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(New Musical Express)   "I no longer believe that 9/11 was an inside job," says Matt Bellamy of Muse, who apparently was f*cking insane this whole time   (nme.com) divider line 144
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2012-09-24 10:58:05 PM  

schubie: I like how everyone says the government is too incompetent to pull something off like 9/11 but believe that they solved the whole thing in time for the evening news.


Oh, they did?

schubie: They found the hijacker's perfectly singed passports that day.


Actually, they were found before the building collapsed, along with highly flammable airline flotation seats as well. This is unusual, but not impossible, as other airline disasters have had similar objects found. The significance of these Passports, however, were not known until after the 9/11 attacks.

schubie: They'd announced the motive, the means, the perpetrators and the reasons the buildings failed in 12 hours. It was amazing to see.


Actually, no. The motive for the attacks were not discovered for some time afterwords, during the investigation phase of the post-9/11 mitigation and recovery. And the preliminary reason for the buildings failure was announced. It would be years before the NIST Report, which was backed by thousands of scientists and engineers, supported the reason given.

schubie: But if you ask questions as to why the people were told that this asbestos laden building's dust was safe to breathe by the EPA


EPA Incompetence has zero to do with the reason the Twin Towers fell that day.

schubie: why the bomb sniffing dogs were pulled out of the buildings the month before


Imagine that. a 9/11 Truther telling a blatant lie. In addition, it would be impossible to plant explosives in the building in a necessary manner to bring them down like that without anyone noticing in the time-frame of one month. Oh, and there's the fact that the NIST report specifically debunks this claim.

schubie: you're crazy. It's absolutely insane to want the government to spend more money investigating 9/11 than Clinton's blowjob.


No. We think you're crazy for being a LaMOE (Last man on earth) prick who thinks somehow, he can magically see behind the veil of what would, using logic, be a string of unlikely circumstances connected in the face of an unthinkable disaster, and find a conspiracy theory reaching up to the highest echelons of Government its self. And yet, somehow, there's no credible evidence to prove your position.

We think you're a crazy dick because you want to use the lives of thousands of men and women, who were murdered by a group of Saudi Nationals, as justification for the immorality and incompetence of your previous Administration.
 
2012-09-24 11:00:07 PM  

Lsherm: threadjackistan: That, and from what I've heard the emergency generator's fuel pumping system was designed in sort of the stupidest way imaginable(hardened, activated automatically, couldn't be shut down and kept from pumping fuel all over the building or something). But that's just what I read when I was younger.

All of that is incorrect - the large diesel fuel tanks above ground on floors 8-9 were accounted for after the collapse (still full), and the fuel stored underground to supply generators on floors 5 and 6 couldn't provide enough energy to weaken the support beams on those floors, primarily because the generator fuel line wasn't big enough to generate a fire, even after 6 hours, to cause failure of the support that collapsed. Here's the official NIST techinical report, start on page 48. It's a Powerpoint slide show with pictures, so it's easy to get through.

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/upload/WTC7TechnicalBrief in g_082608-WEBCAST.pdf

For fun, if you keep going, they actually address the "controlled demo" question with modeling and destroy the argument with something as simple as broken windows and sound.


I didnt say I believed it, just that it was something I read(and probably believed at the time) somewhere(the internet), when I was younger(in highschool).
 
2012-09-24 11:00:49 PM  

AdamK: they were effective at responding to crisis


*blink* * blink* BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*kof**kof*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA
 
2012-09-24 11:03:22 PM  
The problem reflected here is that we've allowed our entertainment to think its opinions are important to us. We need to put an end to that.
 
2012-09-24 11:05:06 PM  
No, I wasn't a "truther" until our honeymoon in St Croix when I was at a bar drinking and we met the Head of Homeland Security for USVI. I asked how he got such a sweet job and he said "I was head of security for United Airlines at Logan Airport on 9/11." The head of security responsible for the one of the most deadly security failures ever. It didn't seem like something worth the reward of probably one of the top 10 government jobs of all time.

And you're wrong, they said all of those things that night on the news. Sure, they took their time on the reports but all of the main talking points were there. Did you not watch the news that night?
 
2012-09-24 11:08:39 PM  

schubie: No, I wasn't a "truther" until our honeymoon in St Croix when I was at a bar drinking and we met the Head of Homeland Security for USVI. I asked how he got such a sweet job and he said "I was head of security for United Airlines at Logan Airport on 9/11." The head of security responsible for the one of the most deadly security failures ever. It didn't seem like something worth the reward of probably one of the top 10 government jobs of all time.

And you're wrong, they said all of those things that night on the news. Sure, they took their time on the reports but all of the main talking points were there. Did you not watch the news that night?


denver.mylittlefacewhen.com
 
2012-09-24 11:14:27 PM  

BronyMedic: Let's see here. If it quacks like a duck...


Exactly my point about you. George Bush Apologist. Let me guess, you voted for him.
 
2012-09-24 11:17:18 PM  

schubie: I like how everyone says the government is too incompetent to pull something off like 9/11 but believe that they solved the whole thing in time for the evening news. They found the hijacker's perfectly singed passports that day. They'd announced the motive, the means, the perpetrators and the reasons the buildings failed in 12 hours. It was amazing to see.


They found "A" passport as well as several other things that one might not expect to survive the impacts seen that day (seat cushions for example). The cause of the collapses weren't determined until over three years later and all of the popular theories put up before then were wrong (including the original FEMA theory). The attackers were well known (Al Qaeda) as were their motives. Even Howard Stern had it figured out on his live broadcast five minutes after the second airplane hit.

But if you ask questions as to why the people were told that this asbestos laden building's dust was safe to breathe by the EPA, or why the bomb sniffing dogs were pulled out of the buildings the month before, and if you think it's a weird coincidence that Marvin Bush's company ran security for Dulles Airport, The WTC and United Airlines than you're crazy. It's absolutely insane to want the government to spend more money investigating 9/11 than Clinton's blowjob.

The buildings had a total of forty floors of asbestos that were already about halfway abated on the day of the attacks. The "Extra" bomb sniffing dogs were pulled out, there were still several dogs working on 9/11 and at least one of them was killed in the collapses. Marvin Bush's "Company" was fired before they had completed the job that they were hired to do (They installed, not operated security devices. They didn't "Run" security for anyone), aside from that Marvin Bush left that company over a year before the attacks.

The government has so far spent approximately four billion dollars investigating 9/11 versus approximately 65 million dollars over Whitewater et-al.

You clearly don't have a clue as to what you're talking about but you sure do have the wrong answers for just about everything anyway.
 
2012-09-24 11:27:02 PM  

A Terrible Human: /Who the fark listens to Tool or Deftones and then goes "It's great but what it needs is most of that shiat drowned out and distorted!"


Distorted stuff on my Tool?
 
2012-09-24 11:31:00 PM  

miniflea: Because People in power are Stupid: [img.photobucket.com image 735x430]

Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy.

To paraphrase, never attribute to conspiracy that which is explainable by stupidity.


So it all happened

Because People in power are Stupid: [img.photobucket.com image 735x430]

Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy.

 
?
 
2012-09-24 11:48:40 PM  

LewDux: miniflea: Because People in power are Stupid: [img.photobucket.com image 735x430]

Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy.

To paraphrase, never attribute to conspiracy that which is explainable by stupidity.

So it all happened Because People in power are Stupid: [img.photobucket.com image 735x430]

Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy. 
?


Yup.

Brony is a pretentious douche who put words in my mouth ascribing a motive where there was none. The right wing propagandists that I mention were merely taking advantage of the stupidity that Brony voted into power.
 
2012-09-24 11:50:23 PM  

Lsherm: dehehn: NorCalLos: Regarding Truthers:

I don't think it was an inside job, but I don't doubt the capacity of the gubmint (CIA) to do something like this and I don't think it/they are above it. Could someone please answer this question for me, though. What is the deal with the third tower the truthers always talk about coming down? Did that really happen? If so, was it brought down by one of the other towers?

Yes, a third tower did fall down that day, it was WTC Building #7. The official reason for it coming down is debris from the other towers taking a big chunk out of it, and fires.

The troofers maintain that 8 hours of uncontrolled burning in WTC7 was not enough to bring it down. It was hit with debris early in the morning which damaged the sprinkler system and caught upper floors on fire, then the fires burned throughout most of the day on upper floors the FDNY couldn't get to. The fire department evacuated around 3pm, and at 5:30 the building came down. Since the building housed a great deal of confidential government and banking information, it's a favorite plot point of troofers to claim it was purposely demolished to get people off the hook for criminal activity.


Actually it took only 8 hours because the plane also carried tanks full of the mind-control agents airlines use to make chemtrails
 
2012-09-24 11:51:56 PM  

LewDux: Actually it took only 8 hours because the plane also carried tanks full of the mind-control agents airlines use to make chemtrails


Not to mention their awesome costumes. Agents are always well dressed.
 
2012-09-24 11:56:41 PM  
Guess what, Musician: your opinion meant nothing before, and it means nothing now.
 
2012-09-25 12:03:29 AM  

Blowmonkey: LewDux: Actually it took only 8 hours because the plane also carried tanks full of the mind-control agents airlines use to make chemtrails

Not to mention their awesome costumes. Agents are always well dressed.


Of cause they had awesome costumes, government paid them well and probably promised sexy jobs in Caribbean islands to sit on their asses and do nothing while terrorists hijacked planes
 
2012-09-25 12:04:41 AM  
one liberal down, many, many more to go.
at least it is a start.
 
kab
2012-09-25 12:10:34 AM  

FitzShivering: Ah, this crap again. If you believe one of the most incompetent administrations in recent memory pulled off one of the largest conspiracies in reason memory without getting caught, you are a weapons grade idiot.


It's always amusing how folks will view government as utterly incompetent in every aspect, yet have full faith in them to supply and run our national defense.

It's hardly a huge stretch to believe, given the current available information, that an upcoming attack was certainly known about and not reacted to, since there needed to be motive for the war effort (and this worked rather perfectly, of course).

And it's not like it had never been at least considered before:

img443.imageshack.us
 
2012-09-25 12:15:15 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: one liberal down, many, many more to go.
at least it is a start.


img1.fark.net A plane has just hit the second liberal
 
2012-09-25 12:36:38 AM  
Money has made him soft
 
2012-09-25 12:45:59 AM  
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

- Robert J. Hanlon (allegedly)
 
2012-09-25 01:11:03 AM  

Snapper Carr: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

- Robert J. Hanlon (allegedly)


AYUP.
 
2012-09-25 01:26:05 AM  
What the hell is going on in this thread?

It should have been a discussion on how horrible the new single, "Madness", is.

/Muse fan
//still looking forward to the new album
 
2012-09-25 03:25:10 AM  
Do not watch this

film.

Seriously.
 
2012-09-25 03:30:58 AM  

kab: FitzShivering: Ah, this crap again. If you believe one of the most incompetent administrations in recent memory pulled off one of the largest conspiracies in reason memory without getting caught, you are a weapons grade idiot.

It's always amusing how folks will view government as utterly incompetent in every aspect, yet have full faith in them to supply and run our national defense.


I don't have faith in the government to supply for our national defense, so don't know what that one is about, but, in general, yes, it is amusing when people think that.


It's hardly a huge stretch to believe, given the current available information, that an upcoming attack was certainly known about and not reacted to, since there needed to be motive for the war effort (and this worked rather perfectly, of course).

And it's not like it had never been at least considered before:


There is a very long walk between not reacting to an attack and the attack being an inside job. The Bush administration wasn't capable of blowing up a balloon, much less a building, or multiple buildings.

 
2012-09-25 05:45:41 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Insulted by a Furry with a pony fetish. Like that's an insult.


Well, it's a little insulting.
 
2012-09-25 07:19:26 AM  

thamike: Because People in power are Stupid: Insulted by a Furry with a pony fetish. Like that's an insult.

Well, it's a little insulting.


Hardly. Imagine some idiot who's sitting at home wearing some costume and being a pretentious douche on the internet.

img.photobucket.com

He thinks that his opinion is so highly valued that other people actually care what his opinion is. He doesn't actually argue against what people say so he makes it up. As he imagines that he is so full of wit, he posts my little pony pictures with jokes that only he laughs at.

Now visualize that he's masturbating.

That's BronyMedic
 
2012-09-25 09:59:14 AM  
I don't think the government orchestrated it, or knew about it before it happened... but I do think they used the Hell out of it for their own reasons. (invade Iraq, make lots of $$$$, etc.)
 
2012-09-25 10:02:39 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: [i18.photobucket.com image 640x480]


Worst. Barbeque. EVAR.
 
2012-09-25 11:18:16 AM  

Ganymede_Elegy: What the hell is going on in this thread?

It should have been a discussion on how horrible the new single, "Madness", is.

/Muse fan
//still looking forward to the new album


Listened to the leak. There are a maybe 3 good songs on it IMO. It could be a "grower", but I doubt it.
 
2012-09-25 12:56:17 PM  

A Terrible Human: NorCalLos: At least they wrote the songs the way they are, as opposed to other rock bands who throw in some electronic breaks or nuances as an afterthought because it's the latest thing. That's always bugged me a lot more.

BTW, Deftones has a new single streaming around the internets.

That's probably more how I should've worded it and the reason it bugs you is because you know damn well that isn't the type of music they made before dub step got popular. I don't hate dub step,I like dub step,except skrillex and his horrible voice can go fark off.


I think there's a difference between throwing electronic elements in after the songs are written and writing songs with eletronic elements in them. It's not like Muse has never had any synth or electronic drums before. From what I've read, they're trying to create dub-step using mostly live instruments, which is at least a cool exercise. This is also not the first time they've made cheesey pop music or jumped on a flavor of the month bandwagon (concept album about oppressive government). Not really sure what my point is, but there you go... If you're looking for dub-step, don't listen to Muse. If you're looking for art-pop-rock band simulating dub-step, congratulations, you've found it.
 
2012-09-25 01:01:40 PM  
 
2012-09-25 01:34:51 PM  

Lsherm: dehehn: NorCalLos: Regarding Truthers:

We knew about it and ALLLOWED it to happen to further an agenda. The towers were a separate deal, the folks who stood to gain wanted to make sure there was no evidence.Skyscrapers don't fall into their footprint from fire. Never happened never will. All our planes were disarmed that day for "war games" (they finally acknowledged this) If it was a real "surprise" attack, they woulda had the president go act like one, but they didn't because they knew all about it.

 
2012-09-25 01:55:25 PM  
I have a friend who constantly posts truther and conspiracy theorist crap on Facebook (9/11 was an inside job, Bush was working with bin Laden, etc.). The only reason I ever read them and indulge in discussions about it with him is for shiats and giggles and to fark with him. He once posted something that I knew to be an outright fabrication, and I called him on it. Did a 30 second Google search for a few things to back my claims up with and he responds with the ever popular "you shouldn't believe everything you read" claim that these guys like to make when they are "pwnd."

That's my favorite thing about these conspiracy nuts: "don't believe everything you read." I love soooo much to hear them drop that line. It basically equates to them saying "Who cares if what you're saying is true and completely negates all the bullshiat I'm spewing, I'm not changing my stance as a fringe nutjob." Something I've never understood about that line is that if I'm not suppose to believe everything I hear then why do you, and why should I believe anything YOU'RE saying? It's just a terrible argument.

/yes, he is an adamant Ron Paul supporter
//why do you ask?
 
2012-09-25 02:42:04 PM  
Because People in power are Stupid



Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent.


On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture
During a February 2002 speech, Clinton explained that he turned down an offer from Sudan for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S., saying, "At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him."

But that wasn't exactly true. By 1996, the 9/11 mastermind had already been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing by prosecutors in New York.



CIA Official To 60 Minutes: Clinton White House Didn't Approve Bin Laden Kill
one former official explained to Lara Logan the frustrating process of targeting and finding Bin Laden in Afghanistan in 1999, barely taking precautions to cover himself, and receiving only bureaucratic obstacles from the Clinton White House when asking for authorization to kill him.


Simple question. Under which president did 19 terrorists that planned to commit mass murder...

.. move to the U.S.A.?

.. learn to fly, but not land airplanes?
 
2012-09-25 02:59:17 PM  

fusillade762: Mugato: There were no WMDs.

And yet 63 percent of Republicans still believe that there were.


um.because there were?
 
2012-09-25 03:46:44 PM  

OnlyM3: Because People in power are Stupid

Simple question. Under which president did 19 terrorists that planned to commit mass murder...

.. move to the U.S.A.?

.. learn to fly, but not land airplanes?


I'm so glad an admitted Bushy has come out to play

img.photobucket.com

The Clinton Administration prevented the Millenium bombing of LAX.

The Bush administration priority prior to 9/11 was never to prevent any terrorist attacks. And afterwords -it was to fark up the response as much as possible. If you want any other proof of this -look at how badly they farked up the response to Hurricane Katrina.

It took Bush to be removed from office before Osama could be taken out.

And if you are citing Clinton for not getting Osama with a missile strike -thank republicans for that resistance. At the time they were whining that things like missile strikes in Afghanistan as being a means of Clinton distracting people from getting a blowjob.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/clinton.asp
 
2012-09-25 04:33:22 PM  

dehehn: NorCalLos: Regarding Truthers:

I don't think it was an inside job, but I don't doubt the capacity of the gubmint (CIA) to do something like this and I don't think it/they are above it. Could someone please answer this question for me, though. What is the deal with the third tower the truthers always talk about coming down? Did that really happen? If so, was it brought down by one of the other towers?

Yes, a third tower did fall down that day, it was WTC Building #7. The official reason for it coming down is debris from the other towers taking a big chunk out of it, and fires.


The conspiracy behind building 7 that it came down in the same exact way the towers did.. Which was highly unlikely due to the minor damage it received.
 
2012-09-25 05:55:49 PM  

toby8915: fusillade762: Mugato: There were no WMDs.

And yet 63 percent of Republicans still believe that there were.

um.because there were?


Gonna have to find a source more reliable than the NY Post to convince me.
 
2012-09-25 06:24:18 PM  

schubie: I like how everyone says the government is too incompetent to pull something off like 9/11 but believe that they solved the whole thing in time for the evening news. They found the hijacker's perfectly singed passports that day. They'd announced the motive, the means, the perpetrators and the reasons the buildings failed in 12 hours. It was amazing to see.

But if you ask questions as to why the people were told that this asbestos laden building's dust was safe to breathe by the EPA, or why the bomb sniffing dogs were pulled out of the buildings the month before, and if you think it's a weird coincidence that Marvin Bush's company ran security for Dulles Airport, The WTC and United Airlines than you're crazy. It's absolutely insane to want the government to spend more money investigating 9/11 than Clinton's blowjob.


how dare you even think to question the official story.

this means that you are automatically a:

troofer
birther
tea bagger

as soon as you are ready to apologize for questioning your government, we are all ears.
 
2012-09-25 07:24:35 PM  

NorCalLos:
Regarding The Muse:

I've been listening since Absolution/Time Is Running Out, and I've always made the Radiohead comparison because of the way Bellamy uses his falsetto. He uses a full or mixed voice during the verses and switches to falsetto during the choruses, much like Yorke used to do (Creep, Fake Plastic Trees, High and Dry). On that album, I used to think of them as a cross between The Radiohead and The Jane's Addiction, mostly because of the hard rock, yet mainstream sounding guitar riffs. Is there another album where they sound like The The Smashing Pumpkins?


I wish they sounded more like The The The.
 
2012-09-25 08:02:02 PM  

GibbyTheMole: I don't think the government orchestrated it, or knew about it before it happened... but I do think they used the Hell out of it for their own reasons. (invade Iraq, make lots of $$$$, etc.)


That's all I was saying.
 
2012-09-25 11:45:17 PM  

NorCalLos: Could someone please answer this question for me, though. What is the deal with the third tower the truthers always talk about coming down? Did that really happen? If so, was it brought down by one of the other towers?


The building caught fire during the collapse of the other 2 towers. It was not tended to (there was a PRETTY BIG PROBLEM NEXT DOOR) and eventually collapsed.
 
2012-09-27 12:14:01 PM  

inner ted: schubie: I like how everyone says the government is too incompetent to pull something off like 9/11 but believe that they solved the whole thing in time for the evening news. They found the hijacker's perfectly singed passports that day. They'd announced the motive, the means, the perpetrators and the reasons the buildings failed in 12 hours. It was amazing to see.

But if you ask questions as to why the people were told that this asbestos laden building's dust was safe to breathe by the EPA, or why the bomb sniffing dogs were pulled out of the buildings the month before, and if you think it's a weird coincidence that Marvin Bush's company ran security for Dulles Airport, The WTC and United Airlines than you're crazy. It's absolutely insane to want the government to spend more money investigating 9/11 than Clinton's blowjob.

how dare you even think to question the official story.

this means that you are automatically a:

troofer
birther
tea bagger

as soon as you are ready to apologize for questioning your government, we are all ears.


You apparently missed the part of the thread where everything he said was debunked.
 
2012-09-27 01:11:23 PM  

browntimmy: inner ted: schubie: I like how everyone says the government is too incompetent to pull something off like 9/11 but believe that they solved the whole thing in time for the evening news. They found the hijacker's perfectly singed passports that day. They'd announced the motive, the means, the perpetrators and the reasons the buildings failed in 12 hours. It was amazing to see.

But if you ask questions as to why the people were told that this asbestos laden building's dust was safe to breathe by the EPA, or why the bomb sniffing dogs were pulled out of the buildings the month before, and if you think it's a weird coincidence that Marvin Bush's company ran security for Dulles Airport, The WTC and United Airlines than you're crazy. It's absolutely insane to want the government to spend more money investigating 9/11 than Clinton's blowjob.

how dare you even think to question the official story.

this means that you are automatically a:

troofer
birther
tea bagger

as soon as you are ready to apologize for questioning your government, we are all ears.

You apparently missed the part of the thread where everything he said was debunked.


oh you mean that great link to someone's shiatty blog? is that what's supposed to settle all this?

& he's right; it's staggering to witness how nobody can deal with even being questioned on this. it's just immediate rage and name calling & that's kinda pathetic.

the hypocrisy surrounding all this is just painful. read that shiat yourself. using opinion and conjecture when it fits their view and completely discounting someone else for doing the same thing.

i don't go around hating on folks for what they believe, but i do question it (hopefully in a respectful manner). some will respond in a similar tone and state their position and have a conversation.

others will just flame out.

which are you?
 
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