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2012-09-25 10:00:01 AM  
There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.
 
2012-09-25 10:24:33 AM  
Explosive decompression is not something that pilots like. They tend to, you know, avoid it at all costs

/WATCH MAYDAY, best Air Crash TV show on the tube
 
2012-09-25 10:31:09 AM  
If the man wants a plane with windows that roll down, I'm sure he can buy it...
 
2012-09-25 10:36:24 AM  
I have only read the quote, and never actually saw a video of Romney saying this. So, was he saying it humorously or sarcastically? Because even I would have done that. Or did he mean it sincerely?

Because with the other idiocy going on into the Rmoney camp lately, it could really go any which way.
 
2012-09-25 10:42:00 AM  
I know he was thinking of his wife and her choking on smoke, but "letting oxygen in" is the dumbest thing to do when you suspect there is a fire.
 
2012-09-25 10:45:21 AM  
Should have paid extra for a plane with those little drop-down emergency oxygen masks
 
2012-09-25 10:55:07 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Should have paid extra for a plane with those little drop-down emergency oxygen masks


The plane was a Bombardier Challenger 600 -- basically the baby brother of a Canadair Regional Jet. I'd be shocked if it didn't have passenger oxygen masks available.
 
2012-09-25 10:58:36 AM  

Warthog: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Should have paid extra for a plane with those little drop-down emergency oxygen masks

The plane was a Bombardier Challenger 600 -- basically the baby brother of a Canadair Regional Jet. I'd be shocked if it didn't have passenger oxygen masks available.


Can you still smell sarcasm with one of those things on?
 
2012-09-25 11:03:22 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Warthog: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Should have paid extra for a plane with those little drop-down emergency oxygen masks

The plane was a Bombardier Challenger 600 -- basically the baby brother of a Canadair Regional Jet. I'd be shocked if it didn't have passenger oxygen masks available.

Can you still smell sarcasm with one of those things on?


Damnit, you didn't bracket your post with ^sarcasm^ taggets.
 
2012-09-25 11:11:11 AM  

cman: Explosive decompression is not something that pilots like. They tend to, you know, avoid it at all costs

/WATCH MAYDAY, best Air Crash TV show on the tube


The pics you posted yesterday inspired some reading and tube viewing already. It was awesome!
Still scratching my head over that Hawaii flight...
 
2012-09-25 11:14:39 AM  
I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....
 
2012-09-25 11:15:48 AM  

Warthog: There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.


Not everybody is as smart as you. Matter of fact, just the fact that you know how to use the internet, open register a user name, pay for a subscription and post in a forum puts you ahead of 47% of the country in terms of intelligence.
 
2012-09-25 11:17:45 AM  

Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....


Ignorance. I cannot fathom any other possibility

thismomentinblackhistory: cman: Explosive decompression is not something that pilots like. They tend to, you know, avoid it at all costs

/WATCH MAYDAY, best Air Crash TV show on the tube

The pics you posted yesterday inspired some reading and tube viewing already. It was awesome!
Still scratching my head over that Hawaii flight...


Indeed the Hawaii flight was amazing. Check out Gimli Glider next This will make you go "HOLY shiat" like the Hawaiian flight
 
2012-09-25 11:23:58 AM  

cman: Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....

Ignorance. I cannot fathom any other possibility


well...it COULD be ignorance. after all, the GOP is very anti-intellectual. But consider - Romney has lived almost his entire life in a protected bubble. nobody has ever given him honest feedback on what he sounds like, or how he actually appears to other people. if you worked for Mitt Romney and told him 'dude - stop sounding like a rich asshole' he'd probably just fire you. so everyone around him has probably just let Romney's more offensive commentary just slide. you don't correct a CEO who is on record as enjoying firing people. when you live that sort of lifestyle, you don't learn to appreciate the value people skills. Anyways - fast forward to this campaign and now everything Romney says is being reported. Having never had to stop and actually consider his words before speaking in public...Mitt is having a LOT of problems trying to not sound like an asshole.
 
2012-09-25 11:24:08 AM  
I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...
 
2012-09-25 11:25:09 AM  
In fact, this information validates Mr. Romney's statement. If the plane was at an altitude where insufficient oxygen was present outside, then opening a window would have reduced the oxygen within the plane. Evidently, liberals are unaware that oxygen fuels fire, thus removing the oxygen from the plane would have extinguished any fire present.
 
2012-09-25 11:26:11 AM  

Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...


That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.
 
2012-09-25 11:30:43 AM  

Dimensio: In fact, this information validates Mr. Romney's statement. If the plane was at an altitude where insufficient oxygen was present outside, then opening a window would have reduced the oxygen within the plane. Evidently, liberals are unaware that oxygen fuels fire, thus removing the oxygen from the plane would have extinguished any fire present.


At speed, there would be enough oxygen flowing through to fuel the fire
 
2012-09-25 11:31:13 AM  
Speaking of dumbasses, maybe Obama could explain this to him in Austrian.
 
2012-09-25 11:31:20 AM  

Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...


He wasn't joking.
 
2012-09-25 11:32:39 AM  

Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.


After all, in a post nomination acceptance interview, Romney said he "lives for laughter."
 
2012-09-25 11:35:16 AM  

Dimensio: In fact, this information validates Mr. Romney's statement. If the plane was at an altitude where insufficient oxygen was present outside, then opening a window would have reduced the oxygen within the plane. Evidently, liberals are unaware that oxygen fuels fire, thus removing the oxygen from the plane would have extinguished any fire present.


This is what Republicans actually believe.
 
2012-09-25 11:35:17 AM  
Anyone think of the next-to-last (because not everyone knows what 'penultimate' means) scene in Goldfinger when they read this? We can only hope.........
 
2012-09-25 11:35:23 AM  

Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.


It was an LA Times interview and I don't think there was a video. However, if you look at his quotes in context, it's hard to believe he was being anything but serious:

"I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don't think she knows just how worried some of us were. When you have a fire in an aircraft, there's no place to go, exactly, there's no - and you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don't open. I don't know why they don't do that. It's a real problem. So it's very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she's safe and sound."

No breaks in the paragraph--he mused about the windows not opening and went right back to talking about Anne's situation & the pilots "fortunately" having enough oxygen. I really wanted to believe this was a joke...nobody who's running for office, let alone having actually held a high position in government, should be that clueless. But...there you have it.

This is beginning to look like the tipping point for Romney, especially on the heels of his 47% comment. It's like GWHB being fascinated by a supermarket scanner--proof that he's just that out of touch.
 
2012-09-25 11:35:52 AM  

Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.


Option1: He was making a sarcastic joke at the expense of his wife choking on smoke.
Option2: He's ignorant of how and why a cabin is pressurized.

There is no Option3, choose from the above.
 
2012-09-25 11:37:03 AM  

Pantubo: Speaking of dumbasses, maybe Obama could explain this to him in Austrian.


Yeah, because a slip of the tongue/gaffe is exactly the same as not understanding basic science.
 
2012-09-25 11:37:15 AM  
FTFA: At 35,000 ft. (11,000 m), the typical altitude of a commercial jet, the air pressure drops to less than a quarter of its value at sea level, and the outside temperature drops below negative 60 degrees Fahrenheit (negative 51 degrees Celsius), according to The Engineering Toolbox. Exposed to such conditions, you would quickly die.

So if you're up in the air at 35,000 feet and a window blows out, you'll have plenty of oxygen from the mask to breathe until you quickly freeze to death. Or does it take a while for the cabin temperature to change in this scenario? I'm sure there are reams of data out there about this subject.
 
2012-09-25 11:37:51 AM  
Between hypoxia and choking to death on toxic smoke... I think I'd pick hypoxia actually...

/vent that cabin and let me take a nice long nap.
 
2012-09-25 11:38:41 AM  

thismomentinblackhistory: cman: Explosive decompression is not something that pilots like. They tend to, you know, avoid it at all costs

/WATCH MAYDAY, best Air Crash TV show on the tube

The pics you posted yesterday inspired some reading and tube viewing already. It was awesome!
Still scratching my head over that Hawaii flight...


What, you mean Aloha Airlines, back in the 80s?

What's so puzzling about it, the interisland airframes take a hell of a beating around here, what with making constant hops of only about an hour or so between the islands, constant exposure to salt air when on the ground...
 
2012-09-25 11:38:44 AM  

Dimensio: In fact, this information validates Mr. Romney's statement. If the plane was at an altitude where insufficient oxygen was present outside, then opening a window would have reduced the oxygen within the plane. Evidently, liberals are unaware that oxygen fuels fire, thus removing the oxygen from the plane would have extinguished any fire present.


of course it would also have killed everyone in the plane, but hey - the fire WOULD have gone out. so there's that. which is nice.
 
2012-09-25 11:38:48 AM  
I have never seen the main stream media act in such a blatant and hostile way to a Presidential canindate.

Yes, Romney had a slip of the brain when saying that windows should be able to lower on airplanes, but the constant hammering the media is doing with regard to this comment is sickening.

Where is the media on the administration's failure to fix the economy, its capitulation to Iran on nuclear weapons, its failure to secure a proper democracy for Egypt?
 
2012-09-25 11:38:51 AM  
Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.
 
2012-09-25 11:38:56 AM  
My airplane window opens.

But it won't go much above 12,000 feet, so it's not a real problem.
 
2012-09-25 11:39:17 AM  

valkore: FTFA: At 35,000 ft. (11,000 m), the typical altitude of a commercial jet, the air pressure drops to less than a quarter of its value at sea level, and the outside temperature drops below negative 60 degrees Fahrenheit (negative 51 degrees Celsius), according to The Engineering Toolbox. Exposed to such conditions, you would quickly die.

So if you're up in the air at 35,000 feet and a window blows out, you'll have plenty of oxygen from the mask to breathe until you quickly freeze to death. Or does it take a while for the cabin temperature to change in this scenario? I'm sure there are reams of data out there about this subject.


When a rapid decompression occurs, pilots immediately dive to below 10,000 feet. Not just because of temperature concerns, but also because those oxygen masks dont last too long. Bellow 10,000 feet is survivable for everyone on the plane
 
2012-09-25 11:39:17 AM  

cman: Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....

Ignorance. I cannot fathom any other possibility

thismomentinblackhistory: cman: Explosive decompression is not something that pilots like. They tend to, you know, avoid it at all costs

/WATCH MAYDAY, best Air Crash TV show on the tube

The pics you posted yesterday inspired some reading and tube viewing already. It was awesome!
Still scratching my head over that Hawaii flight...

Indeed the Hawaii flight was amazing. Check out Gimli Glider next This will make you go "HOLY shiat" like the Hawaiian flight


I've seen every one of those, I show them to my aviation maintenance students as a cautionary tale. Eastern 401 is my favorite, followed by Aeromexico.
 
2012-09-25 11:39:19 AM  

Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.


Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke. About a potentially life threatening situation that his wife was in, and done so in his typically awkward, uncomfortable manner, but a joke nonetheless.
 
2012-09-25 11:40:34 AM  

fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.


They open inwards. Good luck making that budge while the cabin is pressurized.
 
2012-09-25 11:40:46 AM  

valkore: FTFA: At 35,000 ft. (11,000 m), the typical altitude of a commercial jet, the air pressure drops to less than a quarter of its value at sea level, and the outside temperature drops below negative 60 degrees Fahrenheit (negative 51 degrees Celsius), according to The Engineering Toolbox. Exposed to such conditions, you would quickly die.

So if you're up in the air at 35,000 feet and a window blows out, you'll have plenty of oxygen from the mask to breathe until you quickly freeze to death. Or does it take a while for the cabin temperature to change in this scenario? I'm sure there are reams of data out there about this subject.


at what altitude did the flying fortresses fly? I remember reading stories about gunners, after their little bubbles were bursted, having their blood freeze while it fell from their body to the floor. and they survived somehow.

although, that was probably more than 15,000 feet lower. man, being a gunner in a bomber sounded like a really shiatty job.
 
2012-09-25 11:41:07 AM  
This is the person who might have his hand on "The Button".
 
2012-09-25 11:41:11 AM  

fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.


It is impossible to open a door at 32,000 feet with cruising speed. To open a door midflight pilots have to slow down quite a bit.
 
2012-09-25 11:41:49 AM  
http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp
 
2012-09-25 11:42:47 AM  

threedingers: Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.

Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke. About a potentially life threatening situation that his wife was in, and done so in his typically awkward, uncomfortable manner, but a joke nonetheless.


The wording of his statement was poor, if his statement was intended to be humourous. Additionally, I have been informed by a Utah resident (who himself is a non-Mormon but who has observed many Mormons in the area) that the Mormon church typically frowns upon levity derived from tragic or near-tragic occurrences. Whether his report is accurate, and whether Mr. Romney would abide by such a policy should one exist, I cannot say.
 
2012-09-25 11:43:15 AM  

Shadowknight: I have only read the quote, and never actually saw a video of Romney saying this. So, was he saying it humorously or sarcastically? Because even I would have done that. Or did he mean it sincerely?

Because with the other idiocy going on into the Rmoney camp lately, it could really go any which way.


As people pointed out yesterday, do you talk about being afraid for your wife's life one second, then make joke about it the next?
 
2012-09-25 11:43:22 AM  

brigid_fitch: Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.

It was an LA Times interview and I don't think there was a video. However, if you look at his quotes in context, it's hard to believe he was being anything but serious:

"I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don't think she knows just how worried some of us were. When you have a fire in an aircraft, there's no place to go, exactly, there's no - and you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don't open. I don't know why they don't do that. It's a real problem. So it's very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she's safe and sound."

No breaks in the paragraph--he mused about the windows not opening and went right back to talking about Anne's situation & the pilots "fortunately" having enough oxygen. I really wanted to believe this was a joke...nobody who's running for office, let alone having actually held a high position in government, should be that clueless. But...there you have it.

This is beginning to look like the tipping point for Romney, especially on the heels of his 47% comment. It's like GWHB being fascinated by a supermarket scanner--proof that he's just that out of touch.


57 STATES!!!
 
2012-09-25 11:43:35 AM  

fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.


How easily will an emergency exit door open during normal flight speed and at normal flight altitude?
 
2012-09-25 11:43:52 AM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: I have never seen the main stream media act in such a blatant and hostile way to a Presidential canindate.

Yes, Romney had a slip of the brain when saying that windows should be able to lower on airplanes, but the constant hammering the media is doing with regard to this comment is sickening.

Where is the media on the administration's failure to fix the economy, its capitulation to Iran on nuclear weapons, its failure to secure a proper democracy for Egypt?


this must be very difficult for you, watching Romney slowly destroyed by his own words. I know, I know...you wanted to believe that Mitt was the golden child sent to save the Republican party's legislative agenda. But he's not a very good candidate. he's unfocused and out of touch, stumbling from gaffe to gaffe and spending time and money fixing his own mistakes rather than pushing forward against Obama. The GOP backed the wrong horse on this one...but you can console yourself by knowing that Romney WAS the best your party had to offer. everyone else would have been much, much worse.

you can try again in 2016. maybe by then you'll have someone ready for a decent campaign attempt.
 
2012-09-25 11:44:20 AM  

Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....


Isn't that kinda the definition of ignorant?
 
2012-09-25 11:44:52 AM  
Boeing has sliding windows for the pilots, just don't open above 15,000 feet.
Link
 
2012-09-25 11:45:17 AM  
Romney is a complete idiot who has been handed everything in his life and surrounded by yes men.
 
2012-09-25 11:45:26 AM  

valkore: FTFA: At 35,000 ft. (11,000 m), the typical altitude of a commercial jet, the air pressure drops to less than a quarter of its value at sea level, and the outside temperature drops below negative 60 degrees Fahrenheit (negative 51 degrees Celsius), according to The Engineering Toolbox. Exposed to such conditions, you would quickly die.

So if you're up in the air at 35,000 feet and a window blows out, you'll have plenty of oxygen from the mask to breathe until you quickly freeze to death. Or does it take a while for the cabin temperature to change in this scenario? I'm sure there are reams of data out there about this subject.


Hypoxia is the real killer at 35,000 feet. Your body can stand the pressure change, and you can wear warm clothing to stand the cold. The P-51 Mustang was a prop driven aircraft, no pressurized cabin, and it had a service ceiling of 41,900 feet, Pilots wore oxygen masks. The thin air within the cabin was also heated. Even without pressure, you could heat air within the cabin.
 
2012-09-25 11:45:46 AM  
Romney is obviously way too smart to get himself elected President. He's so obviously an Obama plant, I can't believe the real murkans haven't figured it out.................
 
2012-09-25 11:45:54 AM  

Corvus: Romney is a complete idiot who has been handed everything in his life and surrounded by yes men.


that does tend to atrophy one's social skills.
 
2012-09-25 11:46:14 AM  

fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.


Those plug type doors are impossible to open in flight. A bomb doesn't have to be very big to take down an airplane, however, because of the compression. Look at the Lockerbie bomber.
 
2012-09-25 11:46:58 AM  

Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....


Why can't it be both?
 
2012-09-25 11:47:11 AM  

Warthog: There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.

 
2012-09-25 11:47:56 AM  
She should have just opened a door and stepped out for some fresh air.
 
2012-09-25 11:48:56 AM  

cman: fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.

It is impossible to open a door at 32,000 feet with cruising speed. To open a door midflight pilots have to slow down quite a bit.


That's not a function of airspeed so much as cabin pressure. With a pressurized cabin and de-pressurized outside, ain't now way ANYBODY could open that without a pocket plasma cutter or maybe a forklift. Or the bomb you mentioned not needing.
 
2012-09-25 11:49:12 AM  
Mitt Romney for Obama '12
 
2012-09-25 11:49:23 AM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: I have never seen the main stream media act in such a blatant and hostile way to a Presidential canindate.

Yes, Romney had a slip of the brain when saying that windows should be able to lower on airplanes, but the constant hammering the media is doing with regard to this comment is sickening.

Where is the media on the administration's failure to fix the economy, its capitulation to Iran on nuclear weapons, its failure to secure a proper democracy for Egypt?


You must know there is a liberal-drive-by-lamestream-media-conspiracy, not like these sheeple who love fartbongo
 
2012-09-25 11:49:55 AM  

Corvus: Romney is a complete idiot who has been handed everything in his life and surrounded by yes men.


Similarly, Hirohito didn't know how to use doorknobs.

/true story, bro
 
2012-09-25 11:50:32 AM  
I don't want a president who doesn't understand elementary science.
 
2012-09-25 11:50:34 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: I know he was thinking of his wife and her choking on smoke, but "letting oxygen in" is the dumbest thing to do when you suspect there is a fire.


Actually venting the roof during a house fire makes it safer to fight the fire by avoiding a build-up of heat and a resultant flashover.
 
2012-09-25 11:50:36 AM  
the reason you don't "just open the emergency exit door" is that I hear it's pretty hard to do that during normal cruising altitude in a pressurized cabin as mentioned by others. Also another biggie, is that a terrorist wants CONTROL over the aircraft to reach what ever he or she's goal is. Goals could b: fly into building to kill innocent people for your "cause", use a weapon of some sort to scare people to do your bidding (free hostages, bags of money, etc.)
 
2012-09-25 11:50:46 AM  

Mikey1969: Shadowknight: I have only read the quote, and never actually saw a video of Romney saying this. So, was he saying it humorously or sarcastically? Because even I would have done that. Or did he mean it sincerely?

Because with the other idiocy going on into the Rmoney camp lately, it could really go any which way.

As people pointed out yesterday, do you talk about being afraid for your wife's life one second, then make joke about it the next?


Humour is a viable method for reducing tension following a stressful occurrence. If Mr. Romney was attempting humour, his error was in the poor phrasing of his statement and not in making the effort itself.
 
2012-09-25 11:51:03 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Should have paid extra for a plane with those little drop-down emergency oxygen masks


ENTITLEMENTS!!
 
2012-09-25 11:51:06 AM  

maelgon: cman: fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.

It is impossible to open a door at 32,000 feet with cruising speed. To open a door midflight pilots have to slow down quite a bit.

That's not a function of airspeed so much as cabin pressure. With a pressurized cabin and de-pressurized outside, ain't now way ANYBODY could open that without a pocket plasma cutter or maybe a forklift. Or the bomb you mentioned not needing.


Well, all I know about opening doors midflight comes from the TV show Mayday. Since that is my first source, I am gonna get many things wrong. When they talked about the SA flight that had to open their door midflight to clear a smoke condition, the narrator put emphasis moreso on speed than anything else.
 
2012-09-25 11:51:13 AM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: I have never seen the main stream media act in such a blatant and hostile way to a Presidential canindate.

Yes, Romney had a slip of the brain when saying that windows should be able to lower on airplanes, but the constant hammering the media is doing with regard to this comment is sickening.

Where is the media on the administration's failure to fix the economy, its capitulation to Iran on nuclear weapons, its failure to secure a proper democracy for Egypt?


Do you still get honest bites, or just people mocking you?
 
2012-09-25 11:51:35 AM  
It's more likely Romney simply has the comedic timing of an eggplant.
 
Ehh
2012-09-25 11:52:42 AM  
What's the big deal? If you get sucked out an airplane window you can just go to the emergency room.
 
2012-09-25 11:52:51 AM  
For you Farkers who don't routinely work with businessmen, I can assure you that Mitt Romney is representative of the general stupidity. He is living proof that one does not need to be smart to succeed in business. One just needs an engaging personality, a reasonably good idea and some smart people to work hard and make it happen. Later, you can fark most of them over, when you sell your company to someone like Bain Capital.
 
2012-09-25 11:53:08 AM  

Weaver95: you wanted to believe that Mitt was the golden child sent to save the Republican party's legislative agenda.


I was never a fan of Romney, my vote for him is purely and vote against the administration and their policies. I am voting FOR Paul Ryan however.

Despite my preference of another candidate, anyone who cannot see who the mainstream media is manipulating the "news" to suit is clearly not paying attention.
 
2012-09-25 11:54:02 AM  

jaylectricity: Warthog: There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.

Not everybody is as smart as you. Matter of fact, just the fact that you know how to use the internet, open register a user name, pay for a subscription and post in a forum puts you ahead of 47% of the country in terms of intelligence.


So: you're implying that 53% of the country are on Fark -- and TF, at that? Unpossible!
 
2012-09-25 11:55:24 AM  
Now, it is quite fun to open the windows on a plane flying at 1500 feet.
 
2012-09-25 11:55:25 AM  
Also, for those of you who wonder why high pressure inside the plan doesn't make the emergency exit door 'easier' to push out. Link
 
2012-09-25 11:56:03 AM  

big pig peaches: It's more likely Romney simply has the comedic timing of an eggplant.


He certainly has the IQ of one.
 
2012-09-25 11:56:26 AM  
What's wrong with you people - he finally breaks out his A material and no one gets the joke? Believe me, this stuff knocks them dead in Salt Lake City.

/stupid humans
 
2012-09-25 11:56:48 AM  
media.screened.com

justwatch.typepad.com

Would like a word with Mr. Romney.
 
2012-09-25 11:56:54 AM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: you wanted to believe that Mitt was the golden child sent to save the Republican party's legislative agenda.

I was never a fan of Romney, my vote for him is purely and vote against the administration and their policies. I am voting FOR Paul Ryan however.

Despite my preference of another candidate, anyone who cannot see who the mainstream media is manipulating the "news" to suit is clearly not paying attention.


Yeah... reality has a well-known liberal bias.
 
2012-09-25 11:57:20 AM  

Dimensio: In fact, this information validates Mr. Romney's statement. If the plane was at an altitude where insufficient oxygen was present outside, then opening a window would have reduced the oxygen within the plane. Evidently, liberals are unaware that oxygen fuels fire, thus removing the oxygen from the plane would have extinguished any fire present.


Actually, opening a window would have sucked the fire thru the cabin, killing people inside before it "went out".

Seriously, are you really this stupid? Go watch Backdraft already.
 
2012-09-25 11:57:23 AM  

danielscissorhands: Corvus: Romney is a complete idiot who has been handed everything in his life and surrounded by yes men.

Similarly, Hirohito didn't know how to use doorknobs.

/true story, bro


[citation needed]

I could find no other reference to that observation other than reference to a scene in a movie. Methinks it was artistic license.
 
2012-09-25 11:58:00 AM  

Warthog: There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.


Seriously?

We have folks who believe Noah hung out with dinosaurs. We have folks that believe climate change is a hoax. We have folks that believe diluting a substance to 1 part in 1 million somehow makes it more effective. We have folks that believe there's such a concept as "legitimate rape," and that you can naturally prevent pregnancy in such cases. Our kids can't read, believe that language is a barrier to communication (so much so tht txtng iz teh kewl to write rpts), can't perform even basic math, think that because search engines exist that they just don't need to remember anything - and, increasingly, are being supported by adults who think those very same things. It's not their fault, though, because this is how the rich are ensuring the poor can't fight back - if you're too stupid, too illiterate, and too apathetic, you won't struggle or complain as much when you're told where to work and what to think.

Why are you surprised that the Republican offering for "Leader of the Free World" thinks they should've just opened the window to let the smoke out of a pressurized cabin? I'm surprised Brawndo isn't sponsoring his friggin' campaign yet.
 
2012-09-25 11:58:35 AM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: you wanted to believe that Mitt was the golden child sent to save the Republican party's legislative agenda.

I was never a fan of Romney, my vote for him is purely and vote against the administration and their policies. I am voting FOR Paul Ryan however.

Despite my preference of another candidate, anyone who cannot see who the mainstream media is manipulating the "news" to suit is clearly not paying attention.


but enough about fox news, right?
 
2012-09-25 11:58:52 AM  

fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.


I don't think those doors can open when the outside pressure is significantly lower than the inside.
 
2012-09-25 11:59:07 AM  

Langdon Alger: the reason you don't "just open the emergency exit door" is that I hear it's pretty hard to do that during normal cruising altitude in a pressurized cabin as mentioned by others. Also another biggie, is that a terrorist wants CONTROL over the aircraft to reach what ever he or she's goal is. Goals could b: fly into building to kill innocent people for your "cause", use a weapon of some sort to scare people to do your bidding (free hostages, bags of money, etc.)


It is actually impossible to open the emergency exit at altitude. The door opens inward and the pressure difference between the pressurized cabin and outside presses the door against its seals. More, when the cabin is pressurized, the latching mechanism is locked and will not operate.
 
2012-09-25 11:59:23 AM  
"When you have a fire in an aircraft, there's no place to go, exactly, there's no - and you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don't open. I don't know why they don't do that. It's a real problem. So it's very dangerous."

And, no, apologists, that's not humor. That's just plain stupidity.
 
2012-09-25 11:59:32 AM  
And this clown is running for President! Who is dumber, him or the ass-clowns that are supporting him?!
 
2012-09-25 11:59:36 AM  
I f Mitt does get elected he will insist the Navy begin research on screen doors for submarines.
 
2012-09-25 11:59:46 AM  

Ehh: What's the big deal? If you get sucked out an airplane window you can just go to the emergency room.


You won't even need to do that. In a legitimate falling incident, the body has ways to shut down gravity.
 
2012-09-25 12:00:00 PM  
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Leave the windows on my plane rolled up!
 
2012-09-25 12:00:07 PM  

fluffy2097: Hypoxia is the real killer at 35,000 feet. Your body can stand the pressure change, and you can wear warm clothing to stand the cold. The P-51 Mustang was a prop driven aircraft, no pressurized cabin, and it had a service ceiling of 41,900 feet, Pilots wore oxygen masks. The thin air within the cabin was also heated. Even without pressure, you could heat air within the cabin.


The Air Force rule was to make sure the oxygen mask was on above 15,000 feet (50% reduction in oxygen). I saw video of myself in an altitude chamber and the brain wasn't functioning very well without the proper amount of oxygen. Decompression has been exaggerated in the movies.
 
2012-09-25 12:00:28 PM  

GooberMcFly: This is the person who might have his hand on "The Button".


Yes, from the same party that gave us Sarah Palin.
 
2012-09-25 12:00:49 PM  
plane*

and the link appears not to work and keeps being removed from my post so I'll copy/paste

Don't panic, gang. If you'll look closely next time you're on a plane, you'll notice that the emergency exits - they're not so much doors as removable window plugs - open in, not out. When the plane is on the ground (which is when you're supposed to use the exits), that doesn't matter much, because the air pressure is equal on both sides. But when the plane is at cruising altitude, the inside (cabin) pressure is so much greater than the outside pressure that you'd have to have superhuman strength to pull the exit open. Let's say the window plug measures 18 by 36 inches. The cabin pressure in a typical commercial aircraft is about seven pounds per square inch. At 35,000 feet atmospheric pressure outside is about three and a half pounds per square inch. This means that to get the exit open you'd have to overcome a net outward pressure of more than 2,200 pounds, or more than a ton. Fat chance. The same thing applies to the plane's regular doors. In most commercial aircraft the doors open outward, but they're designed in such a way that they have to be popped in a smidge before they can be swung out. As with the emergency exits, cabin pressure prevents the doors from being opened when the plane is at cruising altitude.
 
2012-09-25 12:01:07 PM  

FormlessOne: Why are you surprised that the Republican offering for "Leader of the Free World" thinks they should've just opened the window to let the smoke out of a pressurized cabin? I'm surprised Brawndo isn't sponsoring his friggin' campaign yet.


Wow, lay off of Romney already! I can't believe this is even a news article. Somehow, I don't think knowing the inner workings of airplane windows has much to do with LEADING THE FREE WORLD. If this news story were about Obama, you'd be fussing about FAWX NEWZ, but since it's about Romney it clearly means he's an out-of-touch moron? Shame on you.
 
2012-09-25 12:01:21 PM  

evaned: Ehh: What's the big deal? If you get sucked out an airplane window you can just go to the emergency room.

You won't even need to do that. In a legitimate falling incident, the body has ways to shut down gravity.


*sniff* I... I feel good about this post...
 
2012-09-25 12:01:23 PM  

fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.


It would never open while pressurized. You're trying to pull against 14 pounds per square inch on one side, and probably 10 or so on the other, so that's a net of 4. The door is around 1000 square inches, so you'd have to pull with something like several thousand pounds to open it at 10,000 feet.
 
2012-09-25 12:01:47 PM  

reillan: Yeah... reality has a well-known liberal bias.


Weaver95: but enough about fox news, right?


His comments are hardly news worthy. More for the late night comedy trash and John Stewart crowd, oh wait that is where most liberals get their "news" from anyway. Never mind.
 
2012-09-25 12:01:48 PM  

JackieRabbit: For you Farkers who don't routinely work with businessmen, I can assure you that Mitt Romney is representative of the general stupidity. He is living proof that one does not need to be smart to succeed in business. One just needs an engaging personality, a reasonably good idea and some smart people to work hard and make it happen. Later, you can fark most of them over, when you sell your company to someone like Bain Capital.


THIS

I've spent too many years around executives who have no idea how the real world works and have an inflated sense of entitlement that they think anything can be done by edict.

Go see Devil Wears Prada. Merrill Streep nails the archetype perfectly.
 
2012-09-25 12:02:18 PM  
 
2012-09-25 12:02:36 PM  

epoch_destroi: FormlessOne: Why are you surprised that the Republican offering for "Leader of the Free World" thinks they should've just opened the window to let the smoke out of a pressurized cabin? I'm surprised Brawndo isn't sponsoring his friggin' campaign yet.

Wow, lay off of Romney already! I can't believe this is even a news article. Somehow, I don't think knowing the inner workings of airplane windows has much to do with LEADING THE FREE WORLD. If this news story were about Obama, you'd be fussing about FAWX NEWZ, but since it's about Romney it clearly means he's an out-of-touch moron? Shame on you.


I know, right? No need to get my Mormon mom jeans in a bunch...
 
2012-09-25 12:02:44 PM  

luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp


Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.
 
2012-09-25 12:03:43 PM  
So now that he knows you can't roll windows down on airplanes, do we need to let him know how not to solve the "I guess my dog can't stick his head out on flights, how do I get him the fresh air and breeze he wants" dilemma that is sure to come up sooner rather than later?
 
2012-09-25 12:03:48 PM  

smitty04: Decompression has been exaggerated in the movies.


Hell, from what we know, 2001 has it right: your body could survive a brief stint in a vacuum. (Depending on who you ask, you'd have 10-30 sec. until you go unconscious.)
 
2012-09-25 12:04:34 PM  

JackieRabbit: Langdon Alger: the reason you don't "just open the emergency exit door" is that I hear it's pretty hard to do that during normal cruising altitude in a pressurized cabin as mentioned by others. Also another biggie, is that a terrorist wants CONTROL over the aircraft to reach what ever he or she's goal is. Goals could b: fly into building to kill innocent people for your "cause", use a weapon of some sort to scare people to do your bidding (free hostages, bags of money, etc.)

It is actually impossible to open the emergency exit at altitude. The door opens inward and the pressure difference between the pressurized cabin and outside presses the door against its seals. More, when the cabin is pressurized, the latching mechanism is locked and will not operate.


Cool. I didn't look into the technical side of it but on assumption and context clues I was saying that opening the door does not allow a terrorist control the situation to reach the specific goal in mind. Hole or door open on plane usually results in some very odd situations where the outcome is very unpredictable.
 
2012-09-25 12:04:35 PM  

ijit: And this clown is running for President! Who is dumber, him or the ass-clowns that are supporting him?!


People who refuse to vote for a blah person.
 
2012-09-25 12:05:09 PM  

fluffy2097: fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.

They open inwards. Good luck making that budge while the cabin is pressurized.


Let's see, cabin pressure at cruising altitude is typically the equivalent of approx 5,000', or 14 psi. Exterior pressure at 35,000' is approx 3.5 psi, a pressure differential of 10.5 psi. The cabin door is say, 72" x 48" (just my SWAG) for an area of 3,456 in2, which would require 3,456x10.5=36,288 lb of force to open.
 
2012-09-25 12:05:31 PM  

cman: fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.

It is impossible to open a door at 32,000 feet with cruising speed. To open a door midflight pilots have to slow down quite a bit.


Not sure if serious. It's not a speed thing, it's an air presure thing. Inside the cabin the air is at ~8000 feet, outside is at, well, 32,000 feet. The air pushing on the door won't let you pull it inward.
 
2012-09-25 12:05:39 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: reillan: Yeah... reality has a well-known liberal bias.

Weaver95: but enough about fox news, right?

His comments are hardly news worthy. More for the late night comedy trash and John Stewart crowd, oh wait that is where most liberals get their "news" from anyway. Never mind.


So you are saying Romney isn't newsworthy?
 
2012-09-25 12:05:55 PM  

HideMonkey: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.


See?

But because it was Romney, you all jumped on this and screamed, "There's NO WAY it could be a joke! He's a robot!"

What's more robotic-- Romney making a damn joke when he's often criticized for 'humorlessness', or the identical automatic response of libs/dems whenever he opens his mouth?

The egg's on your face, libs.
 
2012-09-25 12:06:41 PM  

evaned: smitty04: Decompression has been exaggerated in the movies.

Hell, from what we know, 2001 has it right: your body could survive a brief stint in a vacuum. (Depending on who you ask, you'd have 10-30 sec. until you go unconscious.)


Having your lungs and eyes rupture due to gasses boiling out of solution is not my idea of my final 30 seconds of life.
 
2012-09-25 12:06:51 PM  

HideMonkey: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.


Well then his delivery sucks, and it wasn't funny.
 
2012-09-25 12:07:22 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: reillan: Yeah... reality has a well-known liberal bias.

Weaver95: but enough about fox news, right?

His comments are hardly news worthy. More for the late night comedy trash and John Stewart crowd, oh wait that is where most liberals get their "news" from anyway. Never mind.



You don't think a presidential candidate being dumb enough to say something so farking retarded to a newspaper is newsworthy?
 
2012-09-25 12:08:22 PM  

Weaver95: ...Mitt is having a LOT of problems trying to not sound like an asshole.


If it quacks like a duck..... He appears immune to intellectual curiosity.
 
2012-09-25 12:08:26 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: reillan: Yeah... reality has a well-known liberal bias.

Weaver95: but enough about fox news, right?

His comments are hardly news worthy. More for the late night comedy trash and John Stewart crowd, oh wait that is where most liberals get their "news" from anyway. Never mind.




The Daily Show is a better news source than Fox News... so... there's that...
 
2012-09-25 12:08:53 PM  
At 35,000 ft. (11,000 m), the typical altitude of a commercial jet, the air pressure drops to less than a quarter of its value at sea level, and the outside temperature drops below negative 60 degrees Fahrenheit (negative 51 degrees Celsius), according to The Engineering Toolbox. Exposed to such conditions, you would quickly die.

Which is a good thing, because 15,000 ft lower you have other things to worry about.

images.wikia.com
 
2012-09-25 12:09:09 PM  

Ishidan: HideMonkey: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.

Well then his delivery sucks, and it wasn't funny.


First: "it's not a joke! he clearly doesn't know anything about airplanes how can he lead our country!!!11"
then: "well it wasn't FUNNY!"

omg, it was a politician making an amusing aside. HOW DARE HE NOT SPLIT YOUR SIDES WITH LAUGHTER, clearly he is satan/antichrist/hitler incarnate and incapable of leading the country! We should only hire comedians to be president! Comedian airline technicians!



/friggin a'.
 
2012-09-25 12:09:29 PM  

big pig peaches: It's more likely Romney simply has the comedic timing of an eggplant.


That sir is an insult to the eggplant community.
 
2012-09-25 12:09:32 PM  

evaned: smitty04: Decompression has been exaggerated in the movies.

Hell, from what we know, 2001 has it right: your body could survive a brief stint in a vacuum. (Depending on who you ask, you'd have 10-30 sec. until you go unconscious.)


It's that last bit that gets you. Please ask Payne Stewart whether the risks of decompression are exaggerated.
 
2012-09-25 12:10:25 PM  
For fark's sake, you could have an open window on an airplane at cruising altitude and you'd maintain pressure just fine.

Don't believe me?
 
2012-09-25 12:10:30 PM  

Shadowknight: I have only read the quote, and never actually saw a video of Romney saying this. So, was he saying it humorously or sarcastically? Because even I would have done that. Or did he mean it sincerely?

Because with the other idiocy going on into the Rmoney camp lately, it could really go any which way.


Have we previously heard Romney employ actual sarcasm?
 
2012-09-25 12:10:34 PM  

platedlizard: fireclown: Speaking of decompression, I'm continuously amazed that people don't open that emergency door. It seems like a really, really easy way to mess with an airplane. Don't need no bomb, don't need no tools. Just will.

I don't think those doors can open when the outside pressure is significantly lower than the inside.


There you go! There's a reason for that.
 
2012-09-25 12:10:37 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: I have never seen the main stream media act in such a blatant and hostile way to a Presidential canindate.

Yes, Romney had a slip of the brain when saying that windows should be able to lower on airplanes, but the constant hammering the media is doing with regard to this comment is sickening.

Where is the media on the administration's failure to fix the economy, its capitulation to Iran on nuclear weapons, its failure to secure a proper democracy for Egypt?


epoch_destroi: FormlessOne: Why are you surprised that the Republican offering for "Leader of the Free World" thinks they should've just opened the window to let the smoke out of a pressurized cabin? I'm surprised Brawndo isn't sponsoring his friggin' campaign yet.

Wow, lay off of Romney already! I can't believe this is even a news article. Somehow, I don't think knowing the inner workings of airplane windows has much to do with LEADING THE FREE WORLD. If this news story were about Obama, you'd be fussing about FAWX NEWZ, but since it's about Romney it clearly means he's an out-of-touch moron? Shame on you.

 
2012-09-25 12:11:35 PM  

Barbecue Bob: Free_Chilly_Willy: I have never seen the main stream media act in such a blatant and hostile way to a Presidential canindate.

Yes, Romney had a slip of the brain when saying that windows should be able to lower on airplanes, but the constant hammering the media is doing with regard to this comment is sickening.

Where is the media on the administration's failure to fix the economy, its capitulation to Iran on nuclear weapons, its failure to secure a proper democracy for Egypt?

epoch_destroi: FormlessOne: Why are you surprised that the Republican offering for "Leader of the Free World" thinks they should've just opened the window to let the smoke out of a pressurized cabin? I'm surprised Brawndo isn't sponsoring his friggin' campaign yet.

Wow, lay off of Romney already! I can't believe this is even a news article. Somehow, I don't think knowing the inner workings of airplane windows has much to do with LEADING THE FREE WORLD. If this news story were about Obama, you'd be fussing about FAWX NEWZ, but since it's about Romney it clearly means he's an out-of-touch moron? Shame on you.


i.qkme.me
 
2012-09-25 12:11:41 PM  

Shadowknight: I have only read the quote, and never actually saw a video of Romney saying this. So, was he saying it humorously or sarcastically? Because even I would have done that. Or did he mean it sincerely?

Because with the other idiocy going on into the Rmoney camp lately, it could really go any which way.


Yeah I'm no fan of Romney myself but I admit I haven't seen the video and don't know if it was a joke or not now.
 
2012-09-25 12:12:22 PM  
My favorite part has to be:
" Because temperature and pressure go hand-in-hand (i.e. low-pressure air feels cold), pressurization is also necessary to keep cabins sufficiently warm."

It's plain wrong, and for this to be listed on yahoo "news" makes it worse. More people will see it, and more people will be come even dumber (or hopefully laugh at this statement). If you're going to write an article about science, at least have a basic understanding of said science.

I hope the dumbass tag was for the author.
 
2012-09-25 12:12:38 PM  

danielscissorhands: Corvus: Romney is a complete idiot who has been handed everything in his life and surrounded by yes men.

Similarly, Hirohito didn't know how to use doorknobs.

/true story, bro


That's also because every building he ever lived in had sliding shoji for doors.
 
2012-09-25 12:13:16 PM  

lohphat: danielscissorhands: Corvus: Romney is a complete idiot who has been handed everything in his life and surrounded by yes men.

Similarly, Hirohito didn't know how to use doorknobs.

/true story, bro

[citation needed]

I could find no other reference to that observation other than reference to a scene in a movie. Methinks it was artistic license.


It may well have been.

However, with all those servants polishing Hirohito's know, it would not be surprising if he couldn't turn it himself.

I am referring to his door knob.
 
2012-09-25 12:13:16 PM  

Ishidan: HideMonkey: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.

Well then his delivery sucks, and it wasn't funny.


You read his delivery. To my knowledge nobody heard it, so things like intonation were missing.

you fail. People should read that link
 
2012-09-25 12:13:16 PM  

threedingers: Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke


I see zero indication that he was. Not a shred of humor. Hell, he didn't even pause for laughter, he threw the sentence in there as an aside. That's not an attempt at humor.
 
2012-09-25 12:14:09 PM  

luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp


Well, Snopes jumps the shark. Romney used the same expression and tone describing the danger to his wife's life as he did the plane's window structure. Or a Freudian slip?
 
2012-09-25 12:14:48 PM  
newspaper.li
 
2012-09-25 12:15:13 PM  

danielscissorhands: lohphat: danielscissorhands: Corvus: Romney is a complete idiot who has been handed everything in his life and surrounded by yes men.

Similarly, Hirohito didn't know how to use doorknobs.

/true story, bro

[citation needed]

I could find no other reference to that observation other than reference to a scene in a movie. Methinks it was artistic license.

It may well have been.

However, with all those servants polishing Hirohito's know, it would not be surprising if he couldn't turn it himself.

I am referring to his door knob.


KNOB>

Damn this phone!
 
2012-09-25 12:15:27 PM  

lohphat: Having your lungs and eyes rupture due to gasses boiling out of solution is not my idea of my final 30 seconds of life.


See, this is what I mean: that's lore that would not actually happen.

"If you don't try to hold your breath, exposure to space for half a minute or so is unlikely to produce permanent injury. Holding your breath is likely to damage your lungs, something scuba divers have to watch out for when ascending, and you'll have eardrum trouble if your Eustachian tubes are badly plugged up, but theory predicts -- and animal experiments confirm -- that otherwise, exposure to vacuum causes no immediate injury. You do not explode. Your blood does not boil. You do not freeze. You do not instantly lose consciousness."
Ask an astrophysicist

"In reality, however, animal experiments and human accidents have shown that people can likely survive exposure to vacuum conditions for at least a couple of minutes. Not that you would remain conscious long enough to rescue yourself, but if your predicament was accidental, there could be time for fellow crew members to rescue and repressurize you with few ill effects."
Scientific American
 
2012-09-25 12:15:30 PM  
Mitt thinks this is safer:

milesobrien.com
 
2012-09-25 12:15:58 PM  
Ewwww, I feel dirty even reading comments from so many people involved in such a gigantic circle jerk.

Assuming for the moment that he said:

"I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don't think she knows just how worried some of us were. When you have a fire in an aircraft, there's no place to go, exactly, there's no - and you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don't open. I don't know why they don't do that. It's a real problem. So it's very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she's safe and sound."

A normal interpretation of what he meant by "that" (highlighted above) is that he is referring to "you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft" (also highlighted above). It seems reasonable that one would want people not to die of smoke inhalation in a case in which the cabin fills with smoke, right? His solution is not necessarily for passengers to be able to open windows, that is just an explanation for why people can't do this on their own as they would if the vehicle in which they were traveling was on the ground.

I know, I know, a waste of words to a bunch of true believers who know that anyone who disagrees with them on anything is an idiot and a tea-bagger, anything that is wrong with the world is Bush's Fault®, and any time Obama does exactly what Bush did it is because of the Republicans.
 
2012-09-25 12:17:02 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: you wanted to believe that Mitt was the golden child sent to save the Republican party's legislative agenda.

I was never a fan of Romney, my vote for him is purely and vote against the administration and their policies. I am voting FOR Paul Ryan however.

Despite my preference of another candidate, anyone who cannot see who the mainstream media is manipulating the "news" to suit is clearly not paying attention.


English! Do you speak it?
 
2012-09-25 12:17:56 PM  

NorKnOAd: My favorite part has to be:
" Because temperature and pressure go hand-in-hand (i.e. low-pressure air feels cold), pressurization is also necessary to keep cabins sufficiently warm."

It's plain wrong, and for this to be listed on yahoo "news" makes it worse. More people will see it, and more people will be come even dumber (or hopefully laugh at this statement). If you're going to write an article about science, at least have a basic understanding of said science.

I hope the dumbass tag was for the author.


Well, it was wrong for the wrong reasons. If you take a mass of air and put that same mass in a larger volume, the temperature will indeed go down. If you take that and put it in a smaller volume, the temperature will indeed go up. It is one of the reasons why it's colder the higher you get in the atmosphere. However, they don't pressurize the planes to keep the temperature up, they do it to keep people alive. They have heaters for the temperature. The author was someone who was too busy fantasizing about the person sitting next to them in Chemistry class to understand that.
 
2012-09-25 12:17:57 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: threedingers: Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke

I see zero indication that he was. Not a shred of humor. Hell, he didn't even pause for laughter, he threw the sentence in there as an aside. That's not an attempt at humor.


I"m not sure Romney's humor subroutines are entirely functional. for one thing, Romney keeps laughing at table legs. we're not sure why that happens either, but the database seems to think table legs are absolutely hilarious. so we had to take humor offline and see if we could trace the error. we were under the gun though and had to get him back online ASAP, so the fix was to delete all references to table legs. he honestly doesn't know what they are now, which is something of an obscure issue - I mean how often does a table leg come up in conversation? so we're probably safe in the short term.
 
2012-09-25 12:18:16 PM  

leonel: Yeah I'm no fan of Romney myself but I admit I haven't seen the video and don't know if it was a joke or not now.


luvtinayothers posted it, but apparently did not yell it loud enough: Link

Open for your interpretation. But inflection does matter.
 
2012-09-25 12:18:17 PM  

Dimensio: Humour is a viable method for reducing tension following a stressful occurrence. If Mr. Romney was attempting humour, his error was in the poor phrasing of his statement and not in making the effort itself.


The point is that most people don't think Romney is actually stupid enough to even make that joke. Did you read the full statement? He starts with the story about his wife, mentions the windows and then immediately go on about how luckily the pilots had enough oxygen to land and did their job well. There's not even really room for a joke, it flows from scary story to dumb statement to a safe outcome...
 
2012-09-25 12:18:25 PM  
i729.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-25 12:18:31 PM  
www.internetweekly.org
i.qkme.me
media.tumblr.com
 
2012-09-25 12:19:01 PM  
Also:

Why hasn't anyone answered the question about being able to open the E-doors while in flight? Does no one read the thread before commenting?? I'd like to know about the doors, 'cause that IS a major security concern.... (shouldn't they at least be locked, or something?)


{/sarc}
 
2012-09-25 12:20:01 PM  

luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp


"Partly true" because "his tone and phrasing were obviously intended to be tongue in cheek"? The hell?

If he was joking, he deadpans it. I actually was sure he was joking until I saw the video last night. Now I don't know. It's a matter of conjecture. So I don't know how Snopes purports to get inside Mitt's positronic net and make a ruling based on his intent.
 
2012-09-25 12:20:54 PM  

evaned: lohphat: Having your lungs and eyes rupture due to gasses boiling out of solution is not my idea of my final 30 seconds of life.

See, this is what I mean: that's lore that would not actually happen.

"If you don't try to hold your breath, exposure to space for half a minute or so is unlikely to produce permanent injury. Holding your breath is likely to damage your lungs, something scuba divers have to watch out for when ascending, and you'll have eardrum trouble if your Eustachian tubes are badly plugged up, but theory predicts -- and animal experiments confirm -- that otherwise, exposure to vacuum causes no immediate injury. You do not explode. Your blood does not boil. You do not freeze. You do not instantly lose consciousness."
Ask an astrophysicist

"In reality, however, animal experiments and human accidents have shown that people can likely survive exposure to vacuum conditions for at least a couple of minutes. Not that you would remain conscious long enough to rescue yourself, but if your predicament was accidental, there could be time for fellow crew members to rescue and repressurize you with few ill effects."
Scientific American


Neither of those articles go into detail of what happens to your alveoli in your lungs when exposed to a vacuum. They are thin-walled delicate structures used to exchange gasses. Having ing a vacuum on one side of the membrane will probably cause severe hemmoraging.
 
2012-09-25 12:20:59 PM  

luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp


I like how it says "partly true". It's wholly true whether he meant it as a joke or not. The question is: Did he say that?, and the answer is "Yes.", not "Kind of yes". Snopes is really getting scared of this attack on fact checkers, that's for sure. Unfortunately, video is blocked at work, i'm going to try and find it elsewhere.
 
2012-09-25 12:21:53 PM  

IAAl: Ewwww, I feel dirty even reading comments from so many people involved in such a gigantic circle jerk.

Assuming for the moment that he said:


So, now it's not a joke?
 
2012-09-25 12:21:57 PM  

luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp


I'm no fan of the guy but it does look like he was joking. And the way that report cut the words off abruptly suggest they wanted to context to look as bad as it could.
 
2012-09-25 12:22:19 PM  

KyDave: jaylectricity: Warthog: There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.

Not everybody is as smart as you. Matter of fact, just the fact that you know how to use the internet, open register a user name, pay for a subscription and post in a forum puts you ahead of 47% of the country in terms of intelligence.

So: you're implying that 53% of the country are on Fark -- and TF, at that? Unpossible!


No, silly...I mean that 47% of the country couldn't figure out how to even be on TF.
 
2012-09-25 12:22:47 PM  

lohphat: evaned: lohphat: Having your lungs and eyes rupture due to gasses boiling out of solution is not my idea of my final 30 seconds of life.

See, this is what I mean: that's lore that would not actually happen.

"If you don't try to hold your breath, exposure to space for half a minute or so is unlikely to produce permanent injury. Holding your breath is likely to damage your lungs, something scuba divers have to watch out for when ascending, and you'll have eardrum trouble if your Eustachian tubes are badly plugged up, but theory predicts -- and animal experiments confirm -- that otherwise, exposure to vacuum causes no immediate injury. You do not explode. Your blood does not boil. You do not freeze. You do not instantly lose consciousness."
Ask an astrophysicist

"In reality, however, animal experiments and human accidents have shown that people can likely survive exposure to vacuum conditions for at least a couple of minutes. Not that you would remain conscious long enough to rescue yourself, but if your predicament was accidental, there could be time for fellow crew members to rescue and repressurize you with few ill effects."
Scientific American

Neither of those articles go into detail of what happens to your alveoli in your lungs when exposed to a vacuum. They are thin-walled delicate structures used to exchange gasses. Having ing a vacuum on one side of the membrane will probably cause severe hemmoraging.


it depends on the circumstances. if you exhale sharply before exposure, odds are you can survive at least a minute without permanent damage. you will not enjoy the experience.
 
2012-09-25 12:23:00 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: threedingers: Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke

I see zero indication that he was. Not a shred of humor. Hell, he didn't even pause for laughter, he threw the sentence in there as an aside. That's not an attempt at humor.


If it were Obama, you'd be applauding his dry delivery. :/

Righties might "cling to [our] guns and religion", but you liberals cling to one interpretation of an event like you'll fall off the monkey bars if you let one thing go. Can't be wrong, though! Nope nope nope. Reality doesn't have a liberal bias; liberals are biased against reality.
 
2012-09-25 12:23:41 PM  
Great time for a joke is right after you wife almost dies a firey death.
 
2012-09-25 12:25:04 PM  

epoch_destroi: PC LOAD LETTER: threedingers: Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke

I see zero indication that he was. Not a shred of humor. Hell, he didn't even pause for laughter, he threw the sentence in there as an aside. That's not an attempt at humor.

If it were Obama, you'd be applauding his dry delivery. :/

Righties might "cling to [our] guns and religion", but you liberals cling to one interpretation of an event like you'll fall off the monkey bars if you let one thing go. Can't be wrong, though! Nope nope nope. Reality doesn't have a liberal bias; liberals are biased against reality.


Mitt isn't going to sleep with you, you know.

Although if you are a woman, he might make you wife #2.
 
2012-09-25 12:25:46 PM  

Barbecue Bob: Great time for a joke is right after you wife almost dies a firey death.


shiat, I didn't get the memo that dealing with things through humor was a bad thing.

How dare you have a healthy coping mechanism, potential leader of the free world! Don't you know you should rely on booze to handle frightening and upsetting situations? Just brew it at home like Obama!
 
2012-09-25 12:27:08 PM  

gilgigamesh: epoch_destroi: PC LOAD LETTER: threedingers: Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke

I see zero indication that he was. Not a shred of humor. Hell, he didn't even pause for laughter, he threw the sentence in there as an aside. That's not an attempt at humor.

If it were Obama, you'd be applauding his dry delivery. :/

Righties might "cling to [our] guns and religion", but you liberals cling to one interpretation of an event like you'll fall off the monkey bars if you let one thing go. Can't be wrong, though! Nope nope nope. Reality doesn't have a liberal bias; liberals are biased against reality.

Mitt isn't going to sleep with you, you know.

Although if you are a woman, he might make you wife #2.


I'm not trying to get him to sleep with me....though maybe that's hard to understand, if you're an Obama supporter. Look-- not everybody has to build a cult of personality and celebrity around themselves-- I can defend someone without wanting to fark them.
 
2012-09-25 12:27:41 PM  
Surely Jesus would hold the oxygen in the cabin if you opened the window at 35,000 feet.
 
2012-09-25 12:27:45 PM  

MacWizard: Shadowknight: I have only read the quote, and never actually saw a video of Romney saying this. So, was he saying it humorously or sarcastically? Because even I would have done that. Or did he mean it sincerely?

Because with the other idiocy going on into the Rmoney camp lately, it could really go any which way.

Have we previously heard Romney employ actual sarcasm?


True enough. That's too much nuance for his processor to handle. Like one of those brain teasers that always make the androids start to explode in the movies. A statement said that isn't true but meant to be taken as the opposite. Does not compute...

/this statement is false...
 
2012-09-25 12:28:03 PM  
No, it is in no way "obvious" that he was joking. Additionally, the reports of 'everyone' laughing are bullshiat, too. He has a slight grin, but that doesn't change from his "I'm glad my wife is safe and sound.' statement, and he also doesn't pause for effect as if he had just delivered a punchline.

Here's a video:

Link
 
2012-09-25 12:28:26 PM  

jaylectricity: KyDave: jaylectricity: Warthog: There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.

Not everybody is as smart as you. Matter of fact, just the fact that you know how to use the internet, open register a user name, pay for a subscription and post in a forum puts you ahead of 47% of the country in terms of intelligence.

So: you're implying that 53% of the country are on Fark -- and TF, at that? Unpossible!

No, silly...I mean that 47% of the country couldn't figure out how to even be on TF.


... But 53% could? What percentage was actually dumb enough to pay for Fark, then, wise guy?!? ... ... wait...I... .. .. but that would mean...

/ nevermind
// stupid ol' repubtards
 
2012-09-25 12:29:34 PM  
Come on.. if he wants safety for passengers when they splashdown in an ocean, have "shove head-first into window until it breaks" conveniently located assholes on phones. That's all that's needed to increase getting out of the plane alive.
 
2012-09-25 12:29:52 PM  
Mitt has a jet made out of the same stuff they make the black boxes out of.
 
2012-09-25 12:29:57 PM  

Shadowknight: MacWizard: Shadowknight: I have only read the quote, and never actually saw a video of Romney saying this. So, was he saying it humorously or sarcastically? Because even I would have done that. Or did he mean it sincerely?

Because with the other idiocy going on into the Rmoney camp lately, it could really go any which way.

Have we previously heard Romney employ actual sarcasm?

True enough. That's too much nuance for his processor to handle. Like one of those brain teasers that always make the androids start to explode in the movies. A statement said that isn't true but meant to be taken as the opposite. Does not compute...

/this statement is false...


So basically...even though he told it as a joke, because he hasn't utilized sarcasm often in a public race for office, clearly he never uses it and we can never interpret his words as being humorous? Wowwwwwwww. Talk about a disconnect with reality-- you have video proof of it being a joke, and yet you insist it is not because you view him as humorless, so clearly he MUST be.
 
2012-09-25 12:30:07 PM  

jaylectricity: No, silly...I mean that 47% of the country couldn't figure out how to even be on TF.


I had always assumed that only people on welfare would have the time to waste on Fark.
 
2012-09-25 12:30:16 PM  

NorKnOAd: My favorite part has to be:
" Because temperature and pressure go hand-in-hand (i.e. low-pressure air feels cold), pressurization is also necessary to keep cabins sufficiently warm."

It's plain wrong, and for this to be listed on yahoo "news" makes it worse. More people will see it, and more people will be come even dumber (or hopefully laugh at this statement). If you're going to write an article about science, at least have a basic understanding of said science.

I hope the dumbass tag was for the author.


To be fair they didn't say "low pressure causes low temperature", just that they go hand in hand. Which they do. Temperature does drop the higher you go.
 
2012-09-25 12:31:12 PM  

Abuse Liability: Ishidan: HideMonkey: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.

Well then his delivery sucks, and it wasn't funny.

You read his delivery. To my knowledge nobody heard it, so things like intonation were missing.

you fail. People should read that link


Video has been posted in this thread. The Snopes link.
 
2012-09-25 12:31:26 PM  

IAAl: Ewwww, I feel dirty even reading comments from so many people involved in such a gigantic circle jerk.

Assuming for the moment that he said:

"I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don't think she knows just how worried some of us were. When you have a fire in an aircraft, there's no place to go, exactly, there's no - and you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don't open. I don't know why they don't do that. It's a real problem. So it's very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she's safe and sound."

A normal interpretation of what he meant by "that" (highlighted above) is that he is referring to "you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft" (also highlighted above). It seems reasonable that one would want people not to die of smoke inhalation in a case in which the cabin fills with smoke, right? His solution is not necessarily for passengers to be able to open windows, that is just an explanation for why people can't do this on their own as they would if the vehicle in which they were traveling was on the ground.

I know, I know, a waste of words to a bunch of true believers who know that anyone who disagrees with them on anything is an idiot and a tea-bagger, anything that is wrong with the world is Bush's Fault®, and any time Obama does exactly what Bush did it is because of the Republicans.


i1136.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-25 12:32:04 PM  

Barbecue Bob: Great time for a joke is right after you wife almost dies a firey death.


Now come on. After my wife was in a bad accident (sideswiped at a very high rate of speed), and once I was sure she was OK I made lots of jokes about her just testing out the side mount airbags or wanting to see if the truck would explode like that old staged Dateline report.

Not saying that's what Romney did, as Mr. "Who Let the Dogs Out" has a knack for screwing up basic humor in awkward ways. But without hearing it, I'd like to at least give him the benefit of a doubt.

That is to reiterate, I'd LIKE to, but the guy has had too many foibles and goofs this campaign to believe that fully.
 
2012-09-25 12:32:18 PM  

IAAl: Ewwww, I feel dirty even reading comments from so many people involved in such a gigantic circle jerk.

Assuming for the moment that he said:

"I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don't think she knows just how worried some of us were. When you have a fire in an aircraft, there's no place to go, exactly, there's no - and you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don't open. I don't know why they don't do that. It's a real problem. So it's very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she's safe and sound."

A normal interpretation of what he meant by "that" (highlighted above) is that he is referring to "you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft" (also highlighted above). It seems reasonable that one would want people not to die of smoke inhalation in a case in which the cabin fills with smoke, right? His solution is not necessarily for passengers to be able to open windows, that is just an explanation for why people can't do this on their own as they would if the vehicle in which they were traveling was on the ground.

I know, I know, a waste of words to a bunch of true believers who know that anyone who disagrees with them on anything is an idiot and a tea-bagger, anything that is wrong with the world is Bush's Fault®, and any time Obama does exactly what Bush did it is because of the Republicans.


Mitt still isn't going to fark you.
 
2012-09-25 12:32:50 PM  

epoch_destroi: shiat, I didn't get the memo that dealing with things through humor was a bad thing.


You mean like the humour he showed in London? Mitt's clear, distinct and unambiguous way of expression would be a total laugh riot in tense foreign negotiations. Even Ann missed the 'joke', she smiled more at "no place to go".
 
2012-09-25 12:33:00 PM  

Shadowknight: Barbecue Bob: Great time for a joke is right after you wife almost dies a firey death.

Now come on. After my wife was in a bad accident (sideswiped at a very high rate of speed), and once I was sure she was OK I made lots of jokes about her just testing out the side mount airbags or wanting to see if the truck would explode like that old staged Dateline report.

Not saying that's what Romney did, as Mr. "Who Let the Dogs Out" has a knack for screwing up basic humor in awkward ways. But without hearing it, I'd like to at least give him the benefit of a doubt.

That is to reiterate, I'd LIKE to, but the guy has had too many foibles and goofs this campaign to believe that fully.


See? Look her, libs! This is reasonable. I can get this. I have the same reservations about taking Obama stories at face value.
 
2012-09-25 12:33:52 PM  

epoch_destroi: Barbecue Bob: Great time for a joke is right after you wife almost dies a firey death.

shiat, I didn't get the memo that dealing with things through humor was a bad thing.

How dare you have a healthy coping mechanism, potential leader of the free world! Don't you know you should rely on booze to handle frightening and upsetting situations? Just brew it at home like Obama!


"A US ambassador was killed by extremeists today. Too bad we we couldn't just beam him out of there like they do on Star Trek." -Pick a hypothetical leading politician.
See how funny that would be? haha. Too bad our actual leaders don't have as healthy a coping mechanism as Romney. 'cuz life would be so farking funny then.
 
2012-09-25 12:34:34 PM  

epoch_destroi: So basically...even though he told it as a joke, because he hasn't utilized sarcasm often in a public race for office, clearly he never uses it and we can never interpret his words as being humorous? Wowwwwwwww. Talk about a disconnect with reality-- you have video proof of it being a joke, and yet you insist it is not because you view him as humorless, so clearly he MUST be.


Where in that video is the proof that was a joke? Is it this?

s3.amazonaws.com


Oh wait... that was when he was feeling smug over how clever he was to jump all over the death of a US ambassador for political gain.

The joke about airplane windows wasn't that amusing.
 
2012-09-25 12:34:46 PM  

neenerist: epoch_destroi: shiat, I didn't get the memo that dealing with things through humor was a bad thing.

You mean like the humour he showed in London? Mitt's clear, distinct and unambiguous way of expression would be a total laugh riot in tense foreign negotiations. Even Ann missed the 'joke', she smiled more at "no place to go".


He made an ass of himself in London, that's pretty clear. I'm not here to argue that. What I am here to argue is that he made a damn joke, and you people are so ready to tar and feather him that you'll produce your OWN gaffe instead of talking about substantive issues.
 
2012-09-25 12:35:49 PM  

epoch_destroi: PC LOAD LETTER: threedingers: Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke

I see zero indication that he was. Not a shred of humor. Hell, he didn't even pause for laughter, he threw the sentence in there as an aside. That's not an attempt at humor.

If it were Obama, you'd be applauding his dry delivery. :/

Righties might "cling to [our] guns and religion", but you liberals cling to one interpretation of an event like you'll fall off the monkey bars if you let one thing go. Can't be wrong, though! Nope nope nope. Reality doesn't have a liberal bias; liberals are biased against reality.


Obama wouldn't have said it, because he isn't that ignorant.
 
2012-09-25 12:36:20 PM  

Flint Ironstag: To be fair they didn't say "low pressure causes low temperature", just that they go hand in hand. Which they do. Temperature does drop the higher you go.


The sun heats the earth and the earth heats the air, so the farther from the earth the less the heat. Fortunately hot air tends to rise.
 
2012-09-25 12:37:41 PM  
Wow, when the libs realize they can't win, they bring up other things!

Yes, Romney made an ass of himself in London. He learned from it. And I'm not here to debate about whether or not he was ~smug~ at some press conference(spoiler alert: smiling in and of itself isn't smug! you people go crazy when the right calls obama smug for smirking, but when Romney smiles, it's evidence that he's evilllllll).

Just admit you were wrong about him being ~so stupid~ over one joke. Admit it. It won't kill you, I promise.
 
2012-09-25 12:38:00 PM  

Weaver95: So you are saying Romney isn't newsworthy?


No, I saying his airplane comments are not/ and were hardly newsworthy to begin with.
 
2012-09-25 12:38:51 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: So you are saying Romney isn't newsworthy?

No, I saying his airplane comments are not/ and were hardly newsworthy to begin with.


^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS
 
2012-09-25 12:40:17 PM  

epoch_destroi: HideMonkey: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.

See?

But because it was Romney, you all jumped on this and screamed, "There's NO WAY it could be a joke! He's a robot!"

What's more robotic-- Romney making a damn joke when he's often criticized for 'humorlessness', or the identical automatic response of libs/dems whenever he opens his mouth?

The egg's on your face, libs.


For the record, I'm neither a lib nor a dem.

I've just decided to try to enjoy our sad political theater as entertainment, and Romney has lately been providing most of the yuks. I'm equally critical of both major parties (and any other parties that might still be squirming in their obscurity).
 
2012-09-25 12:40:43 PM  

epoch_destroi: Wow, when the libs realize they can't win, they bring up other things!

Yes, Romney made an ass of himself in London. He learned from it. And I'm not here to debate about whether or not he was ~smug~ at some press conference(spoiler alert: smiling in and of itself isn't smug! you people go crazy when the right calls obama smug for smirking, but when Romney smiles, it's evidence that he's evilllllll).

Just admit you were wrong about him being ~so stupid~ over one joke. Admit it. It won't kill you, I promise.


Just admit you were wrong about him not being ~a dumbass~ all the time. Admit it. It won't kill you. I promise.
 
2012-09-25 12:41:43 PM  

HideMonkey: epoch_destroi: HideMonkey: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.

See?

But because it was Romney, you all jumped on this and screamed, "There's NO WAY it could be a joke! He's a robot!"

What's more robotic-- Romney making a damn joke when he's often criticized for 'humorlessness', or the identical automatic response of libs/dems whenever he opens his mouth?

The egg's on your face, libs.

For the record, I'm neither a lib nor a dem.

I've just decided to try to enjoy our sad political theater as entertainment, and Romney has lately been providing most of the yuks. I'm equally critical of both major parties (and any other parties that might still be squirming in their obscurity).


Okay-- that's fair, and I apologize for assuming-- that made an ass out of me. ;) If you give it out equally, I can't fault you for that! :)
 
2012-09-25 12:41:46 PM  

lohphat: Neither of those articles go into detail of what happens to your alveoli in your lungs when exposed to a vacuum. They are thin-walled delicate structures used to exchange gasses. Having ing a vacuum on one side of the membrane will probably cause severe hemmoraging.


I wouldn't count hemmoraging lungs among "few ill effects."

Anyway, what you're describing is what people assume will happen because it's plausible. But it's not supported by evidence. What I'm saying is what is supported by real, actual evidence. Both linked articles discuss what actually happens to both animals in very-near-vacuum conditions (and in one case, a person in a low-pressure environment) -- and every description sounds like the main effects were very temporary. (Gone in minutes instead of days.) True, they don't explicitly say "the lungs didn't hemmorage." But if the lungs did, they did so in a way that wasn't damaging.
 
2012-09-25 12:42:59 PM  

epoch_destroi: Wow, when the libs realize they can't win, they bring up other things!

Yes, Romney made an ass of himself in London. He learned from it. And I'm not here to debate about whether or not he was ~smug~ at some press conference(spoiler alert: smiling in and of itself isn't smug! you people go crazy when the right calls obama smug for smirking, but when Romney smiles, it's evidence that he's evilllllll).

Just admit you were wrong about him being ~so stupid~ over one joke. Admit it. It won't kill you, I promise.


I am trying to assume he was telling a joke... it doesn't really appear that he was... and if he was it was inappropriate and not at all funny.
But I am trying to assume he was joking. Because I'd be very disappointed if someone running for the most powerful position on earth was that ignorant.

/Not a lib.
 
2012-09-25 12:43:39 PM  

Dimensio: In fact, this information validates Mr. Romney's statement. If the plane was at an altitude where insufficient oxygen was present outside, then opening a window would have reduced the oxygen within the plane. Evidently, liberals are unaware that oxygen fuels fire, thus removing the oxygen from the plane would have extinguished any fire present.


Is your washing machine also permanently stuck on the spin cycle?
 
2012-09-25 12:43:58 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: So you are saying Romney isn't newsworthy?

No, I saying his airplane comments are not/ and were hardly newsworthy to begin with.


everything a presidential candidate says is - by default - 'newsworthy'. no, that's not fair and yes its kinda stupid...but that's how it goes when you play the game at that level.
 
2012-09-25 12:45:59 PM  

epoch_destroi: Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: So you are saying Romney isn't newsworthy?

No, I saying his airplane comments are not/ and were hardly newsworthy to begin with.

^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS


No? If that congressman who thought too many people on Guam could make it tip over was running for president, you wouldn't think his comments relevant?

I'm not convinced either was as to whether he (Mitt) was joking, and it's absolutely relevant if the guy who wants to rule the free world is that big of an idiot.
 
2012-09-25 12:46:01 PM  

Barbecue Bob: Great time for a joke is right after you wife almost dies a firey death.


i935.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-25 12:47:05 PM  

epoch_destroi: What I am here to argue is that he made a damn joke....


You appear here to argue that, contrary to the evidence of my own senses, that video (not a story) shows he delivered the line in a manner most would interpret as an obvious joke. Even if you're right about the intent, it displays a bizarre disconnect with how people perceive him and an inability to express himself with the clarity demanded of the highest office.

On the other hand "believe what I tell you, not what you see" has become a core Republican campaign motif.
 
2012-09-25 12:47:57 PM  

reillan: Free_Chilly_Willy: reillan: Yeah... reality has a well-known liberal bias.

Weaver95: but enough about fox news, right?

His comments are hardly news worthy. More for the late night comedy trash and John Stewart crowd, oh wait that is where most liberals get their "news" from anyway. Never mind.



The Daily Show is a better news source than Fox News... so... there's that...


Wow according to TFA people who watch NO news are more informed that Fox News viewers

That is a scay, sobering thought
 
2012-09-25 12:49:33 PM  

neenerist: epoch_destroi: What I am here to argue is that he made a damn joke....

You appear here to argue that, contrary to the evidence of my own senses, that video (not a story) shows he delivered the line in a manner most would interpret as an obvious joke. Even if you're right about the intent, it displays a bizarre disconnect with how people perceive him and an inability to express himself with the clarity demanded of the highest office.

On the other hand "believe what I tell you, not what you see" has become a core Republican campaign motif.


Except...I saw the video? And he's clearly joking? Maybe it's a cultural thing-- a northern/upper class-to-rich humor style, but I have a lot of friends who deliver jokes exactly like that. We just have a very dry sense of humor, almost British in style.
 
2012-09-25 12:50:20 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-25 12:51:55 PM  
I was kinda hoping to see Bill O'Reilly and his Juggalo Band performing their old school rap, "Air .. you can't explain that!"

Not that I don't appreciate the good solid laugh I got from Barbeque Bob's Stupidity Emporium. Because I do.

Alas, no Bill, no Juggalos. I guess those memes are exhausted and need a rest.

Oh, well, for no reason, here's a couple of Old People singing "Up where you belong", "Wind beneath my wings" and their collected hits.

upload.wikimedia.org 

Maybe Mittens should stick to ground transportation.
 
2012-09-25 12:53:12 PM  

tblax:
Wow according to TFA people who watch NO news are more informed that Fox News viewers

That is a scay, sobering thought


Well I better not think it then.
 
2012-09-25 12:54:07 PM  

Walker: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

He wasn't joking.


If he was, this needs to be a message to him: "Mitt, you aren't funny. Stop making jokes. People think you're being serious."
 
2012-09-25 12:54:19 PM  
I find it hard to believe that with all of the flying he's done over the course of his life, he's never inquired as to why airplane windows do not roll down.
 
2012-09-25 12:54:41 PM  

tblax: reillan: Free_Chilly_Willy: reillan: Yeah... reality has a well-known liberal bias.

Weaver95: but enough about fox news, right?

His comments are hardly news worthy. More for the late night comedy trash and John Stewart crowd, oh wait that is where most liberals get their "news" from anyway. Never mind.



The Daily Show is a better news source than Fox News... so... there's that...

Wow according to TFA people who watch NO news are more informed that Fox News viewers

That is a scay, sobering thought


Propaganda and misinformation - now more convenient than ever.
 
2012-09-25 12:54:51 PM  

Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: So you are saying Romney isn't newsworthy?

No, I saying his airplane comments are not/ and were hardly newsworthy to begin with.

everything a presidential candidate says is - by default - 'newsworthy'. no, that's not fair and yes its kinda stupid...but that's how it goes when you play the game at that level.



And liberals have "joked" about it for two days now. Get over it...also

Funny, I think the economy and our image abroad are more newsworthy. But lets not talk about that because it could hurt the media's candidate too much.
 
2012-09-25 12:54:57 PM  

funk_soul_bubby: leonel: Yeah I'm no fan of Romney myself but I admit I haven't seen the video and don't know if it was a joke or not now.

luvtinayothers posted it, but apparently did not yell it loud enough: Link

Open for your interpretation. But inflection does matter.


Ah I see. I think I'm more inclined to take it as a humor joke.
 
2012-09-25 12:56:22 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy:
And liberals have "joked" about it for two days now. Get over it...also


I don't think that's going to happen right away. you're just gonna have to ride it out and hope it's not TOO damaging.

Funny, I think the economy and our image abroad are more newsworthy. But lets not talk about that because it could hurt the media's candidate too much.

this really bothers you, doesn't it?
 
2012-09-25 12:57:46 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: So you are saying Romney isn't newsworthy?

No, I saying his airplane comments are not/ and were hardly newsworthy to begin with.

everything a presidential candidate says is - by default - 'newsworthy'. no, that's not fair and yes its kinda stupid...but that's how it goes when you play the game at that level.


And liberals have "joked" about it for two days now. Get over it...also

Funny, I think the economy and our image abroad are more newsworthy. But lets not talk about that because it could hurt the media's candidate too much.


Feel free to ignore
 
2012-09-25 12:58:25 PM  

reillan: Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: So you are saying Romney isn't newsworthy?

No, I saying his airplane comments are not/ and were hardly newsworthy to begin with.

everything a presidential candidate says is - by default - 'newsworthy'. no, that's not fair and yes its kinda stupid...but that's how it goes when you play the game at that level.


And liberals have "joked" about it for two days now. Get over it...also

Funny, I think the economy and our image abroad are more newsworthy. But lets not talk about that because it could hurt the media's candidate too much.

Feel free to ignore


bah... why I miss autopreview...

Feel free to ignore foreign policy news if it helps your agenda.
 
2012-09-25 12:59:14 PM  

epoch_destroi: ...a northern/upper class-to-rich humor style....


Maybe, but again it highlights he doesn't understand it isn't about how he needs to speak, it's about what his listeners need to hear the message. He's no longer in the boardroom.
 
2012-09-25 12:59:37 PM  

epoch_destroi: HideMonkey: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.

See?

But because it was Romney, you all jumped on this and screamed, "There's NO WAY it could be a joke! He's a robot!"

What's more robotic-- Romney making a damn joke when he's often criticized for 'humorlessness', or the identical automatic response of libs/dems whenever he opens his mouth?

The egg's on your face, libs.


Watch the video again...

Link

Snopes is guessing here. There is no pause to wait for laughter, there is no real laughter, and the look Romney has on his face is the same, no indication that he has gone from "I'm serious, my wife was in danger." to "Here's a funny!", back to "But seriously, folks, these pilots are great, and did an amazing job, and I have them to thank.". He went from Point A to Point B to Point C with absolutely ZERO indication that he was attempting a joke. He didn't even scan the crowd an extra time to see if everyone 'got it'.
 
2012-09-25 12:59:53 PM  

Weaver95: this really bothers you, doesn't it?


The fact that my countrymen are are rewarding a president that has had zero positive impact on jobs, has made the US more vulnerable with regards to Iran, and don't see the mainstream quietly manipulating them?

Yes, it bothers me.
 
2012-09-25 01:01:23 PM  

neenerist: epoch_destroi: ...a northern/upper class-to-rich humor style....

Maybe, but again it highlights he doesn't understand it isn't about how he needs to speak, it's about what his listeners need to hear the message. He's no longer in the boardroom.



...everybody has different humor styles. Nobody would tell a middle-to-lower class person to change their humor, if they were running for office-- people would call that classist.
 
2012-09-25 01:03:14 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: this really bothers you, doesn't it?

The fact that my countrymen are are rewarding a president that has had zero positive impact on jobs, has made the US more vulnerable with regards to Iran, and don't see the mainstream quietly manipulating them?

Yes, it bothers me.


Do you mean president or obstructionist legislature blocking job bills?
 
2012-09-25 01:03:31 PM  
From what been coming out of his mouth, I'd he is well experienced in having his brain lacking oxygen.
 
2012-09-25 01:04:57 PM  
Decompression at 34,000 feet

climbing through FL344 towards FL360 about 105nm west of Phoenix and 65nm northnortheast of Yuma,AZ (USA) when a panel in the cabin ceiling just above the overhead lockers opened with a gunshot like sound leaving a hole of about 5 feet long and 1 foot wide (152 by 30cm) allowing to look straight into the sky. The passenger oxygen masks came down automatically, the crew initiated an emergency descent to 11,000 feet and diverted to Yuma where the aircraft landed without further incident about 28 minutes later.
english4aviation.pbworks.com 
Link
 
2012-09-25 01:05:32 PM  

Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.


Maybe he should have used emoticons or something
 
2012-09-25 01:07:06 PM  
In other news, Ric Romero reports that water is wet.
 
2012-09-25 01:08:50 PM  
You know, I actually kind of feel sorry for Mitt Romney. To begin, he really isn't that smart. He isn't "Dubya Dumb," but he's no scholar either. Next, Romney is not a conservative and never has been. He's actually a rare thing in the GOP these days: a slightly left-leaning moderate. When he threw his hat into the ring for the GOP nomination a lot of centrist Republicans and independents were please, since he offered a change to vote for someone who was not only an experienced and successful business man, but was a rather good governor. When Romney started, he really did sound like Mitt Romney: reasonable and balanced. But when it became apparent that he would be the nominee, the GOP strategists started to reel him in and insist that he embrace the tea party conservative platform. Romney has done this and it has become obvious that it has induced something of a cognitive dissonance in him. He keeps flubbing so badly because he really doesn't believe in the bullshiat he has to spew in order to placate the "GOP base." Well, the base was placated rather early on and now Romney's false conservative positions are coming back to haunt him (a la 47%). Barack Obama is now leading in every national poll of registered voters (by an average of three percent and the gap is widening rapidly) and we haven't even had the first debate yet. Those debates will be Romney's downfall. He simply cannot debate Obama on substance, since he has none. They hope is that he will be able to rattle "Mr. Cool" Obama. But that's a dim hope, since on one has succeeded in this yet.

If Romney keeps screwing up as badly as he has (he cannot afford to go safe; he must be aggressive and highly visible) and if he can't get control of his staff, to stop their in-fighting, we could be looking at an Obama mini-landslide, or at least a clear mandate. As soon as the GOP started moving him to the right, he should have bucked. This was his and John McCain's biggest mistake.
 
2012-09-25 01:10:50 PM  
To those voices forecasting the end of America, I say, let's just go ahead, rip off the bandages, elect this guy, and get it over with.
 
2012-09-25 01:11:26 PM  

lohphat: Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: this really bothers you, doesn't it?

The fact that my countrymen are are rewarding a president that has had zero positive impact on jobs, has made the US more vulnerable with regards to Iran, and don't see the mainstream quietly manipulating them?

Yes, it bothers me.

Do you mean president or obstructionist legislature blocking job bills?


I would argue obstructionists president. The American people have clearly voted against the presidents agenda in 2010. Any threat of a veto was him going against the will of the American people and the agenda they voted for when they swept the demorcrat party from office.
 
2012-09-25 01:11:57 PM  

epoch_destroi: So basically...even though he told it as a joke, because he hasn't utilized sarcasm often in a public race for office, clearly he never uses it and we can never interpret his words as being humorous? Wowwwwwwww. Talk about a disconnect with reality-- you have video proof of it being a joke, and yet you insist it is not because you view him as humorless, so clearly he MUST be.


No, we have video proof of him saying it, and not a single indication at all that he meant it as a joke. The face stays the same, there's no pause to wait for a reaction from the "punchline", he doesn't laugh afterwards, he just plows straight through. There is no actual evidence that he was joking, the Snopes thing was a lot of ASSumption.
 
2012-09-25 01:14:18 PM  

JackieRabbit: He isn't "Dubya Dumb," but he's no scholar either.


He earned a Bachelor of Arts from Brigham Young University and, in 1975, a joint Juris Doctor and Master of Business Administration from Harvard University. Can you top that? Joint degrees is damn difficult.
 
2012-09-25 01:14:30 PM  

Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: So basically...even though he told it as a joke, because he hasn't utilized sarcasm often in a public race for office, clearly he never uses it and we can never interpret his words as being humorous? Wowwwwwwww. Talk about a disconnect with reality-- you have video proof of it being a joke, and yet you insist it is not because you view him as humorless, so clearly he MUST be.

No, we have video proof of him saying it, and not a single indication at all that he meant it as a joke. The face stays the same, there's no pause to wait for a reaction from the "punchline", he doesn't laugh afterwards, he just plows straight through. There is no actual evidence that he was joking, the Snopes thing was a lot of ASSumption.


Is it seriously that hard to tell? Are libs so ignorant of dry humor? No wonder so many today's comedy shows are in the total dumps-- somebody has to be screaming "PUNCHLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!" and smashing a melon for you to get it.
 
2012-09-25 01:16:05 PM  

Shadowknight: I have only read the quote, and never actually saw a video of Romney saying this. So, was he saying it humorously or sarcastically? Because even I would have done that. Or did he mean it sincerely?

Because with the other idiocy going on into the Rmoney camp lately, it could really go any which way.


I totally hope he said it as a joke and this is just Poe's Law in action. But he's so disconnected from reality, he could well have thought plane windows should have rolled down and didn't understand why they don't.
 
2012-09-25 01:17:07 PM  
Funny how objective facts "conspire" to make Republicans look utterly retarded.
/libertarians get a similar treatment by reality
 
2012-09-25 01:18:44 PM  

IAAl: because the windows don't open. I don't know why they don't do that.


No, the normal interpretation of "that" is the sentence BEFORE, where he mentions that you can't open the windows, not the "you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft", because not only do you not use "that" to reference something 2 or 3 statements back, but "you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, I don't know why they don't do that" doesn't make any sense because "they" aren't doing anything in the sentence. If he said 'you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, I don't know why not.', that would support your argument.

Instead, he said "they" as in people, as in the people in charge of an airplane, not the magic oxygen fairies.
 
2012-09-25 01:19:32 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Funny how objective facts "conspire" to make Republicans look utterly retarded.
/libertarians get a similar treatment by reality


Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike the objective fact that he was making a joke and the left jumped on it like a gay jumping onto a bicycle without the seat? :/
 
2012-09-25 01:21:32 PM  

epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: So basically...even though he told it as a joke, because he hasn't utilized sarcasm often in a public race for office, clearly he never uses it and we can never interpret his words as being humorous? Wowwwwwwww. Talk about a disconnect with reality-- you have video proof of it being a joke, and yet you insist it is not because you view him as humorless, so clearly he MUST be.

No, we have video proof of him saying it, and not a single indication at all that he meant it as a joke. The face stays the same, there's no pause to wait for a reaction from the "punchline", he doesn't laugh afterwards, he just plows straight through. There is no actual evidence that he was joking, the Snopes thing was a lot of ASSumption.

Is it seriously that hard to tell? Are libs so ignorant of dry humor? No wonder so many today's comedy shows are in the total dumps-- somebody has to be screaming "PUNCHLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!" and smashing a melon for you to get it.


Two possibilities:
1) He's joking, which means he isn't funny, and should stop, because people don't get him, and it's hurting him.
2) He's serious, which means he's a complete moron, and it terrifies me to think he'd be in charge of our nuclear arsenal.
 
2012-09-25 01:22:33 PM  

epoch_destroi: We just have a very dry sense of humor, almost British in style.


You're confusing "dry" with "no delivery at all". There's a difference.
 
2012-09-25 01:22:49 PM  

stonicus: 1) He's joking, which means he isn't funny, and should stop, because people don't get him, and it's hurting him.


If you used 'people don't get him' as a barometer for whether or not somebody was worth hearing/funny, Obama would have been out of office as soon as he was elected. Let's face it-- the reaction of the opposing party isn't a good sensor for if something was funny or not.
 
2012-09-25 01:23:26 PM  

Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: We just have a very dry sense of humor, almost British in style.

You're confusing "dry" with "no delivery at all". There's a difference.


Enjoy your Gallagher reruns.
 
2012-09-25 01:24:32 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: this really bothers you, doesn't it?
Yes, it bothers me.


it SHOULD bother you. Romney was the best of a bad slate of choices the Republicans presented to their voters and he's making quite a mess of things. you SHOULD be mad as hell that your best option was someone as crappy as Mitt Romney.

now go out and do something about it.
 
2012-09-25 01:26:13 PM  

epoch_destroi: Is it seriously that hard to tell? Are libs so ignorant of dry humor? No wonder so many today's comedy shows are in the total dumps-- somebody has to be screaming "PUNCHLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!" and smashing a melon for you to get it.


The irony of a Rightie trying to explain comedy. As I pointed out elsewhere, you don't actually understand the concept of dry humor, it's just a convenient label to throw at a problem because you think it fits the situation at hand and has the added bonus of making you "look" smart, at least in your own muddled brain.
 
2012-09-25 01:27:51 PM  

epoch_destroi: ...everybody has different humor styles. Nobody would tell a middle-to-lower class person to change their humor, if they were running for office-- people would call that classist.


Yes, I would be against making fart jokes about Putin's name. Someone who can't tailor the message to the audience is incompetent and has no place in leadership, class has nothing to do with it.
 
2012-09-25 01:28:01 PM  

Weaver95: it SHOULD bother you. Romney was the best of a bad slate of choices the Republicans presented to their voters and he's making quite a mess of things. you SHOULD be mad as hell that your best option was someone as crappy as Mitt Romney.


Yeah, I figured it out. They crammed a clown car full of candidates, and then using remote control, spun donuts for about 4 months straight. Crashed it into the wall, and whoever shook off the concussion first got the nomination.
 
2012-09-25 01:28:56 PM  

smitty04: Decompression at 34,000 feet

climbing through FL344 towards FL360 about 105nm west of Phoenix and 65nm northnortheast of Yuma,AZ (USA) when a panel in the cabin ceiling just above the overhead lockers opened with a gunshot like sound leaving a hole of about 5 feet long and 1 foot wide (152 by 30cm) allowing to look straight into the sky. The passenger oxygen masks came down automatically, the crew initiated an emergency descent to 11,000 feet and diverted to Yuma where the aircraft landed without further incident about 28 minutes later.
[english4aviation.pbworks.com image 750x447] 
Link


Windows that rolled down would have made everything else unnecessary. :-)
 
2012-09-25 01:31:49 PM  

epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: Are libs so ignorant of dry humor?


Name 10 conservative-leaning comedians
 
2012-09-25 01:32:28 PM  
OK, so I watched the video. I could see someone delivering that joke in that way, even in the full context. I'm not really convinced that Romney was intending it do be one, but nor am I totally convinced he meant it seriously. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
2012-09-25 01:41:39 PM  

Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....


Since it was a joke that nobody got and or went out of their way to hide, i'm sure he isn't too worried about it.
 
2012-09-25 01:42:15 PM  

evaned: OK, so I watched the video. I could see someone delivering that joke in that way, even in the full context. I'm not really convinced that Romney was intending it do be one, but nor am I totally convinced he meant it seriously. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.


Not me...

He gave no indication he was delivering a joke, not a pause, not a change in delivery or inflection. Not even waiting for a response to the "joke" before continuing on. It was a steady, continuing flow. I'm erring on the side of the "joke" claims being bullshiat. I see no evidence that it was one, except claims by some very shrill Romney supporters who think this counts as "dry humor"... I see nothing in it that even says "I suck at jokes, but let's try one anyway".
 
2012-09-25 01:43:36 PM  

tblax: epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: Are libs so ignorant of dry humor?

Name 10 conservative-leaning comedians


Well, apparently epoch_destroi is a very talented one. Nobody on the planet understands humor, most notably "dry" humor the way (s)he does.
 
2012-09-25 01:44:07 PM  

tblax: epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: Are libs so ignorant of dry humor?

Name 10 conservative-leaning comedians


What will that accomplish? Seriously, though-- there's a difference between "comedians whose schtick is being [supposedly] conservative" (mainly shiatty, racist, other *ist jokes) and "comedians who are politically conservative". I have the feeling you're thinking of the former.

(and there's a third difference, of "politicians who joked and happened to be conservative", but, yknow. let's list comedians instead!)
 
2012-09-25 01:46:56 PM  

lohphat: Having your lungs and eyes rupture due to gasses boiling out of solution is not my idea of my final 30 seconds of life.


They won't rupture. It just hurts.
 
2012-09-25 01:49:16 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Well, it was wrong for the wrong reasons. If you take a mass of air and put that same mass in a larger volume, the temperature will indeed go down. If you take that and put it in a smaller volume, the temperature will indeed go up. It is one of the reasons why it's colder the higher you get in the atmosphere. However, they don't pressurize the planes to keep the temperature up, they do it to keep people alive. They have heaters for the temperature. The author was someone who was too busy fantasizing about the person sitting next to them in Chemistry class to understand that.


Flint Ironstag: NorKnOAd: My favorite part has to be:
" Because temperature and pressure go hand-in-hand (i.e. low-pressure air feels cold), pressurization is also necessary to keep cabins sufficiently warm."

It's plain wrong, and for this to be listed on yahoo "news" makes it worse. More people will see it, and more people will be come even dumber (or hopefully laugh at this statement). If you're going to write an article about science, at least have a basic understanding of said science.

I hope the dumbass tag was for the author.

To be fair they didn't say "low pressure causes low temperature", just that they go hand in hand. Which they do. Temperature does drop the higher you go.


I know the ideal gas laws, and these two variables are directly proportionate, so I see where his statement is coming from. Like you said however, that's not why they pressurize the plane, which was implied. Also the "low-pressure air feels cold" statement begs causation which is again, misleading. I'm probably upset because the article is stupid to begin with.
 
2012-09-25 01:50:04 PM  

Mikey1969: evaned: OK, so I watched the video. I could see someone delivering that joke in that way, even in the full context. I'm not really convinced that Romney was intending it do be one, but nor am I totally convinced he meant it seriously. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Not me...

He gave no indication he was delivering a joke, not a pause, not a change in delivery or inflection. Not even waiting for a response to the "joke" before continuing on. It was a steady, continuing flow. I'm erring on the side of the "joke" claims being bullshiat. I see no evidence that it was one, except claims by some very shrill Romney supporters who think this counts as "dry humor"... I see nothing in it that even says "I suck at jokes, but let's try one anyway".


Very few politicians have good comedic timing. Hell, very few anybody has good comedic timing.

What makes me doubt it was a joke is the fact that he kept going with it. A real "joke" would have been "Yeah, the cabin filled with smoke; too bad they couldn't roll the windows down to get some air." PERIOD. Romney kept on going and going with it, like someone genuinely trying to get why the passengers couldn't let the smoke out. Now, it may have been one of those sad jokes we've all told where you say the line, and nobody gets it, and then you keep on "You know, roll the windows down...like airplanes don't...let some air in...HEY IT'S FUNNY PEOPLE!!!" but Romney just isn't like that.
 
2012-09-25 01:50:08 PM  
Riiiiggghhhhttt..that's JUST what Romney said. He asked why windows can't "open" - which could be a legitimate question since obviously airplane doors do open (they're called emergency exits).

What about the Obama gaffe where he said he "Hates all gays, women and hispanics"? Nobody reports on THAT gaffe!
 
2012-09-25 01:54:21 PM  

Gyrfalcon: What makes me doubt it was a joke is the fact that he kept going with it. A real "joke" would have been "Yeah, the cabin filled with smoke; too bad they couldn't roll the windows down to get some air." PERIOD. Romney kept on going and going with it, like someone genuinely trying to get why the passengers couldn't let the smoke out.


Yep, none of what you would see from someone delivering a joke, "dry" or not, I agree. Oh well, it doesn't surprise me though. We DO seem to have hurt epoch_destroi's feelings, though.
 
2012-09-25 01:55:45 PM  

tblax: epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: Are libs so ignorant of dry humor?

Name 10 conservative-leaning comedians


And since you asked:

Bill Cosby
Adam Sandler
Drew Carey
Ben Stein
Kelsey Grammer
Jeff Foxworthy
Larry the Cable Guy
Bill Engvall
Ron White
David Angelo

(Not all of them are my cup of tea, but they're all comedians and right-leaning or right-wingers.)
 
2012-09-25 01:57:06 PM  

Mikey1969: Gyrfalcon: What makes me doubt it was a joke is the fact that he kept going with it. A real "joke" would have been "Yeah, the cabin filled with smoke; too bad they couldn't roll the windows down to get some air." PERIOD. Romney kept on going and going with it, like someone genuinely trying to get why the passengers couldn't let the smoke out.

Yep, none of what you would see from someone delivering a joke, "dry" or not, I agree. Oh well, it doesn't surprise me though. We DO seem to have hurt epoch_destroi's feelings, though.


Naw, I just have time before class to kill. ;)
 
2012-09-25 01:58:57 PM  

epoch_destroi: tblax: epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: Are libs so ignorant of dry humor?

Name 10 conservative-leaning comedians

And since you asked:

Bill Cosby
Adam Sandler
Drew Carey
Ben Stein
Kelsey Grammer
Jeff Foxworthy
Larry the Cable Guy
Bill Engvall
Ron White
David Angelo

(Not all of them are my cup of tea, but they're all comedians and right-leaning or right-wingers.)


I guess I should have specified I wanted people who were actually funny

Props for actually making a list, though
 
2012-09-25 02:02:45 PM  

tblax: epoch_destroi: tblax: epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: Are libs so ignorant of dry humor?

Name 10 conservative-leaning comedians

And since you asked:

Bill Cosby
Adam Sandler
Drew Carey
Ben Stein
Kelsey Grammer
Jeff Foxworthy
Larry the Cable Guy
Bill Engvall
Ron White
David Angelo

(Not all of them are my cup of tea, but they're all comedians and right-leaning or right-wingers.)

I guess I should have specified I wanted people who were actually funny

Props for actually making a list, though


...well, quite a few people find them funny; they're all pretty successful comedians. Everybody finds different stuff funny...hence the freak-out over this joke, with people taking it literally. I don't think 'funny' is so easily encapsuled so as that anyone could provide a list of ten people that everybody would find funny. And I don't see you making a list of ten liberal comedians that I would find side-splitting.

This is yet another example of the way that liberals move the goal posts-- with the article:
*first he was a moron for saying it
*then it was that the joke was too callous-- "how dare he joke when his wife almost died"
*then it was that the joke wasn't "funny enough".

And with this--
*first, "find ten conservative comedians"
*then, "well, butbutbut, I don't find them all hilarious! find ten that I like!"
 
2012-09-25 02:05:14 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: I have never seen the main stream media act in such a blatant and hostile way to a Presidential canindate.

Yes, Romney had a slip of the brain when saying that windows should be able to lower on airplanes, but the constant hammering the media is doing with regard to this comment is sickening.

Where is the media on the administration's failure to fix the economy, its capitulation to Iran on nuclear weapons, its failure to secure a proper democracy for Egypt?


Yes. One man in America SHOULD fix a global economy, set up a puppet govt in an Islamic Republic, and declare war on yet another Islamic Republic? Did I understand you correctly? This is one man's responsibility?
 
2012-09-25 02:06:51 PM  

smitty04: JackieRabbit: He isn't "Dubya Dumb," but he's no scholar either.

He earned a Bachelor of Arts from Brigham Young University and, in 1975, a joint Juris Doctor and Master of Business Administration from Harvard University. Can you top that? Joint degrees is damn difficult.


One does not need necessarily to be brilliant to earn a degree from Harvard. There are other ways to get in and get a degree, as many wealthy lads have discovered after daddy pulled the right strings. He's obviously smart. But never be overly impressed with a MBA (though Harvard has a rather good program). Many schools offer these for going to school on Saturdays for a year. The law degree from Harvard is more impressive; that isn't easy. But these are both professional - not academic - degrees. Hence my comment he's no scholar.
 
2012-09-25 02:09:02 PM  

brigid_fitch: This is beginning to look like the tipping point for Romney, especially on the heels of his 47% comment. It's like GWHB being fascinated by a supermarket scanner--proof that he's just that out of touch.


I hope Romney is done, but GHWB got flack for what was a misinterpretation of events. Some hack reporter said he was amazed by the scanner, when in reality he expressed interest in a new type of scanner at a trade show.
 
2012-09-25 02:09:57 PM  

JackieRabbit: smitty04: JackieRabbit: He isn't "Dubya Dumb," but he's no scholar either.

He earned a Bachelor of Arts from Brigham Young University and, in 1975, a joint Juris Doctor and Master of Business Administration from Harvard University. Can you top that? Joint degrees is damn difficult.

One does not need necessarily to be brilliant to earn a degree from Harvard. There are other ways to get in and get a degree, as many wealthy lads have discovered after daddy pulled the right strings. He's obviously smart. But never be overly impressed with a MBA (though Harvard has a rather good program). Many schools offer these for going to school on Saturdays for a year. The law degree from Harvard is more impressive; that isn't easy. But these are both professional - not academic - degrees. Hence my comment he's no scholar.


Y'know what? I agree. He's not a scholar, and that's really obvious.

But is being a scholar a requirement for being the president? Is the only 'right' way to view things through an academic lens?

/Full disclosure-- I'm not only a scholar, I'm pursuing two degrees at once at a celebrated liberal arts college! I just don't think that academia is the only way to learn to process and think about the world around us critically.
 
2012-09-25 02:10:38 PM  
Had Romney joked about putting screen doors on submarines, Liberals would be insisting that it might be a stupid idea from a stupid person.
 
2012-09-25 02:15:12 PM  

epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: Gyrfalcon: What makes me doubt it was a joke is the fact that he kept going with it. A real "joke" would have been "Yeah, the cabin filled with smoke; too bad they couldn't roll the windows down to get some air." PERIOD. Romney kept on going and going with it, like someone genuinely trying to get why the passengers couldn't let the smoke out.

Yep, none of what you would see from someone delivering a joke, "dry" or not, I agree. Oh well, it doesn't surprise me though. We DO seem to have hurt epoch_destroi's feelings, though.

Naw, I just have time before class to kill. ;)


StandUp 101?
 
2012-09-25 02:16:17 PM  
OK, so he can't roll down the window, but he can still tie his dog to the roof, right?
 
2012-09-25 02:20:22 PM  

The Southern Dandy: OK, so he can't roll down the window, but he can still tie his dog to the roof, right?


I the 1960's, I would allow my dog to ride in the back of the pickup, he loved it. Today they get seat-belts just like everyone else. You can not measure the past by today's standards.
 
2012-09-25 02:21:49 PM  

Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: Gyrfalcon: What makes me doubt it was a joke is the fact that he kept going with it. A real "joke" would have been "Yeah, the cabin filled with smoke; too bad they couldn't roll the windows down to get some air." PERIOD. Romney kept on going and going with it, like someone genuinely trying to get why the passengers couldn't let the smoke out.

Yep, none of what you would see from someone delivering a joke, "dry" or not, I agree. Oh well, it doesn't surprise me though. We DO seem to have hurt epoch_destroi's feelings, though.

Naw, I just have time before class to kill. ;)

StandUp 101?


Today? Advanced Haskell and Formal Logic.
 
2012-09-25 02:22:42 PM  
FTA: "Gravity tends to keep air molecules concentrated near the ground..."

WTF is an "air molecule?"
 
2012-09-25 02:23:10 PM  

epoch_destroi: JackieRabbit: smitty04: JackieRabbit: He isn't "Dubya Dumb," but he's no scholar either.

He earned a Bachelor of Arts from Brigham Young University and, in 1975, a joint Juris Doctor and Master of Business Administration from Harvard University. Can you top that? Joint degrees is damn difficult.

One does not need necessarily to be brilliant to earn a degree from Harvard. There are other ways to get in and get a degree, as many wealthy lads have discovered after daddy pulled the right strings. He's obviously smart. But never be overly impressed with a MBA (though Harvard has a rather good program). Many schools offer these for going to school on Saturdays for a year. The law degree from Harvard is more impressive; that isn't easy. But these are both professional - not academic - degrees. Hence my comment he's no scholar.

Y'know what? I agree. He's not a scholar, and that's really obvious.

But is being a scholar a requirement for being the president? Is the only 'right' way to view things through an academic lens?

/Full disclosure-- I'm not only a scholar, I'm pursuing two degrees at once at a celebrated liberal arts college! I just don't think that academia is the only way to learn to process and think about the world around us critically.


No, I'm not suggesting that a president needs to be a scholar. One scholar, Newt Gingrich, attempted the trick and that didn't work (and thank goodness; he would have been a horrible president). The closest we have come to having a scholar as president in many years is Jimmy Carter, who, while a brilliant and effective governor, proved to be much too detailed-oriented and "blue sky" of a thinker to be a really outstanding president.
 
2012-09-25 02:23:44 PM  
Please, let Romney take a flight on a plane with a window he can open at 30,000 feet. Please let him do this today if possible.
 
2012-09-25 02:24:01 PM  

epoch_destroi: neenerist: epoch_destroi: What I am here to argue is that he made a damn joke....

You appear here to argue that, contrary to the evidence of my own senses, that video (not a story) shows he delivered the line in a manner most would interpret as an obvious joke. Even if you're right about the intent, it displays a bizarre disconnect with how people perceive him and an inability to express himself with the clarity demanded of the highest office.

On the other hand "believe what I tell you, not what you see" has become a core Republican campaign motif.

Except...I saw the video? And he's clearly joking? Maybe it's a cultural thing-- a northern/upper class-to-rich humor style, but I have a lot of friends who deliver jokes exactly like that. We just have a very dry sense of humor, almost British in style.


I am not enamored with Romney but I try to keep an open mind when a candidate speaks 'cuz you never know when you will hear something you agree/disagree with from either side that may change how you feel about them. If I already have my mind made up I am sabotaging my own ability to make an informed decision.

I came into this after reading the transcript thinking he made a joke...A bad joke in poor taste and possibly with a poor delivery that did not translate well, much akin to my dry innappropriate sense of humor. (I make fun of terrible things)

I really don't see anything in the video that necessarily screams "THIS IS A JOKE". His expression never really goes from concern>fear>joke>ok back to serious...it is just well....(and I hate to be cliche') smug.

So now I am torn as to whether it is a joke or not.

What is NOT in question is that either way, it does further lower my opinion of him. 

Oh wait you said " a northern/upper class-to-rich humor style, but I have a lot of friends who deliver jokes exactly like that. We just have a very dry sense of humor, almost British in style." soooooo..... troll?
 
2012-09-25 02:24:56 PM  

JackieRabbit: epoch_destroi: JackieRabbit: smitty04: JackieRabbit: He isn't "Dubya Dumb," but he's no scholar either.

He earned a Bachelor of Arts from Brigham Young University and, in 1975, a joint Juris Doctor and Master of Business Administration from Harvard University. Can you top that? Joint degrees is damn difficult.

One does not need necessarily to be brilliant to earn a degree from Harvard. There are other ways to get in and get a degree, as many wealthy lads have discovered after daddy pulled the right strings. He's obviously smart. But never be overly impressed with a MBA (though Harvard has a rather good program). Many schools offer these for going to school on Saturdays for a year. The law degree from Harvard is more impressive; that isn't easy. But these are both professional - not academic - degrees. Hence my comment he's no scholar.

Y'know what? I agree. He's not a scholar, and that's really obvious.

But is being a scholar a requirement for being the president? Is the only 'right' way to view things through an academic lens?

/Full disclosure-- I'm not only a scholar, I'm pursuing two degrees at once at a celebrated liberal arts college! I just don't think that academia is the only way to learn to process and think about the world around us critically.

No, I'm not suggesting that a president needs to be a scholar. One scholar, Newt Gingrich, attempted the trick and that didn't work (and thank goodness; he would have been a horrible president). The closest we have come to having a scholar as president in many years is Jimmy Carter, who, while a brilliant and effective governor, proved to be much too detailed-oriented and "blue sky" of a thinker to be a really outstanding president.


That's...really reasonable and well-written! I totally agree. :)
 
2012-09-25 02:26:10 PM  

wiredroach: FTA: "Gravity tends to keep air molecules concentrated near the ground..."

WTF is an "air molecule?"


Nitrogen -- N2 -- 78.084%

Oxygen -- O2 -- 20.9476%

Argon -- Ar -- 0.934%

Carbon Dioxide -- CO2 -- 0.0314%

Neon -- Ne -- 0.001818%

Methane -- CH4 -- 0.0002%

Helium -- He -- 0.000524%

Krypton -- Kr -- 0.000114%

Hydrogen -- H2 -- 0.00005%

Xenon -- Xe -- 0.0000087%

Ozone -- O3 -- 0.000007%

Nitrogen Dioxide -- NO2 -- 0.000002%

Iodine -- I2 -- 0.000001%

Carbon Monoxide -- CO -- trace

Ammonia -- NH3 -- trace

Reference: CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, edited by David R. Lide, 1997.
 
2012-09-25 02:26:21 PM  

2KanZam: epoch_destroi: neenerist: epoch_destroi: What I am here to argue is that he made a damn joke....

You appear here to argue that, contrary to the evidence of my own senses, that video (not a story) shows he delivered the line in a manner most would interpret as an obvious joke. Even if you're right about the intent, it displays a bizarre disconnect with how people perceive him and an inability to express himself with the clarity demanded of the highest office.

On the other hand "believe what I tell you, not what you see" has become a core Republican campaign motif.

Except...I saw the video? And he's clearly joking? Maybe it's a cultural thing-- a northern/upper class-to-rich humor style, but I have a lot of friends who deliver jokes exactly like that. We just have a very dry sense of humor, almost British in style.

I am not enamored with Romney but I try to keep an open mind when a candidate speaks 'cuz you never know when you will hear something you agree/disagree with from either side that may change how you feel about them. If I already have my mind made up I am sabotaging my own ability to make an informed decision.

I came into this after reading the transcript thinking he made a joke...A bad joke in poor taste and possibly with a poor delivery that did not translate well, much akin to my dry innappropriate sense of humor. (I make fun of terrible things)

I really don't see anything in the video that necessarily screams "THIS IS A JOKE". His expression never really goes from concern>fear>joke>ok back to serious...it is just well....(and I hate to be cliche') smug.

So now I am torn as to whether it is a joke or not.

What is NOT in question is that either way, it does further lower my opinion of him. 

Oh wait you said " a northern/upper class-to-rich humor style, but I have a lot of friends who deliver jokes exactly like that. We just have a very dry sense of humor, almost British in style." soooooo..... troll?


...notttt a troll. But maybe my/my friend's humor style is far rarer than I had thought? Or Fark is full of people who purposely misunderstand things to create gaffes....

...could be both, hahhaa.
 
2012-09-25 02:27:50 PM  

epoch_destroi: tblax: epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: Are libs so ignorant of dry humor?

Name 10 conservative-leaning comedians

And since you asked:

Bill Cosby
Adam Sandler
Drew Carey
Ben Stein
Kelsey Grammer

Jeff Foxworthy
Larry the Cable Guy
Bill Engvall
Ron White
David Angelo


I only find fault with 2 of the names... Ben Stein IS funny, has acted in movies and had his little game show, but I'd never call him a comedian. Same with Kelsey Grammer. He's funny, but he's a comic actor, not a comedian.
 
2012-09-25 02:29:01 PM  

stonicus: epoch_destroi: tblax: epoch_destroi: Mikey1969: epoch_destroi: Are libs so ignorant of dry humor?

Name 10 conservative-leaning comedians

And since you asked:

Bill Cosby
Adam Sandler
Drew Carey
Ben Stein
Kelsey Grammer
Jeff Foxworthy
Larry the Cable Guy
Bill Engvall
Ron White
David Angelo

I only find fault with 2 of the names... Ben Stein IS funny, has acted in movies and had his little game show, but I'd never call him a comedian. Same with Kelsey Grammer. He's funny, but he's a comic actor, not a comedian.


That's a fair interpretation-- I took it a little looser, perhaps; I assumed he meant 'comic/comedian' rather than specifically 'stand-up comedian'.
 
2012-09-25 02:30:18 PM  
I could find two more if that would provide you with some peace of mind. ;) But I doubt that would provide any.
 
2012-09-25 02:34:35 PM  
Oh hai, DJ Kittypie here with some appropriately grotesque and funny music for the thread.

Cuz somebudy don't speeky Engrish too gud round here.
 
2012-09-25 02:36:37 PM  
NSFW MUSIC TOO!!!!

sorry, dumb cat forgot tag
 
2012-09-25 02:41:12 PM  

Kittypie070: Oh hai, DJ Kittypie here with some appropriately grotesque and funny music for the thread.

Cuz somebudy don't speeky Engrish too gud round here.




...nice racist imitation of a Chinese accent. christ on a cracker.
 
2012-09-25 02:53:06 PM  

JackieRabbit: You know, I actually kind of feel sorry for Mitt Romney. To begin, he really isn't that smart. He isn't "Dubya Dumb," but he's no scholar either. Next, Romney is not a conservative and never has been. He's actually a rare thing in the GOP these days: a slightly left-leaning moderate. When he threw his hat into the ring for the GOP nomination a lot of centrist Republicans and independents were please, since he offered a change to vote for someone who was not only an experienced and successful business man, but was a rather good governor. When Romney started, he really did sound like Mitt Romney: reasonable and balanced. But when it became apparent that he would be the nominee, the GOP strategists started to reel him in and insist that he embrace the tea party conservative platform. Romney has done this and it has become obvious that it has induced something of a cognitive dissonance in him. He keeps flubbing so badly because he really doesn't believe in the bullshiat he has to spew in order to placate the "GOP base." Well, the base was placated rather early on and now Romney's false conservative positions are coming back to haunt him (a la 47%). Barack Obama is now leading in every national poll of registered voters (by an average of three percent and the gap is widening rapidly) and we haven't even had the first debate yet. Those debates will be Romney's downfall. He simply cannot debate Obama on substance, since he has none. They hope is that he will be able to rattle "Mr. Cool" Obama. But that's a dim hope, since on one has succeeded in this yet.

If Romney keeps screwing up as badly as he has (he cannot afford to go safe; he must be aggressive and highly visible) and if he can't get control of his staff, to stop their in-fighting, we could be looking at an Obama mini-landslide, or at least a clear mandate. As soon as the GOP started moving him to the right, he should have bucked. This was his and John McCain's biggest mistake.


I wouldnt feel too sorry for him. I don't think the tea party reeled him is as much as he went courting their support to make sure he'd clinch the nomination. The Tea Party seemed to be running an anybody but Romney campaign. Cain, Bachman, Santorum. I think the Tea party would have been happy with any of those over Romney.
 
2012-09-25 02:58:24 PM  

smitty04: The Southern Dandy: OK, so he can't roll down the window, but he can still tie his dog to the roof, right?

I the 1960's, I would allow my dog to ride in the back of the pickup, he loved it. Today they get seat-belts just like everyone else. You can not measure the past by today's standards.


I don't judge by anyone's standards but my own, but there's a huge difference between letting your dog ride in the back of the pickup driving into town and putting your dog in a crate, strapping it to the roof of your car and driving cross country.
 
2012-09-25 02:59:15 PM  

JackieRabbit: smitty04: JackieRabbit: He isn't "Dubya Dumb," but he's no scholar either.

He earned a Bachelor of Arts from Brigham Young University and, in 1975, a joint Juris Doctor and Master of Business Administration from Harvard University. Can you top that? Joint degrees is damn difficult.

One does not need necessarily to be brilliant to earn a degree from Harvard. There are other ways to get in and get a degree, as many wealthy lads have discovered after daddy pulled the right strings. He's obviously smart. But never be overly impressed with a MBA (though Harvard has a rather good program). Many schools offer these for going to school on Saturdays for a year. The law degree from Harvard is more impressive; that isn't easy. But these are both professional - not academic - degrees. Hence my comment he's no scholar.


So, just for clarity :: President Obama also earned a J.D. from Harvard (but not in addition to an M.B.A.). Does he also represent a non-scholar, because his is not an "academic" degree?

Stated another way -- If one guy with 2 advanced "professional" degrees != a scholar, then another guy with fewer than 2 advanced "professional" degrees must also != a scholar. Right?? Shirley you see the issue.

/ Heave to, and stand by to hoist the petard!
 
2012-09-25 03:06:30 PM  

gilgigamesh: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

"Partly true" because "his tone and phrasing were obviously intended to be tongue in cheek"? The hell?

If he was joking, he deadpans it. I actually was sure he was joking until I saw the video last night. Now I don't know. It's a matter of conjecture. So I don't know how Snopes purports to get inside Mitt's positronic net and make a ruling based on his intent.


A "deadpan" delivery of an intentionally humourous statement nonetheless requires appropriate inflection and wording to be appropriately understood as an effort at levity. Mr. Romney's statement lacked both the inflection and the wording of such an attempt. I am prepared to accept that Mr. Romney's statement was intended in jest, but I nonetheless maintain that it was stated improperly.
 
2012-09-25 03:16:38 PM  
What i find funny is all of you assuming that all planes are pressurized when in fact the vast majority are not. You only need it when traveling above about 10k feet. In fact most airlines have windows that can be opened in the cockpit. Granted not when pressurized.....but silly people like you all assume so much. Also tae a lot of miliatry aircraft are not pressurized....its bad when a breach of the hull occurs....but gee i guess you silly people dont know nearly as much as you think.
 
2012-09-25 03:33:43 PM  

maxximillian: I wouldnt feel too sorry for him. I don't think the tea party reeled him is as much as he went courting their support to make sure he'd clinch the nomination. The Tea Party seemed to be running an anybody but Romney campaign. Cain, Bachman, Santorum. I think the Tea party would have been happy with any of those over Romney.


It wasn't the Tea Party who reeled him in. It was the GOP leadership. Obviously, Romney holds the tea partiers in the lowest of disdain. Now, the GOP didn't want Bachman, Cain or Santorum. They wanted Romney because of his potential to appeal to moderate independents and cross-over right-leaning Democrats. But, they didn't want to lose the tea partiers, who have become so large a constituent of their based. So between the time when the other candidates dropped out and the convention, Romney was slowly shifted to the right. As this happened, the extreme right wing became more comfortable with him, but he started losing ground with moderates.

In reality, the GOP leadership wouldn't piss on a tea partier if he was on fire. All they want from them is their votes. Then they become deadbeats to be ignored again.
 
2012-09-25 03:39:30 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Should have paid extra for a plane with those little drop-down emergency oxygen masks


are you crazy, man!?! oxygen masks? some terrorist could use those to start a bomb!!! I don't know exactly how ... but they do!!!
 
2012-09-25 03:42:27 PM  

Dimensio: gilgigamesh: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

"Partly true" because "his tone and phrasing were obviously intended to be tongue in cheek"? The hell?

If he was joking, he deadpans it. I actually was sure he was joking until I saw the video last night. Now I don't know. It's a matter of conjecture. So I don't know how Snopes purports to get inside Mitt's positronic net and make a ruling based on his intent.

A "deadpan" delivery of an intentionally humourous statement nonetheless requires appropriate inflection and wording to be appropriately understood as an effort at levity. Mr. Romney's statement lacked both the inflection and the wording of such an attempt. I am prepared to accept that Mr. Romney's statement was intended in jest, but I nonetheless maintain that it was stated improperly.




Leslie Nielsen was a master of the comedic deadpan delivery. It was the combination of the delivery with the overall context of the scene that made it hilarious.

Mitt Romney, on the other hand, was not trying to be funny.
 
2012-09-25 03:44:26 PM  

pute kisses like a man: valkore: FTFA: At 35,000 ft. (11,000 m), the typical altitude of a commercial jet, the air pressure drops to less than a quarter of its value at sea level, and the outside temperature drops below negative 60 degrees Fahrenheit (negative 51 degrees Celsius), according to The Engineering Toolbox. Exposed to such conditions, you would quickly die.

So if you're up in the air at 35,000 feet and a window blows out, you'll have plenty of oxygen from the mask to breathe until you quickly freeze to death. Or does it take a while for the cabin temperature to change in this scenario? I'm sure there are reams of data out there about this subject.

at what altitude did the flying fortresses fly? I remember reading stories about gunners, after their little bubbles were bursted, having their blood freeze while it fell from their body to the floor. and they survived somehow.

although, that was probably more than 15,000 feet lower. man, being a gunner in a bomber sounded like a really shiatty job.


I remember reading a story where the belly gunner was stuck in his bubble and the pilot couldn't get the landing gears up (all due to battle damage). so in order to land the plane, they had to ... well ... turn the belly gunner into a skid mark.

//war is hell
 
2012-09-25 03:54:54 PM  

aesirx: I remember reading a story where the belly gunner was stuck in his bubble and the pilot couldn't get the landing gears up (all due to battle damage). so in order to land the plane, they had to ... well ... turn the belly gunner into a skid mark.


Jeeze... I'm pretty sure I'd need therapy after that if I were that pilot.
 
2012-09-25 03:59:18 PM  
I've seen the tape and it doesn't seem like he's joking. We've all seen badly delivered jokes, unfunny jokes, jokes with bad timing, jokes from somebody uncomfortable telling a joke but doing it because it's in the speech, etc. But no matter how badly delivered, you realize that the person was trying to tell a joke. This Romney comment, there's no sense that he's trying to tell a joke but doing a poor job of it. It really doesn't seem like a joke attempt.
 
2012-09-25 04:07:54 PM  
wow.. if someone is going to release an article to show why Romney is an idiot, it better be a competent article, this one fell short...

the line about keeping the cabin pressurized so passengers get enough oxygen is fine, but the next line about how its also for maintaining temperature is misleading and should have just been left off.

the phrase "air molecules" is also misleading, and anyone with any science class under their belt knows that air is composed of a combination of molecules, namely N2 and O2 as has already been pointed out here.

then gravity is responsible for density decreasing as you get higher in altitude, but is only part of the story because temperature also decreases with altitude due to distance from the warm earth surface. Both of these are responsible for the lower temperature and pressure at 30,000ft.

so yes, the danger of opening a window is exposing passengers to atmospheric conditions at 30,000 ft and has nothing to do with air speed, though it would be loud I'd imagine, I'd be more worried about breathing than hearing.

anyway, my two cents, probably better ways to say it still.. any meteorologists here?
 
2012-09-25 04:09:38 PM  
Gravity tends to keep air molecules concentrated near the ground, so the atmosphere thins out as you go up.

Meh, gravity is just a theory... Teach the controversy!
 
2012-09-25 04:24:39 PM  

smitty04: Reference: CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, edited by David R. Lide, 1997.


Right...air comprises a bunch of kinds of molecules, but there is no "air molecule." Might as well have said something like "that building is composed of steel atoms."
 
2012-09-25 04:25:03 PM  

RobSeace: Gravity tends to keep air molecules concentrated near the ground, so the atmosphere thins out as you go up.

Meh, gravity is just a theory... Teach the controversy!


Da Grabity man is trying to keep you down main! You gotsa fight back against this oppression of our bruthas!
 
2012-09-25 04:31:55 PM  

Ishidan: HideMonkey: luvtinayothers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp

Dang. I was kind of enjoying thinking he'd stepped on his dick again. But that video looks like he was trying to make a joke.

Well then his delivery sucks, and it wasn't funny.


Give him a break, man... It's like when Data was first learning about humor... It took him a while to get it and be able to make anyone else laugh...

/Someone send Joe Piscapo to meet with Romney, stat!
 
2012-09-25 04:34:41 PM  
This is petty.
 
2012-09-25 04:39:01 PM  

smitty04: wiredroach: FTA: "Gravity tends to keep air molecules concentrated near the ground..."

WTF is an "air molecule?"

Nitrogen -- N2 -- 78.084%

Oxygen -- O2 -- 20.9476%

Argon -- Ar -- 0.934%

Carbon Dioxide -- CO2 -- 0.0314%

Neon -- Ne -- 0.001818%

Methane -- CH4 -- 0.0002%

Helium -- He -- 0.000524%

Krypton -- Kr -- 0.000114%

Hydrogen -- H2 -- 0.00005%

Xenon -- Xe -- 0.0000087%

Ozone -- O3 -- 0.000007%

Nitrogen Dioxide -- NO2 -- 0.000002%

Iodine -- I2 -- 0.000001%

Carbon Monoxide -- CO -- trace

Ammonia -- NH3 -- trace

Reference: CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, edited by David R. Lide, 1997.


This is a democracy. Nitrogen is obviously the winner.
 
2012-09-25 04:52:55 PM  

cman: Weaver95: I honestly can't tell if Romney is simply ignorant or if he just doesn't realize what he sounds like to other people....

Ignorance. I cannot fathom any other possibility


fathom this: his point was that there should be some way to clear smoke out of a cabin once the plan has reached a low enough altitude to be safe
 
2012-09-25 05:19:28 PM  
I would argue that Mitt is a solid man who is capable of many gut-worthy thoughts.

Unlike the elitist Obama Mitt is a man who can and will do his own laundry on demand, long sleeves and all.

Middle class, he could be fuzzy on that, he chose a random low number between 200 and 250k, that works.

And why can't jet airplanes have roll down windows in case of fire, it only makes sense, necessity is the mother of invention after all.

If some states see the best care for the uninsured, who are we to say that is a bad policy. Are you an elitiist who thinks you can factually say one policy works and one does not. That sounds elitist to me.

Mitt was smart enough to not go into production but saw the future was in finance.

Early on offered young Chinese women opportunities in Chinese factories making American goods a long time before Steve jobs did.

Mitt is capable of smart, solid decisions that come straight from the gut. Mitt is the the man and does not overthink things like Obama does.

I bet he knows enough to delegate disaster relief to his secretaries without oversight in the even of regional emergencies as well.
 
2012-09-25 05:32:45 PM  

threedingers: Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.

Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke. About a potentially life threatening situation that his wife was in, and done so in his typically awkward, uncomfortable manner, but a joke nonetheless.


Agreed. Anyone who is not a total Tool who listens to the tape IN CONTEXT will know this.

All the hysteria over this says a lot more about the people doing it than it does about Romney.
 
2012-09-25 05:40:36 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: threedingers: Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.

Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke. About a potentially life threatening situation that his wife was in, and done so in his typically awkward, uncomfortable manner, but a joke nonetheless.

Agreed. Anyone who is not a total Tool who listens to the tape IN CONTEXT will know this.

All the hysteria over this says a lot more about the people doing it than it does about Romney.


It certainly says something about the people defending him...
 
2012-09-25 06:22:33 PM  

epoch_destroi: Except...I saw the video? And he's clearly joking? Maybe it's a cultural thing-- a northern/upper class-to-rich humor style, but I have a lot of friends who deliver jokes exactly like that. We just have a very dry sense of humor, almost British in style.


Uh, no. While I agree that he appeared to be attempting a joke, it was in no way "British in style". It wasn't dry humour, it was poorly timed, with unamusing subject matter and weak delivery. The crass and unfunny always retreat to the dryness of their jokes being the reason that they don't get a laugh when in reality it's simply that they're not funny in the slightest. All you've said here is that you hang out with some really unfunny people.
 
2012-09-25 06:38:55 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: you wanted to believe that Mitt was the golden child sent to save the Republican party's legislative agenda.

I was never a fan of Romney, my vote for him is purely and vote against the administration and their policies. I am voting FOR Paul Ryan however.


Talk about out of the pan and into the fire; you'd be better off supporting R-Money the Paul-90Sux
 
2012-09-25 07:03:11 PM  
Dear Free_Chilly_Willy:

This is a friendly note from Kittypie to you.

If you don't like Romney, then vote Gary Johnson.

If you vote for Ryan you are going to have Romney glued onto Ryan
whether you want him or not and you have said that you do not.

Vote Gary Johnson!

:3
 
2012-09-25 07:03:40 PM  
Frankly, I'm stunned. First the "rape rape" bio-defense gaffe, then this "I don't understand why they don't allow airliner passengers to open the windows." Double facepalm. True, the above statements were made by two separate people, but the retardation and pure moranicy still shines forth. Not only is he out of touch with the working man and woman, but apparently out of touch with reality as well. And no..I'm not voting for him, and even before the gaffs I had planned not to. One has to wonder if Toby Zegler had been his speechwriter and he said this in public, what would Toby have done? I believe his head would have exploded.
 
2012-09-25 07:45:57 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: I was never a fan of Romney, my vote for him is purely and vote against the administration and their policies.


I know it's been beaten to death, but this, RIGHT HERE, is what is wrong with American politics. God forfarking bid we find someone CAPABLE of RUNNING A GODDAMN COUNTRY, let's just get the current moron out of office, we'll deal with the next moron in four years.

/NOT necessarily an endorsement for Ron Paul
//Rhetorical question- who was our last "good" president? I'd say FDR, if only to confuse people who think he was a member of the same Republican party as Nixon and Reagan...
 
2012-09-25 07:47:12 PM  
Misread the headline as saying "plate windows", was very confused.
 
2012-09-25 08:19:20 PM  
Wait, this is from Yahoo! "News"? Seems a little "out of left field" for them, ifyouknowhatimean...

Yahoo! News, news for Yahoos. I literally die a little bit inside whenever I read the comment threads. And that's coming from Fark. (And yes, I know what "literally" means. Yahoo! news gave me cancer.)
 
2012-09-25 08:43:16 PM  

leonel: Yeah I'm no fan of Romney myself but I admit I haven't seen the video and don't know if it was a joke or not now.


Do we really want a President that can't tell a joke? Seriously, socializing is the next most important thing after 'resist pushing the red candy like button' and not spilling your martini after knocking back a few. Um... wait a minute. Romney's Mormon, he'll never make it in international relations. Think of the embarrassment, Putin wheeling Romney back up to the white house in a shopping cart at 4am.
 
2012-09-25 08:43:52 PM  

reillan: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: threedingers: Shadowknight: Headso: I like to make fun of Romney as much as the next lib but were the comments he made done so jokingly or something? I am not familiar with this one...

That's what I'm asking. I know he actually said the words. But I want to hear how he said them. The inflection used, you know? Because I've said things a lot like this in thick sarcasm.

Yeah, he was attempting to make a joke. About a potentially life threatening situation that his wife was in, and done so in his typically awkward, uncomfortable manner, but a joke nonetheless.

Agreed. Anyone who is not a total Tool who listens to the tape IN CONTEXT will know this.

All the hysteria over this says a lot more about the people doing it than it does about Romney.

It certainly says something about the people defending him...


Strange as it may seem to your brainwashed little mind, Truth does not depend on politics. Have you, you know, actually listened to the whole tape?
 
2012-09-25 09:42:19 PM  
Apparently Mitt Romney's lack of clearly articulated domestic and foreign policy ideas are much less of a liability to him than something he said about an airplane. I see we are under no compulsion to educate the public on governance and policy this election cycle.

Joke didn't "land." Also, Ann didn't die, so Mitt didn't have to dip into his harem of sister wives. Now can we please move on and actually consider some issue that has any relevance or use vis-a-vis the US presidency?

I'm just imagining Lewis Black having a conniption or Dennis Miller ranting about the insanity of debating whether a comment about airplane windows was a joke or not. 40 or so days until an election and Rachel Maddow is doing the hard investigative work on airplane windows. Snopes is debunking airplane window comments. Republicans are defending Mitt Romney's airplane window joke. Embassies are burning, $16,000,000,000,000 in debt, gay marriage issues are divisive and problematic, government-mandated medical insurance, marijuana legalization, Iran is threatening to unleash a nuclear holocaust, people are unemployed, food and gas prices are increasing while salaries are not, the Fed is printing money like they're playing a game of farking Monopoly, and we're talking about farking airplane windows???

Peace, I'm outta here. I'm going to the hospital to get treatment for the aneurysm that just burst in my brain. I seriously cannot handle this level of idiocy.
 
2012-09-25 10:32:48 PM  

JackieRabbit: ...(quite intelligent commentary)....

If Romney keeps screwing up as badly as he has (he cannot afford to go safe; he must be aggressive and highly visible) and if he can't get control of his staff, to stop their in-fighting, we could be looking at an Obama mini-landslide, or at least a clear mandate. As soon as the GOP started moving him to the right, he should have bucked. This was his and John McCain's biggest mistake.


I read your comments and kept wanting to jump in where you were totally wrong, but you've really answered all of the questions I felt you raised with your further comments. Intelligent stuff, well done.

It's the same in Australia. We have an unpopular Labor (ie social-democrat) government, and a conservative opposition leader who turns a hell of a lot of people off. Admittedly, our society is about half-a-step to the left of US society on most issues. We also have a relatively centrist moderate politician who is part of the conservative party (called the Liberal party, just to confuse Americans, but it's a centre-right grouping) who previously led the Liberal party in opposition, and who seemed somewhat unpalatable to conservative business leaders but would have been much more popular with the electorate had he lead the opposition to an election. He seems to be the equivalent fo the 'true' Romney you describe (is also a multi-millionaire after a lucrative business career). But unlike Romney, at least as you describe him, our guy is true to his values on most issues.

If you can't be true with the electorate about yourself, it's indicative of some major problems. Your description of this as Romney's (and McCain's) biggest mistake is excellent.
 
2012-09-26 01:50:06 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: I know he was thinking of his wife and her choking on smoke, but "letting oxygen in" is the dumbest thing to do when you suspect there is a fire.


I wonder if airplanes have oxygen tanks.
 
2012-09-26 02:06:02 AM  
FTFA: Update: Romney was joking. The New York Times' Ashley Parker, who wrote the original report about the Beverly Hills fundraiser that quickly got spread around the Web, told New York Magazine today that Romney had been joking. Parker said that while her report didn't explicitly indicate Romney was joking, "it was clear from the context" that he was.

That's it? Lame, lame, lame!
 
2012-09-26 02:13:19 AM  

Bucky Katt: FTFA: Update: Romney was joking. The New York Times' Ashley Parker, who wrote the original report about the Beverly Hills fundraiser that quickly got spread around the Web, told New York Magazine today that Romney had been joking. Parker said that while her report didn't explicitly indicate Romney was joking, "it was clear from the context" that he was.

That's it? Lame, lame, lame!


I haven't watched the video but many comments in the thread say they if it was a joke, his delivery sucked. Sounds like the publication and/or the journalist has been leaned on by Romney's camp about the report. It's not rocket science Mitt - if you're making a speech with many serious points, and you're including a joke, you need to differentiate the non-serious from the serious in your delivery. No need to do this if it's all obviously gags (eg at one of those Whitehouse press dinner thingos).
 
2012-09-26 07:55:43 AM  

Bucky Katt: FTFA: Update: Romney was joking. The New York Times' Ashley Parker, who wrote the original report about the Beverly Hills fundraiser that quickly got spread around the Web, told New York Magazine today that Romney had been joking. Parker said that while her report didn't explicitly indicate Romney was joking, "it was clear from the context" that he was.

That's it? Lame, lame, lame!


I too often say I was joking after sticking my entire leg in my mouth.
 
2012-09-26 01:47:29 PM  

jaylectricity: Warthog: There are so many things wrong with this. Not with the details in the article, but with the fact that the article was even necessary.

Not everybody is as smart as you. Matter of fact, just the fact that you know how to use the internet, open register a user name, pay for a subscription and post in a forum puts you ahead of 47% of the country in terms of intelligence.


and if you figure out how not to pay for a subscription, you'll make it past the other 53% as well.
 
2012-09-26 02:09:57 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Strange as it may seem to your brainwashed little mind, Truth does not depend on politics. Have you, you know, actually listened to the whole tape?


Yes, and I have, you know, a degree in rhetoric... based on my education and understanding of how comedy works (which is what I focused on), there's no way that was intended comically. He genuinely seemed clueless, in my actually-an-expert opinion.
 
2012-09-26 08:09:19 PM  

reillan: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Strange as it may seem to your brainwashed little mind, Truth does not depend on politics. Have you, you know, actually listened to the whole tape?

Yes, and I have, you know, a degree in rhetoric... based on my education and understanding of how comedy works (which is what I focused on), there's no way that was intended comically. He genuinely seemed clueless, in my actually-an-expert opinion.


A degree in rhetoric?

Wow. Useful, I guess, in pushing agendas on Fark.

>>>>>He genuinely seemed clueless, in my actually-an-expert opinion.

Sure.
 
2012-09-27 12:47:23 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: reillan: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Strange as it may seem to your brainwashed little mind, Truth does not depend on politics. Have you, you know, actually listened to the whole tape?

Yes, and I have, you know, a degree in rhetoric... based on my education and understanding of how comedy works (which is what I focused on), there's no way that was intended comically. He genuinely seemed clueless, in my actually-an-expert opinion.

A degree in rhetoric?

Wow. Useful, I guess, in pushing agendas on Fark.

>>>>>He genuinely seemed clueless, in my actually-an-expert opinion.

Sure.


Snert. Politics aside:

Expert == get paid, certified, industry/peer recognition, etc.
Focused on "how comedy works" in college != Expert
Degree in the art of discourse == possibly an expert in being, you know, clueless.

(currently: published M.C.S. student. Though not quite an expert, I have spent counless hours Occupying the lab. However, I did not not stay in a Holiday Inn Express)
 
2012-09-27 01:13:42 AM  

KyDave: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: reillan: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Strange as it may seem to your brainwashed little mind, Truth does not depend on politics. Have you, you know, actually listened to the whole tape?

Yes, and I have, you know, a degree in rhetoric... based on my education and understanding of how comedy works (which is what I focused on), there's no way that was intended comically. He genuinely seemed clueless, in my actually-an-expert opinion.

A degree in rhetoric?

Wow. Useful, I guess, in pushing agendas on Fark.

>>>>>He genuinely seemed clueless, in my actually-an-expert opinion.

Sure.

Snert. Politics aside:

Expert == get paid, certified, industry/peer recognition, etc.
Focused on "how comedy works" in college != Expert
Degree in the art of discourse == possibly an expert in being, you know, clueless.

(currently: published M.C.S. student. Though not quite an expert, I have spent counless hours Occupying the lab. However, I did not not stay in a Holiday Inn Express)


Stop, stop, stop..... Let me catch my breath for god's sake. So... (giggle) what's the title of your post-doctorate thesis.......?? LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLL OLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLO LLOL......
 
2012-09-27 03:47:04 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: KyDave: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: reillan: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Strange as it may seem to your brainwashed little mind, Truth does not depend on politics. Have you, you know, actually listened to the whole tape?

Yes, and I have, you know, a degree in rhetoric... based on my education and understanding of how comedy works (which is what I focused on), there's no way that was intended comically. He genuinely seemed clueless, in my actually-an-expert opinion.

A degree in rhetoric?
Wow. Useful, I guess, in pushing agendas on Fark.
>>>>>He genuinely seemed clueless, in my actually-an-expert opinion.
Sure.

Snert. Politics aside:
Expert == get paid, certified, industry/peer recognition, etc.
Focused on "how comedy works" in college != Expert
Degree in the art of discourse == possibly an expert in being, you know, clueless.
(currently: published M.C.S. student. Though not quite an expert, I have spent counless hours Occupying the lab. However, I did not not stay in a Holiday Inn Express)

Stop, stop, stop..... Let me catch my breath for god's sake. So... (giggle) what's the title of your post-doctorate thesis.......?? LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLL OLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLO LLOL......


I'm torn between confronting the challenges of data analytics relative to so-called 'Big Data' (which must be a bad thing to the liberal mind, lololol) and investigating refinements to the public key/private key exchange mechanism in cyptography.

My published works [note: plural] are in the general field of information security (DOI numbers pending assignment).

/ Heck, might do both. You know, just for grins and giggles
// see also: Link

(/threadjack)
 
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