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(YouTube)   For the furry who has everything, a mind controlled tail. Nuke it from orbit   (youtube.com) divider line 46
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2012-09-26 10:33:25 AM
I suddenly have a Doctor Octopus sexual cos-play idea I need to patent.
 
2012-09-26 11:00:42 AM
Needed the Walken tag.
 
2012-09-26 11:04:31 AM
Hm... At Dragon*Con this year, some friends of mine brought cat-ear head pieces that appeared to do something similar. I was too drunk to really ask the right questions at the time, since it is tangentially related to some research I'm doing currently (on empathy and theory of mind - how people perceive and interpret the feelings and intentions of others), but this video reminded me of that. So I guess I have some weird things to start looking up now.

But I am incredibly interested in this alleged "neuro app". THAT seems unbelievable, unless it's more of a physiological measure in the device, like GSR or heart rate or something. At which point, it's only a proxy (only a moderately good one at that) for any indicators of mood unless it is specifically calibrated for each user and each specific mood they want the tail to exhibit.
 
Zel
2012-09-26 11:15:58 AM

Kome: But I am incredibly interested in this alleged "neuro app". THAT seems unbelievable, unless it's more of a physiological measure in the device, like GSR or heart rate or something. At which point, it's only a proxy (only a moderately good one at that) for any indicators of mood


Note they always put "mood" in airquotes throughout the video. I've seen similar devices and they tend to pick up heartrate or other overt signals.
 
2012-09-26 11:18:24 AM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-09-26 11:19:12 AM
i277.photobucket.com

Approves
 
2012-09-26 11:21:18 AM
Have we purified the thread yet?

*scans thread*

Oh, I see that we have. Carry on.
 
2012-09-26 11:22:56 AM
ccom.ucsd.edu

/Can't have nice things, etc.
 
2012-09-26 11:28:31 AM

Guuberre: [ccom.ucsd.edu image 500x371]

/Can't have nice things, etc.


What's wrong with kitty's nose?
 
2012-09-26 11:28:34 AM

Zel: Kome: But I am incredibly interested in this alleged "neuro app". THAT seems unbelievable, unless it's more of a physiological measure in the device, like GSR or heart rate or something. At which point, it's only a proxy (only a moderately good one at that) for any indicators of mood

Note they always put "mood" in airquotes throughout the video. I've seen similar devices and they tend to pick up heartrate or other overt signals.


The thing is, the company also has a cat ears product that they claim does something similar, again by reading brain waves. I would be more inclined to believe it for that, since the ears go on top of the head and you could theoretically have a very small and incredibly limited channel EEG in there... although the main obstacle at that point is how to limit the intense amount of noise that would be introduced just by walking - although I suppose for a commercial product that is cutesy it doesn't matter as long as it picks up something. But unless this tail product comes with something you put on your head as well (which would have been covered up by the young woman's hat), that was an incredibly outrageous claim to make for this tail piece.

Of course, now I'm off to spend more time than I probably should researching the hell out of these products, the companies that make them, and so on. A lot of what can be found on the respective company websites is too outlandish and I really don't like that. Some of these things might actually make good research tools around the lab or these might just be incredibly sophisticated shams that just use tech that we've already had for years to imitate something fancy and cutting edge.
 
2012-09-26 11:28:43 AM
Yiff in hell.
 
2012-09-26 11:30:22 AM

JohnAnnArbor: Guuberre: [ccom.ucsd.edu image 500x371]

/Can't have nice things, etc.

What's wrong with kitty's nose?


You got me, but that is one SERIOUSLY pissed off cat.
 
2012-09-26 11:33:17 AM

Zel: Kome: But I am incredibly interested in this alleged "neuro app". THAT seems unbelievable, unless it's more of a physiological measure in the device, like GSR or heart rate or something. At which point, it's only a proxy (only a moderately good one at that) for any indicators of mood

Note they always put "mood" in airquotes throughout the video. I've seen similar devices and they tend to pick up heartrate or other overt signals.


Notice that both people in the video are wearing big chunky hats. My guess is a smaller version of this:
cache.kotaku.com
 
2012-09-26 11:33:56 AM
Yep, I'm right:
neurowear.com
 
2012-09-26 11:37:35 AM

Kome: The thing is, the company also has a cat ears product that they claim does something similar, again by reading brain waves. I would be more inclined to believe it for that, since the ears go on top of the head and you could theoretically have a very small and incredibly limited channel EEG in there... although the main obstacle at that point is how to limit the intense amount of noise that would be introduced just by walking - although I suppose for a commercial product that is cutesy it doesn't matter as long as it picks up something. But unless this tail product comes with something you put on your head as well (which would have been covered up by the young woman's hat), that was an incredibly outrageous claim to make for this tail piece.


You could also do it with a piezoelectric sensor in a butt plug. You could pick up involuntary clenching due to fear or surprise.

/what?
 
2012-09-26 11:40:44 AM

Zeppelininthesky: [i277.photobucket.com image 396x300]

Approves


Came for Barfolomew, leaving satisfied.
 
2012-09-26 11:43:05 AM
yeah... uhm.


I've never needed a bunch of electronics and friendware apps for my mood to cause my tail to become erect...
 
2012-09-26 11:53:57 AM
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-09-26 11:57:33 AM

Zeppelininthesky: [i277.photobucket.com image 396x300]

Approves


Huh? Oh, look, it's got a mind of its own, sweetheart. I can't do a thing with it.
 
2012-09-26 11:57:41 AM
Hell is a huge ring of tranny furries yiffing.
 
2012-09-26 11:58:20 AM
Speechless
 
2012-09-26 12:04:00 PM

Caelistis: Hell is a huge ring of tranny furries yiffing.


And weebs fapping furiously over this video.
 
2012-09-26 12:04:08 PM
I think its kinda cute.

/Weird, but cute.
 
2012-09-26 12:07:49 PM

Yomoxu:


Every day Fark becomes a little more like /b/, and that makes me sad.
 
2012-09-26 12:08:37 PM
So... outrage?
 
2012-09-26 12:21:35 PM
 
2012-09-26 12:30:52 PM
One of these girls approves. The other doesn't.

pantsudaisuki.files.wordpress.com

/Hot
//in more ways than one
///maybe.
 
2012-09-26 12:34:25 PM

Guuberre: JohnAnnArbor: Guuberre: [ccom.ucsd.edu image 500x371]

/Can't have nice things, etc.

What's wrong with kitty's nose?

You got me, but that is one SERIOUSLY pissed off cat.


... as you can tell by his nose, among other things. There's most probably nothing wrong with his nose, and it's a rather low-res pic.
 
2012-09-26 01:22:05 PM

Guuberre: [ccom.ucsd.edu image 500x371]

/Can't have nice things, etc.


Noseplug. Maybe he still gets water up it when he submerges.
 
2012-09-26 01:30:18 PM
Everyone should be glad they don't have a tail. For a designer it'd be a living nightmare. Kids pulling pranks could get other kids in the hospital with spinal injury. Accidents out the ass, literally. porn would be interesting though.
 
2012-09-26 01:46:07 PM
in the past these things reacted to changes in body temperature, remember the mood ring?


my mom had a lower body temperature, I have a higher one, she always had the "bad mood" color, mine was always the "up mood"

I suspect this works similarly. if it detects heart beat people in great shape will have no results, but people in crappy shape will.
 
2012-09-26 01:47:58 PM
I watched a model wearing a set of the ears start to talk to a dumping looking guy at GDC. The ears went right down. I was amused.
 
2012-09-26 01:57:50 PM

Kome: Zel: Kome: But I am incredibly interested in this alleged "neuro app". THAT seems unbelievable, unless it's more of a physiological measure in the device, like GSR or heart rate or something. At which point, it's only a proxy (only a moderately good one at that) for any indicators of mood

Note they always put "mood" in airquotes throughout the video. I've seen similar devices and they tend to pick up heartrate or other overt signals.

The thing is, the company also has a cat ears product that they claim does something similar, again by reading brain waves. I would be more inclined to believe it for that, since the ears go on top of the head and you could theoretically have a very small and incredibly limited channel EEG in there... although the main obstacle at that point is how to limit the intense amount of noise that would be introduced just by walking - although I suppose for a commercial product that is cutesy it doesn't matter as long as it picks up something. But unless this tail product comes with something you put on your head as well (which would have been covered up by the young woman's hat), that was an incredibly outrageous claim to make for this tail piece.

Of course, now I'm off to spend more time than I probably should researching the hell out of these products, the companies that make them, and so on. A lot of what can be found on the respective company websites is too outlandish and I really don't like that. Some of these things might actually make good research tools around the lab or these might just be incredibly sophisticated shams that just use tech that we've already had for years to imitate something fancy and cutting edge.


Thanks, I thought it might be the "ears" company.

Wonder where the tail plugs in.

/giggity
 
2012-09-26 02:02:25 PM

Caelistis: Hell is a huge ring of tranny furries yiffing.


i18.photobucket.com

No, it isn't.
 
2012-09-26 02:17:09 PM
I think it'd be cool (and possibly a little creepy) if the tail and the ears could be packaged together, running on the same headset thingy.

/not a (serious) furry
//just likes weird Japanese gadgets
 
2012-09-26 02:32:30 PM
Reads brainwaves. Had some fun connecting a more primitive version of the stuff to my music studio, a friend helped. Was able to get music out of a dream. Lots of fun...
 
2012-09-26 03:00:45 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Guuberre: [ccom.ucsd.edu image 500x371]

/Can't have nice things, etc.

What's wrong with kitty's nose?


Go look in the mirror and make an angry face and be sure to scrunch up your nose.

Now see what happened there?

This isn't rocket surgery. Yeesh...
 
2012-09-26 03:01:34 PM
And I thought the girl in the video was retarded?
 
2012-09-26 04:33:18 PM

Fano: Needed the Walken tag.


 
2012-09-26 05:13:19 PM

blahpers: Fano: Needed the Walken tag.


Picture get eaten?

Jay Mohr and Walkens tail

/just in case my post seemed crazy
//like Walken
 
2012-09-26 05:28:20 PM

Theaetetus: You could also do it with a piezoelectric sensor in a butt plug. You could pick up involuntary clenching due to fear or surprise./what?


there's probably a market for that

I'm not starting drawings until I get a PO
 
2012-09-26 05:30:35 PM

Fano: blahpers: Fano: Needed the Walken tag.

Picture get eaten?

Jay Mohr and Walkens tail

/just in case my post seemed crazy
//like Walken


Just repeating for affirmation and emphasis. Thanks for the link, though.
 
2012-09-26 06:25:15 PM
For those of us with a fetish for catgirls in schoolgirl outfits, this is awesome.

/fap
 
2012-09-26 07:15:50 PM
 
2012-09-26 08:15:32 PM
 
2012-09-27 01:29:38 PM

Kome: Hm... At Dragon*Con this year, some friends of mine brought cat-ear head pieces that appeared to do something similar. I was too drunk to really ask the right questions at the time, since it is tangentially related to some research I'm doing currently (on empathy and theory of mind - how people perceive and interpret the feelings and intentions of others), but this video reminded me of that. So I guess I have some weird things to start looking up now.

But I am incredibly interested in this alleged "neuro app". THAT seems unbelievable, unless it's more of a physiological measure in the device, like GSR or heart rate or something. At which point, it's only a proxy (only a moderately good one at that) for any indicators of mood unless it is specifically calibrated for each user and each specific mood they want the tail to exhibit.


Same company that makes the ears. Don't know about the tail, but pretty sure the ears keyed off the "focusing/not focusing" brainwave thing all these gimmicks do. Focusing causes the neurons in certain parts of the brain to fire in unison, which must be at least somewhat detectable from the forehead electrode/ear clip ground the ears use. I'd imagine the tail has something similar; it's no accident they're wearing hats in the video. For "mood" maybe some combination of heart rate, focus, etc.

The tail idea itself is unremarkable (everyone suggests it after seeing the ears), but the idea of a networked app that tallies biometric data like that is sort of interesting. There's some interesting stuff you can do with it. Though I suppose the obvious application would be doing things like seeing which window displays within a mall lead to the most "interest" or whatever. I mean, a heat map of how happy or sad an area is historically is just a cool idea.
 
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