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(New Musical Express)   "I no longer believe that 9/11 was an inside job," says Matt Bellamy of Muse, who apparently was f*cking insane this whole time   (nme.com) divider line 21
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2012-09-24 05:22:43 PM
3 votes:

Because People in power are Stupid: [img.photobucket.com image 735x430]

Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy.


You're right. One of the most incompetent administrations in the history of the United States had the cunning knowledge of the exact time, date, and method that a foreign national group would use to murder tens of thousands of United States civilians, and purposefully did nothing to increase their profit margins. And they did so without any one person having any evidence or knowledge of this, and ignoring the common tenants of human decency and the perchance of ANY large conspiracy of this size to be blown out to the media by those who exhibit it..

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2012-09-24 11:17:18 PM
2 votes:

schubie: I like how everyone says the government is too incompetent to pull something off like 9/11 but believe that they solved the whole thing in time for the evening news. They found the hijacker's perfectly singed passports that day. They'd announced the motive, the means, the perpetrators and the reasons the buildings failed in 12 hours. It was amazing to see.


They found "A" passport as well as several other things that one might not expect to survive the impacts seen that day (seat cushions for example). The cause of the collapses weren't determined until over three years later and all of the popular theories put up before then were wrong (including the original FEMA theory). The attackers were well known (Al Qaeda) as were their motives. Even Howard Stern had it figured out on his live broadcast five minutes after the second airplane hit.

But if you ask questions as to why the people were told that this asbestos laden building's dust was safe to breathe by the EPA, or why the bomb sniffing dogs were pulled out of the buildings the month before, and if you think it's a weird coincidence that Marvin Bush's company ran security for Dulles Airport, The WTC and United Airlines than you're crazy. It's absolutely insane to want the government to spend more money investigating 9/11 than Clinton's blowjob.

The buildings had a total of forty floors of asbestos that were already about halfway abated on the day of the attacks. The "Extra" bomb sniffing dogs were pulled out, there were still several dogs working on 9/11 and at least one of them was killed in the collapses. Marvin Bush's "Company" was fired before they had completed the job that they were hired to do (They installed, not operated security devices. They didn't "Run" security for anyone), aside from that Marvin Bush left that company over a year before the attacks.

The government has so far spent approximately four billion dollars investigating 9/11 versus approximately 65 million dollars over Whitewater et-al.

You clearly don't have a clue as to what you're talking about but you sure do have the wrong answers for just about everything anyway.
2012-09-24 10:42:08 PM
2 votes:

threadjackistan: That, and from what I've heard the emergency generator's fuel pumping system was designed in sort of the stupidest way imaginable(hardened, activated automatically, couldn't be shut down and kept from pumping fuel all over the building or something). But that's just what I read when I was younger.


All of that is incorrect - the large diesel fuel tanks above ground on floors 8-9 were accounted for after the collapse (still full), and the fuel stored underground to supply generators on floors 5 and 6 couldn't provide enough energy to weaken the support beams on those floors, primarily because the generator fuel line wasn't big enough to generate a fire, even after 6 hours, to cause failure of the support that collapsed. Here's the official NIST techinical report, start on page 48. It's a Powerpoint slide show with pictures, so it's easy to get through.

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/upload/WTC7TechnicalBrief in g_082608-WEBCAST.pdf

For fun, if you keep going, they actually address the "controlled demo" question with modeling and destroy the argument with something as simple as broken windows and sound.
2012-09-24 05:30:32 PM
2 votes:

BronyMedic: You're right. One of the most incompetent administrations in the history of the United States had the cunning knowledge of the exact time, date, and method that a foreign national group would use to murder tens of thousands of United States civilians, and purposefully did nothing to increase their profit margins. And they did so without any one person having any evidence or knowledge of this, and ignoring the common tenants of human decency and the perchance of ANY large conspiracy of this size to be blown out to the media by those who exhibit it..


Yeah, I don't believe any of that either. They did however exploit 9/11 after the fact in every way they could. The Dick Cheney/Haliburton thing is too ridiculous to be a coincidence. I think they had a hard on for Iraq from the beginning and they saw 9/11 as an excuse and they took it.

But no, 9/11 itself was not planned by the US.
2012-09-24 04:49:54 PM
2 votes:
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Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy.
2012-09-24 04:05:25 PM
2 votes:
His music is still shiatty.
2012-09-24 11:56:41 PM
1 votes:
Guess what, Musician: your opinion meant nothing before, and it means nothing now.
2012-09-24 10:58:05 PM
1 votes:

schubie: I like how everyone says the government is too incompetent to pull something off like 9/11 but believe that they solved the whole thing in time for the evening news.


Oh, they did?

schubie: They found the hijacker's perfectly singed passports that day.


Actually, they were found before the building collapsed, along with highly flammable airline flotation seats as well. This is unusual, but not impossible, as other airline disasters have had similar objects found. The significance of these Passports, however, were not known until after the 9/11 attacks.

schubie: They'd announced the motive, the means, the perpetrators and the reasons the buildings failed in 12 hours. It was amazing to see.


Actually, no. The motive for the attacks were not discovered for some time afterwords, during the investigation phase of the post-9/11 mitigation and recovery. And the preliminary reason for the buildings failure was announced. It would be years before the NIST Report, which was backed by thousands of scientists and engineers, supported the reason given.

schubie: But if you ask questions as to why the people were told that this asbestos laden building's dust was safe to breathe by the EPA


EPA Incompetence has zero to do with the reason the Twin Towers fell that day.

schubie: why the bomb sniffing dogs were pulled out of the buildings the month before


Imagine that. a 9/11 Truther telling a blatant lie. In addition, it would be impossible to plant explosives in the building in a necessary manner to bring them down like that without anyone noticing in the time-frame of one month. Oh, and there's the fact that the NIST report specifically debunks this claim.

schubie: you're crazy. It's absolutely insane to want the government to spend more money investigating 9/11 than Clinton's blowjob.


No. We think you're crazy for being a LaMOE (Last man on earth) prick who thinks somehow, he can magically see behind the veil of what would, using logic, be a string of unlikely circumstances connected in the face of an unthinkable disaster, and find a conspiracy theory reaching up to the highest echelons of Government its self. And yet, somehow, there's no credible evidence to prove your position.

We think you're a crazy dick because you want to use the lives of thousands of men and women, who were murdered by a group of Saudi Nationals, as justification for the immorality and incompetence of your previous Administration.
2012-09-24 10:06:50 PM
1 votes:

I_Love_Cheesecake: So, the truth is that a bunch of Muslim extremists holed up in some caves in Afghanistan back in the day managed to hoodwink the entire US security apparatus, have four airplanes hijacked with box cutters and have them piloted into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon?

Alrighty, then.


I think that you meant to say that a bunch of Muslim extremists with university level educations in engineering, commercial pilots licenses and access to millions of dollars found a hole in the US security apparatus in the form of lax security measures and standards in US airports and then killed the pilots with (then allowed, see lax security standards above) razor sharp knives less than 4 inches long (most likely by cutting their throats as they were strapped into their seats) and cowed the passengers with threats of more murders if they interfered, then they used the planes to destroy the towers that they had already vowed to take down since at least 1993. They also exploited a weakness in the US air defense network by bypassing the part where attacks by air have to get here over vast distances over water or ice first and just started off behind that line of defense instead.
2012-09-24 09:45:31 PM
1 votes:
Maybe insane, but they can craft an unofficial James Bond title song like nobody's business!
2012-09-24 07:28:08 PM
1 votes:

A Terrible Human: MagSeven: Now it seems like he wants to be Freddy Mercury and they have a new dub-step obsession.

Not a damn thing wrong with the first part honestly,Freddy Mercury was dedicated to the music but wtf is that shiat. If I wanna listen to dub step then I'll listen to farking dub step. Stop shoving it into every available genre and stop turning songs that don't ever need to sound like to dub step into dub step.

/Who the fark listens to Tool or Deftones and then goes "It's great but what it needs is most of that shiat drowned out and distorted!"
//At least from what I've seen on youtube.


I hear you, but from what I've heard it isn't so bad. At least they wrote the songs the way they are, as opposed to other rock bands who throw in some electronic breaks or nuances as an afterthought because it's the latest thing. That's always bugged me a lot more.

BTW, Deftones has a new single streaming around the internets.
2012-09-24 07:22:26 PM
1 votes:

MagSeven: Now it seems like he wants to be Freddy Mercury and they have a new dub-step obsession.


Not a damn thing wrong with the first part honestly,Freddy Mercury was dedicated to the music but wtf is that shiat. If I wanna listen to dub step then I'll listen to farking dub step. Stop shoving it into every available genre and stop turning songs that don't ever need to sound like to dub step into dub step.

/Who the fark listens to Tool or Deftones and then goes "It's great but what it needs is most of that shiat drowned out and distorted!"
//At least from what I've seen on youtube.
2012-09-24 06:56:13 PM
1 votes:

fusillade762: Mugato: There were no WMDs.

And yet 63 percent of Republicans still believe that there were.


Of course they did.
2012-09-24 05:49:27 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: But these threads make me sad. Because I see FARKers, which normally are sane, go full derp and out themselves as iPhone truthers.


BronyMedic: iPhone? fark you, autocorrect. 9/11 truthers.



9/11 autocorrects as iPhone, and yet you still don't see the conspiracy?
2012-09-24 05:47:19 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: And, I can see this. This is a legitimate theory, in my mind. 9/11 coincidentally made it far easier for them to push war on an angry population, the majority of which was whipped up in the bandwagon frenzy of killing brown people. (Too bad it was the Saudis they should have been mad with.)

But these threads make me sad. Because I see FARKers, which normally are sane, go full derp and out themselves as iPhone truthers.


Well the way I see it, these Truthers put way too much faith in their government's ability to pull off something like this. Clinton couldn't get a beej from the chubby intern down the hall without getting busted. Nixon couldn't pull off a simple burglary. The various Kennedy's couldn't disappear a few women properly. These people might aspire to be comic book villains but they don't have the skills. shiat, they couldn't even plant WMDs in Iraq.

And they didn't need to. They didn't need something as huge as 9/11 to make the people support a war in Iraq. 9/11 didn't even have anything to do with Iraq but people were like, fark it. They sure as hell didn't need to nuke the entire WTC and part of the Pentagon and whatever that other plane was up to.

So the government isn't capable of pulling something like this off and call me naive but even someone like Dick Cheney can't be that much of a sociopath.
2012-09-24 05:36:56 PM
1 votes:
iPhone? fark you, autocorrect. 9/11 truthers.
2012-09-24 05:36:20 PM
1 votes:

Mugato: Yeah, I don't believe any of that either. They did however exploit 9/11 after the fact in every way they could. The Dick Cheney/Haliburton thing is too ridiculous to be a coincidence. I think they had a hard on for Iraq from the beginning and they saw 9/11 as an excuse and they took it.

But no, 9/11 itself was not planned by the US.


And, I can see this. This is a legitimate theory, in my mind. 9/11 coincidentally made it far easier for them to push war on an angry population, the majority of which was whipped up in the bandwagon frenzy of killing brown people. (Too bad it was the Saudis they should have been mad with.)

But these threads make me sad. Because I see FARKers, which normally are sane, go full derp and out themselves as iPhone truthers.
2012-09-24 05:31:45 PM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: He's just trying to exorcise the demons from his past


He finally stopped to ask himself 'is this real or is this just madness?'
2012-09-24 05:31:04 PM
1 votes:
One needs only listen to the leak of his latest album to grasp a sense of this man's insanity.
2012-09-24 04:23:32 PM
1 votes:
He's just trying to exorcise the demons from his past
2012-09-24 04:20:51 PM
1 votes:

make me some tea: Who?


He's the guy farking Kate Hudson and being a farking rock star while being very short and very ugly.

I like the "Absolution" record and a track here and there and that's about it. But I did see them live on Palladia the other day and they put on a hell of a show.

(For a band that started off mimicking Smashing Pumpkins before moving to mimicking Radiohead.)
 
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