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2012-09-25 06:27:01 AM  
22 votes:
Republicans throwing hissy fits and screaming SOCIALISM every time he tried to do anything, were you not paying attention?
2012-09-25 06:40:23 AM  
14 votes:
i51.tinypic.com
This happened. Oh, and I know I say this often, but fark you, retarded Kentucky voters.
2012-09-25 07:11:04 AM  
9 votes:

johnryan51: My opinion is that Lieberman farked us. No public option. That would have created real competition.


It wasn't just Traitor Joe. Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Evan Bayh, whose wife prostituted...oh, um, that is, lobbied for WellPoint, weren't agreeing to anything until they got their snouts wet. There were plenty of greedy pigs who ruined the public option and single payer options.
2012-09-25 08:52:02 AM  
5 votes:

EnviroDude: It probably went to the same place where he promised to cut the deficit in half rather than double it.


He made no such promise, fool. There's plenty of reality based material to work with, you should try sticking to that.
2012-09-25 12:38:21 PM  
4 votes:

SlothB77: Lando Lincoln: SlothB77: Obama made promises for the first term? What promises?

You know, it's not like you're new here. We know you've seen the list. Don't play dumb.

funny how the liberal media forgets all those promises now that they have been broken.


So you REALLY want us to point to the website that tracks this stuff, and displays how Obama kept a lot more of his promises that he broke? You really want to go there? So you can ignore it again and bring it up next week?
2012-09-25 12:09:38 PM  
4 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: EnviroDude: It probably went to the same place where he promised to cut the deficit in half rather than double it.

How does going from 1.29T to 1.32T "double" ?

Or are you one of those people who thinks FY2009 didn't start in October of 08?


Many people do not understand that "deficit" and "debt", when it comes to economics, are not synonyms.
2012-09-25 06:56:19 AM  
4 votes:
My opinion is that Lieberman farked us. No public option. That would have created real competition.
2012-09-25 09:51:22 AM  
3 votes:
GOP-led filibuster, that's what happened.
2012-09-26 10:06:32 AM  
2 votes:
Republicans:
"We promise to stop any agenda Obama lays out."
"Obama sucks because he hasn't passed all he said he would."
2012-09-25 05:30:06 PM  
2 votes:
If it hasn't already been said, ObCare didn't become effective until mid-2010. Half those increases were in years prior. If Obama really is responsible, it becomes even more imperative that the country rally behind the only candidate with a fully functional time machine.
2012-09-25 04:26:22 PM  
2 votes:

EnviroDude: It probably went to the same place where he promised to cut the deficit in half rather than double it.


Trade deficit. And he's done it. But you don't really care because you are a farking idiot troll.
2012-09-25 04:17:59 PM  
2 votes:
Remember in 2010 when the GOP said JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! then blocked jobs bills, additional stimulus, equal pay labor laws, legislation that would tax corporations for outsourcing American jobs over seas and instead passed nothing but penis-goes-where-rape legislation?
2012-09-25 04:14:58 PM  
2 votes:

MFL: coeyagi SmartestFunniest 2012-09-25 03:41:39 PM


jst3pObama fell short on many campaign promises. Luckily for him the right is running one of the worst campaigns I have ever seen.

MFL:To be fair...the media is running a much more effective campaign against Romney than Obama is.

jst3pYes, using Romney's words against him... the horror.

Of course they do....but only for him.

Obama could buttfark a chicken on live TV and they'd call Mitt Romney unpatriotic for being critical of it.


So rather than provide an example of that which they SHOULD have been critical of him, you not only provided a hypothetical example but also strawmanned that they'd go after Romney instead.

How many different ways can you not make your argument in one sentence? Want to try for 3 next time?
2012-09-25 04:03:39 PM  
2 votes:

MFL: Obama could buttfark a chicken on live TV and they'd call Mitt Romney unpatriotic for being critical of it.


Never underestimate the conservative capacity and desire to be the victim.
2012-09-25 03:58:33 PM  
2 votes:
Liberals cannot mention Bush, but conservatives can invoke Carter in perpetuity. Neato.
2012-09-25 03:53:53 PM  
2 votes:
Say, whatever happened to that bold and definitive promise Obama made to cut health premiums $2,500 by the "end of my first term"?

politicalirony.com
2012-09-25 03:46:47 PM  
2 votes:

skullkrusher: DarwiOdrade: I'm gonna go with GOP obstructionism. Has anyone mentioned that yet?

yes, it is a very compelling reason to vote for the guy who can't get anything done apparently ;)


More a reason to vote out the obstructionists so he can get something done.
2012-09-25 03:26:29 PM  
2 votes:

MyRandomName: And to respond to the "it was due to gop compromise" lie. The gop wanted two main items. Healthcare across state lines and defensive medicine reform through medical malpractice reform. They got neither.

Ironically the latest study showing 30% waste in medical expenditure rightly pointed to excess tests from defense medicine as the largest contributer of waste. Bit liberals wanted to protect their malpractice lawyer industry. Funny that.


Let me guess, you actually think tort reforms work even though they haven't done jacksquat to lower prices in places like Texas and California huh?
2012-09-25 12:40:21 PM  
2 votes:

Confabulat: Republicans throwing hissy fits and screaming SOCIALISM every time he tried to do anything, were you not paying attention?



King Something: GOP-led filibuster, that's what happened.

2012-09-25 12:32:30 PM  
2 votes:

cman: Cythraul: Heh, at this point, my vote for Obama has less to do with his undelivered promises and more to do with just how much farking worse it'd be with Romney. It's not a pleasant decision. But that's where we've come to as a country, it seems.

Join me and throw your vote away for someone else. fark both of em.


You're voting Republican. Stop lying.
2012-09-25 12:15:26 PM  
2 votes:

mysticcat: Let me summarize this thread:

Dems: bad things happen-Boo Republicans, good things happen- Yea Democrats

GOPers: bad things happen-Boo Democrats, good things happen- Yea Republicans

I really hate our polarized political process


Well, the important thing is that you're better than us.
2012-09-25 11:59:48 AM  
2 votes:
Let me summarize this thread:

Dems: bad things happen-Boo Republicans, good things happen- Yea Democrats

GOPers: bad things happen-Boo Democrats, good things happen- Yea Republicans

I really hate our polarized political process
2012-09-25 11:41:03 AM  
2 votes:
Well, the GOP will definitely deliver on cutting our insurance premiums in half, once they get rid of Obamacare and replace it with everything that is in Obamacare, minus the name and the method to pay for it.

See, this is the problem. The GOP offers only horrible solutions to problems.
2012-09-25 10:25:55 AM  
2 votes:

Cythraul: Heh, at this point, my vote for Obama has less to do with his undelivered promises and more to do with just how much farking worse it'd be with Romney. It's not a pleasant decision. But that's where we've come to as a country, it seems.


Join me and throw your vote away for someone else. fark both of em.
2012-09-26 10:40:51 AM  
1 vote:
I came here to read the comments. By the time I got to the bottom, I forgot what the initial fuss was about. Funny how that happens. Based on what I read, perhaps others experienced the same thing.
2012-09-25 07:53:40 PM  
1 vote:

badaboom:

Link


From linked article:
But despite the headline number, the statutory rate only tells part of the story.
Loopholes and other special treatment for different kinds of businesses mean that businesses pay an effective rate of only 29.2% of their income, which puts the United States below the average of 31.9% among other major economies, according to analysis by the Treasury Department.


What the fark was your point? If you were trying to say the US has the highest actual corporate tax rate you're even dumber than I thought since you didn't read the article you cited to prove that point. You are really bad at this.
2012-09-25 05:36:04 PM  
1 vote:

EyeballKid: johnryan51: My opinion is that Lieberman farked us. No public option. That would have created real competition.

It wasn't just Traitor Joe. Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Evan Bayh, whose wife prostituted...oh, um, that is, lobbied for WellPoint, weren't agreeing to anything until they got their snouts wet. There were plenty of greedy pigs who ruined the public option and single payer options.


And Blanche Lincoln, who was apparently proud of her role in killing the public option. Obama did not contact Lincoln during that time (he didn't contact Lieberman either), Obama supported Lincoln during the primary, and the White House taunted the supporters of Halter for not supporting their incumbent (who was so proud of killing the public option).

But none of this is Obama's fault, the devil made him do it.
2012-09-25 05:29:02 PM  
1 vote:
i596.photobucket.com

"If that dagblasted Dimmycrat varmint is FER it, AAAAAAAHHHHHM AGIN it!"
2012-09-25 05:18:21 PM  
1 vote:
Say, whatever happened to that bold and definitive promise Obama made

Raped to death by republicans so they could carry its body around and demand Obama apologize for its death.
2012-09-25 05:16:47 PM  
1 vote:
It's almost like the health insurance industry is gorging at the trough before the Obamacare hammer comes down in full force...
2012-09-25 04:59:31 PM  
1 vote:

coeyagi: badaboom: coeyagi: randomjsa: This thread is so cute. So Obama passes his stupid health care bill and the Republicans haven't been able to do anything about it.

And yet it's their fault that it hasn't magically delivered the 2,500 dollar savings that we told you would never happen [you realize most of Obamacare comes online in 2014, right? wait, you don't? put down the paste burger, corky] . As usual it's never Obama's fault when he says something, gets every opportunity, then doesn't deliver.

Want to know where that 2,500 dollars in savings went? It was never going to happen and Obama knew it. He was blowing smoke as usual just to get something he wanted and what he wanted was far reaching government control over the health care industry because as he stated flatly he knows you can't implement socialized medicine in one fell swoop, so ObamaCare was designed to be the first phase.

You can't actually replace the health care system with government run health care if you passed a law that would actually fix, rather than cause, problems [what problems has it caused? be specific]. So when that 2,500 in savings doesn't happen, when you start paying more, when the whole system starts going off the rails thanks to ObamaCare, do you think liberals are going to say "woops, our bad, lets undo this?"... Of course they're not. They're going to start crying for ObamaCare the sequel. The ultimate goal being to make you completely dependent on the government for your healthcare so you will agree to give Democrats ever more power over your life so they can stay in control.[dependent on the government? dumbass, it's a mandate. you are required to get insurance from a PRIVATE company. that isn't government dependency, you shill, that's personal responsibility]

All in all...

2/10. You at least owned the derp, you didn't post some craptastic images like badaboom.

Whatever happened to President leading?

ZOMG the mean Republicans are blocking him. Like no other farkin Presiden ...


If only the President had a majority in both houses....
2012-09-25 04:53:33 PM  
1 vote:

Tommy Moo: A big chunk of the increased premiums is the money the government had to agree to hand to private sector insurers before they would allow enough of their servants in congress to pass health care reform.


[citation needed]

Especially considering that the healthcare industry objected to having to spend 85% of premiums on care. Medicare and Medicaid run at 2-3% overhead. Why can't private insurers run on 15%?
2012-09-25 04:26:32 PM  
1 vote:
It's rare that the troll density is so high.
2012-09-25 04:17:45 PM  
1 vote:

coeyagi: ghare: ferretman: [rlv.zcache.com image 400x400]

Well, it is. History has already judged that. If you ever get a woman to have sex with you and have children, their children will be bringing home textbooks that say how terrible Bush was. Because it's simply a fact: it was a historically bad presidency. I'm sorry that facts upset you so, but they aren't going away.

/I know, I know, your kids will get FOX textbooks which don't even mention Bush.

Further evidence: Bush is ranked 33rd best President by historians, Obama is currently ranked 14th.


Bush was as lame as I've lived through thus far.
Attacks on our soil. Natural disaster. Premeditated invasion of a sovern nation and war. Largest global protests of one human being in the history of mankind. National and global economy collapse. All handled like children playing games.

If we keep voting party before country this stuff will continue.
2012-09-25 04:15:53 PM  
1 vote:

Barbecue Bob: fark term limits


I am beginning to think we would be better off with single term limits, maybe increased to 6 years. That way they NEVER have to worry about reelection and campaigning and what their constituents think about their policies/comprimises. Just do the job you were elected to do.
2012-09-25 04:11:45 PM  
1 vote:
At least the GOP kept their promise of "Fark you, I got mine!"
2012-09-25 04:09:27 PM  
1 vote:
farm1.static.flickr.com

The alts are in full force today!
2012-09-25 04:04:15 PM  
1 vote:

MFL: coeyagi SmartestFunniest 2012-09-25 03:41:39 PM


jst3pObama fell short on many campaign promises. Luckily for him the right is running one of the worst campaigns I have ever seen.

MFL:To be fair...the media is running a much more effective campaign against Romney than Obama is.

jst3pYes, using Romney's words against him... the horror.

Of course they do....but only for him.

Obama could buttfark a chicken on live TV and they'd call Mitt Romney unpatriotic for being critical of it.


Hmmm, it is all the media's fault. If the liberal media decides who is elected how did we get stuck with Bush?
2012-09-25 04:00:20 PM  
1 vote:

DarwiOdrade: skullkrusher: DarwiOdrade: skullkrusher: DarwiOdrade: I'm gonna go with GOP obstructionism. Has anyone mentioned that yet?

yes, it is a very compelling reason to vote for the guy who can't get anything done apparently ;)

More a reason to vote out the obstructionists so he can get something done.

I would have accepted "more a reason to not vote for Mittens because he COULD get something done"

When it comes to Mitt, it's not whether he could get anything done, it's what he would get done that's the problem.


This, if I am struggling to swim and the guy next to me wants to help but is being held back by another guy I don't want to replace the first guy with the second guys friend who wants to push me under.


/or something
//wow that is a tortured analogy.
2012-09-25 04:00:17 PM  
1 vote:
Like we don't know why it happened..........jerk.
2012-09-25 03:58:54 PM  
1 vote:

ferretman: [rlv.zcache.com image 400x400]


badaboom, ferrettman and Brick-House doing Freeper image copypasta in rapidfire succession.

Something something one ALT to guide them and in the derpness bind them something....
2012-09-25 03:51:25 PM  
1 vote:

MFL: jst3p
Obama fell short on many campaign promises. Luckily for him the right is running one of the worst campaigns I have ever seen.

To be fair...the media is running a much more effective campaign against Romney than Obama is.



Romney is running a much more effetive campaign against Romney than the media is.
2012-09-25 03:41:39 PM  
1 vote:

MFL: jst3p
Obama fell short on many campaign promises. Luckily for him the right is running one of the worst campaigns I have ever seen.

To be fair...the media is running a much more effective campaign against Romney than Obama is.


Yes, using Romney's words against him... the horror.

//FYI, Farkers, running the "liberal media bias" argument is like a 5th grader in Arkansas writing a term paper that George W. Bush's motives for invading Iraq were to get WMDs. It's tired, it's tarnished, it's tarded.
2012-09-25 03:38:28 PM  
1 vote:

coeyagi: I will not RTFA, but is this a promise or a projection? I mean, the right is notorious for claiming the 8% unemployment projection was actually a promise.


It's based on this speech segment dated February 27 2008, in which Obama mentions his health care plan which includes things like everybody having "the same healthcare as members of Congress" and (presumably the government) "negotiating with drug companies for the cheapest available prices".

I'd have to see more specifics to be certain, but I don't think that was quite the plan that Congress passed in the end.
MFL
2012-09-25 03:37:37 PM  
1 vote:
jst3p
Obama fell short on many campaign promises. Luckily for him the right is running one of the worst campaigns I have ever seen.

To be fair...the media is running a much more effective campaign against Romney than Obama is.
2012-09-25 03:35:33 PM  
1 vote:

cameroncrazy1984: MyRandomName: Confabulat: Republicans throwing hissy fits and screaming SOCIALISM every time he tried to do anything, were you not paying attention?

So you are saying aca was not passed?

After a year of dealing with Republican filibusters, and finally having to use reconciliation.


And being watered down to get the Republicans-masquerading-as-Democrats on board.
2012-09-25 03:34:01 PM  
1 vote:

cameroncrazy1984: cman: Cythraul: Heh, at this point, my vote for Obama has less to do with his undelivered promises and more to do with just how much farking worse it'd be with Romney. It's not a pleasant decision. But that's where we've come to as a country, it seems.

Join me and throw your vote away for someone else. fark both of em.

You do know that by voting for Gary Johnson, you're just helping the incumbent. I appreciate your support. Would you like a bumper sticker?


nope. If I lived in a swing state, I'd be voting for BO.
2012-09-25 03:32:40 PM  
1 vote:

badaboom: Mrtraveler01: badaboom: badaboom: [encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 225x225]

[fullmetalpatriotblog.com image 636x360]

If this is the best the right-wing trolls can do, then Romney is screwed come November.

I didn't come up with Obama's main running point, he did.


Actually, Mitch McConnell inadvertantly did.
2012-09-25 03:32:26 PM  
1 vote:

Arkanaut: Or Israel's policy of government-mandated healthcare price controls, which Mitt Romney endorsed during his trip there?


I'm surprised Mitt took Bibi's cock out of his mouth long enough to endorse anything.

Obama was not going to get the public option through the Senate, period. That was the one provision that would have had a real effect on health insurance inflation.

Obamacare is the best legislation that could have been passed at the time. Single payer would have been the best option (IMHO), but I wasn't willing to let the healthcare system completely collapse to get us there.
2012-09-25 03:32:04 PM  
1 vote:

badaboom: [encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 225x225]


This is all you got. Derpitudes of herp, no real discussion about how the GOP said they would go "full in" to stop Obama on 1/20/09.
2012-09-25 03:30:54 PM  
1 vote:

jjorsett: The sun was in my eyes, the ball took a bad bounce, the refs hate me, the crowd was booing, the other team cheated, my knee was hurting, my teammates are incompetent. If you want an excuse for why things didn't get done or didn't happen the way he said they would, Obama's your man and the Democrats are your party.


I NO RITE IF 0BUMMA WANTED HELTH REFORM PAST HE SHUDA JUST PAST IT

The metaphor breaks down once you realize that Republicans do not see themselves as part of America's "team". They see themselves as one "team" and the Democrats as the opposing "team".

Instead of seeing themselves as the Darrelle Revises hand-checking the Demaryius Thomases, they should see themselves as the Randall Cobbses competing with the Jordy Nelsons and trying to get stats for themselves while also doing what they can to help the Packers win. Getting the stats/seats should come second to getting the W's (sensible policies - compromises, even - passed).

// you got sports in my politics!
// not a Jets, Packers or Broncs' fan
2012-09-25 03:29:32 PM  
1 vote:

badaboom: badaboom: [encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 225x225]

[fullmetalpatriotblog.com image 636x360]


If this is the best the right-wing trolls can do, then Romney is screwed come November.
2012-09-25 03:29:14 PM  
1 vote:

I_C_Weener: Confabulat: Republicans throwing hissy fits and screaming SOCIALISM every time he tried to do anything, were you not paying attention?

Wasn't it a promise based on the Affordable Care Act...which in fact...passed.  Years ago in fact.


Had the Affordable Care Act been introduced in February 2008?
2012-09-25 03:29:06 PM  
1 vote:
the terrorists murdered it because youtube.
2012-09-25 03:27:55 PM  
1 vote:
encrypted-tbn0.google.com
2012-09-25 03:27:15 PM  
1 vote:

MyRandomName: Bit liberals wanted to protect their malpractice lawyer industry. Funny that.


That is funny! I think that's the most desperate thing I've ever read from you.
DGS [TotalFark]
2012-09-25 03:26:29 PM  
1 vote:

I_C_Weener: Confabulat: Republicans throwing hissy fits and screaming SOCIALISM every time he tried to do anything, were you not paying attention?

Wasn't it a promise based on the Affordable Care Act...which in fact...passed.  Years ago in fact.


It's almost like it barely passed and even then after huge volumes of changes to water it down. Huh.
2012-09-25 03:25:24 PM  
1 vote:

jjorsett: The sun was in my eyes, the ball took a bad bounce, the refs hate me, the crowd was booing, the other team cheated, my knee was hurting, my teammates are incompetent. If you want an excuse for why things didn't get done or didn't happen the way he said they would, Obama's your man and the Democrats are your party.


We should vote Republican - the guys that actively worked against Obama doing things that would have helped Americans. Because Republicans are obviously good at their jobs.
2012-09-25 03:24:51 PM  
1 vote:

MyRandomName: Lol. So no democrats were against healthcare for all? It is like liberals live in alternate histories. There was a lot bad in aca. It wasn't only conservatives against it.


They still had over 51 votes for ACA. A majority of votes should be all that is needed to pass.
2012-09-25 03:24:08 PM  
1 vote:

Zeb Hesselgresser: No worries, I'm sure they'll start to drop precipitously when the elimination of annual and lifetime coverage caps, mandatory community rating bands and prohibition of the use of pre-existing conditions for underwriting provisions kick in. That should reign things in nicely.


Meanwhile if we had just stuck to the status quo like the GOP wanted us to. Premiums would lower by magic!
2012-09-25 03:23:39 PM  
1 vote:
What happened?

i51.tinypic.com
2012-09-25 03:23:32 PM  
1 vote:

jjorsett: The sun was in my eyes, the ball took a bad bounce, the refs hate me, the crowd was booing, the other team cheated, my knee was hurting, my teammates are incompetent. If you want an excuse for why things didn't get done or didn't happen the way he said they would, Obama's your man and the Democrats are your party.


Only history can judge....Oh, wait, that's what the war criminals in the last administration still cling to, right?
2012-09-25 03:23:31 PM  
1 vote:
The TeaTards happened.
2012-09-25 03:22:50 PM  
1 vote:

jjorsett: The sun was in my eyes, the ball took a bad bounce, the refs hate me, the crowd was booing, the other team cheated, my knee was hurting, my teammates are incompetent. If you want an excuse for why things didn't get done or didn't happen the way he said they would, Obama's your man and the Democrats are your party.


I really wish that he'd at least been able to take Osama Bin Laden, maybe get us out of Iraq...
2012-09-25 03:22:49 PM  
1 vote:

IlGreven: Politicians make bold statements about how they'd control private market costs all the time.

The private marketobstructionist GOP who would rather see the country suffer than have a black man in the WH pretty quickly makes sure to screw them over, every time.


FTFY
2012-09-25 03:22:31 PM  
1 vote:

jjorsett: The sun was in my eyes, the ball took a bad bounce, the refs hate me, the crowd was booing, the other team cheated, my knee was hurting, my teammates are incompetent. If you want an excuse for why things didn't get done or didn't happen the way he said they would, Obama's your man and the Democrats are your party.


You're saying that the Republicans didn't have anything to do with it? You're saying that the filibusters that have happened throughout the last several years haven't happened? Please prove that it was all on Obama. Thank you.
2012-09-25 03:19:48 PM  
1 vote:
Investor's Business Daily: for when the WSJ editorial page and NRO aren't derpy enough for you.
2012-09-25 03:18:22 PM  
1 vote:

EnviroDude: It probably went to the same place where he promised to cut the deficit in half rather than double it.


Really? He "doubled" the deficit? Keep in mind that 2009 would actually be BUSH'S budget...
Year_______Amount______________Adjusted for Inflation

2009__$1413 Billion Deficit________$1509.62 Billion Deficit

2010__$1294 Billion Deficit________$1360.67 Billion Deficit

2011__$1299 Billion Deficit________$1324.16 Billion Deficit

2012__$1100 Billion Deficit________$1100 Billion Deficit

See, I don't know how much math they covered in your 3rd grade classes, but 1,294, 1,299 and 1,100 are ALL less than 1,413, and NONE of them is "double".
Link
2012-09-25 03:13:59 PM  
1 vote:
Who cares? Pass the kool-aid. Mmm mmm mmm. Barak Hussein Obama
2012-09-25 03:08:50 PM  
1 vote:

jst3p: Obama fell short on many campaign promises.


I think that he's done as well as was physically possible. If you're taking an exam, some random idiot takes a diarrhoea dump right on your paper and eats your pencil, and you still manage to score 85%... That's still pretty damn good.
2012-09-25 02:58:20 PM  
1 vote:

I_C_Weener: Confabulat: Republicans throwing hissy fits and screaming SOCIALISM every time he tried to do anything, were you not paying attention?

Wasn't it a promise based on the Affordable Care Act...which in fact...passed.  Years ago in fact.


The majority of provisions don't go into effect till 2014. But you're just a disingenuous troll so there's that.
2012-09-25 02:56:28 PM  
1 vote:
This is insane, I don't recall premiums rising prior to Obama taking office.
2012-09-25 01:38:33 PM  
1 vote:

Confabulat: Republicans throwing hissy fits and screaming SOCIALISM every time he tried to do anything, were you not paying attention?


Wasn't it a promise based on the Affordable Care Act...which in fact...passed.  Years ago in fact.
2012-09-25 12:27:13 PM  
1 vote:

mysticcat: Let me summarize this thread:

Dems: bad things happen-Boo Republicans, good things happen- Yea Democrats

GOPers: bad things happen-Boo Democrats, good things happen- Yea Republicans

I really hate our polarized political process


It is a mistake to believe that other Democratic systems are not polarized, they just have more poles.

Furthermore, our political process has always been like this. Sure, at the moment what we lack are those few statesmen who could sit down with some whiskey and hammer out something in a back room that the junior legislators had to go by, but the US political process has only rarely not been polarized.
2012-09-25 12:21:15 PM  
1 vote:
The Freshman Congress and their sophomoric ideas.

www.realclearpolitics.com
2012-09-25 12:21:13 PM  
1 vote:

SlothB77: Obama made promises for the first term? What promises?


You know, it's not like you're new here. We know you've seen the list. Don't play dumb.
2012-09-25 11:46:53 AM  
1 vote:
So if what I am to gather from investors.com is that private for profit health insurance is too expensive?

Is their official stance being in support of single payer? Or are they supporting Mitt's "just go the the ER", or as the alternative would be, just die?
2012-09-25 11:37:17 AM  
1 vote:
He should be easy to beat in November then right? Right?
2012-09-25 11:05:16 AM  
1 vote:

cameroncrazy1984: cman: Cythraul: Heh, at this point, my vote for Obama has less to do with his undelivered promises and more to do with just how much farking worse it'd be with Romney. It's not a pleasant decision. But that's where we've come to as a country, it seems.

Join me and throw your vote away for someone else. fark both of em.

You do know that by voting for Gary Johnson, you're just helping the incumbent. I appreciate your support. Would you like a bumper sticker?


Be that as it may, at least I wont be walking out of the polling station pissed off
2012-09-25 10:50:25 AM  
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cman: Cythraul: Heh, at this point, my vote for Obama has less to do with his undelivered promises and more to do with just how much farking worse it'd be with Romney. It's not a pleasant decision. But that's where we've come to as a country, it seems.

Join me and throw your vote away for someone else. fark both of em.


You do know that by voting for Gary Johnson, you're just helping the incumbent. I appreciate your support. Would you like a bumper sticker?
2012-09-25 10:49:11 AM  
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EnviroDude: It probably went to the same place where he promised to cut the deficit in half rather than double it.


How does going from 1.29T to 1.32T "double" ?

Or are you one of those people who thinks FY2009 didn't start in October of 08?
2012-09-25 10:09:44 AM  
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Heh, at this point, my vote for Obama has less to do with his undelivered promises and more to do with just how much farking worse it'd be with Romney. It's not a pleasant decision. But that's where we've come to as a country, it seems.
 
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