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(My Fox DC)   "It was Glee meets the Russian Revolution, I'm not kidding you. They had giant hammers and sickles and they were waving them around"   (myfoxdc.com) divider line 81
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2012-09-25 01:55:15 PM  

Snort: Really? You guys are engaging a guy with the nick "Bomb Head Mohammed?" What part of troll do you not see?


Meh. You're right. And I'm bored.
 
2012-09-25 01:55:54 PM  

Shostie: Snort: Really? You guys are engaging a guy with the nick "Bomb Head Mohammed?" What part of troll do you not see?

Meh. You're right. And I'm bored.


Beats the hell out of actually working.
 
2012-09-25 02:17:23 PM  
Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]
 
2012-09-25 02:27:18 PM  

Bomb Head Mohammed: Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]


Please limit the discussion to the Communist Revolution. Feel free to cite the battles between the White army factions and the Reds.

Crap, now I am talking to the troll.
 
2012-09-25 02:35:04 PM  

Bomb Head Mohammed: Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]


You didn't even link them. I don't want to copy & paste. WTF man.
 
2012-09-25 02:37:17 PM  
Should we bring up that the 1812 overture (the piece played at every 4th of July spectacle) commemorates the Russian victory over Napoleon?
 
2012-09-25 02:45:29 PM  
Snort: Bomb Head Mohammed: Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]

Please limit the discussion to the Communist Revolution. Feel free to cite the battles between the White army factions and the Reds.



Crap, now I am talking to the troll.

Sorry Snort - maybe we're talking at cross purposes. Of course many did not die in the revolution itself. Duh. But look at the original message:

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

Clearly, FarkedOver he's not talking about the Russian Revolution per se. He's expanded his discussion into revisionist denial of deaths under the soviet regime in general. Or, if he thinks he hasn't, then he should learn to write clearly.
 
2012-09-25 02:54:16 PM  

Bomb Head Mohammed: Snort: Bomb Head Mohammed: Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]

Please limit the discussion to the Communist Revolution. Feel free to cite the battles between the White army factions and the Reds.



Crap, now I am talking to the troll.

Sorry Snort - maybe we're talking at cross purposes. Of course many did not die in the revolution itself. Duh. But look at the original message:

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

Clearly, FarkedOver he's not talking about the Russian Revolution per se. He's expanded his discussion into revisionist denial of deaths under the soviet regime in general. Or, if he thinks he hasn't, then he should learn to write clearly.


Sorry your relatives were killed (justifiably). Shouldn't have been counter-revolutionary. Sorry comrade.
 
2012-09-25 03:10:21 PM  

maxximillian: Should we bring up that the 1812 overture (the piece played at every 4th of July spectacle) commemorates the Russian victory over Napoleon?


Was that the communist victory over republicanism ?

/CANNONS FARK YEH!
 
2012-09-25 03:14:14 PM  
heh, I live across the street from a communist party branch office. Not relevant, but whatever
 
2012-09-25 03:28:21 PM  

somedude210: I've been meaning to start reading a new book: Spies and Commissars? It looked like a really good history of the actual revolution. I admit, I know the causes and the eventual outcome, but the chaos that ensued from the fall of the czar to the rise of Lenin/Stalin must be fascinating

/Also, Leon Trotsky's autobiography is a boring, slow, boring boring book
//Trotsky, however, seems like an interesting guy
///The Trotsky, is a farking awesome movie



This deals more with WWII but I found it very interesting. The Greatest Battle: Stalin, Hitler, and the Desperate Struggle for Moscow That Changed the Course of World War II
 
2012-09-25 03:34:08 PM  
maxximillian: Should we bring up that the 1812 overture (the piece played at every 4th of July spectacle) commemorates the Russian victory over Napoleon?

I'm sure if someone was marching around with pictures of the Czar during 4th of July celebrations, some folks might have a problem with it.

/nice idea to celebrate Russian music, but poor execution lady Band Directors part.
 
2012-09-25 03:36:21 PM  

FarkedOver: Bomb Head Mohammed: Snort: Bomb Head Mohammed: Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]

Please limit the discussion to the Communist Revolution. Feel free to cite the battles between the White army factions and the Reds.



Crap, now I am talking to the troll.

Sorry Snort - maybe we're talking at cross purposes. Of course many did not die in the revolution itself. Duh. But look at the original message:

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

Clearly, FarkedOver he's not talking about the Russian Revolution per se. He's expanded his discussion into revisionist denial of deaths under the soviet regime in general. Or, if he thinks he hasn't, then he should learn to write clearly.

Sorry your relatives were killed (justifiably). Shouldn't have been counter-revolutionary. Sorry comrade.


Watch and learn, Jim Green Font, watch and learn
 
2012-09-25 03:49:45 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Shostie: Okay. Did some digging. Their show for 2012 is "The Music of Shostakovich."

*sigh*

Any time you see Todd Starnes' byline you can be certain you're not getting the whole story.


Oh, look.

Gerson Moreno-Riano, dean of Regent University's College of Arts & Sciences, told Fox News the performance is shocking.

"The Russian revolution was one of the most violent episodes of the 20th Century," he said. "Lenin put into place a doctrine of mass terror to crush the opposition and thousands and thousands of people were murdered.

The history professor said there's very little to celebrate in that movement.


Yes, I'm sure we're getting unbiased news here.
 
2012-09-25 03:55:52 PM  

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".


Counting the political prisoners used as human shields for their tanks when they drove the Germans back in world war II as casualties of war I take it?
 
2012-09-25 04:00:30 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
Hlam barahlo
 
2012-09-25 04:04:07 PM  
What? No video of the performance?
 
2012-09-25 04:06:01 PM  

albatros183: maxximillian: Should we bring up that the 1812 overture (the piece played at every 4th of July spectacle) commemorates the Russian victory over Napoleon?

Was that the communist victory over republicanism ?

/CANNONS FARK YEH!


I'm down with that:

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-25 04:06:50 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."



Got a link to those "relevant facts" he's allegedly omitting, or is this just another ad-hominem Tuesday?
 
2012-09-25 04:18:22 PM  

spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."


Got a link to those "relevant facts" he's allegedly omitting, or is this just another ad-hominem Tuesday?


Link
 
2012-09-25 05:11:26 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."


Got a link to those "relevant facts" he's allegedly omitting, or is this just another ad-hominem Tuesday?

Link



Link to...uh, Google's cache of the marching band's information-free website, which has since been put behind a password? What damning "relevant facts" am I supposed to take away from that that were omitted from TFA?
 
2012-09-25 05:48:08 PM  

spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."


Got a link to those "relevant facts" he's allegedly omitting, or is this just another ad-hominem Tuesday?

Link


Link to...uh, Google's cache of the marching band's information-free website, which has since been put behind a password? What damning "relevant facts" am I supposed to take away from that that were omitted from TFA?


That the show wasn't a tribute to communism.

The idea that any mention or acknowledgement of the revolution is an endorsement is, of course, IDIOTIC.
But Starnes knows his audience.
 
2012-09-25 06:07:05 PM  
Obviously the problem isn't the system but the people running it
*cough*

The people of Russia have always been shat on by their government whether it be through Gudunov permanently binding Russian serfs to their land (saying that legal change wasn't slavery is like saying the South was really fighting over states rights during the American Civil War) to the Czars/Tsars to the useful idiots for the Russian Revolution in 1917 and throughout the years of authoritarian rule.

Everywhere else it has been tried it has failed with catastrophic loss of human life. The intentions were great like the French revolution but that only lead to a reign of terror that was ended by Napoleon. Pride cometh before the fall
 
2012-09-25 07:14:56 PM  

lordaction: This is a direct result of the marxism being shoveled into kids by the teacher unions. How pathetic does your ideology have to be when the only way it can gain traction is by brainwashing children?


Dunno. Try asking the Christians.

/oops.
 
2012-09-25 07:38:03 PM  
WOW...can't believe there are actually people on here defending the Russian Revolution.
ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2012-09-25 10:09:58 PM  
Celebration of communism? Or, as I like to call it, Democratic Party Propaganda
 
2012-09-25 11:53:39 PM  
Ivan Bunin, Untimely Thoughts.
 
2012-09-26 12:14:27 AM  

Shostie: Bomb Head Mohammed: Because, at least from the first to paragraphs that I skimmed, this event commemorates the Soviet/Russian revolution of 1917.

Not really, no.

They were playing the music of Soviet composer Dmitri Shostakovich. Someone conflated that to a Russian Revolution show.

Unless they were playing bits from his 2nd (unlikely) or 12th symphonies, the show very likely had little to do with October.


Well...I'd say the primary issue was prancing around the damn field with the hammer and sickle. Don't you think that's a bit more than an homage to DS?
 
2012-09-26 12:35:36 AM  
I blame Glee, FARK YOU GLEE!!
 
2012-09-26 08:11:34 PM  
DamnYankees
That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

BE AFRAID OF EVERYTHING

DON'T THINK, JUST BE AFRAID
 
2012-09-27 01:54:25 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."


Got a link to those "relevant facts" he's allegedly omitting, or is this just another ad-hominem Tuesday?

Link


Link to...uh, Google's cache of the marching band's information-free website, which has since been put behind a password? What damning "relevant facts" am I supposed to take away from that that were omitted from TFA?

That the show wasn't a tribute to communism.

The idea that any mention or acknowledgement of the revolution is an endorsement is, of course, IDIOTIC.
But Starnes knows his audience."



Marching with a hammer and sickle while playing period music is not "mention" or "acknowledgement" - unless it was satire (which I think we can all agree it wasn't), it's an endorsement.
 
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