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(LA Times)   Trying to bust weapons smugglers? In a movie, you could take them to a club in Manila and drop some cash on drinks and underage girls for all of you. Unfortunately, movies are a lot cooler than FBI reality   (latimes.com) divider line 22
    More: Dumbass, underage girls, FBI, Manila, grenade launcher, smuggling, United States Attorney, underage, U.S. Department of Justice  
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2012-09-25 05:09:36 AM
Look, you have to break laws to catch people who break laws. It's science. It's only bad when criminals break the law, because when LEOs do it, it is for the public good and therefore it's not REALLY breaking the law. Not like the people they're trying to catch, anyway. They break the law for no good reason at all!
 
2012-09-25 05:24:23 AM
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/excited
 
2012-09-25 05:25:00 AM
Wouldn't you also break the law for them?

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No need to thank me, I'm sure it's hard typing with just one hand.
 
2012-09-25 05:34:56 AM
AirForce One......the club that is...that is all!
 
2012-09-25 05:52:06 AM
I expected them to be investigating the BATFE.
 
2012-09-25 05:53:02 AM
I thought the FBI was basically a domestic operation. What are they doing in the Phillipines?

I can't wait to hear what the name of this operation was, considering the BATF's use of "Fast & Furious".
 
2012-09-25 06:32:31 AM
I cannot imagine how it would be even possible to spend that much money in a Manila club. Drinks are essentially free and girls go for about $75 a night. (or so I have heard)
 
2012-09-25 07:08:12 AM
Separate issues. If this FBI agent boinked a teenager, put him in jail too. But it doesn't change that your client was running illegal weapons, Chuck. It's only a defense if the actual act of the agent breaking the law is what entrapped your client into committing the crime in the first place. Here he was just breaking a law in order to fit in and not blow his cover.
 
2012-09-25 07:40:18 AM
alphabet agency operatives do what they have to do. this should never appear in print. you can't handle the truth!
 
2012-09-25 08:29:20 AM
In the defense of the movies, most of the characters didn't fill out an expense sheet for it.
 
2012-09-25 08:48:59 AM
Silly subby, the FBI doesn't bust weapons smugglers... they are all on the government payroll under ATF.
 
2012-09-25 09:02:29 AM

ex-nuke: I expected them to be investigating the BATFE.


This.
Although I'm sure they do worse than these guys before breakfast.

untaken_name: Look, you have to break laws to catch people who break laws.


This would be a contender for Poe's law under some circumstances.
I honestly believe that to catch higher caliber lawbreakers you sometimes have to break the rules, But there's got to be a moral limit.
Lies, trickery, and paying crooks to catch mass murderers and drug lords is ok.
Killing people over check fraud and gunsmithing crimes is probably out.

/Paying for your own teenage prostitute with federal money to catch a few wannabes smuggling weapons into a country that isn't the US?
/Yea, no ones gonna question that...
 
2012-09-25 09:04:52 AM

way south:

/Paying for your own teenage prostitute with federal money to catch a few wannabes smuggling weapons into a country that isn't the US?


NVM the last bit, should have read to the bottom of the article.
 
2012-09-25 09:26:43 AM
I'm very surprised this operation wasn't funded with slush money and how the defense was allowed access to this information.
 
2012-09-25 10:00:37 AM
Can't blame him. I can't tell Asian ages to save my life. Let's prove it the old-fashioned way.

How old do you think she is?

You put her between 17 and 22, right?
/she is 32
 
2012-09-25 10:01:46 AM
dammit so much
Link
 
2012-09-25 10:50:26 AM

Medic Zero: I thought the FBI was basically a domestic operation. What are they doing in the Phillipines?

I can't wait to hear what the name of this operation was, considering the BATF's use of "Fast & Furious".


It's domestic whenever you "play house", hence the hookers were necessary.
 
2012-09-25 10:52:52 AM

KrispyKritter: alphabet agency operatives do what they have to do. this should never appear in print. you can't handle the truth!


I for one applaud our brave men and women in disguise Guarding That Wall against bad karaoke versions of "My Way" in foreign lands.
 
2012-09-25 11:38:16 AM
I lived in Manila for a year.

You would need WEEKS to spend that much on hookers n booze.
less than 100 will cover you for anything you need for the night.
 
2012-09-25 01:55:41 PM
Where are all of the CSB's about time spent in Manila with hookers and booze?
 
2012-09-26 01:19:26 AM

way south: I honestly believe that to catch higher caliber lawbreakers you sometimes have to break the rules,


If the people in charge with enforcing the rules can break them, by what logical reason should the rest of us be held to them? Obviously, the rules can be broken without ill intent, so why only by people who are tasked with ENFORCING them?
 
2012-09-26 09:34:16 AM

untaken_name: way south: I honestly believe that to catch higher caliber lawbreakers you sometimes have to break the rules,

If the people in charge with enforcing the rules can break them, by what logical reason should the rest of us be held to them? Obviously, the rules can be broken without ill intent, so why only by people who are tasked with ENFORCING them?


Average people can and often do break the rules to achieve justice (Justified homicide, justified theft, etc...) but it ends in controversy because they usually aren't very good at being accountable for their actions.

I've been all about 2nd amendment solutions on Fark, but I also recognize the dangers of vigilantism.
The difference between a Trayvon Martin incident and an everyday "police shoot suspect, get paid vacation" incident is the fact that cops are trained and ordered to do the mission of law enforcement. They've got people paid to second guess them, and they know how to explain their actions in court.

People hold Cops to a different standard than some random guy who walks out his house and says "Today, I am the farking BATMAN!"

/"...nananana, nananana, Batman!!".
 
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