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2012-09-25 11:33:18 AM  

oh_please: MugzyBrown: I can't believe we've gone all of these years and this is the first time a ref blew a call that cost a team a game... damn replacement refs.

Google "Ed Hochuli blown call".


There's a difference between a blown call affecting the course of a game (happens, but a single call doesn't usually later it that much) and literally the last play of the game being a TD that a ref got wrong, changing the outcome 100% no matter what happens afterwards.
 
2012-09-25 11:33:35 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: 5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)


That arm seems to be passing under Jennings right arm, between that arm and Jennings body. That's doesn't violate basic anatomy.
 
2012-09-25 11:33:45 AM  

roc6783: Jim from Saint Paul: shiatTY REFFING HAPPENS WITH THE REGULAR REFS TOO.

So to quote everyone who ever told me that I should get over the refs being incompetent in that game: "Hey, it's your fault you were in a position to let the refs decide who would win the game".

And to quote myself: "Suck it Packer fans. HAHA."

One day, I may tire of posting this video in response to you, but not yet.

///I do not begrudge your enjoyment of this moment as a Vikings fan, but can you really enjoy it as a football fan?


"Hey, it's your fault you were in a position to let the refs decide who would win the game".

/he did it to you too
//The Steelers vs Seahhawks SB had tons of missed calls that affected the game, so did the 2009 NFC championship game
///people can't have it both ways... either you shouldn't be in that position or the refs jobbed your team
////choose... but choose wisely
 
2012-09-25 11:33:58 AM  
This will be good...

"We stand by...blah blah blah"

"Maintain confidence in...blah blah blah"

Just hand me my wizard hat now.
 
2012-09-25 11:34:08 AM  

stappawho: Yanks_RSJ: IAmRight: Also, NO REF SIGNALED TOUCHBACK. The signal for touchback is one arm waving over the head. Why do people keep saying that a ref signaled touchback?

He didn't get a chance to because he shifted into "hey what the fark are you doing" mode with the dipshiat who signaled touchdown.

So his arms out at his sides somehow translates into waving an arm over his head?


just stop
 
2012-09-25 11:34:10 AM  

proteus_b: wow that indeed was a horrible, horrible call. i can see that it would be difficult to make the call from the field, and i respect that mistakes could be made, whether by 20 year vets or by replacement refs. but how on earth did that get upheld upon review? i know that if it's uncertain, the ruling on the field stands, but the video is so so so so so so so clear that the receiver did not make that catch. how could they uphold such a call?


Once the play was ruled a TD, possession was automatically give to Tate. Possession, which was incorrectly given to Tate, cannot be reviewed. What was reviewed was whether or not the pass was complete, and since Tate was on the ground with the ball in his grasp, it was ruled complete.
 
2012-09-25 11:34:10 AM  

I_C_Weener: Doesn't matter.  The catch/interception is at the time that the bodies or feet hit the ground...not after they roll off each other.  So, get a screen grab of that time.


Yeah, I haven't seen any of these yet.
 
2012-09-25 11:34:21 AM  
content6.flixster.com

They won't make a reversal. What they will do is schedule a re-match, this time with pointy sticks and loganberries. That should settle things.
 
2012-09-25 11:34:33 AM  
Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 5 of the NFL rulebook discusses a simultaneous catch.

"If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control," the rule states.

That strongly indicates Jennings should have been awarded an interception. Tate never seemed to truly gain joint control. A little known part of the rule explains why it wasn't overturned.

The rulebook also states when a simultaneous catch is ruled, you can't review who made the catch. You can only review if it was complete or incomplete.


Just hire the regular refs back. Pay them what they want and preserve what little respect the NFL has managed to build since the days of leg-whips, eye-gouging, all white teams, etc...

/Maybe they could hire some black refs...1988 was the first one.
 
2012-09-25 11:34:50 AM  

12349876: MugzyBrown: 12349876: The pro sports leagues aren't a fan of the gambling and it's been a barrier to Vegas getting a pro team.

lol

Gambing is what makes the NFL so popular. The NFL is very much a big fan of Vegas.

the NFL has taken the position that gambling on NFL games should be prohibited.

Link


Of course the NFL has to take that position, to protect the integrity of the...oh, wait
 
2012-09-25 11:35:00 AM  

CCCarnie: I actually think TD is the right call. It probably shouldn't be the right call... But according to the rules, if both players have control of the ball when they come down, it's a simultaneous catch. A simultaneous catch goes to the offensive player.

The problem lies with the definition of "control". Jennings obviously has more control of the ball. However, the rule does not take that into account. Tate has 2 hands on the ball in the air and when he lands, ends up with an arm around it and the other hand on the ball. That is enough to be considered "control". Control is not defined in the NFL rulebook, but it is used in the definition of "possession", which says: "When a player controls the ball throughout the act of clearly touching both feet, or any other part of his body other than his hand(s), to the ground inbounds." If Jennings was not there, and a single player came down with the ball with 1 arm around it and the other hand on it, that would count as possession, which then means it counts for control. Both players have control. Simultaneous catch. Ball goes to Tate.

That's not bad referree-ing, that's a poorly written rule. (Bad referee-ing would be the roughing the passer call on the first play of the drive.)


ESPN debunked the crap out of "simultaneous catch" last night. Including commentary from the real refs.
 
2012-09-25 11:35:05 AM  

I_C_Weener:
Doesn't matter.  The catch/interception is at the time that the bodies or feet hit the ground...not after they roll off each other.  So, get a screen grab of that time.


Incorrect - you can have a catch and have it in possession as it hits the ground, but if you lose control upon or shortly after hitting the ground, it is an incompletion. You have to have full control through the entire motion - and you have to have control at the same time as Jennings, which does not happen.
 
2012-09-25 11:35:06 AM  

bartink: rufus-t-firefly: 5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)

That arm seems to be passing under Jennings right arm, between that arm and Jennings body. That's doesn't violate basic anatomy.


There was a third arm on the grassy knoll.
 
2012-09-25 11:35:18 AM  

IAmRight: bartink: Apparently you have control of it if you jumped higher than the other guy even when both of you have your hands on the ball at the same time and throughout the process of going to the ground.


Except Jennings had both hands on the ball before Tate had one hand on the ball as they were on their way to the ground.

/GB gets jobbed
//Them's the breaks
 
2012-09-25 11:35:42 AM  

netweavr: rufus-t-firefly: I can't post inline pics, but here's a link to the one I refer to below. If someone wants to repost inside the thread, feel free.

Here's a screengrab from the moment before the refs made their calls.
1 - the ball
2 - Jennings' left arm
3 - Jennings' right arm
4 - Tate's right arm
5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)

The ball is cradled by both of Jennings' arms. Even if we assume that Tate's right hand is on it, that's not "simultaneous possession" - that's sole possession by Jennings.

Tate's left arm is wrapped around Jenning's right-side and grabbing onto Tate's right wrist. He has Jennings' not the ball. If you back up a few frames you can see it clearer.


Christ, you people are blind.
Link Either Tate has a massive genetic defect in his left arm that makes it: a) twice as long and b) twice as dark or that is Jenning's arm.
 
2012-09-25 11:35:44 AM  

oh_please: MugzyBrown: I can't believe we've gone all of these years and this is the first time a ref blew a call that cost a team a game... damn replacement refs.

Google "Ed Hochuli blown call".


Which one?
 
2012-09-25 11:35:47 AM  

12349876: the NFL has taken the position that gambling on NFL games should be prohibited in New Jersey.

Link

Fixed that for you
 
2012-09-25 11:36:03 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: shiatTY REFFING HAPPENS WITH THE REGULAR REFS TOO.


Therefore, the replacements should be given a pass on their shiatty officiating. I mean, it's not like we're playing in the highest-level of football, here. 

/Goodell to fans: You'll get over it.
 
2012-09-25 11:36:20 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: I can't post inline pics, but here's a link to the one I refer to below. If someone wants to repost inside the thread, feel free.

Here's a screengrab from the moment before the refs made their calls.
1 - the ball
2 - Jennings' left arm
3 - Jennings' right arm
4 - Tate's right arm
5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)

The ball is cradled by both of Jennings' arms. Even if we assume that Tate's right hand is on it, that's not "simultaneous possession" - that's sole possession by Jennings.


Tate's left arm is above Jennings' chest, not under it at that point.
 
2012-09-25 11:36:39 AM  
That bad call cancelled out the artificial life the refs kept giving to Green Bay's offense. Justice served.
 
2012-09-25 11:37:23 AM  

stappawho: Yanks_RSJ: IAmRight: Also, NO REF SIGNALED TOUCHBACK. The signal for touchback is one arm waving over the head. Why do people keep saying that a ref signaled touchback?

He didn't get a chance to because he shifted into "hey what the fark are you doing" mode with the dipshiat who signaled touchdown.

So his arms out at his sides somehow translates into waving an arm over his head?


Maybe you should watch a video instead of looking at a still photo. Or just stop being a buffoon, either way.
 
2012-09-25 11:38:10 AM  

I_C_Weener: rufus-t-firefly: I can't post inline pics, but here's a link to the one I refer to below. If someone wants to repost inside the thread, feel free.

Here's a screengrab from the moment before the refs made their calls.
1 - the ball
2 - Jennings' left arm
3 - Jennings' right arm
4 - Tate's right arm
5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)

The ball is cradled by both of Jennings' arms. Even if we assume that Tate's right hand is on it, that's not "simultaneous possession" - that's sole possession by Jennings.

Doesn't matter.  The catch/interception is at the time that the bodies or feet hit the ground...not after they roll off each other.  So, get a screen grab of that time.


The refs stood for a moment and watched the struggle before making their calls. Since they based their calls on what they saw, the moment before the calls were made is relevant.
 
2012-09-25 11:38:15 AM  

AdamK: stappawho: Yanks_RSJ: IAmRight: Also, NO REF SIGNALED TOUCHBACK. The signal for touchback is one arm waving over the head. Why do people keep saying that a ref signaled touchback?

He didn't get a chance to because he shifted into "hey what the fark are you doing" mode with the dipshiat who signaled touchdown.

So his arms out at his sides somehow translates into waving an arm over his head?

just stop


...that's just a stop of play. It's not a touchdown signal, but neither is it a touchback signal.
 
2012-09-25 11:38:23 AM  
Can they reverse the other 30 calls? No..it would be worse to overturn this...

The refs have the best angle since they are on the field, they got it right and the review upheld it..

People just want something to talk about
 
2012-09-25 11:38:31 AM  
Anybody arguing the call itself is an idiot or a troll and should probably be ignored in this conversation.
 
2012-09-25 11:38:38 AM  

SlothB77: Tate's left arm is above Jennings' chest, not under it at that point.


This is true from the other angles. Its obvious.
 
2012-09-25 11:38:52 AM  

Droog8912: netweavr: rufus-t-firefly: I can't post inline pics, but here's a link to the one I refer to below. If someone wants to repost inside the thread, feel free.

Here's a screengrab from the moment before the refs made their calls.
1 - the ball
2 - Jennings' left arm
3 - Jennings' right arm
4 - Tate's right arm
5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)

The ball is cradled by both of Jennings' arms. Even if we assume that Tate's right hand is on it, that's not "simultaneous possession" - that's sole possession by Jennings.

Tate's left arm is wrapped around Jenning's right-side and grabbing onto Tate's right wrist. He has Jennings' not the ball. If you back up a few frames you can see it clearer.

Christ, you people are blind.
Link Either Tate has a massive genetic defect in his left arm that makes it: a) twice as long and b) twice as dark or that is Jenning's arm.


This call cost you a game in Fantasy Football, didn't it?
 
2012-09-25 11:39:27 AM  

Droog8912: netweavr: rufus-t-firefly: I can't post inline pics, but here's a link to the one I refer to below. If someone wants to repost inside the thread, feel free.

Here's a screengrab from the moment before the refs made their calls.
1 - the ball
2 - Jennings' left arm
3 - Jennings' right arm
4 - Tate's right arm
5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)

The ball is cradled by both of Jennings' arms. Even if we assume that Tate's right hand is on it, that's not "simultaneous possession" - that's sole possession by Jennings.

Tate's left arm is wrapped around Jenning's right-side and grabbing onto Tate's right wrist. He has Jennings' not the ball. If you back up a few frames you can see it clearer.

Christ, you people are blind.
Link Either Tate has a massive genetic defect in his left arm that makes it: a) twice as long and b) twice as dark or that is Jenning's arm.


Jennings' right-side, not his left-side.

Take your right hand and touch your left-shoulder, move that hand forward perpendicular to your right shoulder 6-8 inches. Now visualize Tate's right hand in a similar position.

Tate's arm is coming up under Jenning's armpit and across the right-side of Jennings' body.
 
2012-09-25 11:39:59 AM  

Sargun: oh_please: MugzyBrown: I can't believe we've gone all of these years and this is the first time a ref blew a call that cost a team a game... damn replacement refs.

Google "Ed Hochuli blown call".

There's a difference between a blown call affecting the course of a game (happens, but a single call doesn't usually later it that much) and literally the last play of the game being a TD that a ref got wrong, changing the outcome 100% no matter what happens afterwards.


Err, tell that to the Chargers, who had their win given to the Broncos because of a blown call(by Hochuli). That call called correctly would have ended the game with a Chargers win.

Realistically, this seems to be more in line with the Snow Job/Tuck Rule game, where a poorly written rule is utilized to give one team a victory when a reasonable person would suggest the call should go the other way.
 
2012-09-25 11:40:20 AM  

netweavr: Take your right hand and touch your left-shoulder, move that hand forward perpendicular to your right shoulder 6-8 inches. Now visualize Tate's right hand in a similar position.

Tate's arm is coming up under Jenning's armpit and across the right-side of Jennings' body.


Keep going.  I'm almost there.
 
2012-09-25 11:40:30 AM  

MugzyBrown: 12349876: the NFL has taken the position that gambling on NFL games should be prohibited in New Jersey.

Link
Fixed that for you


Why would they not like it in Jersey but not in Vegas? Because the Giants and Jets play in Jersey. So you've proved my point on betting in Vegas being a barrier to pro teams.

Here's something specific about Vegas.

More recent attempts by the NFL to distance itself from gambling have included banning TV networks from picking a winner against a point spread during pre-game telecasts and spiking an ad for the Wynn Las Vegas from airing during the 2005 Super Bowl.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124511421029417367.html

Hopefully fark shows this WSJ link, otherwise search the article titled "The NFL Doesn't Want Your Bets"
 
2012-09-25 11:40:49 AM  

I_C_Weener: rufus-t-firefly: ***snip***

Doesn't matter.   The catch/interception is at the time that the bodies or feet hit the ground...not after they roll off each other.  So, get a screen grab of that time.


No, it isn't. Jennings establishes control of the ball by pulling it into his chest, THEN Tate puts one or both hands on the ball, Jennings and Tate go to the ground, and Jennings maintains control through the process of the catch. since Jennings was first to establish control and maintained it through the process of the catch, he is the only one with possession by rule. Tate does not establish control before or simultaneously with Jennings and so cannot be given possession.
 
2012-09-25 11:40:50 AM  

BigSnatch: To say that Tate, at any point, had any possession of the ball is ludicrous.


i49.tinypic.com

i48.tinypic.com

i47.tinypic.com

So he has the ball in both his hands at all those points, plus the ones that you're linking to.

Ultimately, if Jennings had such control over the ball and Tate was barely touching it, then how did this happen?

i47.tinypic.com

If you have two arms and the ball pinned against your chest and you let the other guy take the ball from you? Maybe if you hit the weight room you'd win.
 
2012-09-25 11:41:29 AM  

IlGreven: Jim from Saint Paul: shiatTY REFFING HAPPENS WITH THE REGULAR REFS TOO.

Therefore, the replacements should be given a pass on their shiatty officiating. I mean, it's not like we're playing in the highest-level of football, here. 

/Goodell to fans: You'll get over it.


Why do people get upset when people drive drunk? Sober people get into accidents all the time.
 
2012-09-25 11:41:33 AM  

bartink: rufus-t-firefly: 5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)

That arm seems to be passing under Jennings right arm, between that arm and Jennings body. That's doesn't violate basic anatomy.


Especially if his left elbow is bent. Imagine Tate's left arm is bent the same direction Tate's right arm is and is above Jennings' chest. It works.
 
2012-09-25 11:42:06 AM  

IlGreven: ...that's just a stop of play. It's not a touchdown signal, but neither is it a touchback signal.


Correct, the ref did not signal for a touchback. He made the proper signal to stop the clock, which is ALWAYS the first signal on an interception. Subsequently, the official will signal the change of possession either by pointing in the other direction, or making the signal for a touchback.

In this case, the official didn't signal a touchback because the other dope was signaling touchdown. That doesn't change the fact that he was going to rule it an interception.
 
2012-09-25 11:42:07 AM  

IAmRight: BigSnatch: To say that Tate, at any point, had any possession of the ball is ludicrous.

[i49.tinypic.com image 325x315]

[i48.tinypic.com image 255x256]

[i47.tinypic.com image 235x277]

So he has the ball in both his hands at all those points, plus the ones that you're linking to.

Ultimately, if Jennings had such control over the ball and Tate was barely touching it, then how did this happen?

[i47.tinypic.com image 293x270]

If you have two arms and the ball pinned against your chest and you let the other guy take the ball from you? Maybe if you hit the weight room you'd win.


Nice series of screen shots.  
 
2012-09-25 11:42:15 AM  

Citrate1007: The call was bad, but the Packers have had years worth of one sided officiating in their favor while at Lambeau Field....so fark them it's karma.


blog.2modern.com

Still the officiating this season is ruining the game and my enjoyment of it.
 
2012-09-25 11:43:01 AM  

I_C_Weener: rufus-t-firefly: I can't post inline pics, but here's a link to the one I refer to below. If someone wants to repost inside the thread, feel free.

Here's a screengrab from the moment before the refs made their calls.
1 - the ball
2 - Jennings' left arm
3 - Jennings' right arm
4 - Tate's right arm
5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)

The ball is cradled by both of Jennings' arms. Even if we assume that Tate's right hand is on it, that's not "simultaneous possession" - that's sole possession by Jennings.

Doesn't matter.  The catch/interception is at the time that the bodies or feet hit the ground...not after they roll off each other.  So, get a screen grab of that time.


Incorrect, this was in the end-zone.

Never forget
 
2012-09-25 11:43:05 AM  

halfof33: rufus-t-firefly: 5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)

It is underneath the ball between the ball and the Packer's chest.

Call was correct.

Seahawks win.

End of story.


Touching the ball does not establish control, otherwise the Calvin Johnson play would not have been ruled incomplete. That ruling hinged on the fact that, while Johnson was touching the ball through the process of the catch, he did not maintain control.

Jennings establishes control first, maintains it throughout the process, and it should have been an interception.
 
2012-09-25 11:43:16 AM  
People only care because it was the beloved packers.

If it was Seattle or Buffalo or Cleveland that lost on that call? Non issue.
 
2012-09-25 11:43:22 AM  

I_C_Weener: Keep going. I'm almost there.


Firmly against his chest, Jennings can feel his strong muscles flexing against him, Tate's hardness nuzzling his backside. They struggle, both men struggling from exertion. Primal urges course through both men as they fight each other for victory.
 
2012-09-25 11:43:24 AM  

12349876: Why would they not like it in Jersey but not in Vegas? Because the Giants and Jets play in Jersey. So you've proved my point on betting in Vegas being a barrier to pro teams.


There's a difference between a public stance for PR purposes and what the NFL would really want.

If sports gambling is banned (and some how enforced) NFL ratings drop signficantly and so does the owners' revenue.

Fantasy football is gambling and NFL.com provides the service to have fantasy leagues.

The NFL would be its own sports book if it could.
 
2012-09-25 11:43:30 AM  

Sargun: oh_please: MugzyBrown: I can't believe we've gone all of these years and this is the first time a ref blew a call that cost a team a game... damn replacement refs.

Google "Ed Hochuli blown call".

There's a difference between a blown call affecting the course of a game (happens, but a single call doesn't usually later it that much) and literally the last play of the game being a TD that a ref got wrong, changing the outcome 100% no matter what happens afterwards.


It wasn't a bad call during the course of the game, it was a call with a minute left on the clock. If Hochuli had made the correct call, the Chargers would have taken possession, then kneeled down 2-3 times, game over.

To Ed's credit, he completely manned up, publicly admitted he blew it, and actually took the time to personally answer all the hate email directed to him at his law firm.
 
2012-09-25 11:43:59 AM  

stappawho: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Marine1: A reversal is the only way the league keeps its integrity. NFL football was, until this season, the most well-officiated game on the face of the earth.

Oh BS...Green Bay had plenty of garbage calls go their way, too, including one on their own TD drive.

You can't claim that had the refs been better, the Packers would not have still lost that game, because again...their were BS calls (and non-calls) all over the place going both ways.

Right. They got a BS PI call that led to the TD. They would have had to kick a field goal (which they would have done because they were going to kick a field goal on 4th and 1 from the 2 until the call go overturned). Seattle would have only needed a field goal to win and not a TD.

Anyways, it's crappy officiating all around.


Bingo. My point is everyone should have been up in arms with or without this final play, and instead people are pretending that GB got screwed and non of the preceding bullsh*t calls ever happened.

Given that the officiating was equally bad across the board, the bottom line is Green Bay did not deserve to win this game. People just focusing on the last play they saw is being intellectually dishonest.
 
2012-09-25 11:44:06 AM  

12349876: the NFL has taken the position that gambling on NFL games should be prohibited.


www.mccamley.org
 
2012-09-25 11:44:43 AM  

CCCarnie: Correct, but if you watch the replay again, they both went up and caught the ball at the same time. I would say that Jennings got a better hold, but Tate also caught the ball at about the same time


Wrong. Touching the ball is not control.
 
2012-09-25 11:45:32 AM  

roc6783: No, it isn't. Jennings establishes control of the ball by pulling it into his chest, THEN Tate puts one or both hands on the ball, Jennings and Tate go to the ground, and Jennings maintains control through the process of the catch. since Jennings was first to establish control and maintained it through the process of the catch, he is the only one with possession by rule. Tate does not establish control before or simultaneously with Jennings and so cannot be given possession.


WRONG! I am baffled by this. Tate's left arm was between the ball and jennings' chest. that is why he had possession and that is why they refs gave him the catch.

End of story.
 
2012-09-25 11:45:40 AM  

netweavr:
5 - Tate's left arm (not pictured, but had to be either underneath Jennings or otherwise not holding the ball, just based on basic human anatomy)


Sorry, Netweavr, this is to what I was referring. His arm is clearly not "underneath Jennings", but rather he's holding onto both the ball and arm. Didn't mean to implicate you.

Tate's arm is coming up under Jenning's armpit and across the right-side of Jennings' body.

Correct, which is how most simultaneous catches happen. All I'm saying is "close enough to make a tough call" and blaming the replacement refs here is stupid. Blaming them for the rest of the game, where actual and substantial errors were made, is not.
 
2012-09-25 11:45:42 AM  

DamnYankees: There no chance in hell they reverse the call now. And they shouldn't.


Funny you should say that, but I found this video of the play that has removed the ESPN commentary and replaced it with what Goodell heard:

MNF Audio fixed
 
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