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(CNN)   Columnist says Nazi hunting is still a worthy pursuit, mostly because you can just go to a German graveyard, point at some random graves from the 1940s, yell "FOUND 'EM", and spend the rest of the day drinking   (cnn.com) divider line 260
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2012-09-25 08:43:34 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: How do "ordinary people" get roped in to doing horrible things?

Easy Google
Miligram Experiment
Sanford Prison Experiment

If you are (1) unfortunate enough to be presented with the opportunity to be an asshole plus (2) sadistic or weak-minded enough to participate, then sucks to be you, I suppose. Take your punishment.

The problem is that by nature the majority of human beings fall into (2). We clearly have some evolving to do, fellow humans.


We can choose to be better. We are frequently educated not to be.
 
2012-09-25 08:45:46 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Subtle_Canary: Um yeah, they did. Once the war got into full swing and Germany's man power started feeling the pinch, the SS tended to conscript able bodied men to bolster its ranks (remember, the SS took retarded casualties on the Eastern Front. Fanatical loyalty combined with poor training tends to eat up manpower), The Auxillary SS that tended to be guards at camps were conscripts. Hell by 1944, most of the SS werent even German and of THOSE guys you had a better chance of finding some conscripted schlub with a beef against Stalin or whatever than any national socialist.

I'm sorry but as a soldier I'm not buying the "I was following orders" excuse


You would, if you had been a German soldier under the command of the Third Reich and controlled by the SS. Your application of your American sensibility that you are bound only to follow lawful orders would have resulted in your having been summarily shot and your family sent to the concentration camp in 1942. Don't be so smug about things you have never experienced. The enlisted soldiers of Nazi Germany, who grudgingly followed their orders, should not be held accountable for the orders of their superiors.
 
2012-09-25 08:46:31 AM

cptjeff: Can you prove that in the case of every individual soldier? Or are you assuming that (see Subtle_Canary's post)? Because I'm pretty sure it's the latter, and that's not a legitimate prosecution, that's a witch hunt.


I was more using the link that was on the main page yesterday as an example. I didn't see his/her post.
 
2012-09-25 08:50:27 AM

JackieRabbit: You would, if you had been a German soldier under the command of the Third Reich and controlled by the SS. Your application of your American sensibility that you are bound only to follow lawful orders would have resulted in your having been summarily shot and your family sent to the concentration camp in 1942. Don't be so smug about things you have never experienced. The enlisted soldiers of Nazi Germany, who grudgingly followed their orders, should not be held accountable for the orders of their superiors.


Look, I was stationed in Germany for two years and I spoke with a lot of Germans who had grandfathers who were forced to fight. There is a huge difference between being forced to fight in the war and supposedly forced to guard a concentration camp. Being forced to fight on the Eastern front is way different than being an armed guard at a camp that's sole purpose was mass murder. They wouldn't just put some common foot soldier on that post, they were smarter than that. Too much to risk if you put someone not committed at that post.
 
2012-09-25 08:50:59 AM
Hogan?
 
2012-09-25 08:53:59 AM

harbingerofdoom: i stopped reading when he tossed out the phrase "righteous gentile"


As someone of Jewish heritage I found that offensive. Yes, let's classify people by their "ethnicity"... that *always* works out for the best. The author is an asshole.
 
2012-09-25 08:54:44 AM

G.I.R.B.: Deep Contact: Wonder if they are still looking for Hitler?

He died in 1958 silly!


No, Hitler dies in Argentina in 1962.

No, really.
 
2012-09-25 08:55:38 AM

JackieRabbit: Where's the Dumbass tag when you need it. Any surviving Nazi war criminals would be between 90 and 110 years old. There cannot be more than a handful of them left. What purpose does it serve at this point to hunt them down and prosecute them. It's a rhetorical question, since the answer is none.

Of course, the object of the FA is not a columnist, but Dr. Efraim Zuroff, a Nazi hunter with the Israeli office of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. He has a vested interest ($$) in continuing to hunt down Nazis.

WWII ended 67 years ago and the Nazis have been brought to justice. It's time for the Jewish people to stop looking at themselves as victims. They have other, much more important problems to concentrate on.


People everywhere tend to react badly when their parents and grandparents are murdered. Hell, George W Bush even invaded Iraq partly because Saddam Hussein *tried* to kill his father. But thank you for the lesson in morality.
 
2012-09-25 08:55:58 AM
www.deutschmusikland.com
Approves.
 
2012-09-25 08:57:52 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Subtle_Canary: Um yeah, they did. Once the war got into full swing and Germany's man power started feeling the pinch, the SS tended to conscript able bodied men to bolster its ranks (remember, the SS took retarded casualties on the Eastern Front. Fanatical loyalty combined with poor training tends to eat up manpower), The Auxillary SS that tended to be guards at camps were conscripts. Hell by 1944, most of the SS werent even German and of THOSE guys you had a better chance of finding some conscripted schlub with a beef against Stalin or whatever than any national socialist.

I'm sorry but as a soldier I'm not buying the "I was following orders" excuse


Then you are a fool. If 15 years from now the Iraq War is deemed an illegal war of occupation and the administration and, more importantly, the ALL VOLUNTEER FORCES THAT OCCUPIED IT, are all brought on charges, you gonna say you refused to go? No, because you didnt, you went overseas just like everyone else does, did your duty and came home expecting that as the winner that kind of shiat dont affect you.
 
2012-09-25 08:59:55 AM
He cites the case of Ivan (John) Demjanjuk. FFS, he was found not guilty by the Israelis, then tried as a supposedly completely different guard in Germany.

Seems awful fishy.
 
2012-09-25 09:02:36 AM

Subtle_Canary: Then you are a fool. If 15 years from now the Iraq War is deemed an illegal war of occupation and the administration and, more importantly, the ALL VOLUNTEER FORCES THAT OCCUPIED IT, are all brought on charges, you gonna say you refused to go? No, because you didnt, you went overseas just like everyone else does, did your duty and came home expecting that as the winner that kind of shiat dont affect you.


If you can't differentiate between a Holocaust and a ground war, I don't know what to tell you
 
2012-09-25 09:04:29 AM
I agree with everyone, it's time to let it go. These guys may have stood by and let people die but so have a ton of other people who are still out there and can be brought to justice more practically than a bunch of 90 year olds. The article writer is just an over zealous Jew.
 
2012-09-25 09:08:40 AM

Phinn: G.I.R.B.: Deep Contact: Wonder if they are still looking for Hitler?

He died in 1958 silly!

No, Hitler dies in Argentina in 1962.

No, really.


So they would like you to think. I heard he's working at the Kalamazoo Burger King.
 
2012-09-25 09:09:58 AM

Tat'dGreaser: JackieRabbit: You would, if you had been a German soldier under the command of the Third Reich and controlled by the SS. Your application of your American sensibility that you are bound only to follow lawful orders would have resulted in your having been summarily shot and your family sent to the concentration camp in 1942. Don't be so smug about things you have never experienced. The enlisted soldiers of Nazi Germany, who grudgingly followed their orders, should not be held accountable for the orders of their superiors.

Look, I was stationed in Germany for two years and I spoke with a lot of Germans who had grandfathers who were forced to fight. There is a huge difference between being forced to fight in the war and supposedly forced to guard a concentration camp. Being forced to fight on the Eastern front is way different than being an armed guard at a camp that's sole purpose was mass murder. They wouldn't just put some common foot soldier on that post, they were smarter than that. Too much to risk if you put someone not committed at that post.


Oh, yes, the would and they did. No one wanted to work in the concentration camps, not even most of the officers. It wasn't cushy duty; it was rather horrific. You spoke to Germans whose grandfathers fought in the war. I have spoken to actual German soldiers who fought in the war. Serving in the German military was not a pleasant experience for anyone. Serving under the control of the SS was to live in constant fear. One mistake, one suspicious association, one seemingly harmless remark could result in execution or, worse, been sent to a concentration camp yourself.
 
2012-09-25 09:11:51 AM
Hunting Nazis can be tough. There's the old stereotype that you can't find a single ex-Nazi or someone who had Nazis for relatives in Germany/Austria. To talk to Germans you'd think the Nazi party consisted entirely of Hitler and maybe three other guys.

We had an Austrian engineer working with us as a consultant years ago. Nice guy, very smart. Talked about how his father was a tank commander in WWII but he WASN'T a Nazi. Later showed us a picture of his father in his tank...

... wearing a SS uniform.
 
2012-09-25 09:11:52 AM

tender: robert44

I find it amazing of the 60 million people who died in WWII
and all i hear is 6million Jews ,its just typical that there is such hype to remember the Holocaust, so we should forget the other 52m
what about the Russians and the polish community suffered for decades when they were sold
out by the allies, how about the Horrific carpet bombing over Germany all those defenseless
people randomly bombed in late 1945..

Oh my.


I'm reminded of the old joke;

"When I take over i'm going to slaughter 6 million Jews and one Clown!"

"Why the Clown?'

"Do you see! No one ever remembers the Jews!"
 
2012-09-25 09:19:18 AM

Tat'dGreaser: JackieRabbit: You would, if you had been a German soldier under the command of the Third Reich and controlled by the SS. Your application of your American sensibility that you are bound only to follow lawful orders would have resulted in your having been summarily shot and your family sent to the concentration camp in 1942. Don't be so smug about things you have never experienced. The enlisted soldiers of Nazi Germany, who grudgingly followed their orders, should not be held accountable for the orders of their superiors.

Look, I was stationed in Germany for two years and I spoke with a lot of Germans who had grandfathers who were forced to fight. There is a huge difference between being forced to fight in the war and supposedly forced to guard a concentration camp. Being forced to fight on the Eastern front is way different than being an armed guard at a camp that's sole purpose was mass murder. They wouldn't just put some common foot soldier on that post, they were smarter than that. Too much to risk if you put someone not committed at that post.


Goal posts. You're moving them.
 
2012-09-25 09:23:57 AM

Tat'dGreaser: If you can't differentiate between a Holocaust and a ground war, I don't know what to tell you


Except there was more than a ground war, there was also systematic torture of suspects, siding with the Shi'a in the ethnic cleansing of significant areas of several major cities (aka "The Surge"), etc. If you think the Iraq War/occupation was clean of any wrong doing that just might come back and haunt some people, if the US superpower status is lost sometime down the road and the US can no longer hold itself outside international law, then you probably think Saddam was behind 9/11.

Anything like the Holocaust? Of course not, but the Holocaust isn't considered the minimum level to count as a war crime.
 
2012-09-25 09:25:46 AM
Sorry, but if you're claiming to be an instrument of justice, and ignore all other the war criminals who have committed their crimes only a few years ago and a few hundred miles away, so you can exclusively find war criminals who live thousands of miles away and committed their crimes against one particular race, your race, then you are in reality only an instrument of revenge. That isn't a noble cause, no matter what story you tell yourself.
 
2012-09-25 09:34:58 AM
Anyone who knowingly and willing participates in an atrocity like the Holocaust deserves to be pursued to the ends of the Earth until they drop dead. They should get due process -- a soldier who merely guarded the gate of Auschwitz should be punished less severely than, say, Himmler -- but they should not get a pass because of old age, and their shame should outlive them.

That said, in five years, ten at the very most, this will be an academic argument as far as the Third Reich is concerned.
 
2012-09-25 09:38:44 AM
Anyone here ever visted afghan mass graves dot org?
Because that is a fairly interesting site.
 
2012-09-25 09:40:49 AM

Phinn: G.I.R.B.: Deep Contact: Wonder if they are still looking for Hitler?

He died in 1958 silly!

No, Hitler dies in Argentina in 1962.

No, really.


I heard he lived in Indonesia after the war with Eva. The real story how he escaped the bunker would be cool to know.
The made up story that everyone in the bunker stuck to just shows how loyal they were to him to the end.
 
2012-09-25 09:52:22 AM
Sheesh.
C'mon, man, get over it already. It was, like, years ago.
 
2012-09-25 09:57:38 AM
cdn.thegloss.com

Found one!
 
2012-09-25 09:59:08 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Subtle_Canary: Um yeah, they did. Once the war got into full swing and Germany's man power started feeling the pinch, the SS tended to conscript able bodied men to bolster its ranks (remember, the SS took retarded casualties on the Eastern Front. Fanatical loyalty combined with poor training tends to eat up manpower), The Auxillary SS that tended to be guards at camps were conscripts. Hell by 1944, most of the SS werent even German and of THOSE guys you had a better chance of finding some conscripted schlub with a beef against Stalin or whatever than any national socialist.

I'm sorry but as a soldier I'm not buying the "I was following orders" excuse


Just hope nothing you did yesterday becomes a war crime in 50 years.
 
2012-09-25 10:02:17 AM
There = a location
Their = indicates possession
They're = They + are

Rampant misuse this morning.

/needs more coffee
 
2012-09-25 10:04:00 AM

Broktun: [cdn.thegloss.com image 560x375]

Found one!

There is a large difference between a kid working in an AAA unit and an actual war criminal.
 
2012-09-25 10:05:56 AM

This text is now purple: Tat'dGreaser: Subtle_Canary: Um yeah, they did. Once the war got into full swing and Germany's man power started feeling the pinch, the SS tended to conscript able bodied men to bolster its ranks (remember, the SS took retarded casualties on the Eastern Front. Fanatical loyalty combined with poor training tends to eat up manpower), The Auxillary SS that tended to be guards at camps were conscripts. Hell by 1944, most of the SS werent even German and of THOSE guys you had a better chance of finding some conscripted schlub with a beef against Stalin or whatever than any national socialist.

I'm sorry but as a soldier I'm not buying the "I was following orders" excuse

Just hope nothing you did yesterday becomes a war crime in 50 years.


It is not that people are just deciding some 60 years later that what the Nazis did constituted a war crime. That determination was made in 1946.
 
2012-09-25 10:06:27 AM

cptjeff: Tat'dGreaser: cptjeff: Bullshait. I'm sorry, but you're never going to convince me that prosecuting people who would have been shot if they refused is in any way just or appropriate

I just got done explaining to you that these were not normal soldiers. They have been going after SS guards. These are the guys who enjoyed their jobs.

Can you prove that in the case of every individual soldier? Or are you assuming that (see Subtle_Canary's post)? Because I'm pretty sure it's the latter, and that's not a legitimate prosecution, that's a witch hunt.


If they were members of the SS, it stands to reason they knew what the SS was.

It's only a "witch hunt" if you're comparing it to 3 crones huddled over a bubbling cauldron (with a nearby book on spells and witchcraft and a well-stocked pantry of eye of newt, toe of frog, etc) being called witches.
 
2012-09-25 10:07:31 AM
"Reaching the age of 85 or 90 does not turn a mass murderer into a Righteous Gentile."

(emphasis mine)

Oh. I see. This is religious.
 
2012-09-25 10:07:51 AM

vudukungfu: Anyone here ever visted afghan mass graves dot org?
Because that is a fairly interesting site.


Just did. Thanks for the heads up.
 
2012-09-25 10:08:10 AM
If your job is Chief Nazi Hunter, then I suppose it is.

I have a hammer and you are looking like a nail.
 
2012-09-25 10:08:46 AM

MAYORBOB: casual disregard: Tat'dGreaser: casual disregard: We said never again. And then we almost immediately turned our backs and let it happen again. And again. And again.

Cambodia. Darfur. Syria. Somalia. Etc.

Perhaps what we meant was "never again will we lift one finger against outrageous atrocities."

Question, how do you think we should have stopped those from happening?

For all our comforts and our freedoms, we do nothing while people die. If I had a good idea to help the people of Syria, I would tell you. I wish I knew what to do. That will not stop me from hating murderers.

It's simple really, kill all the bad people.


Ahh, yes. Killing in the name of peace.
 
2012-09-25 10:11:27 AM
Armenians envy how the jews have managed to commodify and sell thier brand of persecution to the rest of the world.

Seriously, take your self-righteous, hippocritical arguments and shove them up your ass. You don't care about genocide unless it was the jews who were affected. And no, your suffering was not the worst in the world. The goverment of Israel gave political support to the Turkish denial of the Armenian genocide by lobbying congress on thier behalf through AIPAC (back before the gaza flotilla incident).

Go fark yourself, Israel.
 
2012-09-25 10:11:34 AM

Tat'dGreaser: cptjeff: I think you're seeing people reacting to the massive manhunt for the low level guys who were never really that significant to the Nazi party when they're 90 years old. It does absolutely no good for anybody, I think is the point.

Significant or not to them, an SS guard at a concentration camp is just as responsible as the person who pulled the trigger. These are not common Bundeswehr soldiers we're talking about, these are SS. No one just joined their ranks without being completely indoctrinated with the idea of exterminating certain groups of people.

Growing old is not a valid defense against what they did.


But at some point the evidence against them is, well, thin.

We may know that Sturmmann Fritz Oberweeble was assigned to Auschwitz, but without some particularized evidence that points to them actually, you know, doing something other than shining the commandants boots or the like, then seems to me that prosecuting them is problematic. Yes, we don't have a statute of limitations on horrific crimes, but we also don't believe in collective punishment, and that a conviction should be because the person has been found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Just being in the vicinity of a massive crime against humanity isn't enough.

If you find someone that you specific evidence that they acted in a manner contrary to the laws of war, by all means prosecute them. If all you got was "he was within a mile and a half of the gas chambers when this happened", and you don't have any evidence he interacted with any of the people kept or killed there, then that's an awful lot of reasonable doubt that he committed an actual crime, other than being a Nazi.
 
2012-09-25 10:12:05 AM

This text is now purple: Tat'dGreaser: Subtle_Canary: Um yeah, they did. Once the war got into full swing and Germany's man power started feeling the pinch, the SS tended to conscript able bodied men to bolster its ranks (remember, the SS took retarded casualties on the Eastern Front. Fanatical loyalty combined with poor training tends to eat up manpower), The Auxillary SS that tended to be guards at camps were conscripts. Hell by 1944, most of the SS werent even German and of THOSE guys you had a better chance of finding some conscripted schlub with a beef against Stalin or whatever than any national socialist.

I'm sorry but as a soldier I'm not buying the "I was following orders" excuse

Just hope nothing you did yesterday becomes a war crime in 50 years.


"In 50 years?" You do know that the initial war crimes trials started the year the war ended, right?

There's a reason that the Wannsee Conference and all related Nazi policies used euphemisms and never directly said "KILL THOSE JEWS." They knew what they were doing could result in their prosecution after the war.
 
2012-09-25 10:13:01 AM

Snort: If your job is Chief Nazi Hunter, then I suppose it is.

I have a hammer and you are in a bag full of nails and looking like a nail.

 
2012-09-25 10:14:09 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Sorry, but if you're claiming to be an instrument of justice, and ignore all other the war criminals who have committed their crimes only a few years ago and a few hundred miles away, so you can exclusively find war criminals who live thousands of miles away and committed their crimes against one particular race, your race, then you are in reality only an instrument of revenge. That isn't a noble cause, no matter what story you tell yourself.



The man is an instrument of justice. His focus is on Nazi War Criminals. The organization that he works for has devoted itself to tracking down Nazi War Criminals since WWII ended. Just because you think he should branch out makes no difference at all.

Your notion that he is an instrument of revenge is ignorant. The people he chases were responsible for horrendous crimes. The fact that he is Jewish has no impact on the nobility of his work. Would you think it was a noble cause if the guy was a Lutheran?
 
2012-09-25 10:14:43 AM
my biggest problem at this point is that a lot of the evidence is getting more and more thin. with age, its harder to identify them from old time photos, DNA wasn't a thing back then and eyewitness testimony is unreliable minutes after a crime (let alone decades.) Getting the ringleaders and major players is important, but i don't want to see someone prosecuted in their twilight years because of half remembered faces and old documentation saying they worked at a death camp- and then have it turn out they were assigned to the motor pool, or the chow line or even that the document was just wrong (especially in the cases later in the war when the germans efficient systems started to break down)
 
2012-09-25 10:15:23 AM

loki see loki do: He cites the case of Ivan (John) Demjanjuk. FFS, he was found not guilty by the Israelis, then tried as a supposedly completely different guard in Germany.

Seems awful fishy.


Incorrect. He was convicted, but his conviction was overturned by the Israeli Supreme Court.
 
2012-09-25 10:16:52 AM

wedun: Armenians envy how the jews have managed to commodify and sell thier brand of persecution to the rest of the world.

Seriously, take your self-righteous, hippocritical arguments and shove them up your ass. You don't care about genocide unless it was the jews who were affected. And no, your suffering was not the worst in the world. The goverment of Israel gave political support to the Turkish denial of the Armenian genocide by lobbying congress on thier behalf through AIPAC (back before the gaza flotilla incident).

Go fark yourself, Israel.


so go get yourself a PR firm and then STFU.

You want to focus on the Armenian genocide and condemn Jews for focusing on their own. Seems you are just as bad as you think that they are,
 
2012-09-25 10:20:15 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Not really doing themselves any favors with arresting invalids that have a few painful years at most left on the planet.


The problem is people still demand accountability for these kinds of crimes. Punishment must be metered out.
If the western allies caught these guys in their day, they would likely have had a sack thrown over their heads and been dumped in the nearest river.
Taking them to court seems respectful enough, considering their age.

I shudder to think what the Russians did to the ones they found.
I suspect many got a short trial followed by being gunned down in a snow covered field somewhere.

/Obviously some exceptions for those with technical skills.
/But the end result could still vary wildly between east and west.
/Like "Picnicking in Florida" VS "Dying in a Siberian Gulag" different.
 
2012-09-25 10:21:18 AM
The government of Armenia does not, as part of its policy, support denial of the Holocaust for no other reason than self-interest.

Israel, on the other hand, assisted Turkey in maintaining thier position that there was no Armenian Genocide because they didn't want to upset "thier only muslim ally".

Both sides are not the same.

/idiot
 
2012-09-25 10:22:23 AM

MAYORBOB: casual disregard: Tat'dGreaser: casual disregard: We said never again. And then we almost immediately turned our backs and let it happen again. And again. And again.

Cambodia. Darfur. Syria. Somalia. Etc.

Perhaps what we meant was "never again will we lift one finger against outrageous atrocities."

Question, how do you think we should have stopped those from happening?

For all our comforts and our freedoms, we do nothing while people die. If I had a good idea to help the people of Syria, I would tell you. I wish I knew what to do. That will not stop me from hating murderers.

It's simple really, kill all the bad people.


And Bad = Not My People
 
2012-09-25 10:22:39 AM
lh6.googleusercontent.com
Enjoys killin' nahtzies.
 
2012-09-25 10:23:41 AM
So.. once they are all dead, and their children are all dead...what will you do, nights? What will do you?
 
2012-09-25 10:24:29 AM

dittybopper: Tat'dGreaser: cptjeff: I think you're seeing people reacting to the massive manhunt for the low level guys who were never really that significant to the Nazi party when they're 90 years old. It does absolutely no good for anybody, I think is the point.

Significant or not to them, an SS guard at a concentration camp is just as responsible as the person who pulled the trigger. These are not common Bundeswehr soldiers we're talking about, these are SS. No one just joined their ranks without being completely indoctrinated with the idea of exterminating certain groups of people.

Growing old is not a valid defense against what they did.

But at some point the evidence against them is, well, thin.

We may know that Sturmmann Fritz Oberweeble was assigned to Auschwitz, but without some particularized evidence that points to them actually, you know, doing something other than shining the commandants boots or the like, then seems to me that prosecuting them is problematic. Yes, we don't have a statute of limitations on horrific crimes, but we also don't believe in collective punishment, and that a conviction should be because the person has been found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Just being in the vicinity of a massive crime against humanity isn't enough.

If you find someone that you specific evidence that they acted in a manner contrary to the laws of war, by all means prosecute them. If all you got was "he was within a mile and a half of the gas chambers when this happened", and you don't have any evidence he interacted with any of the people kept or killed there, then that's an awful lot of reasonable doubt that he committed an actual crime, other than being a Nazi.


I would suggest that you read a few books on the subject of death camps. The members of the SS who worked at the camp were complicit in actual crimes. They are participated in the activities. Even the guy working in the infirmary was committing crimes. A man working on a guard tower one day might be working at the gas chambers the next.
 
2012-09-25 10:28:11 AM
I see chuckufarlie white knighting for collective punishment. Not a big suprise. hey! it looks like those palestinians really want to be treated like human beings, maybe you should bomb them with white phosphorus again.
 
2012-09-25 10:28:25 AM

tlchwi02: my biggest problem at this point is that a lot of the evidence is getting more and more thin. with age, its harder to identify them from old time photos, DNA wasn't a thing back then and eyewitness testimony is unreliable minutes after a crime (let alone decades.) Getting the ringleaders and major players is important, but i don't want to see someone prosecuted in their twilight years because of half remembered faces and old documentation saying they worked at a death camp- and then have it turn out they were assigned to the motor pool, or the chow line or even that the document was just wrong (especially in the cases later in the war when the germans efficient systems started to break down)


SS members did not work on the chow line, in the motor pool are any such work. Their focus was killing inmates. As for your idea that the efficiency of the German system broke down, read a book. The efficiency of German record keeping did not break down until the last months of the war. By that time, the death camps were no longer operating.
 
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