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(New Musical Express)   "I no longer believe that 9/11 was an inside job," says Matt Bellamy of Muse, who apparently was f*cking insane this whole time   (nme.com) divider line 144
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2012-09-24 04:05:25 PM
His music is still shiatty.
 
2012-09-24 04:09:06 PM
Wow, look how aloof and disinterested they are. I don't know who they are but they have to be the coolest guys ever.

static.nme.com
 
2012-09-24 04:15:48 PM
'I think my political views are a bit more nuanced now,' says frontman

"Nuanced" is British for "intelligent."
 
2012-09-24 04:16:44 PM
Who?
 
2012-09-24 04:20:51 PM

make me some tea: Who?


He's the guy farking Kate Hudson and being a farking rock star while being very short and very ugly.

I like the "Absolution" record and a track here and there and that's about it. But I did see them live on Palladia the other day and they put on a hell of a show.

(For a band that started off mimicking Smashing Pumpkins before moving to mimicking Radiohead.)
 
2012-09-24 04:23:32 PM
He's just trying to exorcise the demons from his past
 
2012-09-24 04:49:54 PM
img.photobucket.com

Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy.
 
2012-09-24 05:22:43 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: [img.photobucket.com image 735x430]

Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy.


You're right. One of the most incompetent administrations in the history of the United States had the cunning knowledge of the exact time, date, and method that a foreign national group would use to murder tens of thousands of United States civilians, and purposefully did nothing to increase their profit margins. And they did so without any one person having any evidence or knowledge of this, and ignoring the common tenants of human decency and the perchance of ANY large conspiracy of this size to be blown out to the media by those who exhibit it..

www.hoax-slayer.com
 
2012-09-24 05:29:27 PM

BronyMedic: Because People in power are Stupid: [img.photobucket.com image 735x430]

Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy.

You're right. One of the most incompetent administrations in the history of the United States had the cunning knowledge of the exact time, date, and method that a foreign national group would use to murder tens of thousands of United States civilians, and purposefully did nothing to increase their profit margins. And they did so without any one person having any evidence or knowledge of this, and ignoring the common tenants of human decency and the perchance of ANY large conspiracy of this size to be blown out to the media by those who exhibit it..

[www.hoax-slayer.com image 500x357]


nice try libs the government never lies, unless there's a dirty lib in charge
 
2012-09-24 05:30:32 PM

BronyMedic: You're right. One of the most incompetent administrations in the history of the United States had the cunning knowledge of the exact time, date, and method that a foreign national group would use to murder tens of thousands of United States civilians, and purposefully did nothing to increase their profit margins. And they did so without any one person having any evidence or knowledge of this, and ignoring the common tenants of human decency and the perchance of ANY large conspiracy of this size to be blown out to the media by those who exhibit it..


Yeah, I don't believe any of that either. They did however exploit 9/11 after the fact in every way they could. The Dick Cheney/Haliburton thing is too ridiculous to be a coincidence. I think they had a hard on for Iraq from the beginning and they saw 9/11 as an excuse and they took it.

But no, 9/11 itself was not planned by the US.
 
2012-09-24 05:31:04 PM
One needs only listen to the leak of his latest album to grasp a sense of this man's insanity.
 
2012-09-24 05:31:45 PM

scottydoesntknow: He's just trying to exorcise the demons from his past


He finally stopped to ask himself 'is this real or is this just madness?'
 
2012-09-24 05:33:48 PM

falcon176: nice try libs the government never lies, unless there's a dirty lib in charge


Yes, yes. It was just the Government. The "liberal" government that was the Bush Administration. (Okay. Admit it. You're just trolling with this, right?)

It wasn't the work of thousands of scientists and experts in the field of Physics, Geology, Metallurgy, Computer Simulation and Modeling, Engineering, and Forensics which backed up the Government Statement. It wasn't the work of dozens of both Government, and extra-governmental organizations.

And they were all in on the perfect conspiracy of which there is no evidence of.

Besides. You idiots have all been duped. It was Cthulu that actually attacked the twin towers. The Secret Societies know the real truth!

videogamewriters.com
 
2012-09-24 05:34:21 PM
Uh, it's The Muse, subtard.
 
2012-09-24 05:36:20 PM

Mugato: Yeah, I don't believe any of that either. They did however exploit 9/11 after the fact in every way they could. The Dick Cheney/Haliburton thing is too ridiculous to be a coincidence. I think they had a hard on for Iraq from the beginning and they saw 9/11 as an excuse and they took it.

But no, 9/11 itself was not planned by the US.


And, I can see this. This is a legitimate theory, in my mind. 9/11 coincidentally made it far easier for them to push war on an angry population, the majority of which was whipped up in the bandwagon frenzy of killing brown people. (Too bad it was the Saudis they should have been mad with.)

But these threads make me sad. Because I see FARKers, which normally are sane, go full derp and out themselves as iPhone truthers.
 
2012-09-24 05:36:56 PM
iPhone? fark you, autocorrect. 9/11 truthers.
 
2012-09-24 05:42:21 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: [img.photobucket.com image 735x430]

Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy.


To paraphrase, never attribute to conspiracy that which is explainable by stupidity.
 
2012-09-24 05:46:39 PM
Bush and Cheney and Co. wanted Al Qaeda to do something to push their agenda, both foreign (invade Iraq at all costs) and domestic (prop up a feeble administration distrusted by many after the election fiasco), but thought it would be a tarmac hostage situation or something like that. They didn't expect the brass balls of what the hijackers did (or willfully didn't allow themselves to forsee it).

So no, it wasn't an 'inside job'. It was a wilfully negligent job. And they exploited the hell out of it.
 
2012-09-24 05:47:19 PM

BronyMedic: And, I can see this. This is a legitimate theory, in my mind. 9/11 coincidentally made it far easier for them to push war on an angry population, the majority of which was whipped up in the bandwagon frenzy of killing brown people. (Too bad it was the Saudis they should have been mad with.)

But these threads make me sad. Because I see FARKers, which normally are sane, go full derp and out themselves as iPhone truthers.


Well the way I see it, these Truthers put way too much faith in their government's ability to pull off something like this. Clinton couldn't get a beej from the chubby intern down the hall without getting busted. Nixon couldn't pull off a simple burglary. The various Kennedy's couldn't disappear a few women properly. These people might aspire to be comic book villains but they don't have the skills. shiat, they couldn't even plant WMDs in Iraq.

And they didn't need to. They didn't need something as huge as 9/11 to make the people support a war in Iraq. 9/11 didn't even have anything to do with Iraq but people were like, fark it. They sure as hell didn't need to nuke the entire WTC and part of the Pentagon and whatever that other plane was up to.

So the government isn't capable of pulling something like this off and call me naive but even someone like Dick Cheney can't be that much of a sociopath.
 
2012-09-24 05:49:27 PM

BronyMedic: But these threads make me sad. Because I see FARKers, which normally are sane, go full derp and out themselves as iPhone truthers.


BronyMedic: iPhone? fark you, autocorrect. 9/11 truthers.



9/11 autocorrects as iPhone, and yet you still don't see the conspiracy?
 
2012-09-24 05:51:32 PM

BronyMedic: falcon176: nice try libs the government never lies, unless there's a dirty lib in charge

Yes, yes. It was just the Government. The "liberal" government that was the Bush Administration. (Okay. Admit it. You're just trolling with this, right?)

It wasn't the work of thousands of scientists and experts in the field of Physics, Geology, Metallurgy, Computer Simulation and Modeling, Engineering, and Forensics which backed up the Government Statement. It wasn't the work of dozens of both Government, and extra-governmental organizations.

And they were all in on the perfect conspiracy of which there is no evidence of.

Besides. You idiots have all been duped. It was Cthulu that actually attacked the twin towers. The Secret Societies know the real truth!

[videogamewriters.com image 807x533]


what makes you think I'm trolling? The government never lies, unless there's a lib in charge. What are you a lib? Vote Romney
 
2012-09-24 05:51:39 PM

Mugato: Wow, look how aloof and disinterested they are. I don't know who they are but they have to be the coolest guys ever.

static.nme.com


i25.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-24 05:55:41 PM
I call dibs on iPhone Truthers as my new band name.
 
2012-09-24 05:57:50 PM
Insane? I thought he was Thom Yorke after a stroke.
 
2012-09-24 05:57:50 PM

Badgers: Mugato: Wow, look how aloof and disinterested they are. I don't know who they are but they have to be the coolest guys ever.

[static.nme.com image 300x184]

[i25.photobucket.com image 300x300]


Heh, I almost posted that but I was too lazy.
 
2012-09-24 05:59:44 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: I call dibs on iPhone Truthers as my new band name.


I'm pretty sure a name like that will get your band bent over like Samsung.
 
2012-09-24 06:04:35 PM

BronyMedic: ...a foreign national group would use to murder tens of thousands of United States civilians,...


Did I miss something?
 
2012-09-24 06:08:09 PM

Mugato: BronyMedic: And, I can see this. This is a legitimate theory, in my mind. 9/11 coincidentally made it far easier for them to push war on an angry population, the majority of which was whipped up in the bandwagon frenzy of killing brown people. (Too bad it was the Saudis they should have been mad with.)

But these threads make me sad. Because I see FARKers, which normally are sane, go full derp and out themselves as iPhone truthers.

Well the way I see it, these Truthers put way too much faith in their government's ability to pull off something like this. Clinton couldn't get a beej from the chubby intern down the hall without getting busted. Nixon couldn't pull off a simple burglary. The various Kennedy's couldn't disappear a few women properly. These people might aspire to be comic book villains but they don't have the skills. shiat, they couldn't even plant WMDs in Iraq.

And they didn't need to. They didn't need something as huge as 9/11 to make the people support a war in Iraq. 9/11 didn't even have anything to do with Iraq but people were like, fark it. They sure as hell didn't need to nuke the entire WTC and part of the Pentagon and whatever that other plane was up to.

So the government isn't capable of pulling something like this off and call me naive but even someone like Dick Cheney can't be that much of a sociopath.


OK, what did you do with the real Mugato?


Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Bush and Cheney and Co. wanted Al Qaeda to do something to push their agenda, both foreign (invade Iraq at all costs) and domestic (prop up a feeble administration distrusted by many after the election fiasco), but thought it would be a tarmac hostage situation or something like that. They didn't expect the brass balls of what the hijackers did (or willfully didn't allow themselves to forsee it).

So no, it wasn't an 'inside job'. It was a wilfully negligent job. And they exploited the hell out of it.


6/10 - decent attempt to be more subtle with the conspiracy angle, but ultimately flawed.

Bush didn't want war with Iraq before 9/11.

His administration is guilty of railroading us down that path after 9/11, but there was (and still is) some compelling evidence of Saddam's involvement, mostly through the Kuwaitis who were involved in the hijackings that day. There was some coincidental evidence, as well, mostly with the timing of operatives from both Al Qaida and Iraq being in the same places at the same time.

For whatever reason, there seems to be some bizarre malady that affects people, left or right, who end up in Washington - a malady that pushes them into single-mindedness and a particular inability to change course once set upon. I would say that the divisive tone the Democrats set on losing the 2000 election in the manner they did, forced partisanship - and when it came to 9/11, it was either go guns blazing, or appear indecisive to the public.

There was no conspiracy. Yes, Bush had memos saying what Osama Bin Laden had been saying for over a decade, without any detail that would have been helpful in providing a practical countermeasure to what happened on 9/11. WTF, even in hindsight, was Bush supposed to do with THAT information? This isn't Madagascar.... he couldn't "shut it all down!" - nor could he magically revamp the security in our nations airports overnight (and after 11 years, they only continue to make things worse).

Give it a rest people.
 
2012-09-24 06:08:46 PM

sprawl15: Uh, it's The Muse, subtard.


I've spent the last 8 years of my career in rock radio, and I've never heard or seen this band referred to as THE Muse.

Unless your comment is a troll/inside joke. In that case, I'm so very sorry. Please carry on.
 
2012-09-24 06:10:02 PM

LesserEvil: OK, what did you do with the real Mugato?


Why, what'd I say?
 
2012-09-24 06:12:27 PM

BronyMedic: Mugato: Yeah, I don't believe any of that either. They did however exploit 9/11 after the fact in every way they could. The Dick Cheney/Haliburton thing is too ridiculous to be a coincidence. I think they had a hard on for Iraq from the beginning and they saw 9/11 as an excuse and they took it.

But no, 9/11 itself was not planned by the US.

And, I can see this. This is a legitimate theory, in my mind. 9/11 coincidentally made it far easier for them to push war on an angry population, the majority of which was whipped up in the bandwagon frenzy of killing brown people. (Too bad it was the Saudis they should have been mad with.)

But these threads make me sad. Because I see FARKers, which normally are sane, go full derp and out themselves as iPhone truthers.


i won't argue with the Bush Administration whipping up a frenzy to gain support for ground wars in the middle east, that part is obvious

not sure what targeting Saudi Arabia would've done to have any meaningful impact on the support structure that made that attack (and the other hundreds of attacks globally before/since) possible? the reality is painfully obvious that the Bush administration opted to simply annihilate the most convenient enemies of the region and avoid shiatting up stable regimes/dictatorships or friends of Russia/China... with the added ideal that bringing economic stability to the primary source of wealth in the region - oil - would bring about some kind of prosperous new-age to the middle east and the source of unrest in the region would quell

there was one major problem that plagued the Bush administration before 9/11 even happened that set the whole thing in motion and doomed our Weeners - the administration's predictable approach to everything (how it handled the unpredictable dangers of a domestic attack by Osama Bin Laden, to ground wars in the middle east, to nation-building and american-style democracy in ethnically unstable regions, etc.) and the brute-force nature of how it handled problems (miscues in afghanistan? drum up war 24/7/365 for a war in Iraq, wholesale economic endangerment by the federal reserve, political suicide at every turn for short term gains, etc.)

they were effective at responding to crisis, whether that response was right or wrong always seemed like an afterthought
 
2012-09-24 06:12:52 PM

Mugato: LesserEvil: OK, what did you do with the real Mugato?

Why, what'd I say?


Just appreciated the reasoned response, is all. ;)
 
2012-09-24 06:13:23 PM
Maybe discovering Glenn Beck was a fan pushed him over the edge?


AdolfOliverPanties: (For a band that started off mimicking Smashing Pumpkins before moving to mimicking Radiohead.)


They have a couple of songs that I like (Supermassive Black Hole, for one). Gotta agree with you on the Radiohead thing, though. I was 100% sure when I heard their new song that it was Radiohead. I guess they could have picked a worse band to mimic.
 
2012-09-24 06:13:54 PM

AdamK: BronyMedic: Mugato: Yeah, I don't believe any of that either. They did however exploit 9/11 after the fact in every way they could. The Dick Cheney/Haliburton thing is too ridiculous to be a coincidence. I think they had a hard on for Iraq from the beginning and they saw 9/11 as an excuse and they took it.

But no, 9/11 itself was not planned by the US.

And, I can see this. This is a legitimate theory, in my mind. 9/11 coincidentally made it far easier for them to push war on an angry population, the majority of which was whipped up in the bandwagon frenzy of killing brown people. (Too bad it was the Saudis they should have been mad with.)

But these threads make me sad. Because I see FARKers, which normally are sane, go full derp and out themselves as iPhone truthers.

i won't argue with the Bush Administration whipping up a frenzy to gain support for ground wars in the middle east, that part is obvious

not sure what targeting Saudi Arabia would've done to have any meaningful impact on the support structure that made that attack (and the other hundreds of attacks globally before/since) possible? the reality is painfully obvious that the Bush administration opted to simply annihilate the most convenient enemies of the region and avoid shiatting up stable regimes/dictatorships or friends of Russia/China... with the added ideal that bringing economic stability to the primary source of wealth in the region - oil - would bring about some kind of prosperous new-age to the middle east and the source of unrest in the region would quell

there was one major problem that plagued the Bush administration before 9/11 even happened that set the whole thing in motion and doomed our Weeners - the administration's predictable approach to everything (how it handled the unpredictable dangers of a domestic attack by Osama Bin Laden, to ground wars in the middle east, to nation-building and american-style democracy in ethnically unstable regions, etc.) and the brute-force nature of h ...


oh my...
 
2012-09-24 06:15:47 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: [img.photobucket.com image 735x430]

Bush ignored things that the previous administration was actively trying to prevent. Then, right wing propagandists used this attack for an excuse to shovel money (through no bid contracts) to companies like Halliburton.

But no, there's no conspiracy.


Bush used chemtrails! That darn Bush!
 
2012-09-24 06:16:22 PM

LesserEvil: Bush didn't want war with Iraq before 9/11.


I'm not sure I believe that. Cheney had a vested financial interest in destroying Iraq, Bush had a personal interest in Iraq that could have had daddy issues behind it. I watched all this live on TV like everyone else. There were no WMDs. But Bush told Saddam make with the WMDs or we're going in and he went in. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 but most of the hijackers were Saudi And Bush made out with the Saudi leader. Then Bush said he didn't care about bin Laden.
 
2012-09-24 06:17:15 PM
i56.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-24 06:21:26 PM

Mugato: Wow, look how aloof and disinterested they are. I don't know who they are but they have to be the coolest guys ever.

[static.nme.com image 300x184]


The fark happened to Matt Bellamy? He looks like a tweaker. I mean the motherfarker looked half dead before but that hair doesn't help any.

/That sucky album and pussy vampire endorsement deal was the last I payed attention to them.
 
2012-09-24 06:25:26 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: make me some tea: Who?

He's the guy farking Kate Hudson and being a farking rock star while being very short and very ugly.

I like the "Absolution" record and a track here and there and that's about it. But I did see them live on Palladia the other day and they put on a hell of a show.

(For a band that started off mimicking Smashing Pumpkins before moving to mimicking Radiohead.)


Never heard the Smashing Pumpkins claim before, but yeah his voice sounds a lot like Yorke's in some songs. Instrumentally though they don't sound much like Radiohead (I'm not entirely convinced Radiohead actually play instruments with strings anymore). Now it seems like he wants to be Freddy Mercury and they have a new dub-step obsession. With me (a former advocate for this band), it's a lot like Weezer, where their new stuff is so terrible, it starts to actually impact my enjoyment of the old stuff.
 
2012-09-24 06:29:32 PM
Embarrassed yet, truthers?
 
2012-09-24 06:31:38 PM

sprawl15: Uh, it's The Muse, subtard.


I don't get it, is this a joke or meme of which I am unaware? It's Muse.
 
2012-09-24 06:34:48 PM
I, for one, believe Bush went to War in Iraq, not from some preconceived plan, but because he believed thats what the public wanted..... Weeks and weeks after 9-11, seemingly every news article was about what Bush was gonna do about it.... Well, he finally did something. Stop complaining about it with hindsite knowledge of the result.
 
2012-09-24 06:35:39 PM

sprawl15: Uh, it's The Muse, subtard.


No, it's not. It's Muse. You are a doodyhead.
 
2012-09-24 06:41:40 PM
If it had been an inside job they would have simply made it look like Iraq did it instead of building a goofy justification that somehow the zeitgeist of the post-9/11 word made it essential to invade Iraq when it wasn't so in the pre-9/11 world. Iraq's WMD weren't real either.
 
2012-09-24 06:44:09 PM
Too bad the new record's mostly crap.
 
2012-09-24 06:45:43 PM

Nem Wan: If it had been an inside job they would have simply made it look like Iraq did it instead of building a goofy justification that somehow the zeitgeist of the post-9/11 word made it essential to invade Iraq when it wasn't so in the pre-9/11 world. Iraq's WMD weren't real either.


Sadaam Hussein didn't help with that. He was what we, on the internet, would consider an Epic troll. He was so good, that when the time came to prove he was complying with the world demands, and bluffing, that no one really believed him when he came out and said it.

He's dead proof that being an Epic IRL Troll has deadly consequences.
 
2012-09-24 06:47:57 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Bush and Cheney and Co. wanted Al Qaeda to do something to push their agenda, both foreign (invade Iraq at all costs) and domestic (prop up a feeble administration distrusted by many after the election fiasco), but thought it would be a tarmac hostage situation or something like that. They didn't expect the brass balls of what the hijackers did (or willfully didn't allow themselves to forsee it).

So no, it wasn't an 'inside job'. It was a wilfully negligent job. And they exploited the hell out of it.


"You covered your ass."

--George Bush to CIA briefer during the PDB "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Within US"
 
2012-09-24 06:48:33 PM
 
2012-09-24 06:49:34 PM
I bet he quit smoking pot.

/My only argument against legalization.
 
2012-09-24 06:50:55 PM

wildcardjack: I bet he quit smoking pot.

/My only argument against legalization.


LOLWUT?
 
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