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2012-09-26 12:39:55 AM  
It's a good question.

A woman I work with, was complaining to me about her ten year old daughter was getting as fat as she is, (the co-worker is farking hippo sized btw) and despite not wanting to get involved in the conversation. I asked, "well, you could control what she eats right?"

She just threw up her arms, and was like, "there's not much I can do"

I didn't say it, but I wanted to whack her across her face and say "You're the parent, try setting an example for your daughter. Make her exercise, eat right and help her loose weight."
 
2012-09-26 12:42:52 AM  
 
2012-09-26 12:52:24 AM  

strangeluck: A woman I work with


Quite a few reasons...first is that women are working, and not spending 3-5 hours a day shopping and making food. Also, fast food is what the parents have been brought up on..and portion sizes have increased. And after a hard days work, the parents don't feel like fighting with the kids or doing the 'fine, you don't like it...off to bed with you---no tv, no snacks. Kids also don't get enough exercise even compared to 25 years ago..where they'd ride bikes in the 'burbs...or mow grass for pocket money. They're on the 'net or plugged into video game pacifiers.
 
2012-09-26 12:54:07 AM  
I thought it was because they simply could not say no to their own child. Killing them with love.
 
2012-09-26 01:06:35 AM  

optikeye: strangeluck: A woman I work with

Quite a few reasons...first is that women are working, and not spending 3-5 hours a day shopping and making food. Also, fast food is what the parents have been brought up on..and portion sizes have increased. And after a hard days work, the parents don't feel like fighting with the kids or doing the 'fine, you don't like it...off to bed with you---no tv, no snacks. Kids also don't get enough exercise even compared to 25 years ago..where they'd ride bikes in the 'burbs...or mow grass for pocket money. They're on the 'net or plugged into video game pacifiers.


I understand what you mean, but it sounds more like an excuse than a reason, Plenty of working moms out there who do what they can to keep their kids healthy.
 
2012-09-26 01:06:37 AM  
More because they can't say no to themselves with an ounce of self control, how the hell are they supposed to take over and tell a child no (you know, their jobs).
 
2012-09-26 01:09:04 AM  
I like how they always make fun of Americans being fatasses, but they have the same earthquaking problem.
 
2012-09-26 01:38:22 AM  

optikeye: Also, fast food is what the parents have been brought up on


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2012-09-26 01:46:55 AM  

fusillade762: optikeye: Also, fast food is what the parents have been brought up on

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/oblig


Looks like the Michelin man's offspring.

/Also wonder if that kid is even still alive now, damn, to be that big at such a young age.
 
2012-09-26 01:49:56 AM  
There are a multitude of reasons. It is not a single issue.

Split families
two working parents
kids dont play outside like they used to
kids dont walk home from school like they used to
school lunches are less healthy
dinners at home are less healthy
some of it is biological

I remember as a kid there was one (1) McDonalds in my town. There are now at least six. Along with a multitude of other fast food places. I read a study previously about how feast and famine periods effect genetics. I'll look for it -it was real interesting; out of Norway, or Sweden I think.
 
2012-09-26 02:00:20 AM  

Frederick: There are a multitude of reasons. It is not a single issue.

Split families
two working parents
kids dont play outside like they used to
kids dont walk home from school like they used to
school lunches are less healthy
dinners at home are less healthy
some of it is biological

I remember as a kid there was one (1) McDonalds in my town. There are now at least six. Along with a multitude of other fast food places. I read a study previously about how feast and famine periods effect genetics. I'll look for it -it was real interesting; out of Norway, or Sweden I think.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96verkalix_study
 
2012-09-26 04:16:16 AM  
Children these days are less and less sexy!
 
2012-09-26 04:18:16 AM  
I wanna be fat so I can eat.
 
2012-09-26 04:21:38 AM  

CavalierEternal: FATTY THREAD!


congratulations, that is the worst thing produced by humanity, ever. I need to go look at some concentration camp photos to lighten my mood.

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2012-09-26 04:25:51 AM  
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2012-09-26 04:26:46 AM  
You know you have a problem when you're on vacation to the US and manage to feel fat.
Damn.


strangeluck:
Looks like the Michelin man's offspring.

/Also wonder if that kid is even still alive now, damn, to be that big at such a young age.


It's from a story in Eastern Europe about kids training to be sumo wrestlers, so make of it what you will.
 
2012-09-26 04:29:51 AM  
Because they are terrible parents.
 
2012-09-26 04:31:57 AM  
I use real butter and bacon grease when I cook.

we're all fairly skinny people though because most it isn't processed or out of a box

and we're too poor to buy fast food.

broccoli, olive oil, and garlic in the oven for 20 minutes? yes, please.
 
2012-09-26 04:32:02 AM  

one small post for man: Because they are terrible parents.


This, nothing more whether they like it or not. If your kid is fat it is your fault. Deal with it.
 
2012-09-26 05:06:41 AM  
That blows my mind that the one kid is 127kg. If it's 2.2#/kg, that's like nearly 280#. The kid waaaaay outweighs me and I'm a chub butt right now.

I honestly do think a lot of it has to do with lack of exercise. I only use real cream, butter, full fat cheese, etc., but my weight is usually pretty much under control because I work the back of the house in restaurants. High energy stuff, so I get plenty of exercise. My weight has gone up since the restaurant I was working at closed, but I know I'll lose it again the minute I find a new cooking job, so it doesn't bother me too much. That's key for me, the exercise. I already know I'm not going to change my eating habits so I really do need to stay active or some day they'll have to cut a hole in the side of the house to haul my bloated corpse out and bury me in a piano case or shipping container.
 
2012-09-26 05:10:52 AM  

fusillade762: optikeye: Also, fast food is what the parents have been brought up on

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/oblig


He's probably dead by now. Think about that.

Maybe that's what Fat Coworker (referenced above) needs to see.
 
2012-09-26 05:15:03 AM  

strangeluck: fusillade762: optikeye: Also, fast food is what the parents have been brought up on

[cdn.hivehealthmedia.com image 500x346]

/oblig

Looks like the Michelin man's offspring.

/Also wonder if that kid is even still alive now, damn, to be that big at such a young age.


Oops, sorry, didn't bother to read ahead. I suck.

Interesting, though, that we use such euphemisms as "big," rather than using a more descriptive, honest word. I'm not interested in shaming a child, but he's not reading this. So: He's not big, he's fat.

Poor kid. farking negligent parents.
 
2012-09-26 05:24:42 AM  
Oh wait...

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2012-09-26 05:42:20 AM  
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2012-09-26 06:05:47 AM  
I'm the active type. I love running, hiking and being out doors. I just have to move. When my kids hit grade school they got into all sorts of activities, soccer, basketball, scouts and so forth. This really ate into my time to be active so I started giving my kids candy and plopping them in front of the tv. Sure they have put on a few pounds but they have a life time to take it off and get fit, I did it
 
2012-09-26 06:10:44 AM  
I have the opposite problem with my kids. They are underweight because they refuse to eat anything. Oh they'll whine for chicken nuggets or pizza when we give them a nice plate of roast chicken, potatoes and veggies but we've gotten pretty desensitized to it and have used the "That's your dinner, eat it or don't eat it." line more times than I can count this month.

/It's all undone when they visit the grandparents though, they get spoiled rotten
 
2012-09-26 06:15:11 AM  

MoeSzyslak: one small post for man: Because they are terrible parents.

This, nothing more whether they like it or not. If your kid is fat it is your fault. Deal with it.


Having a kid is a huge responsibility. If your not prepared to give up pretty much everything you enjoy to have a baby, then don't have kids.
And parents, we have to stop pushing our choice on our childless friends. Just the opposite, let them know the truth. Having a baby consumes your life; your time, your money, your sleep, and sometimes your sanity. Lets not push our choice on our friends.
 
2012-09-26 06:18:40 AM  

optikeye: And after a hard days work,


I think this is a major factor. There was a 50 year period or so in western civilization where life in our culture wasn't as centered on materialism as it is now. A standard, routine 8-hour workweek used to be the norm, and if it didn't get done in that time, it could wait until the next day; now that idea might be thought of as a pipe dream from halcyon days when the psychological needs of human beings came first before doing what it takes at all costs to make a business consume everything it can. You're viewed as lazy if you're not putting in 10 or 12 productive hours a day in many workplaces. I've heard that very sentiment on an NPR segment, and another on the fact that the standard practice of pure down time for lunch breaks is also waning. Etc. Both mother and father are often working beyond 2500 hours per year. We get home and lower tiers of Maslow's hierarchy need to be met.

I understand what you mean, but it sounds more like an excuse than a reason, Plenty of working moms out there who do what they can to keep their kids healthy.

Sure, the odd gem in the rough can handle it, but as you can see, in general most of us are lacking.

Couple our culture's crazed workaholic tendencies with the recent availability of cheap, abundant processed nasty food, and furthermore with its cheap, abundant unbelievably awesome (compared to just 20 years ago) electronic sedentary entertainment, and voila! Fatness ensues.

The period between WWII and what? The 1990s? That was THE window of time to be a human being in our species' history, in western civilization, so long as you were born in the "right" neighborhood...
 
2012-09-26 06:39:12 AM  
live fat, die young, leave a fat looking corpse.
 
2012-09-26 06:43:27 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

Also, came here for Buffalo Bill reference. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-09-26 06:55:39 AM  
I wish someone would do a study to see if there's correlation between parents who monitor/limit their kids TV and video game time and fat kids.

Being sedentary is more of a problem than food intake. If you let your kid sit down in front of a TV or a video game for 5 hours a day they will get fat. If you make them run around and play and be active, I think they are less likely to be fat.

It ain't rocket surgery!
 
2012-09-26 06:56:48 AM  

BigBooper: MoeSzyslak: one small post for man: Because they are terrible parents.

This, nothing more whether they like it or not. If your kid is fat it is your fault. Deal with it.

Having a kid is a huge responsibility. If your not prepared to give up pretty much everything you enjoy to have a baby, then don't have kids.
And parents, we have to stop pushing our choice on our childless friends. Just the opposite, let them know the truth. Having a baby consumes your life; your time, your money, your sleep, and sometimes your sanity. Lets not push our choice on our friends.


I concur. This guy is right. Unless you're there, you don't know. And again IF YOUR KIDS ARE FAT IT IS YOUR FAULT. My kid shouldn't have less choices because you suck at feeding your kid. My kid will eat whatever I allow and your bad decisions shouldn't have nothing to do with it. "PB&J all day I don't care what yous say".  Look down at me all you want. At least my kids aren't fat.
 
2012-09-26 07:02:30 AM  
Certain foods are an addiction and just like any other addictive substance, can be overcome. If you throw away "conventional wisdom" and get the proper information, permanent weight-loss can happen, along with regaining your health.

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2012-09-26 07:18:44 AM  
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/has a friend who complains about her weight constantly, then posts that she had a blue slushy and Moose Tracks ice cream for breakfast.
her timeline reads like this

9:00 I need to start exercsing my clothes are getting tight
9:20 Going to Bojangles for a chicken biscuit anyone wanna roll with me?
9:35 Bogo yeah! I love free food!
11:00 Whats everyone doing for lunch?
1:30 Im thinking Chilis for dinner, anyone interested.
2:45 going to Scheetz for gas and a milkshake! I love their shake machine!
4:00 Heather and Brittany are down for Chilis, we'll be there at 5:30 if you're coming
9:00 Had a great time with my girls, we went to Coldstone Creamery too its sooooo good
10:00 I need to start exercsing my clothes are getting tight.
 
2012-09-26 07:30:54 AM  

phillyguy1547: Being sedentary is more of a problem than food intake. If you let your kid sit down in front of a TV or a video game for 5 hours a day they will get fat. If you make them run around and play and be active, I think they are less likely to be fat.


That's a lifestyle correlation. Generally, parents who take an active role in raising their kids raise healthier kids, period. This happens even if "active" is some sort of hyper-religious nuck fugget brainwashing their crotchfruit about the evils of seafood or whatever. Kids can't self-destruct if they're closely supervised. It's actually hard to get a kid fat because they have fast metabolisms and smaller stomachs. The parents who don't give a shiat are the ones who put Mountain Dew in the baby bottle and it's all downhill from there; if the kid's sedentary it's often because they're given nothing to do but that alone doesn't make kids fat.

MoeSzyslak: Unless you're there, you don't know.


Thing is, I've never heard of a case where a kid got fat merely because the parents were lazy or exhausted. In households where the kids get fat, the home itself is a horrific mountain if fail. Sugar is everywhere. The kid is given free, unrestricted access to everything from ice cream to soda, any time of the day. It's not so much that there isn't a single vegetable in the fridge (tho that doesn't help) as it's damn near impossible to find something that isn't junk food. It's all the kid has to eat.
 
2012-09-26 07:55:20 AM  
I'm going with a massive conspiracy perpetrated by scooter companies.
 
2012-09-26 08:02:56 AM  
i have a cousin who is about 20 years old now and he must weight 300 pounds. he's enormous. his mother (my aunt) is not the most caring or understanding parent in the world, so i could point to his white trash upbringing as the source of his weight problem. but the thing is, he's not an only child. his sister is about 22 or so and she is thin and healthy, and his younger brother is 18 or so and he's normal size, maybe just a bit overweight. they all have the same mother and father and were raised the same, so why is he so gigantic and his siblings aren't? i don't get it.
 
2012-09-26 08:10:18 AM  

CavalierEternal: FATTY THREAD!


that is absolutely horrifying. Excuse me while I go and curl up in the fetal position and cry in the shower.
 
2012-09-26 08:10:56 AM  

enderthexenocide: i have a cousin who is about 20 years old now and he must weight 300 pounds. he's enormous. his mother (my aunt) is not the most caring or understanding parent in the world, so i could point to his white trash upbringing as the source of his weight problem. but the thing is, he's not an only child. his sister is about 22 or so and she is thin and healthy, and his younger brother is 18 or so and he's normal size, maybe just a bit overweight. they all have the same mother and father and were raised the same, so why is he so gigantic and his siblings aren't? i don't get it.


Gee I don't know, food?
 
2012-09-26 08:12:40 AM  

dragonchild: phillyguy1547: Being sedentary is more of a problem than food intake. If you let your kid sit down in front of a TV or a video game for 5 hours a day they will get fat. If you make them run around and play and be active, I think they are less likely to be fat.

That's a lifestyle correlation. Generally, parents who take an active role in raising their kids raise healthier kids, period. This happens even if "active" is some sort of hyper-religious nuck fugget brainwashing their crotchfruit about the evils of seafood or whatever. Kids can't self-destruct if they're closely supervised. It's actually hard to get a kid fat because they have fast metabolisms and smaller stomachs. The parents who don't give a shiat are the ones who put Mountain Dew in the baby bottle and it's all downhill from there; if the kid's sedentary it's often because they're given nothing to do but that alone doesn't make kids fat.

MoeSzyslak: Unless you're there, you don't know.

Thing is, I've never heard of a case where a kid got fat merely because the parents were lazy or exhausted. In households where the kids get fat, the home itself is a horrific mountain if fail. Sugar is everywhere. The kid is given free, unrestricted access to everything from ice cream to soda, any time of the day. It's not so much that there isn't a single vegetable in the fridge (tho that doesn't help) as it's damn near impossible to find something that isn't junk food. It's all the kid has to eat.


Who said anything about lazy or exhausted? Face it if a kid is fat it's the parents fault. Or are you talking about certain nonwhite kids? Apparently science doesn't apply to them and it's the government's fault, not the parents. I hate it when the government makes certain kids fat.

I'm poor so I'm fat is an American phenomenon.
Forgive me but I don't think lack of food or money is the problem .
I'd say something about priorities and culture but I'd be accused of racism so I won't.
No kid ever got fat eating like they do in certain other countries.
 
2012-09-26 08:13:54 AM  

enderthexenocide: i have a cousin who is about 20 years old now and he must weight 300 pounds. he's enormous. his mother (my aunt) is not the most caring or understanding parent in the world, so i could point to his white trash upbringing as the source of his weight problem. but the thing is, he's not an only child. his sister is about 22 or so and she is thin and healthy, and his younger brother is 18 or so and he's normal size, maybe just a bit overweight. they all have the same mother and father and were raised the same, so why is he so gigantic and his siblings aren't? i don't get it.


Different people react in different ways to the same thing. If it is down to his upbringing his siblings probably just reacted to it in a different way. Also most parents treat each child differently its often subtle but it is common.
 
2012-09-26 08:14:27 AM  

enderthexenocide: i have a cousin who is about 20 years old now and he must weight 300 pounds. he's enormous. his mother (my aunt) is not the most caring or understanding parent in the world, so i could point to his white trash upbringing as the source of his weight problem. but the thing is, he's not an only child. his sister is about 22 or so and she is thin and healthy, and his younger brother is 18 or so and he's normal size, maybe just a bit overweight. they all have the same mother and father and were raised the same, so why is he so gigantic and his siblings aren't? i don't get it.


Middle child syndrome
 
2012-09-26 08:25:45 AM  

enderthexenocide: i have a cousin who is about 20 years old now and he must weight 300 pounds. he's enormous. his mother (my aunt) is not the most caring or understanding parent in the world, so i could point to his white trash upbringing as the source of his weight problem. but the thing is, he's not an only child. his sister is about 22 or so and she is thin and healthy, and his younger brother is 18 or so and he's normal size, maybe just a bit overweight. they all have the same mother and father and were raised the same, so why is he so gigantic and his siblings aren't? i don't get it.


Genetics does play a part into metabolism.
 
2012-09-26 08:29:30 AM  

MoeSzyslak:
I'm poor so I'm fat is an American phenomenon.
Forgive me but I don't think lack of food or money is the problem .


Food is cheap in the USA and we have various aid programs(food stamps, etc) that make it a priority to get people fed. The problem is that in a lot of poorer areas, especially urban areas, people don't have access to a decent grocery store. So they're eating fast food and whatever the local 7-11 stocks. There's also cultural and educational problems: fat, unhealthy parents don't know how to feed their children a healthy diet, and if the parents are fat and unhealthy the children are unmotivated to change on their own.
 
2012-09-26 08:33:38 AM  
My cousins kid is:

12

5'2"

250

on 2 different blood pressure meds

diabetic


I figure he will be blind by 30, dead by 40
 
2012-09-26 08:44:09 AM  

enderthexenocide: i have a cousin who is about 20 years old now and he must weight 300 pounds. he's enormous. his mother (my aunt) is not the most caring or understanding parent in the world, so i could point to his white trash upbringing as the source of his weight problem. but the thing is, he's not an only child. his sister is about 22 or so and she is thin and healthy, and his younger brother is 18 or so and he's normal size, maybe just a bit overweight. they all have the same mother and father and were raised the same, so why is he so gigantic and his siblings aren't? i don't get it.


The other two are skinny because the fat one eats it all before they get a chance.
 
2012-09-26 08:53:06 AM  

Voiceofreason01: MoeSzyslak:
I'm poor so I'm fat is an American phenomenon.
Forgive me but I don't think lack of food or money is the problem .


Food is cheap in the USA and we have various aid programs(food stamps, etc) that make it a priority to get people fed. The problem is that in a lot of poorer areas, especially urban areas, people don't have access to a decent grocery store. So they're eating fast food and whatever the local 7-11 stocks. There's also cultural and educational problems: fat, unhealthy parents don't know how to feed their children a healthy diet, and if the parents are fat and unhealthy the children are unmotivated to change on their own.


This. I used to live in the downtown Sacramento area and the only grocery stores we had were the corner type stores. They are also frightfully expensive. Unless you were able and willing to make the trek out to the 'burbs you were pretty much stuck paying $7 for a small jar of peanut butter, 3/$1 ramen noodles and 2/$1 packs of cookies. Guess what most of us ate? It wasn't the peanut butter, that's for sure. There's a Safeway now down off of S street (I think, or maybe it's R), and it's right off the light rail line, but depending on what part of downtown you live in, it can still be a bit of a haul to get out there, not to mention Safeway is pretty expensive as far as grocery stores go. It's a major problem in urban areas.

/so grateful to be in the 'burbs now
 
2012-09-26 08:56:10 AM  
Same reason their pets are fat. They 'feel bad' only giving them the right amount of food. So they give them a little extra. And some treats. And five Oreos because she asked for them.

And yeah, you could be truly caring and cook a healthy meal, but you want to take the lazy and 'nice' short cut so you ordered pizza again.

And I absolutely do not believe that lack of exercise is the only problem. When you eat TWICE the calories you are supposed to, it is not easy to burn them off. When is the last time a normal person or a child burned 1000 calories through exercise??
 
2012-09-26 08:58:25 AM  

enderthexenocide: i have a cousin who is about 20 years old now and he must weight 300 pounds. he's enormous. his mother (my aunt) is not the most caring or understanding parent in the world, so i could point to his white trash upbringing as the source of his weight problem. but the thing is, he's not an only child. his sister is about 22 or so and she is thin and healthy, and his younger brother is 18 or so and he's normal size, maybe just a bit overweight. they all have the same mother and father and were raised the same, so why is he so gigantic and his siblings aren't? i don't get it.


I was a chubster, my older brother was very fit. Both my parents "struggle" with weight but only in the sense that they count calories; neither were fat when I was growing up. Why was I the huge one? Parents were divorced and both working, so we were unsupervised until about 6:30 every night. My brother'd get back from high school sports practice (football, wrestling, baseball) and make at least a meal's worth of food-- chicken fingers, tater tots, pizza, whatever. I figured that as long as I ate less than what he ate I wouldn't have any weight issues. So I was aware of calories and aware that they should be restricted to a point, but I didn't have any idea what that point was. I just figured if I ate less than my brother then I would not get fat.

Problem? He was a 14 year old boy and I was a 9 year old girl. No wonder I turned into a fatty! Fortunately for me, once he went to college I grew out of that phase.
 
2012-09-26 09:07:21 AM  

MoeSzyslak: Who said anything about lazy or exhausted?


"Unless you're there, you don't know" from a parent is code for "I'm tired". Well no shiat, but that alone doesn't make a kid fat. To make a kid fat, you have to fail spectacularly.
 
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