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2012-09-26 11:13:35 AM
I don't remember a lot of outrage about this, I guess I visit different websites than skirtdad.
 
I don't go to those hateful bigot websites, I like the bastions of freedom and acceptance, namedly CatFancy.org and upskirtdad.com.
 
2012-09-26 12:08:47 PM

brap: I don't remember a lot of outrage about this, I guess I visit different websites than skirtdad.
 
I don't go to those hateful bigot websites, I like the bastions of freedom and acceptance, namedly CatFancy.org and upskirtdad.com.


You can't avoid it: hatred and bigotry will always be with us. The fear of the unknown, of the stranger, is encoded in our genes; anyone who stands out from the crowd in a costume risks expulsion and intolerance. In another sense, being purposely, skirtfully schismatic is claiming that you stand apart from the social mores in a stunning brocade ensemble with faux diamonds and vintage lace; you claim superiority in a skirt, a lovely little maroon number with matching handbag by Prada and pumps by Christian Dior. At the end, it doesn't matter; intolerance will drag you down.
 
2012-09-26 12:26:07 PM
idiots are everywhere.. ignore them


or, rock a kilt. that way the reactionary gender roles morons are easy to shut up.

/kilts rock
 
2012-09-26 01:50:51 PM
It's not a skirt you asshole, it's a kilt!
 
2012-09-26 01:57:30 PM
Said it last thread. Will say it again.

This is more support than some LBGT adults have or will ever get from their parents.

Good on them - let the haters hate.
 
2012-09-26 01:59:43 PM
cbsplay987.files.wordpress.com

Understands.
 
2012-09-26 02:01:05 PM
He's a bad parent, and here's why: he's letting his son go barefoot on a public street! Who knows what's lurking there. He should be strunk up and beaten.
 
2012-09-26 02:04:28 PM
I still don't really understand this idea that you have to indulge every one of your kid's whims.

That said, if that family is happy with it, let them do their thing.
 
2012-09-26 02:05:05 PM
fights or poops in public

What about fighting and pooping at the same time?
 
2012-09-26 02:06:11 PM

blatz514: fights or poops in public

What about fighting and pooping at the same time?


Poop-fights?
 
2012-09-26 02:06:44 PM

blatz514: fights or poops in public

What about fighting and pooping at the same time?


It's fine, but you should give a courtesy spit first.
 
2012-09-26 02:06:44 PM
Skirt wearing dad of skirt wearing son explains himself. And yes he's completely sane

sp33deeohsix.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-26 02:07:04 PM

KingKauff: He's a bad parent, and here's why: he's letting his son go barefoot on a public street! Who knows what's lurking there. He should be strunk up and beaten.


I got totally strunked up last night!
 
2012-09-26 02:07:51 PM

give me doughnuts: blatz514: fights or poops in public

What about fighting and pooping at the same time?

Poop-fights?


Monkeys do it.
 
2012-09-26 02:08:53 PM
I guess that is one way to deal with the cross dressing son.

A friend of a friend has a young son that likes to wear dresses and dress like a girl. It kills him (the dad), the mother is ok with it and encourages it. I guess trying to deflect crap from your son is as good a way to deal with it as anything. Or I don't know act like an adult and tell your kid what to wear.

Why do parents feel the need to listen to their kids ? It isn't like these kids are elementary school aged or whatever. They wear what you tell them to wear, they wear what you put on them.

This kind of stuff was never OK when we were young. It has nothing to do with being ok with your son being gay or whatever.

If his daughter liked to dress like a whore at the same age does that mean mom is going to be OK with that ? Will mom dress like a whore to support her little one ? What if the little guy was obsessed with WWII. Is dad going to support his kid wearing a full blown SS uniform ? Somehow I think his support for his sons clothing choices have limits.

When did it become taboo to tell your kids NO ?
 
2012-09-26 02:10:03 PM

HotWingConspiracy: That said, if that family is happy with it, let them do their thing.


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2012-09-26 02:15:02 PM

kindms: Why do parents feel the need to listen to their kids?


Indeed.
 
2012-09-26 02:17:56 PM

kindms: I guess that is one way to deal with the cross dressing son.

A friend of a friend has a young son that likes to wear dresses and dress like a girl. It kills him (the dad), the mother is ok with it and encourages it. I guess trying to deflect crap from your son is as good a way to deal with it as anything. Or I don't know act like an adult and tell your kid what to wear.


Or, I don't know, act like an adult and not get hung up over gender insecurity because your child likes wearing clothing A instead of clothing B? Oh, wait, that's what he did do.


If his daughter liked to dress like a whore at the same age does that mean mom is going to be OK with that ? Will mom dress like a whore to support her little one ? What if the little guy was obsessed with WWII. Is dad going to support his kid wearing a full blown SS uniform ? Somehow I think his support for his sons clothing choices have limits.


Your analogy fails. The kid is wearing a dress. Other kids that age wear the same exact dress, and it's not inappropriate. His older sister wore the very same dress, in fact. You have no problem with the clothing itself, unlike an SS uniform (nice Godwin, btw). No, instead, you're somehow terrified and outraged that a child is wearing an item of clothing that any other child could reasonably wear and you wouldn't bat an eye, if they had a different gender.

... Which raises an important question: why are you thinking about the genders of children?
 
2012-09-26 02:17:56 PM
You are not a normal person. You are weird and so is your kid. If anything, this explains why your kid is the way he is.
 
2012-09-26 02:20:22 PM
Naturally, he inherits her skirts and dresses...

sp33deeohsix.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-26 02:22:53 PM
Pants were invented for people who ride horses.

/ just sayin
 
2012-09-26 02:24:14 PM
What if the kid liked to run around naked, as most kids do at some point? Is dad gonna go pantless too?
 
2012-09-26 02:25:28 PM
Oop yer kilt!
 
2012-09-26 02:25:58 PM

big pig peaches: What if the kid liked to run around naked, as most kids do at some point? Is dad gonna go pantless too?


As noted above, this isn't clothing - or a lack of clothing - that anyone would bat an eye about in another context. His older sister wore the same exact dress. Would you have berated the dad for that?
 
2012-09-26 02:26:15 PM

Theaetetus:

... Which raises an important question: why are you thinking about the genders of children?


at a certain age the kids don't even see gender. it's weird, adults are broken.
 
2012-09-26 02:26:51 PM

Theaetetus: big pig peaches: What if the kid liked to run around naked, as most kids do at some point? Is dad gonna go pantless too?

As noted above, this isn't clothing - or a lack of clothing - that anyone would bat an eye about in another context. His older sister wore the same exact dress. Would you have berated the dad for that?


Please tell me you have no children
 
2012-09-26 02:26:52 PM
I really don't have a problem with his dress wearing. But walking around on a public street without shoes? Eewww.

Maybe Europeans don't hock-a-loogey whenever the mood strikes them.
 
2012-09-26 02:27:39 PM
Kids, at 5, don't particularly have a sexual identity. The affinity for skirts is likely, like the father supposes, the son's projection of his affinity for his older sister. I'm straight, and I remember being somewhere around 5 or 6 and wanting to try my mom's lipstick and also wanting to get my ears pierced so that I could wear earrings like my older sister. I grew out of that. Similarly, I'm pretty sure the guy's son will grow out of it too. But, on the off chance that the son doesn't and realizes that he's gay during puberty, he will know that his dad loves him and as a result will be less likely to to end up depressed and contemplating suicide. I think the father's parenting choices are right.
 
2012-09-26 02:32:31 PM

Joe Blowme: Theaetetus: big pig peaches: What if the kid liked to run around naked, as most kids do at some point? Is dad gonna go pantless too?

As noted above, this isn't clothing - or a lack of clothing - that anyone would bat an eye about in another context. His older sister wore the same exact dress. Would you have berated the dad for that?

Please tell me you have no children


Please tell me you have no children.
 
2012-09-26 02:33:40 PM
I think if I had a kid that age, I'd want to push him a little bit more towards normalcy. If he still wants to dress like a girl when he's a teenager, that's his problem. But before then, maybe he'd better just be normal until he's old enough to understand that what he's doing is unorthodox, and to understand the risk involved if people misinterpret that.

I don't know, does telling a 5 year old kid what to wear really cause any psychological scarring?
 
2012-09-26 02:38:27 PM

serial_crusher: I think if I had a kid that age, I'd want to push him a little bit more towards normalcy.


Which part is normalcy? His sister wore the same dress - was she abnormal?

If he still wants to dress like a girl when he's a teenager, that's his problem. But before then, maybe he'd better just be normal until he's old enough to understand that what he's doing is unorthodox, and to understand the risk involved if people misinterpret that.?

The risk? You're saying that people may cause this kid harm... and that it's the kid that's at fault?
 
2012-09-26 02:38:41 PM

brap: I don't remember a lot of outrage about this, I guess I visit different websites than skirtdad.

I don't go to those hateful bigot websites, I like the bastions of freedom and acceptance, namedly CatFancy.org and upskirtdad.com.


I wouldn't call it "outrage", but there was a bit of judgemental assholery
 
2012-09-26 02:41:54 PM
Och -- I thought mebbe they were kilties!
 
2012-09-26 02:42:01 PM
My three year old son likes it when his big sister (six) dresses him up in a fairy dress and high heels. He learned not to wear the heels down the stairs this year when he tried and fell down the stairs, breaking his clavicle. He definitely runs around outside our house in that dress and it cracks me up. He's a beast of a boy at 39" and 37lbs and can, and does, easily tackle his big sister. While wearing a fairy dress. I guess I'm just easily amused.
I do get pissed when my wife calls my kilt a skirt. Which, being a more modern design with removable cargo pockets and the whatnot, I guess it is more of a skilt. But I'll be damned if it isn't comfy on a hot day. Nothing prevents and alleviates swamp ass like a kilt.
 
2012-09-26 02:43:06 PM
On On!
 
2012-09-26 02:45:49 PM
i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-09-26 02:45:56 PM

give me doughnuts: blatz514: fights or poops in public

What about fighting and pooping at the same time?

Poop-fights?


Politics tab ---->
 
2012-09-26 02:47:27 PM

kindms: I guess that is one way to deal with the cross dressing son.

A friend of a friend has a young son that likes to wear dresses and dress like a girl. It kills him (the dad), the mother is ok with it and encourages it. I guess trying to deflect crap from your son is as good a way to deal with it as anything. Or I don't know act like an adult and tell your kid what to wear.

Why do parents feel the need to listen to their kids ? It isn't like these kids are elementary school aged or whatever. They wear what you tell them to wear, they wear what you put on them.

This kind of stuff was never OK when we were young. It has nothing to do with being ok with your son being gay or whatever.

If his daughter liked to dress like a whore at the same age does that mean mom is going to be OK with that ? Will mom dress like a whore to support her little one ? What if the little guy was obsessed with WWII. Is dad going to support his kid wearing a full blown SS uniform ? Somehow I think his support for his sons clothing choices have limits.

When did it become taboo to tell your kids NO ?


I'm sorry your parents didn't love you.

/tell your kids no over important things
//making them good little robots is good for business, not the world
///want a cookie? They're fresh!
 
2012-09-26 02:47:46 PM

Theaetetus: kindms: I guess that is one way to deal with the cross dressing son.

A friend of a friend has a young son that likes to wear dresses and dress like a girl. It kills him (the dad), the mother is ok with it and encourages it. I guess trying to deflect crap from your son is as good a way to deal with it as anything. Or I don't know act like an adult and tell your kid what to wear.

Or, I don't know, act like an adult and not get hung up over gender insecurity because your child likes wearing clothing A instead of clothing B? Oh, wait, that's what he did do.


If his daughter liked to dress like a whore at the same age does that mean mom is going to be OK with that ? Will mom dress like a whore to support her little one ? What if the little guy was obsessed with WWII. Is dad going to support his kid wearing a full blown SS uniform ? Somehow I think his support for his sons clothing choices have limits.

Your analogy fails. The kid is wearing a dress. Other kids that age wear the same exact dress, and it's not inappropriate. His older sister wore the very same dress, in fact. You have no problem with the clothing itself, unlike an SS uniform (nice Godwin, btw). No, instead, you're somehow terrified and outraged that a child is wearing an item of clothing that any other child could reasonably wear and you wouldn't bat an eye, if they had a different gender.

... Which raises an important question: why are you thinking about the genders of children?


Actually I didn't bring up gender at all. I simply made the argument that this father support his sons abnormal dress for a boy would in fact have limits, so his argument about supporting his son falls apart.

If it wasn't inappropriate, then why does the father feel the need to protect his son ? Obviously society at large deems men wearing womens clothing to be inappropriate. Even most gay men still dress like men.

My experience with this is as such. "Now so and so is coming over with their kids. Ya ok so ? well you see so and so's kids likes to dress like a girl. Ya ok. Well we are just letting everyone know so you aren't surprised etc."

I'm not outraged or terrified that a child is wearing a dress or whatever. It isn't my kid, but a dad shouting to the world I wear a dress to support my son is kind of open to snark.
 
2012-09-26 02:49:10 PM
The kid will probably grow out of it in a year. Who cares?
 
2012-09-26 02:49:59 PM
he's just skirting the problem. and no i didn't even bother reading the article.
 
2012-09-26 02:51:06 PM
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me.
 
2012-09-26 02:54:59 PM

kindms: Actually I didn't bring up gender at all. I simply made the argument that this father support his sons abnormal dress for a boy would in fact have limits, so his argument about supporting his son falls apart.


/facepalm
 
2012-09-26 02:58:29 PM

Kazan: idiots are everywhere.. ignore them


or, rock a kilt. that way the reactionary gender roles morons are easy to shut up.

/kilts rock


love my Utilikilt.
/but people do look at me funny
//"Oh look... a fat guy in a kilt"

Link
 
2012-09-26 02:58:39 PM
media.osv.org
Nothing new. There are galleries full of family portraitists just like this at Old Sturbridge Village. All 5 are male children.
 
2012-09-26 02:58:46 PM

She comes in colors everywhere: me.


That's not a kilt that's a quilt!!!
 
2012-09-26 02:59:59 PM

BronyMedic: It's not a skirt you asshole, it's a kilt!


A kilt is a skirt, by definition.
 
2012-09-26 03:00:22 PM

Theaetetus: kindms: Actually I didn't bring up gender at all. I simply made the argument that this father support his sons abnormal dress for a boy would in fact have limits, so his argument about supporting his son falls apart.

/facepalm


that was in response to your assertion about it being acceptable for a girl of the same age to wear the dress. So facepalm all you want, I didn't raise the gender identity issue until responding to you.
 
2012-09-26 03:04:42 PM

Theaetetus: Which part is normalcy? His sister wore the same dress - was she abnormal?


Nobody is really biting on your leading question.

But surely you can comprehend that men wearing dresses is considered abnormal as far as style goes. Not necessarily immoral or wrong, but outside of mainstream.
 
2012-09-26 03:05:54 PM

Theaetetus: Other kids that age wear the same exact dress


So, I find it odd that you mention that the other kids are his age. Is there any clothing that you would consider age-inappropriate?

Like, if he was wearing fishnet stockings, a miniskirt, stripper boots, etc? Cause all the feminists on that "slut walk" said it was appropriate for them to dress like that. Probably also appropriate for children of any gender?
 
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