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2012-09-26 12:45:30 AM
I think it's fair to say that many farkers don't know what irony means either, going by the frequent misuse of the "ironic" tag.
 
2012-09-26 12:54:10 AM

Bathia_Mapes: I think it's fair to say that many farkers don't know what irony means either, going by the frequent misuse of the "ironic" tag.


Weird, isn't it? I mean, there was a very popular song about it not that long ago. It's not difficult, people.



dc615.4shared.com
 
2012-09-26 12:57:41 AM
In that it currently means fu*k all or all fu*k, up to and including "sarcastic" I'd say she was right, so go piss somewhere else.
 
2012-09-26 12:58:12 AM

Relatively Obscure: Bathia_Mapes: I think it's fair to say that many farkers don't know what irony means either, going by the frequent misuse of the "ironic" tag.

Weird, isn't it? I mean, there was a very popular song about it not that long ago. It's not difficult, people.



[dc615.4shared.com image 68x27]


lulz
 
2012-09-26 01:14:02 AM
"Attention whorish" and "ironic" are now synonyms?
 
2012-09-26 01:15:42 AM
IRONY: Cicero referred to irony as "saying one thing and meaning another." Irony comes in many forms. Verbal irony (also called sarcasm) is a trope in which a speaker makes a statement in which its actual meaning differs sharply from the meaning that the words ostensibly express. Often this sort of irony is plainly sarcastic in the eyes of the reader, but the characters listening in the story may not realize the speaker's sarcasm as quickly as the readers do. Dramatic irony (the most important type for literature) involves a situation in a narrative in which the reader knows something about present or future circumstances that the character does not know. In that situation, the character acts in a way we recognize to be grossly inappropriate to the actual circumstances, or the character expects the opposite of what the reader knows that fate holds in store, or the character anticipates a particular outcome that unfolds itself in an unintentional way. Probably the most famous example of dramatic irony is the situation facing Oedipus in the play Oedipus Rex. Situational irony (also called cosmic irony) is a trope in which accidental events occur that seem oddly appropriate, such as the poetic justice of a pickpocket getting his own pocket picked. However, both the victim and the audience are simultaneously aware of the situation in situational irony--which is not the case in dramatic irony. Probably the most famous example of situational irony is Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal, in which Swift "recommends" that English landlords take up the habit of eating Irish babies as a food staple. See also Socratic irony.
 
2012-09-26 01:16:01 AM
Still, I mean, respectfully, no thanks. I don't care to see it.
 
2012-09-26 01:27:11 AM
You mean he's not black?!?
 
2012-09-26 02:04:23 AM

fusillade762: You mean he's not black?!?


*shakes tiny fist*
 
2012-09-26 02:05:51 AM
Nope Madonna, you're still not relevant.
 
2012-09-26 02:24:32 AM
People still care what she thinks? Ugh, she's such an asshole.
 
2012-09-26 02:46:06 AM

Bathia_Mapes: I think it's fair to say that many farkers don't know what irony means either, going by the frequent misuse of the "ironic" tag.


Don't you think?
 
2012-09-26 03:14:39 AM
fabnob.com.au
"I'm like, wearing it to be ironic, duh, cuz she's like, irrelevant now."
 
2012-09-26 03:16:23 AM
Irony is like rain on your wedding day. I don't see how that's like a black muslim. Is it because that muslim guy sang chocolate rain?
 
2012-09-26 03:18:46 AM

ox45tallboy: [fabnob.com.au image 360x480]
"I'm like, wearing it to be ironic, duh, cuz she's like, irrelevant now."


Heh. I'd give anything for Madonna to somehow click her way into this thread and see that comment.
 
2012-09-26 03:20:45 AM
static.nme.com
♪ "It's like a black man.... in the white house...." ♫
 
2012-09-26 03:23:41 AM

DeltaPunch: Heh. I'd give anything for Madonna to somehow click her way into this thread and see that comment.


i113.photobucket.com
"Look, Madge, it's that ox45tallboy bloke again with the captions! And he called you irrelevant!"
 
2012-09-26 03:28:37 AM
Attention whorish? Duh, this *is* Madge we're talking about.

That said, I think it's rather brave and somewhat noble of her to talk Obama up during her tour. I've never really subscribed to that "shut up and sing" thing where people act mortally offended because someone with a little limelight chose to share it with a cause they believed in. If anything I'm more offended by celebrities who take the safe road of being patently inoffensive in order not to alienate.

I realize I'm in the minority on that one but I know I'm right so fark anyone who thinks different.
 
2012-09-26 03:30:10 AM
Two comments:

1) Reverend Wright
2) Secret Muslim

0bama's gonna lose in November.
 
2012-09-26 03:34:41 AM

statisticals: Two comments:

1) Reverend Wright
2) Secret Muslim

0bama's gonna lose in November.


We're probably on the same side, and even I think you're boring and unfunny. Stop. Just stop.
 
2012-09-26 03:35:01 AM

quatchi: That said, I think it's rather brave and somewhat noble of her to talk Obama up during her tour. I've never really subscribed to that "shut up and sing" thing where people act mortally offended because someone with a little limelight chose to share it with a cause they believed in. If anything I'm more offended by celebrities who take the safe road of being patently inoffensive in order not to alienate.


I was in Phillips Arena when the stencil on the bottom debuted in 2008:

synthesis.net


He caught a lot of flack for making a statement about American politics, but do any of us in America have a problem with American performers showing support for Pussy Riot, which are a symbol of a Russian political movement?
 
2012-09-26 03:45:20 AM
Seriously. Does anyone care what Madonna or Ted Nugent have to say about politics? Does this really sway their choice? God, I hope not, I really do.

/Always thought she was fugly...
//Really fugly now.
 
2012-09-26 03:47:06 AM
Madonna says she was being "Ironic" when she called Obama a "Black Muslim". It's possible she doesn't know what that word means

Ironic?
Black?
Muslim?
Obama?

Can subby be less specific?
 
2012-09-26 03:52:57 AM

statisticals: Two comments:

1) Reverend Wright
2) Secret Muslim

0bama's gonna lose loose

in November.

Throw in a misspelling to look more legitimate.
 
2012-09-26 03:53:29 AM
We all know that Obama isn't a muslim, but he does admit to being black!
 
2012-09-26 03:55:56 AM

ModernLuddite: We all know that Obama isn't a muslim, but he does admit to being black!


I heard he even has two black kids somewhere.
 
2012-09-26 03:58:38 AM
As opposed to the rest of his hipster supporters, who were only being ironic when they voted for him.
 
2012-09-26 04:00:00 AM

ox45tallboy: statisticals: Two comments:

1) Reverend Wright
2) Secret Muslim

0bama's gonna lose loose in November.

Throw in a misspelling to look more legitimate.


Hey now, maybe Gary's back.
 
2012-09-26 04:01:24 AM

Gyrfalcon: Madonna says she was being "Ironic" when she called Obama a "Black Muslim". It's possible she doesn't know what that word means

Ironic?
Black?
Muslim?
Obama?

Can subby be less specific?


I think she knows what a black guy is.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-09-26 04:02:58 AM

statisticals: Two comments:

1) Reverend Wright
2) Secret Muslim

0bama's gonna lose in November.


Now that you put it that way, you might have no point, 2-day old alt account.
 
2012-09-26 04:05:37 AM

Gyrfalcon: I heard he even has two black kids somewhere.


2.bp.blogspot.com
"It better be two and only two!"
 
2012-09-26 04:14:16 AM
Madonna being a teabagger is the irony.
 
2012-09-26 04:14:52 AM
IT'S LIKE VEEE-EE-EEEEIGNS ON YOUR LOWER ARM
 
2012-09-26 04:18:52 AM

YELLOL: Madonna being a teabagger is the irony.


That's not ironic. We have the photos.

static.gigwise.com
 
2012-09-26 04:24:35 AM
Spokeschick got the verbiage right.

Responding to a media furor unleashed by the YouTube video, Madonna issued a statement on Tuesday through her spokeswoman saying her reference to Obama's religion was facetious.

She said "ironic" and meant "facetious".

Bigdogdaddy: Seriously. Does anyone care what Madonna or Ted Nugent have to say about politics?


I don't care who says it as long as it makes sense.

Even if it doesn't make any sense as in the case of Nugent I at least respect the balls it takes for an entertainer to make a political statement in today's safe to the point of being obnoxious media age when most celebs prefer to neuter themselves politically for the sake of an uninterrupted cash flow.
 
2012-09-26 04:32:47 AM

James F. Campbell: IRONY: Cicero referred to irony as "saying one thing and meaning another." Irony comes in many forms. Verbal irony (also called sarcasm) is a trope in which a speaker makes a statement in which its actual meaning differs sharply from the meaning that the words ostensibly express. Often this sort of irony is plainly sarcastic in the eyes of the reader, but the characters listening in the story may not realize the speaker's sarcasm as quickly as the readers do. Dramatic irony (the most important type for literature) involves a situation in a narrative in which the reader knows something about present or future circumstances that the character does not know. In that situation, the character acts in a way we recognize to be grossly inappropriate to the actual circumstances, or the character expects the opposite of what the reader knows that fate holds in store, or the character anticipates a particular outcome that unfolds itself in an unintentional way. Probably the most famous example of dramatic irony is the situation facing Oedipus in the play Oedipus Rex. Situational irony (also called cosmic irony) is a trope in which accidental events occur that seem oddly appropriate, such as the poetic justice of a pickpocket getting his own pocket picked. However, both the victim and the audience are simultaneously aware of the situation in situational irony--which is not the case in dramatic irony. Probably the most famous example of situational irony is Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal, in which Swift "recommends" that English landlords take up the habit of eating Irish babies as a food staple. See also Socratic irony.


My head literally exploded after reading that.
 
2012-09-26 04:36:37 AM

quatchi: Spokeschick got the verbiage right.

Responding to a media furor unleashed by the YouTube video, Madonna issued a statement on Tuesday through her spokeswoman saying her reference to Obama's religion was facetious.

She said "ironic" and meant "facetious".


So... she's like teabagging and facials. Got it.

Makes more sense, too.
 
2012-09-26 04:37:49 AM
Yes people, sarcasm is a subset of irony.
 
2012-09-26 04:39:24 AM

quatchi: Even if it doesn't make any sense as in the case of Nugent I at least respect the balls it takes for an entertainer to make a political statement in today's safe to the point of being obnoxious media age when most celebs prefer to neuter themselves politically for the sake of an uninterrupted cash flow.


There's a huge difference between making a political statement and making actual threats against those you dislike while holding a farking machine gun. I don't dislike The Nuge for his political opinion, I dislike him because he goes so far as to become irrational in his hatred for those who disagree with him politically.

Madonna didn't explain why she likes Obama more than Romney, so it's not like she provided any type of coherent argument to her fans, so she's not any better than Nugent where that is concerned. However, she didn't insinuate she would be assassinating Romney if he won the election the way Nugent did regarding Obama.
 
2012-09-26 04:43:45 AM

ox45tallboy: Madonna didn't explain why she likes Obama more than Romney, so it's not like she provided any type of coherent argument to her fans, so she's not any better than Nugent where that is concerned.


This being Madonna....

... is there a female euphemism for "don't stick your dick in crazy?"

/don't ride crazy?
//don't spread for crazy?
 
2012-09-26 04:47:08 AM

Curse of the Goth Kids: Yes people, sarcasm is a subset of irony.


THIS. It's not like she was telling people to NOT vote for the man. And if Obama can make a joke about it I think he can handle his supporters doing the same.

I'd also like to add, I'll vote for a Muslim before I voted for a Republican every time. .
 
2012-09-26 04:48:19 AM

sendtodave: James F. Campbell: IRONY: Cicero referred to irony as "saying one thing and meaning another." Irony comes in many forms. Verbal irony (also called sarcasm) is a trope in which a speaker makes a statement in which its actual meaning differs sharply from the meaning that the words ostensibly express. Often this sort of irony is plainly sarcastic in the eyes of the reader, but the characters listening in the story may not realize the speaker's sarcasm as quickly as the readers do. Dramatic irony (the most important type for literature) involves a situation in a narrative in which the reader knows something about present or future circumstances that the character does not know. In that situation, the character acts in a way we recognize to be grossly inappropriate to the actual circumstances, or the character expects the opposite of what the reader knows that fate holds in store, or the character anticipates a particular outcome that unfolds itself in an unintentional way. Probably the most famous example of dramatic irony is the situation facing Oedipus in the play Oedipus Rex. Situational irony (also called cosmic irony) is a trope in which accidental events occur that seem oddly appropriate, such as the poetic justice of a pickpocket getting his own pocket picked. However, both the victim and the audience are simultaneously aware of the situation in situational irony--which is not the case in dramatic irony. Probably the most famous example of situational irony is Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal, in which Swift "recommends" that English landlords take up the habit of eating Irish babies as a food staple. See also Socratic irony.

My head literally exploded after reading that.


I think that's ironic.
 
2012-09-26 04:54:25 AM

wippit: This being Madonna....

... is there a female euphemism for "don't stick your dick in crazy?"

/don't ride crazy?
//don't spread for crazy?


img.diynetwork.com
"Whatchu tryin' to say, yo? Cuz you know I done been up in that!"
 
2012-09-26 05:03:07 AM

ox45tallboy: There's a huge difference between making a political statement and making actual threats against those you dislike while holding a farking machine gun. I don't dislike The Nuge for his political opinion, I dislike him because he goes so far as to become irrational in his hatred for those who disagree with him politically.


I totally agree that Nuge crossed the line from free political speech to hate speech some time ago. I chose him as an extreme example to prove a point. Prolly not my best pick there. Let's go with Clint Eastwood then. Love Clint's work, hate his politics, have more respect for him for being political rather than safe. Yeah, that works better.

Madonna didn't explain why she likes Obama more than Romney, so it's not like she provided any type of coherent argument to her fans, so she's not any better than Nugent where that is concerned. However, she didn't insinuate she would be assassinating Romney if he won the election the way Nugent did regarding Obama.

She did mention the whole marriage equality rights for gays thing in TFA.

No "I have a dream" speech but better than "buy our souvenir tshirts before you go".

This all noted, this entire thread puts me in mind of the disastrous Barbra Streisand tour back in the bad ole BushCo years when she threw some painfully unfunny anti-Bush schtick into her act and caught hell for it.

THAT would be a helluva lot better example of [you'renothelping] than THIS story here.
 
2012-09-26 05:09:01 AM

quatchi: THAT would be a helluva lot better example of [you'renothelping] than THIS story here.


And there are some times when you have to understand that your fans probably don't agree with your political views, and it may cost you ticket and T-shirt sales, not to mention radio play by DJ's that don't agree with you. And it doesn't help.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-09-26 05:12:22 AM
Madonna was being sarcastic. She enjoys a joke. But the tards taking this seriously? That's the ironing.
 
2012-09-26 05:28:02 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com

It's like gold-y, or bronze-y. Except it's made of iron.
 
2012-09-26 05:31:30 AM

ox45tallboy: And there are some times when you have to understand that your fans probably don't agree with your political views, and it may cost you ticket and T-shirt sales, not to mention radio play by DJ's that don't agree with you. And it doesn't help.


In the sense that they didn't stop Bush from getting re-elected it didn't help but in terms of being one of the first to call BS on the shenanigans of that time when the corporate media were busy being apologists and cheerleaders for the war in Iraq I think they did their part in changing the zeitgeist for the positive.

End of the day the Dixie Chicks survived the tumult with both their careers and dignity intact.

The rightwing media tried blowing up a non-story into a national scandal and crushing them utterly and they failed miserably in that regard when their backlash of outrage was over shadowed by a larger wave of support thus discovering a limit to their power to silence.

There's value in that.

/Great flick, btw.
 
2012-09-26 05:33:35 AM

ox45tallboy: quatchi: That said, I think it's rather brave and somewhat noble of her to talk Obama up during her tour. I've never really subscribed to that "shut up and sing" thing where people act mortally offended because someone with a little limelight chose to share it with a cause they believed in. If anything I'm more offended by celebrities who take the safe road of being patently inoffensive in order not to alienate.

I was in Phillips Arena when the stencil on the bottom debuted in 2008:

[synthesis.net image 640x427]

He caught a lot of flack for making a statement about American politics, but do any of us in America have a problem with American performers showing support for Pussy Riot, which are a symbol of a Russian political movement?


punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com

Bill loves a Free Pussy Riot.
 
2012-09-26 05:36:48 AM
Does anyone have even half a clue why the only other story up on the Politics tab today is one with 9 comments on it in which THE THREAD IS ALREADY CLOSED?

/I'll have's wotever the mods are drinking, thanks.
//Yes, on their tab.
 
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