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(Yahoo)   Article explains why plane windows don't roll down like Mitt Romney thinks they should. The fact that gravity keeps most of the oxygen in the bottom 47% of the atmosphere is obviously a liberal conspiracy   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 41
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2012-09-25 11:23:58 AM
8 votes:

cman: Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....

Ignorance. I cannot fathom any other possibility


well...it COULD be ignorance. after all, the GOP is very anti-intellectual. But consider - Romney has lived almost his entire life in a protected bubble. nobody has ever given him honest feedback on what he sounds like, or how he actually appears to other people. if you worked for Mitt Romney and told him 'dude - stop sounding like a rich asshole' he'd probably just fire you. so everyone around him has probably just let Romney's more offensive commentary just slide. you don't correct a CEO who is on record as enjoying firing people. when you live that sort of lifestyle, you don't learn to appreciate the value people skills. Anyways - fast forward to this campaign and now everything Romney says is being reported. Having never had to stop and actually consider his words before speaking in public...Mitt is having a LOT of problems trying to not sound like an asshole.
2012-09-25 11:43:52 AM
4 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: I have never seen the main stream media act in such a blatant and hostile way to a Presidential canindate.

Yes, Romney had a slip of the brain when saying that windows should be able to lower on airplanes, but the constant hammering the media is doing with regard to this comment is sickening.

Where is the media on the administration's failure to fix the economy, its capitulation to Iran on nuclear weapons, its failure to secure a proper democracy for Egypt?


this must be very difficult for you, watching Romney slowly destroyed by his own words. I know, I know...you wanted to believe that Mitt was the golden child sent to save the Republican party's legislative agenda. But he's not a very good candidate. he's unfocused and out of touch, stumbling from gaffe to gaffe and spending time and money fixing his own mistakes rather than pushing forward against Obama. The GOP backed the wrong horse on this one...but you can console yourself by knowing that Romney WAS the best your party had to offer. everyone else would have been much, much worse.

you can try again in 2016. maybe by then you'll have someone ready for a decent campaign attempt.
2012-09-25 11:45:17 AM
3 votes:
Romney is a complete idiot who has been handed everything in his life and surrounded by yes men.
2012-09-25 11:14:39 AM
3 votes:
I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....
2012-09-25 10:42:00 AM
3 votes:
I know he was thinking of his wife and her choking on smoke, but "letting oxygen in" is the dumbest thing to do when you suspect there is a fire.
2012-09-25 10:00:01 AM
3 votes:
There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.
2012-09-25 11:59:46 AM
2 votes:

Ehh: What's the big deal? If you get sucked out an airplane window you can just go to the emergency room.


You won't even need to do that. In a legitimate falling incident, the body has ways to shut down gravity.
2012-09-25 11:59:23 AM
2 votes:
"When you have a fire in an aircraft, there's no place to go, exactly, there's no - and you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don't open. I don't know why they don't do that. It's a real problem. So it's very dangerous."

And, no, apologists, that's not humor. That's just plain stupidity.
2012-09-25 11:58:00 AM
2 votes:

Warthog: There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.


Seriously?

We have folks who believe Noah hung out with dinosaurs. We have folks that believe climate change is a hoax. We have folks that believe diluting a substance to 1 part in 1 million somehow makes it more effective. We have folks that believe there's such a concept as "legitimate rape," and that you can naturally prevent pregnancy in such cases. Our kids can't read, believe that language is a barrier to communication (so much so tht txtng iz teh kewl to write rpts), can't perform even basic math, think that because search engines exist that they just don't need to remember anything - and, increasingly, are being supported by adults who think those very same things. It's not their fault, though, because this is how the rich are ensuring the poor can't fight back - if you're too stupid, too illiterate, and too apathetic, you won't struggle or complain as much when you're told where to work and what to think.

Why are you surprised that the Republican offering for "Leader of the Free World" thinks they should've just opened the window to let the smoke out of a pressurized cabin? I'm surprised Brawndo isn't sponsoring his friggin' campaign yet.
2012-09-25 11:52:51 AM
2 votes:
For you Farkers who don't routinely work with businessmen, I can assure you that Mitt Romney is representative of the general stupidity. He is living proof that one does not need to be smart to succeed in business. One just needs an engaging personality, a reasonably good idea and some smart people to work hard and make it happen. Later, you can fark most of them over, when you sell your company to someone like Bain Capital.
2012-09-25 11:50:32 AM
2 votes:
I don't want a president who doesn't understand elementary science.
2012-09-25 11:41:07 AM
2 votes:
This is the person who might have his hand on "The Button".
2012-09-25 11:37:03 AM
2 votes:

Pantubo: Speaking of dumbasses, maybe Obama could explain this to him in Austrian.


Yeah, because a slip of the tongue/gaffe is exactly the same as not understanding basic science.
2012-09-25 11:15:48 AM
2 votes:

Warthog: There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.


Not everybody is as smart as you. Matter of fact, just the fact that you know how to use the internet, open register a user name, pay for a subscription and post in a forum puts you ahead of 47% of the country in terms of intelligence.
2012-09-26 01:47:29 PM
1 votes:

jaylectricity: Warthog: There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.

Not everybody is as smart as you. Matter of fact, just the fact that you know how to use the internet, open register a user name, pay for a subscription and post in a forum puts you ahead of 47% of the country in terms of intelligence.


and if you figure out how not to pay for a subscription, you'll make it past the other 53% as well.
2012-09-25 03:42:27 PM
1 votes:

Dimensio: gilgigamesh: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

"Partly true" because "his tone and phrasing were obviously intended to be tongue in cheek"? The hell?

If he was joking, he deadpans it. I actually was sure he was joking until I saw the video last night. Now I don't know. It's a matter of conjecture. So I don't know how Snopes purports to get inside Mitt's positronic net and make a ruling based on his intent.

A "deadpan" delivery of an intentionally humourous statement nonetheless requires appropriate inflection and wording to be appropriately understood as an effort at levity. Mr. Romney's statement lacked both the inflection and the wording of such an attempt. I am prepared to accept that Mr. Romney's statement was intended in jest, but I nonetheless maintain that it was stated improperly.




Leslie Nielsen was a master of the comedic deadpan delivery. It was the combination of the delivery with the overall context of the scene that made it hilarious.

Mitt Romney, on the other hand, was not trying to be funny.
2012-09-25 01:50:04 PM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: evaned: OK, so I watched the video. I could see someone delivering that joke in that way, even in the full context. I'm not really convinced that Romney was intending it do be one, but nor am I totally convinced he meant it seriously. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Not me...

He gave no indication he was delivering a joke, not a pause, not a change in delivery or inflection. Not even waiting for a response to the "joke" before continuing on. It was a steady, continuing flow. I'm erring on the side of the "joke" claims being bullshiat. I see no evidence that it was one, except claims by some very shrill Romney supporters who think this counts as "dry humor"... I see nothing in it that even says "I suck at jokes, but let's try one anyway".


Very few politicians have good comedic timing. Hell, very few anybody has good comedic timing.

What makes me doubt it was a joke is the fact that he kept going with it. A real "joke" would have been "Yeah, the cabin filled with smoke; too bad they couldn't roll the windows down to get some air." PERIOD. Romney kept on going and going with it, like someone genuinely trying to get why the passengers couldn't let the smoke out. Now, it may have been one of those sad jokes we've all told where you say the line, and nobody gets it, and then you keep on "You know, roll the windows down...like airplanes don't...let some air in...HEY IT'S FUNNY PEOPLE!!!" but Romney just isn't like that.
2012-09-25 01:22:33 PM
1 votes:

epoch_destroi: We just have a very dry sense of humor, almost British in style.


You're confusing "dry" with "no delivery at all". There's a difference.
2012-09-25 01:21:32 PM
1 votes:

epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: So basically...even though he told it as a joke, because he hasn't utilized sarcasm often in a public race for office, clearly he never uses it and we can never interpret his words as being humorous? Wowwwwwwww. Talk about a disconnect with reality-- you have video proof of it being a joke, and yet you insist it is not because you view him as humorless, so clearly he MUST be.

No, we have video proof of him saying it, and not a single indication at all that he meant it as a joke. The face stays the same, there's no pause to wait for a reaction from the "punchline", he doesn't laugh afterwards, he just plows straight through. There is no actual evidence that he was joking, the Snopes thing was a lot of ASSumption.

Is it seriously that hard to tell? Are libs so ignorant of dry humor? No wonder so many today's comedy shows are in the total dumps-- somebody has to be screaming "PUNCHLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!" and smashing a melon for you to get it.


Two possibilities:
1) He's joking, which means he isn't funny, and should stop, because people don't get him, and it's hurting him.
2) He's serious, which means he's a complete moron, and it terrifies me to think he'd be in charge of our nuclear arsenal.
2012-09-25 01:08:50 PM
1 votes:
You know, I actually kind of feel sorry for Mitt Romney. To begin, he really isn't that smart. He isn't "Dubya Dumb," but he's no scholar either. Next, Romney is not a conservative and never has been. He's actually a rare thing in the GOP these days: a slightly left-leaning moderate. When he threw his hat into the ring for the GOP nomination a lot of centrist Republicans and independents were please, since he offered a change to vote for someone who was not only an experienced and successful business man, but was a rather good governor. When Romney started, he really did sound like Mitt Romney: reasonable and balanced. But when it became apparent that he would be the nominee, the GOP strategists started to reel him in and insist that he embrace the tea party conservative platform. Romney has done this and it has become obvious that it has induced something of a cognitive dissonance in him. He keeps flubbing so badly because he really doesn't believe in the bullshiat he has to spew in order to placate the "GOP base." Well, the base was placated rather early on and now Romney's false conservative positions are coming back to haunt him (a la 47%). Barack Obama is now leading in every national poll of registered voters (by an average of three percent and the gap is widening rapidly) and we haven't even had the first debate yet. Those debates will be Romney's downfall. He simply cannot debate Obama on substance, since he has none. They hope is that he will be able to rattle "Mr. Cool" Obama. But that's a dim hope, since on one has succeeded in this yet.

If Romney keeps screwing up as badly as he has (he cannot afford to go safe; he must be aggressive and highly visible) and if he can't get control of his staff, to stop their in-fighting, we could be looking at an Obama mini-landslide, or at least a clear mandate. As soon as the GOP started moving him to the right, he should have bucked. This was his and John McCain's biggest mistake.
2012-09-25 12:41:43 PM
1 votes:

HideMonkey: epoch_destroi: HideMonkey: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.

See?

But because it was Romney, you all jumped on this and screamed, "There's NO WAY it could be a joke! He's a robot!"

What's more robotic-- Romney making a damn joke when he's often criticized for 'humorlessness', or the identical automatic response of libs/dems whenever he opens his mouth?

The egg's on your face, libs.

For the record, I'm neither a lib nor a dem.

I've just decided to try to enjoy our sad political theater as entertainment, and Romney has lately been providing most of the yuks. I'm equally critical of both major parties (and any other parties that might still be squirming in their obscurity).


Okay-- that's fair, and I apologize for assuming-- that made an ass out of me. ;) If you give it out equally, I can't fault you for that! :)
2012-09-25 12:17:56 PM
1 votes:

NorKnOAd: My favorite part has to be:
" Because temperature and pressure go hand-in-hand (i.e. low-pressure air feels cold), pressurization is also necessary to keep cabins sufficiently warm."

It's plain wrong, and for this to be listed on yahoo "news" makes it worse. More people will see it, and more people will be come even dumber (or hopefully laugh at this statement). If you're going to write an article about science, at least have a basic understanding of said science.

I hope the dumbass tag was for the author.


Well, it was wrong for the wrong reasons. If you take a mass of air and put that same mass in a larger volume, the temperature will indeed go down. If you take that and put it in a smaller volume, the temperature will indeed go up. It is one of the reasons why it's colder the higher you get in the atmosphere. However, they don't pressurize the planes to keep the temperature up, they do it to keep people alive. They have heaters for the temperature. The author was someone who was too busy fantasizing about the person sitting next to them in Chemistry class to understand that.
2012-09-25 12:15:27 PM
1 votes:

lohphat: Having your lungs and eyes rupture due to gasses boiling out of solution is not my idea of my final 30 seconds of life.


See, this is what I mean: that's lore that would not actually happen.

"If you don't try to hold your breath, exposure to space for half a minute or so is unlikely to produce permanent injury. Holding your breath is likely to damage your lungs, something scuba divers have to watch out for when ascending, and you'll have eardrum trouble if your Eustachian tubes are badly plugged up, but theory predicts -- and animal experiments confirm -- that otherwise, exposure to vacuum causes no immediate injury. You do not explode. Your blood does not boil. You do not freeze. You do not instantly lose consciousness."
Ask an astrophysicist

"In reality, however, animal experiments and human accidents have shown that people can likely survive exposure to vacuum conditions for at least a couple of minutes. Not that you would remain conscious long enough to rescue yourself, but if your predicament was accidental, there could be time for fellow crew members to rescue and repressurize you with few ill effects."
Scientific American
2012-09-25 12:10:37 PM
1 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: I have never seen the main stream media act in such a blatant and hostile way to a Presidential canindate.

Yes, Romney had a slip of the brain when saying that windows should be able to lower on airplanes, but the constant hammering the media is doing with regard to this comment is sickening.

Where is the media on the administration's failure to fix the economy, its capitulation to Iran on nuclear weapons, its failure to secure a proper democracy for Egypt?


epoch_destroi: FormlessOne: Why are you surprised that the Republican offering for "Leader of the Free World" thinks they should've just opened the window to let the smoke out of a pressurized cabin? I'm surprised Brawndo isn't sponsoring his friggin' campaign yet.

Wow, lay off of Romney already! I can't believe this is even a news article. Somehow, I don't think knowing the inner workings of airplane windows has much to do with LEADING THE FREE WORLD. If this news story were about Obama, you'd be fussing about FAWX NEWZ, but since it's about Romney it clearly means he's an out-of-touch moron? Shame on you.

2012-09-25 12:01:48 PM
1 votes:

JackieRabbit: For you Farkers who don't routinely work with businessmen, I can assure you that Mitt Romney is representative of the general stupidity. He is living proof that one does not need to be smart to succeed in business. One just needs an engaging personality, a reasonably good idea and some smart people to work hard and make it happen. Later, you can fark most of them over, when you sell your company to someone like Bain Capital.


THIS

I've spent too many years around executives who have no idea how the real world works and have an inflated sense of entitlement that they think anything can be done by edict.

Go see Devil Wears Prada. Merrill Streep nails the archetype perfectly.
2012-09-25 12:00:28 PM
1 votes:

GooberMcFly: This is the person who might have his hand on "The Button".


Yes, from the same party that gave us Sarah Palin.
2012-09-25 11:56:54 AM
1 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: you wanted to believe that Mitt was the golden child sent to save the Republican party's legislative agenda.

I was never a fan of Romney, my vote for him is purely and vote against the administration and their policies. I am voting FOR Paul Ryan however.

Despite my preference of another candidate, anyone who cannot see who the mainstream media is manipulating the "news" to suit is clearly not paying attention.


Yeah... reality has a well-known liberal bias.
2012-09-25 11:50:34 AM
1 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: I know he was thinking of his wife and her choking on smoke, but "letting oxygen in" is the dumbest thing to do when you suspect there is a fire.


Actually venting the roof during a house fire makes it safer to fight the fire by avoiding a build-up of heat and a resultant flashover.
2012-09-25 11:49:12 AM
1 votes:
Mitt Romney for Obama '12
2012-09-25 11:44:20 AM
1 votes:

Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....


Isn't that kinda the definition of ignorant?
2012-09-25 11:43:15 AM
1 votes:

Shadowknight: I have only read the quote, and never actually saw a video of Romney saying this. So, was he saying it humorously or sarcastically? Because even I would have done that. Or did he mean it sincerely?

Because with the other idiocy going on into the Rmoney camp lately, it could really go any which way.


As people pointed out yesterday, do you talk about being afraid for your wife's life one second, then make joke about it the next?
2012-09-25 11:42:47 AM
1 votes:

threedingers: Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.

Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke. About a potentially life threatening situation that his wife was in, and done so in his typically awkward, uncomfortable manner, but a joke nonetheless.


The wording of his statement was poor, if his statement was intended to be humourous. Additionally, I have been informed by a Utah resident (who himself is a non-Mormon but who has observed many Mormons in the area) that the Mormon church typically frowns upon levity derived from tragic or near-tragic occurrences. Whether his report is accurate, and whether Mr. Romney would abide by such a policy should one exist, I cannot say.
2012-09-25 11:40:34 AM
1 votes:

fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.


They open inwards. Good luck making that budge while the cabin is pressurized.
2012-09-25 11:38:56 AM
1 votes:
My airplane window opens.

But it won't go much above 12,000 feet, so it's not a real problem.
2012-09-25 11:38:44 AM
1 votes:

Dimensio: In fact, this information validates Mr. Romney's statement. If the plane was at an altitude where insufficient oxygen was present outside, then opening a window would have reduced the oxygen within the plane. Evidently, liberals are unaware that oxygen fuels fire, thus removing the oxygen from the plane would have extinguished any fire present.


of course it would also have killed everyone in the plane, but hey - the fire WOULD have gone out. so there's that. which is nice.
2012-09-25 11:25:09 AM
1 votes:
In fact, this information validates Mr. Romney's statement. If the plane was at an altitude where insufficient oxygen was present outside, then opening a window would have reduced the oxygen within the plane. Evidently, liberals are unaware that oxygen fuels fire, thus removing the oxygen from the plane would have extinguished any fire present.
2012-09-25 10:55:07 AM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Should have paid extra for a plane with those little drop-down emergency oxygen masks


The plane was a Bombardier Challenger 600 -- basically the baby brother of a Canadair Regional Jet. I'd be shocked if it didn't have passenger oxygen masks available.
2012-09-25 10:45:21 AM
1 votes:
Should have paid extra for a plane with those little drop-down emergency oxygen masks
2012-09-25 10:36:24 AM
1 votes:
I have only read the quote, and never actually saw a video of Romney saying this. So, was he saying it humorously or sarcastically? Because even I would have done that. Or did he mean it sincerely?

Because with the other idiocy going on into the Rmoney camp lately, it could really go any which way.
2012-09-25 10:31:09 AM
1 votes:
If the man wants a plane with windows that roll down, I'm sure he can buy it...
2012-09-25 10:24:33 AM
1 votes:
Explosive decompression is not something that pilots like. They tend to, you know, avoid it at all costs

/WATCH MAYDAY, best Air Crash TV show on the tube
 
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