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(My Fox Phoenix)   Phoenix mayor lives off food stamp budget for a week, finds out his actions have consequences to people other than him. "Occasionally I'd have a cup of coffee and skip a meal in order to make it through"   (myfoxphoenix.com) divider line 44
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2012-09-25 01:51:59 PM
6 votes:
ITT: people desperate to prove how awesome they are at buying groceries, cooking, and eating, unintentionally argue against helping poor people.

It doesn't matter if you're a supergenius at buying food, or love eating rice or beans, or are a human snake that eats one meal a day, can you at least admit living on food stamps SUCKS and we should strive to help poor people to actually eat?

We have Americans, and American children, that go to bed hungry. All you're doing with your math simulations is making Republican's "fark the poor" arguments for them.
2012-09-25 01:34:19 PM
4 votes:

Godscrack: Yeah, nice clothes mayor. I bet he drove to to Basha's in his SUV.

He should try taking a bus, or walking to the store.

What? No Basha's near your house?

Now go to the stores that are closest to you, and take what you get.

Aww, they don;t have 'organic' or healthier versions of the food you like. Tough shiat.

What? who will watch the kids? Take them with you.

What? It's a bad neighborhood?

What? you're disabled and can't get to a store?

What? What? What?


I agree with your points. All of them. But so many politicians are so out of touch with 'just getting by' means that it is nice to see one try. Even if it is just enough to 'get it'.
2012-09-25 11:40:15 AM
4 votes:
The goal of the challenge was to make elected leaders more understanding when making decisions that affect people living in difficult circumstances.

"I think it worked in that regard, I think it will make me a better policy maker," Mayor Stanton said.



That's my mayor. Good on you mayor. Finally, I get to be proud of an Arizona politician that represents me.
2012-09-25 05:00:22 PM
3 votes:
Arizona native here, thought I should pipe-in.

My family was middle class then fell on hard times when I was very young. My father absolutely refused to go on food stamps.

I would say that decision was in error.

I cam from a large family and often the only *complete* meal I would get would be at lunch. Breakfast became a distant memory. Thank god at some of the different houses I grew up in there were trees that bore fruit. My point of bringing this up is not to say "whoa was me", but rather to explain that regardless of what side of the political fence you're on, children should NOT go to bed hungry, period. Not in this country. We're better than that - or at least, we should be.
2012-09-25 01:20:00 PM
3 votes:
One week, huh?  Try doing it for a year.
2012-09-25 01:16:30 PM
3 votes:
Yeah, nice clothes mayor. I bet he drove to to Basha's in his SUV.

He should try taking a bus, or walking to the store.

What? No Basha's near your house?

Now go to the stores that are closest to you, and take what you get.

Aww, they don;t have 'organic' or healthier versions of the food you like. Tough shiat.

What? who will watch the kids? Take them with you.

What? It's a bad neighborhood?

What? you're disabled and can't get to a store?

What? What? What?
Pud [TotalFark]
2012-09-25 11:34:39 AM
3 votes:
Now if we could only convince a few Congress Critters to live off of Social Security and Medicaid alone for a year we might actually get somewhere.
2012-09-25 01:56:19 PM
2 votes:
Number 2: You have the right to food money
Providing of course you
Don't mind a little
Humiliation, investigation
And if you cross your fingers
Rehabilitation!
2012-09-25 01:43:02 PM
2 votes:

unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.


Both are true. The agency I worked for had lots of people on SSA/SSI and they had $30-40 a week for food. You can stretch it a long way buying bulk items, sale items and stuff like day-old bread.

The problem is that you need toiletries, dish soap, paper products, cleaning supplies...those can really eat up your grocery budget.
2012-09-25 11:35:51 AM
2 votes:
Next month the mayor is going to smoke crack and give handies for booze in order to understand how closing of treatment centers hurts addicts.

Later, he's going to burn dinner and have Chuck Lidell beat the shiat out of him so he understand the impact of under funding women's shelters.

And finally, he's going to farking shoot himself so he can understand how the medical insurance system works.

farking retarded. You don't have to 'live in someone's shoes' to figure shiat out.
2012-09-26 09:25:48 AM
1 votes:

gerrymander: Citrate1007: gerrymander: Was this another one of those bullshiat "challenges" that doesn't allow the use of salt and spices already present in the household, or the resale of items purchased with food program money, or any of the other things people on government food assistance programs actually do?

Exactly, because spices and staples are free, plus the black market for goods readily available in grocery stores has a 3000% markup.

/you're a farking idiot

Hey, thanks for the ad hominem, you and the others! Here's the thing: salt and one spice (pepper) ARE free -- or so close as to make no odds. Really. You can go into almost any fast food restaurant and snag a week's worth of either. No need to spend a third of your pauper's budget on a few month's worth of them. Or do you think that poor people are just too principled to do so?

And that's presuming you sprung fully-emerged from the head of some angry god into an adult life of poverty, with no one who would give you a salt/pepper shaker set -- not a mother or aunt, not a local food pantry, not a church program for the poor, not the same damn kitchen you still use after losing your job and requiring food assistance.

Then again, maybe your experience is different from mine. Tell me -- do the people you know/have heard of that have gone on government food programs thrown out all the food and spices from their kitchen when they did?

The rules on the "can you live on $X dollars" challenges I looked in to are ridiculously restrictive, to the point of not not coming anywhere close to what people on government assistance programs do. They are designed to make people fail -- and fail DIFFERENTLY than the people truly receiving government assistance. That makes them bad models, and foolish games. Holding them up as validation for anything but one's own do-gooder affirmation is a waste of time.


If you're advocating theft as necessary to survive on food stamps then I believe the point of the article has been made.
2012-09-26 08:30:24 AM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Are all poor children fed, clothed and housed now?


If they live in the United States of America, and they aren't, then we all should be ashamed of ourselves...everyone of us.

/also thanks for the non-answer earlier.
2012-09-25 08:16:36 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: rewind2846: NotARocketScientist:
Since national defense spending is 1/3 of the total national budget, and medicare/medicaid/social security makes up another 1/3, I stopped reading your tirade here as it is not possible for it to be that high. In addition, it is well known that corporate welfare dwarfs that of individuals.

People wouldn't be this poor and in need if they were paid a living wage.
People wouldn't be this poor and in need if they were paid a living wage.
People wouldn't be this poor and in need if they were paid a living wage.

THIS. MANY BEARS. AGAIN AND AGAIN.

So people should be paid more than their work is worth just to meet some arbitrary "living wage" number?


It's either that or expand our social safety net to be larger than it already is in order to ensure all citizens' basic needs are met. It's what most of the rest of the developed world likes to call "being a civilized society."
2012-09-25 06:06:36 PM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: hasty ambush: Because the programs are not working but the left is against reforming them even trying new ones. The only thing the left can argue is that we need to throw more money at them

And the only thing the right can argue is that we should get rid of them. So, which is worse, keeping broken programs that could be improved but still manage to help some people, or tossing them out altogether and giving a big "fark you" to the people that use those programs? It's like having a special needs child. The left is the parent who says, "I just don't know what to do!" The right is the parent who says "Child? I don't have a child" moves out of the house and files for divorce.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather go with the group that is somewhat (or even mostly) ineffectual at helping than the group that treats helping people as if it were the worst possible thing a human being could do with their time.

Nonsense, we had this same debate in the mid 1990s. The left does not want any change that undermines their ability to buy votes withe welfare checks.
The GOP wanted to go with block grant system to the states instead of this inefficent one size fits all stupidty we have now that basicaly funds a huge bureacracy with only 30 cents of every welfare dollar reaching a recipient

Compare that to private charity

Charity Navigator (www.charitynavigator.org), the
newest of several private sector organizations that rate charities by
various criteria and supply that information to the public on their
web sites, found that, as of 2004, 70 percent of charities they rated
spent at least 75 percent of their budgets on the programs and services
they exist to provide, and 90 percent spent at least 65 percent.
The median administrative expense among all charities in their sample
was only 10.3 percent.

But no lets just keep doing things he way we are now and keep throwing money at these government programs.


So tell, us , before these awful government programs existed, were those private charities adequately addressing the needs of the poor? Were all poor children fed clothed and housed?
2012-09-25 04:49:23 PM
1 votes:
Combined federal and state means-tested welfare is now the second-largest category of overall government spending in the nation. It is exceeded only by the combined cost of Social Security and Medicare. Welfare spending is greater than the cost of public education and is greater than spending on national defense.

Since national defense spending is 1/3 of the total national budget, and medicare/medicaid/social security makes up another 1/3, I stopped reading your tirade here as it is not possible for it to be that high. In addition, it is well known that corporate welfare dwarfs that of individuals.

People wouldn't be this poor and in need if they were paid a living wage. This problem was seeded back in the 80s when businesses stopped giving raises for increased production. Now you have the very poor and the very rich. The rich became that way from not paying good wages and now resent having to shell out a couple bucks so that the people they cheated don't starve to death.
2012-09-25 04:33:42 PM
1 votes:
I just got my EBT card on Friday, so I'm getting a kick...

My favorite trick is to pick up a $10 pack of chicken breasts. Toss them in the crock pot with a bunch of spices, and if I freeze half, I've got all the meat I need for a week or more. Add it to ramen, get a $1 can of refried beans, $3 bag of cheese, and a $2 bag of tortilla chips to make nachos, or mix it with rice and frozen veggies.

Various flavors of Cheerios have been on sale for $2.25 a box. So I've been stocking up. Also, a $3 container of Crystal Light drink mix makes 3 gallons.

$200 a month is a bit of a squeeze, but I think I'll be able to make it. Its one of the few times I'm glad I'm single.
2012-09-25 04:10:49 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: In FY 2011, total means-tested spending going to families with children was about $470 billion. If this sum were divided equally among the lowest-income one-third of families with children (around 14 million families), the result would be around $33,000 per low-income family with c ...

THIS



BTW, I find all the positions in that post highly suspect, but I dont have the time/desire to research it, However, ,(and I think it was said before) ending these programs without replacement, would do irreparable harm...and possibly overthrow the American way of life. All I ever hear is about moochers and parasites and fark you , I got mine.

What do you propose to put in these program's place?
2012-09-25 04:01:58 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: So he lost four pounds in a week on food stamps. Figure the average poor person starts out weighing about 200 pounds. If we give them food stamps for less than a year, the problem of poor people will go away.


Tell you what, bud, you go out and spend 29$ in stores less than an hour away. We'll count the calories and take away all that bad-for-you food like ramen or boxed dinners. You can eat what's left over for the rest of the week.

Wonder how 'spiced air' sounds for dinner?

/Poverty creates obesity because cheap food is shiat food. Correlation is not farking causation. Do not confuse them, even if this is backwards from how we normally think of it.
2012-09-25 04:00:54 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: In FY 2011, total means-tested spending going to families with children was about $470 billion. If this sum were divided equally among the lowest-income one-third of families with children (around 14 million families), the result would be around $33,000 per low-income family with c ...

THIS



You mean you think that if this was proposed as an alternative, the answer wouldn't be

"No! Because SOCIALISM!"
?

/I wonder where the free 'means testing' would come from
2012-09-25 03:59:07 PM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Because the programs are not working but the left is against reforming them even trying new ones. The only thing the left can argue is that we need to throw more money at them


And the only thing the right can argue is that we should get rid of them. So, which is worse, keeping broken programs that could be improved but still manage to help some people, or tossing them out altogether and giving a big "fark you" to the people that use those programs? It's like having a special needs child. The left is the parent who says, "I just don't know what to do!" The right is the parent who says "Child? I don't have a child" moves out of the house and files for divorce.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather go with the group that is somewhat (or even mostly) ineffectual at helping than the group that treats helping people as if it were the worst possible thing a human being could do with their time.
2012-09-25 03:38:36 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Philip Francis Queeg: Silly Jesus: From what I've seen, most of the moochers and parasites could stand to lose a few pounds anyway.

I don't think Anne Romney is fat.

Stay at home mothers are parasites? Nifty.


Mitt Romney thinks so.
2012-09-25 03:05:12 PM
1 votes:

I alone am best: doloresonthedottedline:
If you mean a red wagon, I.. Hmm. I'm not sure how that would work in Kroger. Or on the bricks. Or on all the things I'd have to lift it over to get it inside the gate at my apartment and get it either in and out of the basement storage or up to the third story where my kitchen is

It might be a little bit of extra work but if your looking at a little bit of extra work or being hungry a little bit of extra work will look pretty good.

No store is going to stop you from bring in a wagon. If you can fit into the gate you can fit the wagon in. They don't weigh that much when they are empty it would be easy to take it from the basement to the first floor or vice versa.

It sounds to me like the area you live in is not condusive to your lifestyle.


I moved here from rural Kentucky.
I can walk to a grocery store, a pharmacy, and a few cheap take-out places.
I have a bus system.
The weather is great for walking everywhere.
The area I live is very low crime and safe for walking and people are incredibly helpful and polite, I've had tons of offers to help carry my groceries when people saw me struggling or to help me home when I had cataplexy in public.

You'd have a hard time finding a better place for me to live.

But I have to take Adderall which kills my appetite and narcolepsy gives me a low metabolism, so I tend to stretch my budget by just eating way less, and getting really cheap stuff from the Kroger bakery section when it marked down about to go back, or the cheap bags of candy, to get enough calories. And take vitamins.
2012-09-25 02:45:42 PM
1 votes:

doloresonthedottedline:
If you mean a red wagon, I.. Hmm. I'm not sure how that would work in Kroger. Or on the bricks. Or on all the things I'd have to lift it over to get it inside the gate at my apartment and get it either in and out of the basement storage or up to the third story where my kitchen is


It might be a little bit of extra work but if your looking at a little bit of extra work or being hungry a little bit of extra work will look pretty good.

No store is going to stop you from bring in a wagon. If you can fit into the gate you can fit the wagon in. They don't weigh that much when they are empty it would be easy to take it from the basement to the first floor or vice versa.

It sounds to me like the area you live in is not condusive to your lifestyle.
2012-09-25 02:45:23 PM
1 votes:

doloresonthedottedline: My apartment has no dirt other than what I buy to put in a pot. I tried a container garden but I live in Savannah and I'd have to water them several times a day (brutal sun and heat) and my porch is on a different story than any source of water.

I don't have a car because I can't legally drive, and live downtown. So I can't get to a place to fish without spending so much it wouldn't really save anything.

I live cheap most of the time but have multiple medical bills and have to keep fairly regular doctors appointments for my medications. I'm not on food stamps, because my parents help me, but seriously. Yes, there are some great ways to stretch a budget. No, that doesn't mean those tricks are available for everyone.



Not to mention that I alone am best neglected to include the cost of his cooler, fishing pole and cleaning knife and original garden set-up costs in his calculations.
2012-09-25 02:42:16 PM
1 votes:

wee: I used to live on $35/week for food. It sucks, but it can be done. You'll wind up hating beans and rice, though. And you'll also discover every possible way to cheaply cook potatoes. I think the only "dish" I still eat from those days is peas tossed in some hot mustard. Add in a half a bacon strip crumbled up, it's pretty a good snack.

I didn't eat cheese for like three years. And forget things like beef (except for a pot roast once in a while) or potato chips. A $5 deli chicken can really go a long way if you're creative. If you do it right, all you have left over is a pile of boiled bones...


Yep, well, you covered about everything (add lentils) so...

/down to the "pile of boiled bones"
//we grow most of our own veggies during the summer now... it's a nice change of pace to completely fill up on fresh tomatoes and eggplant. I did make beans and rice last week, but wish fresh homegrown tomato and peppers and onion and not eating it out of necessity but because I wanted to... it was actually awesome
2012-09-25 02:39:35 PM
1 votes:
I don't recall when the then/than thing became such a common error.

Than again, I was younger than, I think, or maybe its just...whatever
2012-09-25 02:32:37 PM
1 votes:

I alone am best: doloresonthedottedline: unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.

Except to buy in bulk, you have to have a way to get it home. I can't legally drive because I have narcolepsy. I walk to the store. I cannot carry a 50 lb bag of rice home walking, and most of the time I can't afford bus fare for trips like that (definitely not cab fare).

They invented these things back in the day. They are called wagons. Check craigslist.


Assuming you mean the rolly carts, I live in the historic district of Savannah. I'd rather live on ramen than try to roll a cart on the brick streets and sidewalks. I twist my ankle several times a week, last thing I need is a cart with all my groceries bouncing all over, breaking shiat and spilling into the road.

If you mean a horse and buggy, I don't have access to stables.

If you mean a red wagon, I.. Hmm. I'm not sure how that would work in Kroger. Or on the bricks. Or on all the things I'd have to lift it over to get it inside the gate at my apartment and get it either in and out of the basement storage or up to the third story where my kitchen is
2012-09-25 02:27:58 PM
1 votes:
When I was in school and could only work a few shifts a week I used to budget $90 a month for groceries and about $30 a month for take-out/restaurants. It farking sucked. The extra budget for take-out wasn't the smartest way to spend money, but it allowed me to go out with friends and for a few nights a month not feel like I was as strapped for cash as I was. But the habits of cheap eating will stick with you for a long time. I still only buy things that are on sale, eat breakfast and lunch from out-of-date items at work and get most of my groceries at Aldi.

I will never look down on anyone for using food stamps. I've been there, and I don't know their circumstances.
2012-09-25 02:14:55 PM
1 votes:
Am I the only one who thought he came off as a callous douche who only reluctantly acknowledged any difficulty? His biggest acknowledgement was:


"The goal of the challenge was to make elected leaders more understanding when making decisions that affect people living in difficult circumstances.

'I think it worked in that regard, I think it will make me a better policy maker," Mayor Stanton said.'"


Which to me reads like "yeah yeah, whatever, I couldn't eat junk food, boohoo... but yes, I'm totally a better mayor for it. Vote for Greg Stanton: The People's Mayor!"
2012-09-25 02:13:44 PM
1 votes:

mrexcess: I have a modest proposal. Why don't we simply find ways to temporarily or permanently disable the parts of the brain that tell poor people that they're hungry? It might cost more initially but the savings would pay off over the long run, and think of how much misery we'd be sparing them.


Wouldn't it be easier to disable the "I've got mine, fark you" part of politicians' brains? There's a lot fewer politicians than poor people, so the initial cost would be lower, and once they stopped being power-hungry sociopaths, they might actually do some good.
2012-09-25 02:11:58 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: CSB

I applied for 7 jobs over the course of the previous three months. I interviewed for 5 of them and was offered 4 of them. Get a farking job. You can eat much better with more money. Quit biatching about how little you are able to mooch off of others. If the food is free, you SHOULD'NT be getting a huge amount...maybe that way you'll be encouraged to get a damn job. I'm going to take a second job (part-time) soon solely in order to fully fund my Roth IRA and throw a little in a Money Market account. You can biatch and moan about your rice and beans or you can go out and do something about it. I have no pity for parasites.

CSB



Jesus Saves.


/Try the veal
2012-09-25 02:11:51 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: CSB

I applied for 7 jobs over the course of the previous three months. I interviewed for 5 of them and was offered 4 of them. Get a farking job. You can eat much better with more money. Quit biatching about how little you are able to mooch off of others. If the food is free, you SHOULD'NT be getting a huge amount...maybe that way you'll be encouraged to get a damn job. I'm going to take a second job (part-time) soon solely in order to fully fund my Roth IRA and throw a little in a Money Market account. You can biatch and moan about your rice and beans or you can go out and do something about it. I have no pity for parasites.

CSB


But I thought President Fart was keeping everyone from getting jobs? What happened to all of that?

You're way off message here.
2012-09-25 02:05:11 PM
1 votes:

doloresonthedottedline: unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.

Except to buy in bulk, you have to have a way to get it home. I can't legally drive because I have narcolepsy. I walk to the store. I cannot carry a 50 lb bag of rice home walking, and most of the time I can't afford bus fare for trips like that (definitely not cab fare).


You also have to be able to afford to buy in bulk each week. Sure this week chicken thighs are on sale and you should stock up. But you need to still buy everything else you need to make it through the week. Do you buy extra cheap chicken at the expense of skipping breakfast for a week? You have to plan really well if you want to purchase in bulk and navigating the sales at your local supermarket.
2012-09-25 02:04:11 PM
1 votes:

unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.


Well yeah, that works if you have luxury items like refrigerators around. I hear most of these so-called poor people have such extravagances these days.
2012-09-25 02:01:13 PM
1 votes:
Hope he submitted to daily drug tests at the supermarket checkout counter
2012-09-25 02:00:01 PM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.

Both are true. The agency I worked for had lots of people on SSA/SSI and they had $30-40 a week for food. You can stretch it a long way buying bulk items, sale items and stuff like day-old bread.

The problem is that you need toiletries, dish soap, paper products, cleaning supplies...those can really eat up your grocery budget.



That's why it's called government assistance.
2012-09-25 01:59:39 PM
1 votes:
CSB

I applied for 7 jobs over the course of the previous three months. I interviewed for 5 of them and was offered 4 of them. Get a farking job. You can eat much better with more money. Quit biatching about how little you are able to mooch off of others. If the food is free, you SHOULD'NT be getting a huge amount...maybe that way you'll be encouraged to get a damn job. I'm going to take a second job (part-time) soon solely in order to fully fund my Roth IRA and throw a little in a Money Market account. You can biatch and moan about your rice and beans or you can go out and do something about it. I have no pity for parasites.

CSB
2012-09-25 01:55:22 PM
1 votes:
Some nitwit on Fark once gave me a long spiel about he made minimum wage, and supported his family, and put himself through school, and didn't take out any school loans, and didn't accept any government aid of any kind, and what's more, he liked it, it made him feel proud and happy to do it.

One of his asinine points was that he could eat beans and rice two meals a day every day, with nothing else, and he was so super-smart that he knew where to buy them for like, 75 cents a truckload.

That pretty much ended any desire to debate economics with people here; someone will always step forward to claim the mantle of Bootstrappy the Great.
2012-09-25 01:55:07 PM
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unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.


Except to buy in bulk, you have to have a way to get it home. I can't legally drive because I have narcolepsy. I walk to the store. I cannot carry a 50 lb bag of rice home walking, and most of the time I can't afford bus fare for trips like that (definitely not cab fare).
2012-09-25 01:49:49 PM
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gerrymander: Was this another one of those bullshiat "challenges" that doesn't allow the use of salt and spices already present in the household, or the resale of items purchased with food program money, or any of the other things people on government food assistance programs actually do?


How does any of that help the recipient eat better?

False equivalency...strawman distraction...RIGHT WING BLOW HARD DETECTED!!! ALERT!! ALERT!!
2012-09-25 01:41:03 PM
1 votes:
In leaner times,

unlikely: $200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.


Great plan, but many people on food stamps may not be that good with math. You don't get a 'How To Spend Your Food stamps' brochure when you get your card. Maybe they should start doing this. But people don't want to be told what to eat. Then they end up buying too much of the wrong food. Then they get obese.

In leaner times, I found pasta and cheap cans of tomato sauce went a long way. Beans too. And they keep for a long time before use.

And I always made sure I had enough to buy spices. The more you spice food, the more you think you are eating.
wee [TotalFark]
2012-09-25 01:38:28 PM
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I used to live on $35/week for food. It sucks, but it can be done. You'll wind up hating beans and rice, though. And you'll also discover every possible way to cheaply cook potatoes. I think the only "dish" I still eat from those days is peas tossed in some hot mustard. Add in a half a bacon strip crumbled up, it's pretty a good snack.

I didn't eat cheese for like three years. And forget things like beef (except for a pot roast once in a while) or potato chips. A $5 deli chicken can really go a long way if you're creative. If you do it right, all you have left over is a pile of boiled bones...
2012-09-25 01:30:54 PM
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Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.


$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.
2012-09-25 01:06:32 PM
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I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.
 
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