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2012-09-25 10:33:41 AM
"If anything is being celebrated it's the music," she said. "It is what it is. I understand people look at something and choose how to interpret that and I'm just very sorry that it wasn't looked at as just a history lesson."

Any possible sympathy I could've possibly had for this woman went out the window with the use of this phrase.
 
2012-09-25 10:38:07 AM
Goddamn it, news! Why won't you tell me what they played???
 
2012-09-25 10:43:07 AM
Okay. Did some digging. Their show for 2012 is "The Music of Shostakovich."

*sigh*
 
2012-09-25 10:44:26 AM
I've been meaning to start reading a new book: Spies and Commissars? It looked like a really good history of the actual revolution. I admit, I know the causes and the eventual outcome, but the chaos that ensued from the fall of the czar to the rise of Lenin/Stalin must be fascinating

/Also, Leon Trotsky's autobiography is a boring, slow, boring boring book
//Trotsky, however, seems like an interesting guy
///The Trotsky, is a farking awesome movie
 
2012-09-25 10:54:07 AM

Shostie: Okay. Did some digging. Their show for 2012 is "The Music of Shostakovich."

*sigh*


Any time you see Todd Starnes' byline you can be certain you're not getting the whole story.
 
2012-09-25 10:55:59 AM
I can think of no better way to mock the Soviets and communism than to make a 'Glee' dance number out of their ideals.
 
2012-09-25 11:00:19 AM

Weaver95: I can think of no better way to mock the Soviets and communism than to make a 'Glee' dance number out of their ideals.


But what did poor Shostakovich ever do to get dragged into it?

/Where the the hell do you find marching band arrangements for Shostakovich? That must have been a complete train wreck regardless of the Bolshevik angle.
 
2012-09-25 11:04:07 AM

Nabb1: /Where the the hell do you find marching band arrangements for Shostakovich?


There's stuff out there, I'm sure. The Phantom Regiment did a Shostakovich show years and years ago. This guy Donald Hunsberger arranged a bunch of Shostakovich pieces for wind ensemble which (in my opinion) is worthless since he seems to have forgotten that wind instruments have different technical capabilities than strings.
 
2012-09-25 11:15:55 AM
i1156.photobucket.com 
 
2012-09-25 11:16:35 AM
That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?
 
2012-09-25 11:20:44 AM

DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?


As I noted above, their show is "The Music of Shostakovich."

And yeah, there's a strong connection between Shostakovich and the Russian Revolution, Soviets, et al, but to say that the show was JUST about the Revolution simplifies things quite a bit.

Shostakovich had a... let's say complicated relationship with the Communist Party in Russia.
 
2012-09-25 11:28:48 AM

Shostie: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

As I noted above, their show is "The Music of Shostakovich."

And yeah, there's a strong connection between Shostakovich and the Russian Revolution, Soviets, et al, but to say that the show was JUST about the Revolution simplifies things quite a bit.

Shostakovich had a... let's say complicated relationship with the Communist Party in Russia.


Not to mention he was just a kid in 1917.
 
2012-09-25 12:02:58 PM

DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?


It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."
 
2012-09-25 12:19:05 PM
Is this their band director?

images.wikia.com
 
2012-09-25 12:22:40 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."


and the comments at the bottom of the article are exactly what I would expect...

But, this is what progressivism (regressivism) does to a education system. Promoting historical ignorance in it's full glory.
What's next? RE-DISTRIBUTION! Oh yea, they started talking about that last week
Obama...making communism fashionable.


Todd's certainly reaching his target audience.
 
2012-09-25 12:26:08 PM
 
2012-09-25 12:26:34 PM

Weaver95: I can think of no better way to mock the Soviets and communism than to make a 'Glee' dance number out of their ideals.


"I may have been deported in 1929 but (sings) I'm just an old-fashioned girl, with an old-fashioned mind. (a certain amount of confusion is spreading among the audience and particulary the general on the podium) Comrades, I don't want to destroy in order to build, I don't want a state founded on hate and division (sings) I want an old-fashioned house with an old-fashioned fence, and an old-fashioned millionaire."
 
2012-09-25 12:26:46 PM
People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".
 
2012-09-25 12:29:28 PM

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".


Don't blame the deaths on communism. Blame them on "Stalinism."
 
2012-09-25 12:30:41 PM
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-09-25 12:33:14 PM
"I am sure the millions who died under Communism would not see the joy of celebrating the Russian revolution by a school 10 miles from Gettysburg."
strangejourneys.files.wordpress.com
"Not even their Kentucky long rifles can withstand our tanks, comrade!"
 
2012-09-25 12:36:18 PM

Shostie: FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

Don't blame the deaths on communism. Blame them on "Stalinism."


It's not even just that. They count deaths by famine as a direct result of "communism". Anyone ever who died under "communism" was executed is what I think some people believe (or sent to a gulag).
 
2012-09-25 12:36:38 PM

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".


Oh certainly, but the Soviets aesthetic retroactively a great group of guys just because the black book et al. use suspicious statistics.
 
2012-09-25 12:37:11 PM
Let the Russkies march on Gettysburg.
We'll climb that hill and whip some ass all over again.
Russians, Johnny Rebs...it's all the same.

/Wolverines!
 
2012-09-25 12:38:38 PM
How the hell does aren't = aesthetic? Screw you autocorrect!
 
2012-09-25 12:39:24 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

Oh certainly, but the Soviets aesthetic retroactively a great group of guys just because the black book et al. use suspicious statistics.


I think things would have been different had Lenin lived longer. After he was shot he deteriorated rapidly and was never the same. State and Revolution is a fabulous book and looking at what Stalin did after he took power, he did everything Lenin warned against in State and Rev
 
2012-09-25 12:40:13 PM
Ten Days That Rocked the World?
 
2012-09-25 12:40:58 PM

FarkedOver: It's not even just that. They count deaths by famine as a direct result of "communism". Anyone ever who died under "communism" was executed is what I think some people believe (or sent to a gulag).


It's what you think some people believe? Go stand in the corner and think about what you wrote.
 
2012-09-25 12:41:21 PM

FarkedOver: Holocaust Agnostic: FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

Oh certainly, but the Soviets aesthetic retroactively a great group of guys just because the black book et al. use suspicious statistics.

I think things would have been different had Lenin lived longer. After he was shot he deteriorated rapidly and was never the same. State and Revolution is a fabulous book and looking at what Stalin did after he took power, he did everything Lenin warned against in State and Rev


Lenin was good person. One day he was standing outside his dacha shaving himself with a bowl of water and an open razor. A little boy came to watch him and asked him what he was doing. "I'm, shaving little boy", Lenin said.
 
2012-09-25 12:42:38 PM

1. Put snakes on plane: It's what you think some people believe? Go stand in the corner and think about what you wrote.


Well its what most Americans raised during the cold war believe ;)

/Fark your corner bourgeois pig!
 
2012-09-25 12:44:43 PM
"There is no reason for Americans to celebrate the Russian revolution," said one irate parent who alerted Fox News. "I am sure the millions who died under Communism would not see the joy of celebrating the Russian revolution by a school 10 miles from Gettysburg."

What does Gettysburg have to do with the Russian Revolution or Communism?
 
2012-09-25 12:45:59 PM
This is a direct result of the marxism being shoveled into kids by the teacher unions. How pathetic does your ideology have to be when the only way it can gain traction is by brainwashing children?
 
2012-09-25 12:46:09 PM

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".


Problem was that the original view of Communism was warped once it was put into practice. Things got hell of a lot worse when Stalin came to be the Boss.

/Socialism sounds good on paper
//But mankind needs to go a long way to really make it work without turning it into a monstrous machine
 
2012-09-25 12:49:28 PM

FarkedOver: Holocaust Agnostic: FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

Oh certainly, but the Soviets aesthetic retroactively a great group of guys just because the black book et al. use suspicious statistics.

I think things would have been different had Lenin lived longer. After he was shot he deteriorated rapidly and was never the same. State and Revolution is a fabulous book and looking at what Stalin did after he took power, he did everything Lenin warned against in State and Rev


Conclusive evidence that, while potentially useful, authoritarian power structures that ultimately rely on one dude having holistic shiat straight are dangerously unstable and have catastrophic failure states.
 
2012-09-25 12:50:34 PM

RussianPooper: "There is no reason for Americans to celebrate the Russian revolution," said one irate parent who alerted Fox News. "I am sure the millions who died under Communism would not see the joy of celebrating the Russian revolution by a school 10 miles from Gettysburg."

What does Gettysburg have to do with the Russian Revolution or Communism?


Because when the South Rises again, they don't want to rise as a socialist front.
 
2012-09-25 12:51:42 PM
Russian Revolution ended in November of 1917
 
2012-09-25 01:08:04 PM
You know, you air-headed right-wingers need to calm down and stop panicking that there are enemies and subversives everywhere. Seriously. You're farking batshiat, pants-on-head retarded at this point.
 
2012-09-25 01:10:31 PM
RussianPooper
What does Gettysburg have to do with the Russian Revolution or Communism?

I'm not sure, but I'm guessing its the same as the relationship between the WTC site and a muslim community center. Foreign-ish things don't belong near nationalist symbols or something like that.

What gets me, though, is this stuff:

FTFA:What the Russian revolution unleashed was a nightmare - a historical human catastrophe.

Stalin wasn't very different from the old autocrats and things in Russia have always been kinda shiatty. Each time a (relatively) liberal leader comes to power, he gets replaced with an old fashioned orthodox authoritarian. I'm not sure that things would have been much different had the revolution never occurred.
 
2012-09-25 01:16:31 PM

gshepnyc: You know, you air-headed right-wingers need to calm down and stop panicking that there are enemies and subversives everywhere. Seriously. You're farking batshiat, pants-on-head retarded at this point.


I really wanted to see the comments section there, but there isn't any :C

/I need my fix of American Outrage
 
2012-09-25 01:24:50 PM

lordaction: This is a direct result of the marxism being shoveled into kids by the teacher unions. How pathetic does your ideology have to be when the only way it can gain traction is by brainwashing children?


Do you ever wonder why people laugh at you or call you crazy?
 
2012-09-25 01:25:16 PM
"A Pennsylvania high school marching band is raising eyebrows..."

Is "raising eyebrows" the new "Some people are saying..."?
 
2012-09-25 01:30:59 PM

RussianPooper: "There is no reason for Americans to celebrate the Russian revolution," said one irate parent who alerted Fox News. "I am sure the millions who died under Communism would not see the joy of celebrating the Russian revolution by a school 10 miles from Gettysburg."

What does Gettysburg have to do with the Russian Revolution or Communism?


More importantly, why is a right-winger celebrating the defeat of the Confederacy?
 
2012-09-25 01:33:23 PM
My grandfather fought his whole life against Stalinists.
Over half of my extended family was murdered or deported never to be heard from again by the KGB
Over 75% of my wife's family were.
I hate vladimir putin and his dictatorial regime
Stalinist communism was an evil that brought death and despair to millions
The great famine and other great holocausts of Stalinism have gone largely unremarked
I hate the double standard when it comes to discussions of Naziism and discussions of Stalinism.

AND YET

I AM OK WITH THIS.

Why?

Because, at least from the first to paragraphs that I skimmed, this event commemorates the Soviet/Russian revolution of 1917.

That revolution was essentially a legitimate grassroots anti-monarchist, anti-anachronism-capitalist true people's event. it lifted the serfs out of bondage, it showed people could say NO to being fed into the furnaces of the fronts (neither the germans nor the british were strong enough to do this), and it was all told an optimistic and principled affair built upon a stronger set of legitimate ideals than, dare I say it, was the American revolution, which, however, commendable the outcome, was fought under the lamest of pretenses (I say this as a proud American nevertheless).

So, somewhere in between veterans day, memorial day, 911 day, columbus day, flag day, pearl harbor day, d-day, and all the other things done in high schools to commemorate right wing triumphalism (and before you say it, labor day has had nothing to do with labor for quite some time), I am ok with commemorating an event that truly was of the people.

even if, as it turned out, it was later cynically exploited and turned into one of the greatest horrors of world history.

this is NOT the same as commemorating adolf for making the trains run on time or whatever early in his reign--even if that were true, the was never a commendable basis for adolf's reign. the russian revolution, however, was in many way truly and important event as it showed that labor and the middle classes can have a voice and their voice is important. and, it does have a positive legacy - much of the improvements to working conditions in the USA and western europe in the early 20th century can be directly tied to the Russian revolution.

viva la revolucion.
 
2012-09-25 01:35:21 PM
FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

My previous long missive not withstanding, you sir, are an eedjit. If you are referring to the soviet union as a whole, then, why yes, millions and millions and millions were murdered and their loss has been minimized for too long by fools like yourself who simply turn a blind eye to it.
 
2012-09-25 01:36:12 PM
Did someone say Glee?
 
2012-09-25 01:36:15 PM
They did not interview anyone other than a guaranteed outrage quote generator.

I for one am outraged!
 
2012-09-25 01:38:36 PM
Woops. I meant to post this: 
autostraddle.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com
 
2012-09-25 01:51:19 PM

Bomb Head Mohammed: Because, at least from the first to paragraphs that I skimmed, this event commemorates the Soviet/Russian revolution of 1917.


Not really, no.

They were playing the music of Soviet composer Dmitri Shostakovich. Someone conflated that to a Russian Revolution show.

Unless they were playing bits from his 2nd (unlikely) or 12th symphonies, the show very likely had little to do with October.
 
2012-09-25 01:51:47 PM

Bomb Head Mohammed: millions and millions and millions were murdered

[citation needed]

 
2012-09-25 01:53:24 PM

Shostie: Bomb Head Mohammed: Because, at least from the first to paragraphs that I skimmed, this event commemorates the Soviet/Russian revolution of 1917.

Not really, no.

They were playing the music of Soviet composer Dmitri Shostakovich. Someone conflated that to a Russian Revolution show.

Unless they were playing bits from his 2nd (unlikely) or 12th symphonies, the show very likely had little to do with October.


FarkedOver: Bomb Head Mohammed: millions and millions and millions were murdered

[citation needed]


Really? You guys are engaging a guy with the nick "Bomb Head Mohammed?" What part of troll do you not see?
 
2012-09-25 01:55:15 PM

Snort: Really? You guys are engaging a guy with the nick "Bomb Head Mohammed?" What part of troll do you not see?


Meh. You're right. And I'm bored.
 
2012-09-25 01:55:54 PM

Shostie: Snort: Really? You guys are engaging a guy with the nick "Bomb Head Mohammed?" What part of troll do you not see?

Meh. You're right. And I'm bored.


Beats the hell out of actually working.
 
2012-09-25 02:17:23 PM
Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]
 
2012-09-25 02:27:18 PM

Bomb Head Mohammed: Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]


Please limit the discussion to the Communist Revolution. Feel free to cite the battles between the White army factions and the Reds.

Crap, now I am talking to the troll.
 
2012-09-25 02:35:04 PM

Bomb Head Mohammed: Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]


You didn't even link them. I don't want to copy & paste. WTF man.
 
2012-09-25 02:37:17 PM
Should we bring up that the 1812 overture (the piece played at every 4th of July spectacle) commemorates the Russian victory over Napoleon?
 
2012-09-25 02:45:29 PM
Snort: Bomb Head Mohammed: Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]

Please limit the discussion to the Communist Revolution. Feel free to cite the battles between the White army factions and the Reds.



Crap, now I am talking to the troll.

Sorry Snort - maybe we're talking at cross purposes. Of course many did not die in the revolution itself. Duh. But look at the original message:

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

Clearly, FarkedOver he's not talking about the Russian Revolution per se. He's expanded his discussion into revisionist denial of deaths under the soviet regime in general. Or, if he thinks he hasn't, then he should learn to write clearly.
 
2012-09-25 02:54:16 PM

Bomb Head Mohammed: Snort: Bomb Head Mohammed: Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]

Please limit the discussion to the Communist Revolution. Feel free to cite the battles between the White army factions and the Reds.



Crap, now I am talking to the troll.

Sorry Snort - maybe we're talking at cross purposes. Of course many did not die in the revolution itself. Duh. But look at the original message:

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

Clearly, FarkedOver he's not talking about the Russian Revolution per se. He's expanded his discussion into revisionist denial of deaths under the soviet regime in general. Or, if he thinks he hasn't, then he should learn to write clearly.


Sorry your relatives were killed (justifiably). Shouldn't have been counter-revolutionary. Sorry comrade.
 
2012-09-25 03:10:21 PM

maxximillian: Should we bring up that the 1812 overture (the piece played at every 4th of July spectacle) commemorates the Russian victory over Napoleon?


Was that the communist victory over republicanism ?

/CANNONS FARK YEH!
 
2012-09-25 03:14:14 PM
heh, I live across the street from a communist party branch office. Not relevant, but whatever
 
2012-09-25 03:28:21 PM

somedude210: I've been meaning to start reading a new book: Spies and Commissars? It looked like a really good history of the actual revolution. I admit, I know the causes and the eventual outcome, but the chaos that ensued from the fall of the czar to the rise of Lenin/Stalin must be fascinating

/Also, Leon Trotsky's autobiography is a boring, slow, boring boring book
//Trotsky, however, seems like an interesting guy
///The Trotsky, is a farking awesome movie



This deals more with WWII but I found it very interesting. The Greatest Battle: Stalin, Hitler, and the Desperate Struggle for Moscow That Changed the Course of World War II
 
2012-09-25 03:34:08 PM
maxximillian: Should we bring up that the 1812 overture (the piece played at every 4th of July spectacle) commemorates the Russian victory over Napoleon?

I'm sure if someone was marching around with pictures of the Czar during 4th of July celebrations, some folks might have a problem with it.

/nice idea to celebrate Russian music, but poor execution lady Band Directors part.
 
2012-09-25 03:36:21 PM

FarkedOver: Bomb Head Mohammed: Snort: Bomb Head Mohammed: Ah, so denial of the millions murdered under stalinism is ok now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#So v iet_famine_of_1932.E2.80.931933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[citation given, waknas]

Please limit the discussion to the Communist Revolution. Feel free to cite the battles between the White army factions and the Reds.



Crap, now I am talking to the troll.

Sorry Snort - maybe we're talking at cross purposes. Of course many did not die in the revolution itself. Duh. But look at the original message:

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".

Clearly, FarkedOver he's not talking about the Russian Revolution per se. He's expanded his discussion into revisionist denial of deaths under the soviet regime in general. Or, if he thinks he hasn't, then he should learn to write clearly.

Sorry your relatives were killed (justifiably). Shouldn't have been counter-revolutionary. Sorry comrade.


Watch and learn, Jim Green Font, watch and learn
 
2012-09-25 03:49:45 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Shostie: Okay. Did some digging. Their show for 2012 is "The Music of Shostakovich."

*sigh*

Any time you see Todd Starnes' byline you can be certain you're not getting the whole story.


Oh, look.

Gerson Moreno-Riano, dean of Regent University's College of Arts & Sciences, told Fox News the performance is shocking.

"The Russian revolution was one of the most violent episodes of the 20th Century," he said. "Lenin put into place a doctrine of mass terror to crush the opposition and thousands and thousands of people were murdered.

The history professor said there's very little to celebrate in that movement.


Yes, I'm sure we're getting unbiased news here.
 
2012-09-25 03:55:52 PM

FarkedOver: People have a really retarded view when it comes to the Russian Revolution. I'm sorry, but the soviets really didn't kill as many people as is stated. If we applied the same rules to capitalist countries I bet you anything there have been more deaths as a result of capitalism than "communism".


Counting the political prisoners used as human shields for their tanks when they drove the Germans back in world war II as casualties of war I take it?
 
2012-09-25 04:00:30 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
Hlam barahlo
 
2012-09-25 04:04:07 PM
What? No video of the performance?
 
2012-09-25 04:06:01 PM

albatros183: maxximillian: Should we bring up that the 1812 overture (the piece played at every 4th of July spectacle) commemorates the Russian victory over Napoleon?

Was that the communist victory over republicanism ?

/CANNONS FARK YEH!


I'm down with that:

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-25 04:06:50 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."



Got a link to those "relevant facts" he's allegedly omitting, or is this just another ad-hominem Tuesday?
 
2012-09-25 04:18:22 PM

spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."


Got a link to those "relevant facts" he's allegedly omitting, or is this just another ad-hominem Tuesday?


Link
 
2012-09-25 05:11:26 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."


Got a link to those "relevant facts" he's allegedly omitting, or is this just another ad-hominem Tuesday?

Link



Link to...uh, Google's cache of the marching band's information-free website, which has since been put behind a password? What damning "relevant facts" am I supposed to take away from that that were omitted from TFA?
 
2012-09-25 05:48:08 PM

spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."


Got a link to those "relevant facts" he's allegedly omitting, or is this just another ad-hominem Tuesday?

Link


Link to...uh, Google's cache of the marching band's information-free website, which has since been put behind a password? What damning "relevant facts" am I supposed to take away from that that were omitted from TFA?


That the show wasn't a tribute to communism.

The idea that any mention or acknowledgement of the revolution is an endorsement is, of course, IDIOTIC.
But Starnes knows his audience.
 
2012-09-25 06:07:05 PM
Obviously the problem isn't the system but the people running it
*cough*

The people of Russia have always been shat on by their government whether it be through Gudunov permanently binding Russian serfs to their land (saying that legal change wasn't slavery is like saying the South was really fighting over states rights during the American Civil War) to the Czars/Tsars to the useful idiots for the Russian Revolution in 1917 and throughout the years of authoritarian rule.

Everywhere else it has been tried it has failed with catastrophic loss of human life. The intentions were great like the French revolution but that only lead to a reign of terror that was ended by Napoleon. Pride cometh before the fall
 
2012-09-25 07:14:56 PM

lordaction: This is a direct result of the marxism being shoveled into kids by the teacher unions. How pathetic does your ideology have to be when the only way it can gain traction is by brainwashing children?


Dunno. Try asking the Christians.

/oops.
 
2012-09-25 07:38:03 PM
WOW...can't believe there are actually people on here defending the Russian Revolution.
ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2012-09-25 10:09:58 PM
Celebration of communism? Or, as I like to call it, Democratic Party Propaganda
 
2012-09-25 11:53:39 PM
Ivan Bunin, Untimely Thoughts.
 
2012-09-26 12:14:27 AM

Shostie: Bomb Head Mohammed: Because, at least from the first to paragraphs that I skimmed, this event commemorates the Soviet/Russian revolution of 1917.

Not really, no.

They were playing the music of Soviet composer Dmitri Shostakovich. Someone conflated that to a Russian Revolution show.

Unless they were playing bits from his 2nd (unlikely) or 12th symphonies, the show very likely had little to do with October.


Well...I'd say the primary issue was prancing around the damn field with the hammer and sickle. Don't you think that's a bit more than an homage to DS?
 
2012-09-26 12:35:36 AM
I blame Glee, FARK YOU GLEE!!
 
2012-09-26 08:11:34 PM
DamnYankees
That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

BE AFRAID OF EVERYTHING

DON'T THINK, JUST BE AFRAID
 
2012-09-27 01:54:25 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: spmkk: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: That article didn't contain any justification for why they did this. There has to be some other story, right?

It's Todd Starnes. His whole schtick is omitting relevant facts to make something appear outrageous.
His name is synonymous with "didn't happen."


Got a link to those "relevant facts" he's allegedly omitting, or is this just another ad-hominem Tuesday?

Link


Link to...uh, Google's cache of the marching band's information-free website, which has since been put behind a password? What damning "relevant facts" am I supposed to take away from that that were omitted from TFA?

That the show wasn't a tribute to communism.

The idea that any mention or acknowledgement of the revolution is an endorsement is, of course, IDIOTIC.
But Starnes knows his audience."



Marching with a hammer and sickle while playing period music is not "mention" or "acknowledgement" - unless it was satire (which I think we can all agree it wasn't), it's an endorsement.
 
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