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(Fox News)   Turns out that Mitt Romney pays a higher tax rate than 97% of you. Who are you going to believe, FoxNews backed up by the IRS, or your own 1040?   (foxnews.com) divider line 514
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2012-09-26 03:12:27 PM  

3StratMan: Keep using the Romney tax distraction, Farkers, since it isn't working anyway. Sane, rational people don't give a shiat about Romney's taxes, especially while they know that the Middle East is on fire, our enemies still hate us and now our allies do as well, the debt has gotten to an unsurvivable level, unemployment numbers haven't gotten any better, gasoline still costs $4/gal since the energy policy still sucks hind tit, and the full scale implementation of the largest tax increase in history that is Obamacare is right around the corner. Among other things.

Keep biatching about Romney's taxes, though. Because the future of this country definitely hinges on that.

Priorities, biatches.


media.dcentertainment.com
 
2012-09-26 03:12:33 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Very subjective opinion. What is a fact is that he pays far more than you in dollar terms and therefore is carrying your ass.


Actually, if he's carrying anyone's "ass", it's large corporations like G.E. My sub
 
2012-09-26 03:12:46 PM  

Ambivalence: Ah republicans. Where the poor have way too much and the rich don't have nearly enough.


And the rich will work harder if we give them more, and the poor will work harder if we give them less.
 
2012-09-26 03:12:56 PM  

3StratMan: Keep using the Romney tax distraction, Farkers, since it isn't working anyway.


you might want to check out some recent polls, but based on the rest of your post I'd assume it's the liberal-media-conspiracy at fault for why Romney isn't polling way above Obama.
 
2012-09-26 03:13:14 PM  

Ambivalence: Ah republicans. Where the poor have way too much and the rich don't have nearly enough.


Goddamn poors think they're entitled to FOOD for chrissakes! What the hell kind of country do they think we're running here? They can eat dirt and shiat money, just like we did.
 
2012-09-26 03:14:42 PM  

Maud Dib: weaselboy is long gone, his MO is to threadsh*t and run.


Thanks for the heads up!
 
2012-09-26 03:14:45 PM  

Grungehamster: Also, while we're deciding to ignore certain taxes in order to fit a narrative, anyone want to discuss how much Romney pays on money he makes overseas?


Now we're biatching about the taxes Romney pays to foreign governments?

/protip: that form is used to detemine the credit that the taxpayer gets against US tax liability. You should be happy it's a low rate, it means more tax for the US.
 
2012-09-26 03:15:35 PM  

karnal: Probably pays more in taxes in a year than the combined amount of every farker that comments on this thread does in a lifetime.....


We'll never know...but keep speculating.
 
2012-09-26 03:16:11 PM  

impaler: sammythefish: FICA isn't included in the effective tax rate as referenced in the article,

That's because they're being dishonest.

People pay FICA to the federal government, and it is part of their effective federal tax rate. Ignoring it is just dishonesty.


Not if we define terms up front. All of these claims have been about federal income tax, not about FICA (or property taxes, or sales taxes, etc). As long as we are consistent, I don't really see the dishonesty. In terms of Federal Income Tax - the claim is correct: Romney pays a higher effective tax than most. *most*. My husband and I have a yearly income of about $175,000. We pay an effective tax of around 16% (because do itemize - take out property taxes, home mortgage interest, charitable deductions and sales tax). So, we are on the very top, top, edge of middle class and pay more effective tax than Romney. So, there are cases where someone in middle class can pay more in effective tax, but it simply isn't possible if talking about an income of $50,000 as the original poster claimed.
 
2012-09-26 03:17:38 PM  

Jackson Herring: netizencain: Ahh, the politics of jealousy.

Who ARE you? You aren't new around here but I've only recently noticed your terrible posts


I'm guessing it's this guy?

I remember him from '10 and '08. I think he hits up the sports tab in the off season to troll it up over there.
 
2012-09-26 03:19:48 PM  

karnal: So was 'disparity' your Word of the Day and you had to use it in a sentence? Good job.


"Shocking disparity" is a phrase, numbnuts.

Nothing like responding to the substance, is there?

(Because that really was nothing like "responding to the substance".)

But I'm talking to a guy who thinks repetition for emphasis is a sign of, well, something...

Meh. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, odds are it's a right-wing shill on Fark. 

Duck.
 
2012-09-26 03:20:04 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: RyogaM: Debeo Summa Credo: impaler: Debeo Summa Credo:

Your proposal would just turn it into another welfare program.



Sure it would. And then the next question is: So What? So what if SS is a some socialist quasi-welfare system or is a socialist fully-welfare system. So what? If my means of reform creates a stronger, safer, fully paid-for, system to deal with the real issue of old people and disabled people living their final years in poverty, so what if it is welfare or just quasi-welfare?

Because, guess what, the other option, the option championed from the other side, is to create a system which is weaker, not being paid for, and more people live in poverty and want in their later years. All because of the word, ""welfare," some people desire more people to live in poverty. Ridiculous.

And, it's asinine that we are not supposed to consider the tax burden of payroll taxes in the equation of tax fairness, even for those who are self-employed and pay the whole 14% themselves, because they aren't "income taxes." But, hey, semantics must be good for something.
 
2012-09-26 03:21:05 PM  

Deucednuisance: Meh. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, odds are it's a right-wing shill on Fark.


I would've guessed "duck"
 
2012-09-26 03:21:22 PM  
Carn

Ambivalence: Ah republicans. Where the poor have way too much and the rich don't have nearly enough.

Goddamn poors think they're entitled to FOOD for chrissakes! What the hell kind of country do they think we're running here? They can eat dirt and shiat money, just like we did.



Poor don't go hungry in America.....actually the fattest people here are the poor...especially since McDonalds now takes food stamps. God Bless the U.S.!
 
2012-09-26 03:23:14 PM  

Headso: 3StratMan: Keep using the Romney tax distraction, Farkers, since it isn't working anyway.

you might want to check out some recent polls, but based on the rest of your post I'd assume it's the liberal-media-conspiracy at fault for why Romney isn't polling way above Obama.


Oh yeah, the polls. Like the polls that only poll specific demographics to get results closer to what they want. Unless you actually contact every voter in the country to answer your poll, ultimately your poll results don't mean shiat and is just a guessing game and wishful thinking at best. The only poll that matters is the one on November 6th.
 
2012-09-26 03:24:32 PM  

skullkrusher: Deucednuisance: Meh. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, odds are it's a right-wing shill on Fark.

I would've guessed "duck"


Well, see? If you weren't a right wing shill, you'd know better.

Do I have to say this is a joke?
 
2012-09-26 03:25:35 PM  

3StratMan: Keep using the Romney tax distraction, Farkers, since it isn't working anyway.


I long for the day that I have enough scratch to exclude hundreds of thousands of dollars from my AGI by "donating" it to multiple "charitable" Trusts, which exist purely for the benefit of myself.

It's genius, I tells ya!
 
2012-09-26 03:25:35 PM  

ScouserDuck: Ahhhh...guilty until proven innocent. The American way.


"Trust, but verify." - Ronald Reagan
 
2012-09-26 03:26:12 PM  
I wouldn't believe Fox News if it said water was wet.
 
2012-09-26 03:27:29 PM  

karnal: Is uninformed the same as stupid? In your case, yes it is....can't even get your facts straight.
Romney was already a wealthy man by the time his father died in 1995. He did receive an inheritance but gave it away to charity.


Willard paid for college with stock his father bought for him. So he didn't build that.

Then, after his education was complete, he got a job at Bain & Company.

Romney aspired to start a new business, and in 1983, Bill Bain offered him the chance to head a new venture that would buy into companies, have them benefit from Bain consulting techniques, and allow the venture's partners to reap higher rewards than consulting fees. He initially refrained from accepting the offer, and Bain re-arranged the terms in a complicated partnership structure so that there was no financial or professional risk to Romney. Thus, in 1984, Romney left Bain & Company to co-found the spin-off private equity investment firm, Bain Capital.

So, he didn't actually build that either.

And he donated his inheritance to BYU's "George W. Romney Institute of Public Management." That's right - his inheritance went to help people prepare for a lifetime of working in government. Sounds a bit liberal.

George Romney was a good man with decent values. Too bad his son sold out those values (and his own) in a last-ditch attempt to be president.
 
2012-09-26 03:27:37 PM  

impaler: 3StratMan: gasoline still costs $4/gal since the energy policy still sucks hind tit

Yet the US is using less gas, and producing more gas.

It's like the economy exists in other parts of the world or something?


Obama didn't pull the lower gas prices lever. Duh!
 
2012-09-26 03:28:19 PM  

3StratMan: Sane, rational people



so, not a single one of you fark conservatives.
 
2012-09-26 03:28:31 PM  

3StratMan: Like the polls that only poll specific demographics to get results closer to what they want


called it! liberal media conspiracy
 
2012-09-26 03:29:04 PM  

Mikey1969: Debeo Summa Credo: Very subjective opinion. What is a fact is that he pays far more than you in dollar terms and therefore is carrying your ass.

Actually, if he's carrying anyone's "ass", it's large corporations like G.E. My sub


GE paid $8b in income taxes on their global operations over the last three years, per their audited 10k.

But yeah, I'd agree in general that targeted tax breaks for corporations should be reduced. GE gets a significant benefit from green tax credits because of their wind turbine operations.
 
2012-09-26 03:29:11 PM  

NallTWD: GAT_00:

The f*ck is this?

Okay, I've been waffling on adding you to my faves list (of which there are three since 2007) for a year now, and that sealed it. What color do you want?


Some variant of blue please, thank you very much.

skullkrusher: mrshowrules: netizencain: GAT_00: Even if that's true, which it isn't, he makes more than 99.99% of us so he's still paying far too little.

Thank god you're in charge of deciding how much is too much for the rest of us.

Conservatives get to pick which wars are started. Liberals get to decide tax rates. Fair?

reverse that and we got ourselves a deal


If the liberals get to control the military budget too so we can try to pay for your tax cuts, I'm open to negotiations.
 
2012-09-26 03:29:19 PM  

karnal: Poor don't go hungry in America


wrong you are....


did you call anyone a DIM yet?

/you should look up the word: weak
 
2012-09-26 03:29:20 PM  

karnal: I guess if you didn't recognize it as a typo you are probably unfamiliar with the word....which is not too surprising. Here - one time - let me help you out:



You can't call people stupid then in the same post make basic spelling errors. It makes you look stupid.
 
2012-09-26 03:29:23 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: skullkrusher: Deucednuisance: Meh. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, odds are it's a right-wing shill on Fark.

I would've guessed "duck"

Well, see? If you weren't a right wing shill, you'd know better.

Do I have to say this is a joke?


my posts don't echo
 
2012-09-26 03:30:17 PM  
Why does everyone let distractions like this take over the whole debate? We should be talking about issues that actually matter to people. Green Bay deserved to win that game!
 
2012-09-26 03:30:20 PM  

3StratMan: Headso: 3StratMan: Keep using the Romney tax distraction, Farkers, since it isn't working anyway.

you might want to check out some recent polls, but based on the rest of your post I'd assume it's the liberal-media-conspiracy at fault for why Romney isn't polling way above Obama.

Oh yeah, the polls. Like the polls that only poll specific demographics to get results closer to what they want. Unless you actually contact every voter in the country to answer your poll, ultimately your poll results don't mean shiat and is just a guessing game and wishful thinking at best. The only poll that matters is the one on November 6th.


Silent Majority!!!!!!11

Polls are a liberal conspiracy!
 
2012-09-26 03:31:05 PM  
Deucednuisance

karnal: So was 'disparity' your Word of the Day and you had to use it in a sentence? Good job.

"Shocking disparity" is a phrase, numbnuts.

Nothing like responding to the substance, is there?

(Because that really was nothing like "responding to the substance".)

But I'm talking to a guy who thinks repetition for emphasis is a sign of, well, something...

Meh. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, odds are it's a right-wing shill on Fark.

Duck.



The disparity between your posts and how much I actually care is in direct proportion to the size of your over exaggerated ego.
 
2012-09-26 03:31:34 PM  

3StratMan: Headso: 3StratMan: Keep using the Romney tax distraction, Farkers, since it isn't working anyway.

you might want to check out some recent polls, but based on the rest of your post I'd assume it's the liberal-media-conspiracy at fault for why Romney isn't polling way above Obama.

Oh yeah, the polls. Like the polls that only poll specific demographics to get results closer to what they want. Unless you actually contact every voter in the country to answer your poll, ultimately your poll results don't mean shiat and is just a guessing game and wishful thinking at best. The only poll that matters is the one on November 6th.


I've been dying to ask this question: IF on Nov. 6th, the election map looks 95% like the map Nate Silver posts on Nov. 5th, and Nate Silver correctly predicts the presidential winner, and the electoral college totals, on Nov 5th, are you still going to say that the polls don't mean anything? I mean, I understand trying to be optimistic about your candidate's chances on 9-26, but, if Nate Silver is able to actually able to predict the results, aren't you going to fell a little bit disappointing in yourself that you could have known before hand what was going to happen, but choose to ignore it?

Or are you just trolling and actually believe Silver's predictions will come true, but just want to take a piss on the liberals?
 
2012-09-26 03:32:16 PM  

Fart_Machine: 3StratMan: Headso: 3StratMan: Keep using the Romney tax distraction, Farkers, since it isn't working anyway.

you might want to check out some recent polls, but based on the rest of your post I'd assume it's the liberal-media-conspiracy at fault for why Romney isn't polling way above Obama.

Oh yeah, the polls. Like the polls that only poll specific demographics to get results closer to what they want. Unless you actually contact every voter in the country to answer your poll, ultimately your poll results don't mean shiat and is just a guessing game and wishful thinking at best. The only poll that matters is the one on November 6th.

Silent Majority!!!!!!11

Polls are a liberal conspiracy!


I wish the silent majority would shut up for once.
 
2012-09-26 03:32:51 PM  

skullkrusher: Corvus: I actually pay a higher percentage rate than Romney does.

Also would like to see how much taxes he paid on the Romney illegally held in Swiss bank accounts before 2009 amnesty program that he is hiding.

dude's rich but not to the extent we can start calling "money" "Romney" now.


I may disagree with you on policy 100% of the time, but you do have a pretty quick wit. I'm not sure I could have kept my sense of humor back in 2004 when Kerry was our Romney, so kudos.
 
2012-09-26 03:32:56 PM  

3StratMan: Headso: 3StratMan: Keep using the Romney tax distraction, Farkers, since it isn't working anyway.

you might want to check out some recent polls, but based on the rest of your post I'd assume it's the liberal-media-conspiracy at fault for why Romney isn't polling way above Obama.

Oh yeah, the polls. Like the polls that only poll specific demographics to get results closer to what they want. Unless you actually contact every voter in the country to answer your poll, ultimately your poll results don't mean shiat and is just a guessing game and wishful thinking at best. The only poll that matters is the one on November 6th.


The art of polling has a liberal bias.
 
2012-09-26 03:34:01 PM  

GAT_00: NallTWD: GAT_00:

The f*ck is this?

Okay, I've been waffling on adding you to my faves list (of which there are three since 2007) for a year now, and that sealed it. What color do you want?

Some variant of blue please, thank you very much.

skullkrusher: mrshowrules: netizencain: GAT_00: Even if that's true, which it isn't, he makes more than 99.99% of us so he's still paying far too little.

Thank god you're in charge of deciding how much is too much for the rest of us.

Conservatives get to pick which wars are started. Liberals get to decide tax rates. Fair?

reverse that and we got ourselves a deal

If the liberals get to control the military budget too so we can try to pay for your tax cuts, I'm open to negotiations.


signed and sealed. I have sent it via Pony Express to

Che von Marx
1917 Red Square Circle
Sociolismopolis, Vermont 05402
 
2012-09-26 03:34:35 PM  

Fart_Machine: Polls are a liberal conspiracy!


List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Community Organizers
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Climatologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Satan
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable news except FNC
The New York Times
The LA Times
The Washington Post
The Associated Press
Reuters
BBC
The Guardian
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
ACORN
National Endowment for the Arts
Gays
Judges
NPR
Paleontologists
Astrophysicists
Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
WHO
WTO
Inflated tires
The Honolulu Advertiser
The Star Bulletin
Teletubbies
Sponge Bob and Patrick
Nobel Prize Committee
US Census Bureau
NOAA
Sesame Street
Comic Books
Little Green Footballs
Video Games
The Bible
CBO
Bruce Springsteen
Pennies
The Theory of Relativity
Comedy Central
Young People
whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
Small Business Owners
Math
CPAC
Navy SEALs
The Economist
The Muppets
Iowa Republicans
Low-Flow Toilets
Breast Cancer Screenings
Chrysler
Clint Eastwood.
Robert Deniro
Tom Hanks
Glenn Frey
Norman Rockwell
James Cameron
Dr. Seus
Nuns
Supreme Court Justice John Roberts
Jonathan Krohn at age 17
Australia
Fact Checkers
Facts
Polls
 
2012-09-26 03:34:48 PM  
Who are you going to believe, FoxNews backed up by the IRS a letter from Romney's accountant, or your own 1040?

ftfy subby
 
2012-09-26 03:35:23 PM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: skullkrusher: Corvus: I actually pay a higher percentage rate than Romney does.

Also would like to see how much taxes he paid on the Romney illegally held in Swiss bank accounts before 2009 amnesty program that he is hiding.

dude's rich but not to the extent we can start calling "money" "Romney" now.

I may disagree with you on policy 100% of the time, but you do have a pretty quick wit. I'm not sure I could have kept my sense of humor back in 2004 when Kerry was our Romney, so kudos.


lemme let you in a little secret:

I want your guy to win 

Don't tell anyone though. I want to be invited to the next Fark conservatroll pancake and handgun social
 
2012-09-26 03:35:48 PM  

karnal: Poor don't go hungry in America



So you're just as disconnected as Romney. That's not shocking at all.


3StratMan: The only poll that matters is the one on November 6th.



And how's that working out for you so far?

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-26 03:36:11 PM  
The interesting thing is that Romney under-deducted his charitable donations. He kicked in more than $4 million to charity (which is good) but only deducted $2 million of it. Odd, isn't it?

So what's the reason?

Deducting the entire $4 million would put him under 10% taxes paid. He can go back up to 3 years later and file an amended return and get the full amount back, so this is just a sham anyway. He's totally gaming the system, and his idiot supporter are too stupid to see it.
 
2012-09-26 03:37:54 PM  

karnal: Poor don't go hungry in America.....actually the fattest people here are the poor...especially since McDonalds now takes food stamps. God Bless the U.S.!


A troll lying his ass off? On MY Fark?

It's not about who takes SNAP funding - it's where it's allowed in the first place. It's a state decision.

As of last year, only California, Arizona and Michigan allowed it. And that is just for the elderly, homeless and disabled.

Rhode Island has a similar pilot program, and Florida does as well - but ONLY for the homeless.
 
2012-09-26 03:38:00 PM  

karnal: Carn

Ambivalence: Ah republicans. Where the poor have way too much and the rich don't have nearly enough.

Goddamn poors think they're entitled to FOOD for chrissakes! What the hell kind of country do they think we're running here? They can eat dirt and shiat money, just like we did.


Poor don't go hungry in America.....actually the fattest people here are the poor...especially since McDonalds now takes food stamps. God Bless the U.S.!


"In 2010, 17.2 million households, 14.5 percent of households (approximately one in seven), were food insecure, the highest number ever recorded in the United States

In 2010, about one-third of food-insecure households (6.7 million households, or 5.4 percent of all U.S. households) had very low food security (compared with 4.7 million households (4.1 percent) in 2007. In households with very low food security, the food intake of some household members was reduced, and their normal eating patterns were disrupted because of the household's food insecurity (Coleman-Jensen 2011, p. v., Nord 2009, p. iii.) .

Background: The United States changed the name of its definitions in 2006 that eliminated references to hunger, keeping various categories of food insecurity. This did not represent a change in what was measured. Very low food insecurity (described as food insecurity with hunger prior to 2006) means that, at times during the year, the food intake of household members was reduced and their normal eating patterns were disrupted because the household lacked money and other resources for food. This means that people were hungry ( in the sense of "the uneasy or painful sensation caused by want of food" [Oxford English Dictionary 1971] for days each year (Nord 2009 p. iii-iv.)."


Sorry, what was that you were saying? I've bolded certain important parts because you're clearly an idiot.
 
2012-09-26 03:38:21 PM  

karnal: your over exaggerated ego



Tell us all about the millions in the bank, the multiple diplomas on your wall, and the super famous people who want to be seen with you. That's what I thought. You are just like all the rest of the Fark Conservatives. Barely middle class kids just out of college or the military only making money because they know computers. But you post like you're Romney's Chief of Staff.
 
2012-09-26 03:40:12 PM  

sammythefish: All of these claims have been about federal income tax, not about FICA (or property taxes, or sales taxes, etc).


The claims have often been about federal taxes (income, FICA and excise), when discussing tax rates at the federal level. If you think people only talk about income taxes, you're hanging around too many Republicans.
 
2012-09-26 03:40:21 PM  

3StratMan: The only poll that matters is the one on November 6th.


Ugh, this is one of the stupidest teabagger talking points right now.
 
2012-09-26 03:41:40 PM  

nevirus: Ugh, this is one of the stupidest teabagger talking points right now.


It's the motto of a (every) losing campaign.
 
2012-09-26 03:42:23 PM  

nevirus: 3StratMan: The only poll that matters is the one on November 6th.

Ugh, this is one of the stupidest teabagger talking points right now.


It was used It last election when they claimed McCain would win.
 
2012-09-26 03:42:26 PM  
I'm going to believe what the internet told me, subby.
 
2012-09-26 03:42:56 PM  

karnal: Deucednuisance

karnal: So was 'disparity' your Word of the Day and you had to use it in a sentence? Good job.

"Shocking disparity" is a phrase, numbnuts.

Nothing like responding to the substance, is there?

(Because that really was nothing like "responding to the substance".)

But I'm talking to a guy who thinks repetition for emphasis is a sign of, well, something...

Meh. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, odds are it's a right-wing shill on Fark.

Duck.

The disparity between your posts and how much I actually care is in direct proportion to the size of your over exaggerated ego.


We can tell how little you care about his posts by how often you reply to them.

Also, we need a clarification - you say his ego is "over exaggerated." What level of exaggeration is acceptable in respect to one's ego? Could his be made moderately exaggerated, or even normally exaggerated, with a little tweaking of his self-esteem?
 
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