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BitwiseShift		2012-09-26 09:21:15 AM

Really. Who wants to run over a puppy who just escaped from a car wreck?

Aarontology		2012-09-26 09:33:53 AM

This is kind of stupid, but can we at least start ticketing the morons who drive around with their dog on their lap?

minoridiot		2012-09-26 09:38:09 AM

Growing up, we had a pug who would chase cars while inside our station wagon. She'd run from the front or back, jump across all the seats to the opposite window, barking her head off the whole time. She was one crazy dog.

brigid_fitch		2012-09-26 09:45:24 AM

I'm in NJ and have a 150-lb. Great Dane that we take to the park & the boardwalk a lot. I have no clue how I'm going to restrain her in the car. However, I'll figure it out if that means that morons aren't allowed to drive with their yappy little dogs on their laps anymore. Nearly got run over in the Petsmart parking lot on Thursday because some asshole was struggling w/her Yorkie in her lap as she was trying to maneuver into a parking space. Put the damn thing in a crate, strap it in, throw it in the trunk--whatever. Get the damn thing off your lap, idiot.

So many times when I'm at the dog park, people pull up with their dogs jumping all over the car, on their laps, ready to launch themselves out of the window. Restraining them isn't a bad idea.

Rincewind53		2012-09-26 09:45:49 AM

minoridiot: Growing up, we had a pug who would chase cars while inside our station wagon. She'd run from the front or back, jump across all the seats to the opposite window, barking her head off the whole time. She was one crazy dog.

And taking that away from dogs by restraining them when they go in the car would be animal cruelty.

Bonkthat_Again		2012-09-26 10:32:31 AM

brigid_fitch: So many times when I'm at the dog park, people pull up with their dogs jumping all over the car, on their laps, ready to launch themselves out of the window. Restraining them isn't a bad idea.

I line in NJ too. My Westie calmly sits in the back seat (sleeps mostly). When we go on the Parkway or Turnpike, we'll hook her harness into the seatbelt. Guess I'll have to do that all the time now.

Walker		2012-09-26 10:35:16 AM

Just put em on the roof like Mittens does.

I_Am_Weasel		2012-09-26 10:37:45 AM

Dogs make lousy airbags, but great projectiles.

brap		2012-09-26 11:10:42 AM

That isn't my puppy.

HOW THE HELL DID YOU GET IN HERE!

Gig103		2012-09-26 12:33:12 PM

A fineable offense for your dog's seat belt? What is this, Singapore?

Cadderpidder		2012-09-26 01:58:19 PM

Should'a put it in the trunk with the kids.

hogans		2012-09-26 02:00:24 PM

brigid_fitch: Nearly got run over in the Petsmart parking lot on Thursday because some asshole was struggling w/her Yorkie in her lap as she was trying to maneuver into a parking space. Put the damn thing in a crate, strap it in, throw it in the trunk--whatever. Get the damn thing off your lap, idiot.

When my cat was a mere kitten, he managed to break out of his crate while I was driving, and then wanted to check out every corner of the car, including the pedals.

Navigating an interstate on-ramp is... problematic.

I got a stronger crate after I got home.

KiplingKat872		2012-09-26 02:00:56 PM

BitwiseShift: Really. Who wants to run over a puppy who just escaped from a car wreck?

I'm more concerned about the puppy projectile going through the windshield or being flung around the car, possibly into me.

NCSB: My brother used to let his dog run around the bed of his pick up, until the dog jumped out while the truck was moving and was crushed under the rear wheels.

If I'm taking them somewhere, my dogs are always in the back seat, always wearing car harnesses.

Gyrfalcon		2012-09-26 02:02:11 PM

Aarontology: This is kind of stupid, but can we at least start ticketing the morons who drive around with their dog on their lap?

My first thought.

Saw someone with a freaking Samoyed looking out the driver's side window one day.

busy chillin'		2012-09-26 02:03:18 PM

COME AT ME BRO!

URAPNIS		2012-09-26 02:04:27 PM

Animal cruelty?

It's not animal cruelty until she hits the windshield or falls out.

cptjeff		2012-09-26 02:08:16 PM

Wait, they have harnesses for dogs?

I'm sorry, but this idea is absolutely moronic, and there is no excuse. The fact that Democrats support it at that high a rate makes me ashamed to be a Democrat.

Dazrin		2012-09-26 02:09:29 PM

Aarontology: This is kind of stupid, but can we at least start ticketing the morons who drive around with their dog on their lap?

THIS!

I think they should be confined to the back seat or cargo area (not the trunk) and preferably tethered, but at least get them out of the driver's lap.

KiplingKat872		2012-09-26 02:10:09 PM

cptjeff: Wait, they have harnesses for dogs?

car harness for dogs

They been around for a long time. It's safe for the dog, it's safe for the driver, it's safe for the drivers around them. It's just common sense.

Vitamin Pb		2012-09-26 02:11:12 PM

Honestly, why do we even allow animals? It's just animal cruelty to let them be around us. And we still let kids go outside without wearing full body armor!

/Think of the children, New Jersey!

paswa17		2012-09-26 02:12:30 PM

Would this be okay, according to the NJ bill?

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Skyd1v		2012-09-26 02:12:43 PM

hogans: brigid_fitch: Nearly got run over in the Petsmart parking lot on Thursday because some asshole was struggling w/her Yorkie in her lap as she was trying to maneuver into a parking space. Put the damn thing in a crate, strap it in, throw it in the trunk--whatever. Get the damn thing off your lap, idiot.

When my cat was a mere kitten, he managed to break out of his crate while I was driving, and then wanted to check out every corner of the car, including the pedals.

Navigating an interstate on-ramp is... problematic.

I got a stronger crate after I got home.

Can't remember if it was an article by Dave Barry or Patrick McManus, but one of them was describing driving cross-country in a car with an unrestrained cat who decided that under the brake pedal was the only place it would ride. Every time he needed to slow down he would have to reach down and grab the cat ( "like reaching into a nest of barbed wire and trying to snatch a Moray Eel"), fling it into the back seat ("frantic screams and cries for mercy from the kids"), then hit the brakes, only to have the cat shoot back under the pedal seconds later.

/brb - got some research to do. I want to re-read that again. Funny'r than hell...

Hagenhatesyouall		2012-09-26 02:13:02 PM

Silly 1st world problems.

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KiplingKat872		2012-09-26 02:13:05 PM

paswa17: Would this be okay, according to the NJ bill?

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Good question. That would probably be what the GD owner up the thread should find out about.

Vegan Meat Popsicle		2012-09-26 02:15:48 PM

You wouldn't have to be targeted with stupid laws if you stopped being a stupid person.... it's not the law's fault you're too dumb to do something painfully obvious without threat of penalty.

BarkingUnicorn		2012-09-26 02:16:01 PM

Securing a pet in a car will eliminate some driver distractions that cause accidents. I can't find any evidence that car harnesses or crates protect pets from injury in crashes.

zeppo		2012-09-26 02:16:51 PM

Gig103: A fineable offense for your dog's seat belt? What is this, Singapore?

No - this is a country where idiots let their dogs loose in their car, and quite probably cause a bunch of accidents - not to mention making an accident worse when they fly all over the place screaming, their claws flaying all over, and worse. And yes, the REAL idiots who drive with their precious poopsie on their laps or in their arms.

Do YOU want to be in a car in an accident with a 100+ pound Great Dane flying all over?? Or drive behind that little old lady who can't hardly drive anymore as it is, with her Pomeranian in her arms?? This has zero to with personal liberties.

uber humper		2012-09-26 02:17:49 PM

Hagenhatesyouall: Silly 1st world problems.

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Coming to a city near you: pickup carrying 23 crashes and kills 15

KiplingKat872		2012-09-26 02:18:07 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Securing a pet in a car will eliminate some driver distractions that cause accidents. I can't find any evidence that car harnesses or crates protect pets from injury in crashes.

Maybe because it common sense that a dog *not* flying around the car during a collision wouldn't hurt itself as badly?

You know, like humans wearing a seat belt tend to have less injuries after a major collision.

smitty04		2012-09-26 02:19:37 PM

Welcome to New Jersey. We worry about dogs more than poverty.

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bacongood		2012-09-26 02:19:50 PM

paswa17: Would this be okay, according to the NJ bill?

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I would consider that a crate... not sure though.

I am lucky, my dog hates the front seat. He got in there once (it was raining, he didn't want to wait for me to open the back door and just jumped up front), and was in the back before I made it one block.

uncleacid		2012-09-26 02:20:17 PM

KiplingKat872		2012-09-26 02:20:55 PM

smitty04: [blog.trupanion.com image 413x310]

Welcome to New Jersey. We worry about dogs more than poverty.

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Actually, the revenue from these tickets might go to programs to assist poor people, so why don't you take your logical fallacy elsewhere?

Gyrfalcon		2012-09-26 02:21:00 PM

KiplingKat872: BarkingUnicorn: Securing a pet in a car will eliminate some driver distractions that cause accidents. I can't find any evidence that car harnesses or crates protect pets from injury in crashes.

Maybe because it common sense that a dog *not* flying around the car during a collision wouldn't hurt itself as badly?

You know, like humans wearing a seat belt tend to have less injuries after a major collision.

Animals can survive accidents much better than humans, for whatever reason. Lower center of gravity, who knows. I saw a CHP photo once of a poodle that survived intact a vehicle accident that killed both passengers and totaled the vehicle.

That said, who cares about the dog? If a 15-lb poodle hits you in the back of the head in a 70 mph collision, YOU'RE not going to survive, I can tell you that.

Vegan Meat Popsicle		2012-09-26 02:22:23 PM

smitty04: Welcome to New Jersey. We worry about dogs more than poverty.

That's because all the poor people in New Jersey are from New Jersey.

Jon iz teh kewl		2012-09-26 02:22:24 PM

Oznog		2012-09-26 02:22:59 PM

URAPNIS: [i108.photobucket.com image 327x436]

Animal cruelty?

It's not animal cruelty until she hits the windshield or falls out.

My dogs are mello in the car, and they're Siberian Huskies. In the van, one curls up between the seats, another sits on the front seat.

They would FREAK OUT if tied to the seat in a harness.

The only real issue is when one's sitting up in the passenger seat and I need to look out the wiindow to check beside me for a lane-change. If that happens quickly I just shove the dog and apologize. They get confused by that but aren't particularly upset.

KiplingKat872		2012-09-26 02:24:36 PM

Gyrfalcon: Animals can survive accidents much better than humans, for whatever reason. Lower center of gravity, who knows. I saw a CHP photo once of a poodle that survived intact a vehicle accident that killed both passengers and totaled the vehicle.

Oh, you have anecdotal evidence of a single collision. Yes, that's really convincing.

But your second point is valid.

URAPNIS		2012-09-26 02:25:28 PM

Every other person on the road has their head buried in a cell phone and you people are outraged by THIS?

demonocracy21		2012-09-26 02:25:42 PM

Yea and let us ban people eating while driving, for surely because their mouth, mind and hands are focused on something other than driving, more accidents occur.

And ban listening to the radio, for surely it distracts people from the road.

talking, texting, gps? TOO distracting.

Honestly, move to california and get a robot car if you want to hold court in a violent weapon.

Or maybe we should let people have a little more freedom

flynn80		2012-09-26 02:26:02 PM

I hope the first prson to get a ticket for this feeds the ticket to dog right in front of the cop. No more Revenue Generating Law enforcement.

Vitamin Pb		2012-09-26 02:26:45 PM

KiplingKat872: smitty04: [blog.trupanion.com image 413x310]

Welcome to New Jersey. We worry about dogs more than poverty.

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Actually, the revenue from these tickets might go to programs to assist poor people, so why don't you take your logical fallacy elsewhere?

Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Oh, man, that's funny.

KiplingKat872		2012-09-26 02:28:05 PM

URAPNIS: Every other person on the road has their head buried in a cell phone and you people are outraged by THIS?

Actually many states have outlawed texting while driving, some states (like California) have outlawed handheld cell phone (so bluetooth or earphone are o.k.) while driving (which is about like talking to a person sitting next to you).

smitty04		2012-09-26 02:29:52 PM

demonocracy21: Yea and let us ban people eating while driving, for surely because their mouth, mind and hands are focused on something other than driving, more accidents occur.

As a former road warrior, I could eat and drive at the same time with no problem. Talking on the cellphone about tomorrows schedule required a thought process, then I became a danger on the road.

Vitamin Pb		2012-09-26 02:30:03 PM

KiplingKat872: URAPNIS: Every other person on the road has their head buried in a cell phone and you people are outraged by THIS?

Actually many states have outlawed texting while driving, some states (like California) have outlawed handheld cell phone (so bluetooth or earphone are o.k.) while driving (which is about like talking to a person sitting next to you).

California is all about passing laws for *other* people. I watched 5 cars and trucks pass a school bus yesterday with the blinkers and stop sign out, while it picked up kids.

Because laws are for all those bad drivers, not for me.

timujin		2012-09-26 02:31:28 PM

Aarontology: This is kind of stupid, but can we at least start ticketing the morons who drive around with their dog on their lap?

I've since lost it, but I had a pic of a guy I saw riding his motorcycle down the 101. He was wearing a top hat and had a pit bull sitting on his gas tank.

paswa17		2012-09-26 02:32:09 PM

zeppo: Do YOU want to be in a car in an accident with a 100+ pound Great Dane flying all over??

That's not the problem. If it were, there would also be laws forbidding unsecured luggage or other potentially lethal objects.

There are 2 problems these bills are designed to stop:

1) animals getting injured and/or killed in traffic accidents.
2) animals causing traffic accidents from in the car

Number 2 is your little old lady who can't hardly drive anymore as it is, with her Pomeranian in her arms or crazy dog jumping across all the seats.

Number 1 is good intentions, but where I think the problems are going to happen.

ProfessorOhki		2012-09-26 02:33:27 PM

KiplingKat872: smitty04: [blog.trupanion.com image 413x310]

Welcome to New Jersey. We worry about dogs more than poverty.

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Actually, the revenue from these tickets might go to programs to assist poor people, so why don't you take your logical fallacy elsewhere?

If you were a betting person, what would you put the odds of that at?

Odds that this will be used to extract revenue from out-of-state drivers on the other hand...

KiplingKat872		2012-09-26 02:37:02 PM

ProfessorOhki: If you were a betting person, what would you put the odds of that at?

Odds that this will be used to extract revenue from out-of-state drivers on the other hand...

The point is the idea that this law is somehow taking money away from programs for the poor is idiotic.

MooseUpNorth		2012-09-26 02:37:22 PM

KiplingKat872: paswa17: Would this be okay, according to the NJ bill?

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Good question. That would probably be what the GD owner up the thread should find out about.

I would expect so. That's about as safe a setup for a large dog as you can get.

/ Probably worth finding out for absolute sure, though.

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