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(The New York Times)   Now that China has an aircraft carrier, all they need are some aircraft   (nytimes.com ) divider line
    More: Amusing, Ministry of Defense, Wen Jiabao, military operation plan, National University of Singapore, aircraft, Hu Jintao  
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2012-09-25 12:12:10 PM  
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KiplingKat872: DRTFA, but China has one of the largest air forces in the world subby.


Turns out a land based aircraft != a carrier based aircraft
2012-09-25 02:09:44 PM  
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Game Over
2012-09-25 12:12:33 PM  
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KiplingKat872: DRTFA, but China has one of the largest air forces in the world subby.


However, none of those aircraft are capable, and none of the pilots fully trained, to land on a few hundred feet of metal bobbing in the sea.

The entire point of this particular ship is to train pilots, once they get some aircraft that can handle the rigors of a carrier landing.
2012-09-25 12:08:00 PM  
2 votes:
DRTFA, but China has one of the largest air forces in the world subby.
2012-09-25 12:34:54 PM  
1 vote:

KiplingKat872: DRTFA, but China has one of the largest air forces in the world subby.


Except that means bunk when you're talking about Naval Aviation. An F-16 would fall apart if it had to be recovered and launched from a carrier, and would probably fall nose first into the sea after it stalled leaving the carrier deck on launch.
2012-09-25 12:25:06 PM  
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RugNug: UNC_Samurai: I don't know if I would trust even the most thorough overhaul of Varyag. I'd have put more trust in the Cabot (before it was scrapped) than a Kuznetzov hull.

My Grandfather served on the Cabot in WWII. I have the medical dictionary he used then.


If you're ever in South Texas, go visit the Lexington in Corpus Christi. They were able to save some items off the Cabot before it was scrapped, including a cactus that had found a place to grow in between two planks of the flight deck.
2012-09-25 12:24:56 PM  
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KiplingKat872: UNC_Samurai: The Chinese never bought any Su-33s, however. And I don't think they've modified any J-10s to be carrier-capable.

How much modification does that take tho'? Given the size of their air force and how much money China is currently rolling in, while I agree this is probably a tempest in a tea pot, but I don't think aircraft are really the problem here.


I just looked up the J 10. That thing could land on a carrier...

Once.
2012-09-25 12:17:05 PM  
1 vote:

KiplingKat872: DRTFA, but China has one of the largest air forces in the world subby.


There's these guys in the Western Hemisphere that have a pretty large air force themselves.

I think it's Canada.
2012-09-25 12:13:40 PM  
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Nathan Arizona Sr.:

Eight hundred leaf-tables and no chairs? You can't sell leaf-tables and no chairs. Chairs, you got a dinette set. No chairs, you got d*ck!
2012-09-25 12:12:23 PM  
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KiplingKat872: DRTFA, but China has one of the largest air forces in the world subby.


Land based aircraft aren't suited for carrier type landings.
2012-09-25 12:11:15 PM  
1 vote:

KiplingKat872: DRTFA, but China has one of the largest air forces in the world subby.


Sure, the ones that can actually fly are obsolete. The rest are probably cardboard cutouts.
2012-09-25 12:10:02 PM  
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I don't know if I would trust even the most thorough overhaul of Varyag. I'd have put more trust in the Cabot (before it was scrapped) than a Kuznetzov hull.
 
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