romney, but who aren't, well, going to go out and *vote*.

Yes, they do. Look for the "Likely Voter" polls.


And the really good polling organizations have a series of questions they use to determine who is most likely to actually vote (some pollster being interviewed on NPR, I didn't catch which firm he was from, said he uses nine questions that his firm has found to be fairly good predictors).
 
2012-09-26 06:08:35 PM

mrshowrules: DeaH: NeoCortex42: Monkeyhouse Zendo: The debates are going to be so sweet. I wonder if Romney will break out in flopsweat or if the fact that he's richer than Croesus will cushion the blow.

Just watching Romney's NBC interview about education last night was excruciating. When he doesn't have a remark prepared in advance for a question, he stumbles over his speech so much that it's just uncomfortable to listen to. If he gets riled up during the debates, it will be quite a sight.

In the "debates," the candidates agree on a line of questioning. Candidates are not supposed to cross question each other. And Mitt was able to hire a very able debate prep team for Florida. I am working under the assumption that he will use them again for the big debates. He's going to be prepped and ready. We have no reason to think otherwise, so I really wish people would stop trying to lower expectations for him. There's no way he deserves to get a pass just because he doesn't actually burst into tears.

I'm would like Obama to force a Romney divide by zero software glitch. I have 3 possible ways I would do it If I was Obama. Simplest way would be to attack Romney on how poorly he has managed his campaign and tell him the Presidency has much more moving parts that that and he would clearly be over his head.

If necessary, list examples from the GOP primaries, the GOP convention, Libya, and the fund raiser footage etc...etc...


Don't get me wrong here. I want Romney to cry like a biatch, or worse, like a Boehner. I just don't want to set expectations so low for Mitt that he gets a pass for not crying. Mitt Romney graduated in the top 5% of his Business class and in the top 33% of his law class. We saw in Florida, he is capable of being an effective debater. We ought to hold Romney to these high standards.
 
2012-09-26 06:16:55 PM

funk_soul_bubby: major doucher


www.have-you-met-ted.com

Major Doucher!
 
2012-09-27 05:40:33 PM

NateGrey: Looking Good.

[www.rove.com image 694x519]


LOL "rove.com?"
 
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