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(NFL)   NFL to address the MNF call on the last play this morning. Reversal? Fantasy Owners / Survivor poolers want to know   (nfl.com) divider line 539
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2012-09-25 10:35:14 AM  
Can't tarnish best commissioner's image.

So many crap calls this week, embarrassing.
 
2012-09-25 10:35:49 AM  
A reversal is the only way the league keeps its integrity. NFL football was, until this season, the most well-officiated game on the face of the earth.
 
2012-09-25 10:37:15 AM  
There no chance in hell they reverse the call now. And they shouldn't.
 
2012-09-25 10:38:29 AM  
I'd be shocked if the NFL reversed a score. I can't see that happening.
 
2012-09-25 10:39:11 AM  

DamnYankees: There no chance in hell they reverse the call now. And they shouldn't.


This.
 
2012-09-25 10:39:17 AM  
shiatTY REFFING HAPPENS WITH THE REGULAR REFS TOO.

So to quote everyone who ever told me that I should get over the refs being incompetent in that game: "Hey, it's your fault you were in a position to let the refs decide who would win the game".

And to quote myself: "Suck it Packer fans. HAHA."
 
2012-09-25 10:39:19 AM  
If you are in a survivor pool and picked the packers on the road this week...you deserve what you get. Not saying they shouldn't have won, but there were a lot better bets out there this week. And if you picked the Seahawks, well, you are equally crazy.
 
2012-09-25 10:39:25 AM  
That's one heck of a slippery slope.
 
2012-09-25 10:39:27 AM  

DamnYankees: There no chance in hell they reverse the call now. And they shouldn't.


Didn't they come back out and kick the extra point? By every definition I have ever heard, if the run another play, the previous call stands
 
2012-09-25 10:39:29 AM  
The call was bad, but the Packers have had years worth of one sided officiating in their favor while at Lambeau Field....so fark them it's karma.
 
2012-09-25 10:39:38 AM  
All ready with the bricks and incindiary devices in Seattlke!
 
2012-09-25 10:39:48 AM  
IMHO, NFL can't/won't reverse it as that would inherently admit a mistake had been made. I'll be shocked if it's reversed.


That being said, it was a frickin' interception.
 
2012-09-25 10:41:19 AM  

Marine1: A reversal is the only way the league keeps its integrity. NFL football was, until this season, the most well-officiated game on the face of the earth.


Not a chance in hell this happens. My guess is the NFL admits the outcome "wasn't perfect" and comes out with stats that help them tell the story that fake refs are nearly as good as the real thing. And that we just need to give them time. This is going to be about managing PR, not doing what's right.
 
2012-09-25 10:41:27 AM  
It's these guys 3rd week (really 3rd day) on the job.

You were still mistakenly trying to get the fries out of the deep fryer bare handed after a month.....
 
2012-09-25 10:41:41 AM  

DamnYankees: There no chance in hell they reverse the call now. And they shouldn't.


I have to agree. That's just a huge can of worms. I think every fan has had to watch their team win/lose on a bad call, and we all get over it eventually. This was most egregious than most, but the last thing I want to do it wait for 2 days after a game for the league to fix everything.

Come to think of it, the NFL has every day except Tuesday and Wednesday covered right now, so I wouldn't be shocked if they had a 3-hour score correction special every Tuesday night where they reveal the real winner of the game you watched on Sunday afternoon.
 
2012-09-25 10:42:16 AM  
I have Seattle +3.5. So Fark that reversal noise.

Here's my prediction for the NFL response: LOL Fark you!
 
2012-09-25 10:42:26 AM  
What they're going to say is that the call on the field - simultaneous catch -- was a judgement call, and that the rules do not allow replay to overturn the judgement call. As the rule on the field was that the catch was simultaneous, and the replay did not show the ball hitting the ground, the call must be upheld on review.
 
2012-09-25 10:43:02 AM  

Marine1: A reversal is the only way the league keeps its integrity. NFL football was, until this season, the most well-officiated game on the face of the earth.


Oh BS...Green Bay had plenty of garbage calls go their way, too, including one on their own TD drive.

You can't claim that had the refs been better, the Packers would not have still lost that game, because again...their were BS calls (and non-calls) all over the place going both ways.
 
2012-09-25 10:44:07 AM  
Never bet against the trollhawks at home.
 
2012-09-25 10:44:08 AM  

DamnYankees: There no chance in hell they reverse the call now. And they shouldn't.


It is the Seahawks, so I'd say there's a decent chance of a reversal. They don't tolerate Seattle getting the benefit of the doubt.
 
2012-09-25 10:45:40 AM  
A reversal sets a precedent. Then every whiny biatch coach in the league will be calling for one for the slightest on infractions.
 
2012-09-25 10:45:47 AM  
Also, NO REF SIGNALED TOUCHBACK. The signal for touchback is one arm waving over the head. Why do people keep saying that a ref signaled touchback?
 
2012-09-25 10:47:18 AM  

Citrate1007: The call was bad, but the Packers have had years worth of one sided officiating in their favor while at Lambeau Field....so fark them it's karma.


Upon further review, the Bears still suck.

Majkowski did not go over the line...completely.
 
2012-09-25 10:48:12 AM  

Torgo_of_Manos: DamnYankees: There no chance in hell they reverse the call now. And they shouldn't.

Didn't they come back out and kick the extra point? By every definition I have ever heard, if the run another play, the previous call stands


Given the amount of time between the touchdown* and the extra point, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Goodell himself called the Packers' locker room and ordered McCarthy to put his team back on that field. That play was an interception, but there's nothing the Packers can do about it now except win enough games for this one not to matter.
 
2012-09-25 10:48:17 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: shiatTY REFFING HAPPENS WITH THE REGULAR REFS TOO.

So to quote everyone who ever told me that I should get over the refs being incompetent in that game: "Hey, it's your fault you were in a position to let the refs decide who would win the game".

And to quote myself: "Suck it Packer fans. HAHA."


This, ladies and gentlemen, is why, despite living in Minnesota for well over a decade, I will never, ever be a Vikings fan. Couldn't stand the idea of being associated with assholishness like this.
 
2012-09-25 10:48:19 AM  
Oh good - I was hoping they could find a way to make it even worse than it already is.
 
2012-09-25 10:48:27 AM  

IAmRight: Also, NO REF SIGNALED TOUCHBACK. The signal for touchback is one arm waving over the head. Why do people keep saying that a ref signaled touchback?


He didn't get a chance to because he shifted into "hey what the fark are you doing" mode with the dipshiat who signaled touchdown.
 
2012-09-25 10:48:31 AM  
I'm pretty sure that Vegas will not allow them to reverse the call.
 
Wasn't there a goalline play a few years ago (Seattle too? of Philly?)  that was a clear wrong call.  The NFL came out and said wrong call, can't reverse game, and life sucks but ref will take a week off.
 
2012-09-25 10:49:29 AM  

The Muthaship: It's these guys 3rd week (really 3rd day) on the job.

You were still mistakenly trying to get the fries out of the deep fryer bare handed after a month.....


They worked during pre-season as well, so they've been at this for about two months now.
 
2012-09-25 10:50:03 AM  

basemetal: I'd be shocked if the NFL reversed a score. I can't see that happening.


The NFL front office will never reverse any referee judgment call, no matter how bad, that was made in good faith.

Unless one or more of the officials had money riding on the outcome, the game stands. As it should.
 
2012-09-25 10:50:05 AM  

IAmRight: Also, NO REF SIGNALED TOUCHBACK. The signal for touchback is one arm waving over the head. Why do people keep saying that a ref signaled touchback?


Because that's what the people broadcasting the game said.
 
2012-09-25 10:50:19 AM  
Going to change this one, too?

wildpitchsports.com
 
2012-09-25 10:50:39 AM  

IAmRight: Also, NO REF SIGNALED TOUCHBACK. The signal for touchback is one arm waving over the head. Why do people keep saying that a ref signaled touchback?


Because everyone is convinced the refs are horrible people and need to keep being made to look that way.
 
2012-09-25 10:51:06 AM  

IAmRight: Also, NO REF SIGNALED TOUCHBACK. The signal for touchback is one arm waving over the head. Why do people keep saying that a ref signaled touchback?


Well he didn't do the touchback signal per-say but he did signal for what appeared to be a completion but not a TD which implies he was about to signal a touchback but then noticed the other ref signal TD and froze.

However, based on the competency level of the refs it is just as likely he was confused.
 
2012-09-25 10:52:04 AM  
If I was Goddell, I would walk out to the podium and say, "What are you gonna do, not watch?" then put on troll smiley face mask and calmly answer all questions.
 
2012-09-25 10:52:04 AM  

pheelix: Given the amount of time between the touchdown* and the extra point, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Goodell himself called the Packers' locker room and ordered McCarthy to put his team back on that field. That play was an interception, but there's nothing the Packers can do about it now except win enough games for this one not to matter.


A few years ago, something similar happened in a New England at Buffalo game, and the Bills refused to come back out on the field for the extra point. The Patriots lined up to kick the point and handed the ball off to Vinatieri, who walked into the end zone for a two point conversion.

I also won my fantasy game that week by 1 point because of that.

/csb
 
2012-09-25 10:52:44 AM  
If they reverse the call and i'm putting that at 20% chance, how does Vegas handle that? Obviously they have already paid out a lot of bets on the 'Hawks.
 
2012-09-25 10:53:03 AM  

Dogpants: This, ladies and gentlemen, is why, despite living in Minnesota for well over a decade, I will never, ever be a Vikings fan. Couldn't stand the idea of being associated with assholishness like this.


The only asshole here is the person stating that an entire fan base is made up of assholes.
 
2012-09-25 10:54:10 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: shiatTY REFFING HAPPENS WITH THE REGULAR REFS TOO.


People get mugged in Tokyo, so Detroit is safe,
 
2012-09-25 10:54:29 AM  

IAmRight: Also, NO REF SIGNALED TOUCHBACK. The signal for touchback is one arm waving over the head. Why do people keep saying that a ref signaled touchback?


To be fair, its quite possible the ref was trying to signal touchback but didn't know the gesture.
 
2012-09-25 10:55:22 AM  
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2012-09-25 10:55:36 AM  
Not a chance of it being reversed, but at least everyone outside Seattle knows the packers won
 
2012-09-25 10:56:27 AM  

Orgasmatron138: A reversal sets a precedent. Then every whiny biatch coach in the league will be calling for one for the slightest on infractions.


That's exactly why they won't do it.

All this talk about, "this will finally bring the NFL around and make them pay the real refs" is pure garbage. The owners don't give a fark as long as we keep watching. The only thing that might do it is if some key players start getting injured because the replacement refs are too scared to break up fights or call PFs when they should. If that starts happening, then that's farking with the owners' money, and it may bring them around...I'm not even sure if that will make them cave.
 
2012-09-25 10:57:39 AM  
What makes people think the call is going to be reversed? Has it ever happened in the league?
 
2012-09-25 10:57:46 AM  

Dogpants: Jim from Saint Paul: shiatTY REFFING HAPPENS WITH THE REGULAR REFS TOO.

So to quote everyone who ever told me that I should get over the refs being incompetent in that game: "Hey, it's your fault you were in a position to let the refs decide who would win the game".

And to quote myself: "Suck it Packer fans. HAHA."

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why, despite living in Minnesota for well over a decade, I will never, ever be a Vikings fan. Couldn't stand the idea of being associated with assholishness like this.


Assholishness like this is cultured over the years sir. I am a fine vintage.
 
2012-09-25 10:58:23 AM  
When does a player have control of the ball? Doesn't he have to come down with it first? If that's true, then as long as Tate has two hands on the ball by the time they hit the ground, he wins the ball, right?

Honest question.
 
2012-09-25 10:58:26 AM  

Moopy Mac: Jim from Saint Paul: shiatTY REFFING HAPPENS WITH THE REGULAR REFS TOO.


People get mugged in Tokyo, so Detroit is safe,


hey moops, i think he is just trying to say bad calls happen and sometimes they decide games, not that one is better than the other or acceptable but just part of a physical game. If that is what your confusing analogy is asserting.
 
2012-09-25 10:58:26 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: He didn't get a chance to because he shifted into "hey what the fark are you doing" mode with the dipshiat who signaled touchdown.


Maybe. But people need to stop saying that he signaled for a touchback when he never did. If you watch the replay frame-by-frame, you can see that Tate has one hand on the ball at the same time Jennings does and two hands on the ball all the way to the ground. I don't see how you can definitively claim that Jennings has control of the ball and Tate doesn't.

/should be more upset at the call that WAS super obvious and ignored, the PI on Tate for shoving Shields.
//and the "PI" on Shields earlier
///and the "late hit" on Walden
////and the Seahawks should be upset about the "facemask" on Mebane, the "PI" on Chancellor, the "oh, we're not even going to call for a measurement" on the Rodgers run, the no-call on Woodson interfering right after the BS PI on Shields, etc
 
2012-09-25 10:58:33 AM  
I'm a Bears fan. I REALLY wanted Green Bay to lose. That call SUCKED. Green Bay should have won.

Once the extra point was snapped, the touchdown was on the record. Perhaps that's why Green Bay left the field?
 
2012-09-25 10:59:11 AM  

Moopy Mac: Jim from Saint Paul: shiatTY REFFING HAPPENS WITH THE REGULAR REFS TOO.


People get mugged in Tokyo, so Detroit is safe,


No it means to hide your kids and hide your wife cause they mugging everybody out there.
 
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