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2012-09-25 11:08:12 AM
Hero tag? According to FWD:FW:FW: my father in law, It's endless free food if you are poor.
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2012-09-25 11:34:39 AM
Now if we could only convince a few Congress Critters to live off of Social Security and Medicaid alone for a year we might actually get somewhere.
 
2012-09-25 11:35:51 AM
Next month the mayor is going to smoke crack and give handies for booze in order to understand how closing of treatment centers hurts addicts.

Later, he's going to burn dinner and have Chuck Lidell beat the shiat out of him so he understand the impact of under funding women's shelters.

And finally, he's going to farking shoot himself so he can understand how the medical insurance system works.

farking retarded. You don't have to 'live in someone's shoes' to figure shiat out.
 
2012-09-25 11:40:15 AM
The goal of the challenge was to make elected leaders more understanding when making decisions that affect people living in difficult circumstances.

"I think it worked in that regard, I think it will make me a better policy maker," Mayor Stanton said.



That's my mayor. Good on you mayor. Finally, I get to be proud of an Arizona politician that represents me.
 
2012-09-25 12:08:18 PM
Was this another one of those bullshiat "challenges" that doesn't allow the use of salt and spices already present in the household, or the resale of items purchased with food program money, or any of the other things people on government food assistance programs actually do?
 
2012-09-25 12:12:52 PM

netizencain: Next month the mayor is going to smoke crack and give handies for booze in order to understand how closing of treatment centers hurts addicts.

Later, he's going to burn dinner and have Chuck Lidell beat the shiat out of him so he understand the impact of under funding women's shelters.

And finally, he's going to farking shoot himself so he can understand how the medical insurance system works.

farking retarded. You don't have to 'live in someone's shoes' to figure shiat out.


I read that as give away handles of booze and wondered where the line formed.

Also -
Dear Mayor -
If you're on foodstamps you don't deserve to go out for coffee. You drink your foodbank Folgers at home like everybody else.

/dnrtfa
 
2012-09-25 12:59:47 PM
So he lost four pounds in a week on food stamps. Figure the average poor person starts out weighing about 200 pounds. If we give them food stamps for less than a year, the problem of poor people will go away.
 
2012-09-25 01:06:32 PM
I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.
 
2012-09-25 01:16:30 PM
Yeah, nice clothes mayor. I bet he drove to to Basha's in his SUV.

He should try taking a bus, or walking to the store.

What? No Basha's near your house?

Now go to the stores that are closest to you, and take what you get.

Aww, they don;t have 'organic' or healthier versions of the food you like. Tough shiat.

What? who will watch the kids? Take them with you.

What? It's a bad neighborhood?

What? you're disabled and can't get to a store?

What? What? What?
 
2012-09-25 01:18:26 PM

Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.



Depends how much you eat.  Thats about $7/day.  I only eat once per day (not out of necessity, just how my body works).  So I could do it.  I wouldn't be happy, but I could.
 
Now if you're a normal person who eats twice or three times a day, not so much.
 
2012-09-25 01:20:00 PM
One week, huh?  Try doing it for a year.
 
2012-09-25 01:28:15 PM

downstairs: just how my body works


Apparently impacting your brain. Excellent argument for improving mental health as part of our healthcare reform.
 
2012-09-25 01:30:54 PM

Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.


$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.
 
2012-09-25 01:31:33 PM

BarkingUnicorn: So he lost four pounds in a week on food stamps. Figure the average poor person starts out weighing about 200 pounds. If we give them food stamps for less than a year, the problem of poor people will go away.


there is cheap unhealthy food with lots of calories in it. it just isn't particularly great tasting, and definitely not healthy.
 
2012-09-25 01:34:19 PM

Godscrack: Yeah, nice clothes mayor. I bet he drove to to Basha's in his SUV.

He should try taking a bus, or walking to the store.

What? No Basha's near your house?

Now go to the stores that are closest to you, and take what you get.

Aww, they don;t have 'organic' or healthier versions of the food you like. Tough shiat.

What? who will watch the kids? Take them with you.

What? It's a bad neighborhood?

What? you're disabled and can't get to a store?

What? What? What?


I agree with your points. All of them. But so many politicians are so out of touch with 'just getting by' means that it is nice to see one try. Even if it is just enough to 'get it'.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2012-09-25 01:38:28 PM
I used to live on $35/week for food. It sucks, but it can be done. You'll wind up hating beans and rice, though. And you'll also discover every possible way to cheaply cook potatoes. I think the only "dish" I still eat from those days is peas tossed in some hot mustard. Add in a half a bacon strip crumbled up, it's pretty a good snack.

I didn't eat cheese for like three years. And forget things like beef (except for a pot roast once in a while) or potato chips. A $5 deli chicken can really go a long way if you're creative. If you do it right, all you have left over is a pile of boiled bones...
 
2012-09-25 01:41:03 PM
In leaner times,

unlikely: $200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.


Great plan, but many people on food stamps may not be that good with math. You don't get a 'How To Spend Your Food stamps' brochure when you get your card. Maybe they should start doing this. But people don't want to be told what to eat. Then they end up buying too much of the wrong food. Then they get obese.

In leaner times, I found pasta and cheap cans of tomato sauce went a long way. Beans too. And they keep for a long time before use.

And I always made sure I had enough to buy spices. The more you spice food, the more you think you are eating.
 
2012-09-25 01:43:02 PM

unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.


Both are true. The agency I worked for had lots of people on SSA/SSI and they had $30-40 a week for food. You can stretch it a long way buying bulk items, sale items and stuff like day-old bread.

The problem is that you need toiletries, dish soap, paper products, cleaning supplies...those can really eat up your grocery budget.
 
2012-09-25 01:44:19 PM

Nadie_AZ: I agree with your points. All of them. But so many politicians are so out of touch with 'just getting by' means that it is nice to see one try. Even if it is just enough to 'get it'.


I didn't even scratch the surface. I've been there. I know/work with people who still are there. It pisses me off when I see these big shots trying to 'feel your pain'.

They wont even get close.
 
2012-09-25 01:46:37 PM

wee: I used to live on $35/week for food. It sucks, but it can be done. You'll wind up hating beans and rice, though. And you'll also discover every possible way to cheaply cook potatoes. I think the only "dish" I still eat from those days is peas tossed in some hot mustard. Add in a half a bacon strip crumbled up, it's pretty a good snack.

I didn't eat cheese for like three years. And forget things like beef (except for a pot roast once in a while) or potato chips. A $5 deli chicken can really go a long way if you're creative. If you do it right, all you have left over is a pile of boiled bones...


My dad use to make a dish he called a poor man's dinner. Canned peas cooked in condensed milk served on a plain toast. Very good actually.
 
2012-09-25 01:47:00 PM

gerrymander: Was this another one of those bullshiat "challenges" that doesn't allow the use of salt and spices already present in the household


wat

You know, in order to have stuff already present in the household, it had to be purchased at some point. Or do you have some spice replicator in your cupboard?
 
2012-09-25 01:49:26 PM
How long before he's labeled a Commie loving Socialist, Liberal, Nazi and Marxist?
 
2012-09-25 01:49:49 PM

gerrymander: Was this another one of those bullshiat "challenges" that doesn't allow the use of salt and spices already present in the household, or the resale of items purchased with food program money, or any of the other things people on government food assistance programs actually do?


How does any of that help the recipient eat better?

False equivalency...strawman distraction...RIGHT WING BLOW HARD DETECTED!!! ALERT!! ALERT!!
 
2012-09-25 01:49:55 PM

wee: I used to live on $35/week for food. It sucks, but it can be done. You'll wind up hating beans and rice, though. And you'll also discover every possible way to cheaply cook potatoes. I think the only "dish" I still eat from those days is peas tossed in some hot mustard. Add in a half a bacon strip crumbled up, it's pretty a good snack.

I didn't eat cheese for like three years. And forget things like beef (except for a pot roast once in a while) or potato chips. A $5 deli chicken can really go a long way if you're creative. If you do it right, all you have left over is a pile of boiled bones...


Discarded pizza boxes are an inexpensive source of cheese
 
2012-09-25 01:51:07 PM
From what I've seen, most of the moochers and parasites could stand to lose a few pounds anyway.
 
2012-09-25 01:51:39 PM

Godscrack: Nadie_AZ: I agree with your points. All of them. But so many politicians are so out of touch with 'just getting by' means that it is nice to see one try. Even if it is just enough to 'get it'.

I didn't even scratch the surface. I've been there. I know/work with people who still are there. It pisses me off when I see these big shots trying to 'feel your pain'.

They wont even get close.


I keep thinking of people in legislatures who want to do away with many of these programs. How do you get those people to even remotely understand?
 
2012-09-25 01:51:59 PM
ITT: people desperate to prove how awesome they are at buying groceries, cooking, and eating, unintentionally argue against helping poor people.

It doesn't matter if you're a supergenius at buying food, or love eating rice or beans, or are a human snake that eats one meal a day, can you at least admit living on food stamps SUCKS and we should strive to help poor people to actually eat?

We have Americans, and American children, that go to bed hungry. All you're doing with your math simulations is making Republican's "fark the poor" arguments for them.
 
2012-09-25 01:52:01 PM

Madbassist1: gerrymander: Was this another one of those bullshiat "challenges" that doesn't allow the use of salt and spices already present in the household, or the resale of items purchased with food program money, or any of the other things people on government food assistance programs actually do?

How does any of that help the recipient eat better?

False equivalency...strawman distraction...RIGHT WING BLOW HARD DETECTED!!! ALERT!! ALERT!!


No, it just proves those leeches on food stamps really dine on caviar and lobster six nights a week.

Hey, gerrydork, just so you know: Salt and "spices" don't come with the household. YOU STILL HAVE TO BUY THEM.
 
2012-09-25 01:55:07 PM

unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.


Except to buy in bulk, you have to have a way to get it home. I can't legally drive because I have narcolepsy. I walk to the store. I cannot carry a 50 lb bag of rice home walking, and most of the time I can't afford bus fare for trips like that (definitely not cab fare).
 
2012-09-25 01:55:19 PM

downstairs: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.
Depends how much you eat.  Thats about $7/day.  I only eat once per day (not out of necessity, just how my body works).  So I could do it.  I wouldn't be happy, but I could.  
Now if you're a normal person who eats twice or three times a day, not so much.


I was on food stamps and ate like a farking king. Bought things I wouldn't even normally buy, like parmesan cheese. What the hell are those people who "can't get by" buying?

I'm sure men eat more than I do, but come on. I was feeding my son too.

/Food stamps are the greatest thing EVAR. There is nothing like being so broke you can't even afford to pay your bills, but you can still go get some food. The good this does for your head is above and beyond just keeping a person in groceries.
 
2012-09-25 01:55:22 PM
Some nitwit on Fark once gave me a long spiel about he made minimum wage, and supported his family, and put himself through school, and didn't take out any school loans, and didn't accept any government aid of any kind, and what's more, he liked it, it made him feel proud and happy to do it.

One of his asinine points was that he could eat beans and rice two meals a day every day, with nothing else, and he was so super-smart that he knew where to buy them for like, 75 cents a truckload.

That pretty much ended any desire to debate economics with people here; someone will always step forward to claim the mantle of Bootstrappy the Great.
 
2012-09-25 01:55:34 PM

gerrymander: Was this another one of those bullshiat "challenges" that doesn't allow the use of salt and spices already present in the household, or the resale of items purchased with food program money, or any of the other things people on government food assistance programs actually do?


Exactly, because spices and staples are free, plus the black market for goods readily available in grocery stores has a 3000% markup.

/you're a farking idiot
 
2012-09-25 01:56:19 PM
Number 2: You have the right to food money
Providing of course you
Don't mind a little
Humiliation, investigation
And if you cross your fingers
Rehabilitation!
 
2012-09-25 01:57:58 PM

Pud: Now if we could only convince a few Congress Critters to live off of Social Security and Medicaid alone for a year we might actually get somewhere.


Maybe make it so that once you join congress you can only live on social security and other safety net payments for the rest of your life - all other income/non-fixed assets are sent to general taxation and you are audited on a regular basis to ensure you aren't living above your means due to gifts or payments in kind from corporations or whatever. Should weed out the ones in it for the money/bribes anyway.
 
2012-09-25 01:58:48 PM

Kibbler: Some nitwit on Fark once gave me a long spiel about he made minimum wage, and supported his family, and put himself through school, and didn't take out any school loans, and didn't accept any government aid of any kind, and what's more, he liked it, it made him feel proud and happy to do it.

One of his asinine points was that he could eat beans and rice two meals a day every day, with nothing else, and he was so super-smart that he knew where to buy them for like, 75 cents a truckload.

That pretty much ended any desire to debate economics with people here; someone will always step forward to claim the mantle of Bootstrappy the Great.


Save that. We're going to need it later.
 
2012-09-25 01:59:39 PM
CSB

I applied for 7 jobs over the course of the previous three months. I interviewed for 5 of them and was offered 4 of them. Get a farking job. You can eat much better with more money. Quit biatching about how little you are able to mooch off of others. If the food is free, you SHOULD'NT be getting a huge amount...maybe that way you'll be encouraged to get a damn job. I'm going to take a second job (part-time) soon solely in order to fully fund my Roth IRA and throw a little in a Money Market account. You can biatch and moan about your rice and beans or you can go out and do something about it. I have no pity for parasites.

CSB
 
2012-09-25 01:59:44 PM

Nadie_AZ: Godscrack:

I agree with your points. All of them. But so many politicians are so out of touch with 'just getting by' means that it is nice to see one try. Even if it is just enough to 'get it'.


With all the BS misinformation about folks on food stamps (I had a friend tell me he didn't need to cite "public knowledge" when I called him on his argument that SNAP recipients stay on forever), it's definitely refreshing to see one person try to go against the grain, even if it is still a misrepresentation, it brings the needle closer to reality.

I'll wait to see if he actually tries to make any changes before calling it a cheap publicity stunt.

Godscrack:

You don't get a 'How To Spend Your Food stamps' brochure when you get your card. Maybe they should start doing this.

THIS. Along with better funding, more education (for both recipients and the general public), access to healthy food, etc....
 
2012-09-25 01:59:46 PM
Stanton is a good man. I am next door in Scottsdale and I am very worried about the council going teabagger.

BTW, I am in North Scottsdale and am next to a Bashas. Cheap shopping is good for all of us.

/I am the 6%
 
2012-09-25 02:00:01 PM

Gyrfalcon: unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.

Both are true. The agency I worked for had lots of people on SSA/SSI and they had $30-40 a week for food. You can stretch it a long way buying bulk items, sale items and stuff like day-old bread.

The problem is that you need toiletries, dish soap, paper products, cleaning supplies...those can really eat up your grocery budget.



That's why it's called government assistance.
 
2012-09-25 02:01:13 PM
Hope he submitted to daily drug tests at the supermarket checkout counter
 
2012-09-25 02:01:20 PM

Gyrfalcon: Madbassist1: gerrymander: Was this another one of those bullshiat "challenges" that doesn't allow the use of salt and spices already present in the household, or the resale of items purchased with food program money, or any of the other things people on government food assistance programs actually do?

How does any of that help the recipient eat better?

False equivalency...strawman distraction...RIGHT WING BLOW HARD DETECTED!!! ALERT!! ALERT!!

No, it just proves those leeches on food stamps really dine on caviar and lobster six nights a week.

Hey, gerrydork, just so you know: Salt and "spices" don't come with the household. YOU STILL HAVE TO BUY THEM.


You need to talk to your realtor, buddy. I just got a nice 3 bedroom, 3 1/2 bath, garlic salt and Season All town house for under $200k. And its only 10 minutes from Metro.
 
2012-09-25 02:02:05 PM

Nadie_AZ: They wont even get close.

I keep thinking of people in legislatures who want to do away with many of these programs. How do you get those people to even remotely understand?


They're favorite tactic is to use the image of young, able bodied minorities who just want a free ride. So they use this image to paint all FS recipients with the same brush. All of the focus is on minorities as the abusers.

Most of it is political. And with the election of America's first black (mixed, whatever) president, the wealthy right is furious and they want blood.

So everyone ends up paying for the discrimination. Like elderly white people, disabled people and especially veterans.
 
2012-09-25 02:02:43 PM

downstairs: One week, huh?  Try doing it for a year.


Try getting a job!
.
.
.
j/k - I troll, I troll.
 
2012-09-25 02:02:58 PM
*than*, subby,

Jesus farking Christ in a chicken basket.
 
2012-09-25 02:03:15 PM

AbbeySomeone: Also -
Dear Mayor -
If you're on foodstamps you don't deserve to go out for coffee. You drink your foodbank Folgers at home like everybody else.


The way I read it, that's exactly what he did. He couldn't afford to eat, so the threw a pot on and called it a meal.

That's what I usually do for breakfast even now that I can afford to eat.
 
2012-09-25 02:04:11 PM

unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.


Well yeah, that works if you have luxury items like refrigerators around. I hear most of these so-called poor people have such extravagances these days.
 
2012-09-25 02:04:12 PM

Nadie_AZ: Godscrack: Nadie_AZ: I agree with your points. All of them. But so many politicians are so out of touch with 'just getting by' means that it is nice to see one try. Even if it is just enough to 'get it'.

I didn't even scratch the surface. I've been there. I know/work with people who still are there. It pisses me off when I see these big shots trying to 'feel your pain'.

They wont even get close.

I keep thinking of people in legislatures who want to do away with many of these programs. How do you get those people to even remotely understand?


You're thinking of them, can you name one?
 
2012-09-25 02:04:40 PM
Food stamps will provide the absolute baseline level of nutrition if you know what to buy, where to shop, how to cook and have a lot of time to prepare meals. You'll get fat from eating all the starchy food and should include a multivitamin in the budget because you sure as hell aren't getting a well balanced diet.
 
2012-09-25 02:05:11 PM

doloresonthedottedline: unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.

Except to buy in bulk, you have to have a way to get it home. I can't legally drive because I have narcolepsy. I walk to the store. I cannot carry a 50 lb bag of rice home walking, and most of the time I can't afford bus fare for trips like that (definitely not cab fare).


You also have to be able to afford to buy in bulk each week. Sure this week chicken thighs are on sale and you should stock up. But you need to still buy everything else you need to make it through the week. Do you buy extra cheap chicken at the expense of skipping breakfast for a week? You have to plan really well if you want to purchase in bulk and navigating the sales at your local supermarket.
 
2012-09-25 02:05:40 PM

doloresonthedottedline: unlikely: Baby Face Fister: I was on food stamps and was getting $200 a month and unless you do a lot of shopping at the Dollar Store you wont make it for a month.

$200 a month is extremely possible. It's just not luxury.

A 50 pound bag of rice costs $44 at the asian food market here. A 12 ounce bag of frozen vegetables is $1 at the grocery store. 60 bags of veggies and a bag of rice per month and you've cracked $110 plus tax. And I seriously doubt you can eat 50 lbs of rice in a month.

Add in a couple cartons of milk, a pound of butter, and you're at $125. Get cereal to go with the milk @$4 a box, figure six boxes for a month, you're at $150. That should cover basic sustenance for a month. Add in $3/lb ground beef or a few chicken breasts for protein and you're still well below your $200 mark.

Except to buy in bulk, you have to have a way to get it home. I can't legally drive because I have narcolepsy. I walk to the store. I cannot carry a 50 lb bag of rice home walking, and most of the time I can't afford bus fare for trips like that (definitely not cab fare).


They invented these things back in the day. They are called wagons. Check craigslist.
 
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