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2012-09-24 01:53:58 PM
Pirate that shiat now. Electronic download for all. Free yourselves from the tyranny of physical limitations!

Sex, Allah, ganja, kalashnikov, revolution.
 
2012-09-24 01:56:36 PM
While it's insane they have these large plastic cards for a tiny SIM card, I would conjecture that if you are looking at the environmental impact of the manufacturing of smartphones this is probably one of the lesser concerns.

A lot fo rare earth metals going into making components which is I I am annoyed at the barrage of videos that are released of people destroying new devices when they come out. Yes they can be blended, shot, microwaved, and smashed on pavement. Please stop wasting time, money, and resources on doing it for the upteenthed time.
 
2012-09-24 02:04:10 PM
I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.
 
2012-09-24 02:05:06 PM
You get what you pay for I guess
 
2012-09-24 02:08:35 PM
Be able to load the webpage in 10 seconds, or die!
 
2012-09-24 02:08:56 PM
Thank God people who don't own iPhones never have to get a new SIM card.

/I think I just sprained something rolling my eyes

//I wondered what fabricated crisis would hit us this week.
 
2012-09-24 02:16:09 PM
What if they all just swallowed them like little Communion wafers?
 
2012-09-24 02:19:10 PM
Subby, the discarded Android phones are going to weigh much more than that.
 
2012-09-24 02:21:47 PM
i.imgur.com

Three! Three iPhone 5 threads today! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
 
2012-09-24 02:24:22 PM

theurge14: [i.imgur.com image 468x330]

Three! Three iPhone 5 threads today! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!


Are any of them unboxing vids?
 
2012-09-24 02:25:05 PM
All SIM cards come on credit card sized pieces of plastic. This happens every day.
 
kab
2012-09-24 02:26:10 PM
WHO CAREZZZZ

NEW

SHINEYYYYYYY
 
2012-09-24 02:26:12 PM

MightyPez: A lot fo rare earth metals going into making components which is I I am annoyed at the barrage of videos that are released of people destroying new devices when they come out. Yes they can be blended, shot, microwaved, and smashed on pavement. Please stop wasting time, money, and resources on doing it for the upteenthed time.


You sound poor.
 
2012-09-24 02:33:03 PM

ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.


While I agree that buying a new phone during the middle of a k (unless you have a tremendous amount of disposable income) is pretty silly, 3G to LTE is a bit more than "an extra 25K of data per minute".
 
2012-09-24 02:36:04 PM
Despite the nano-SIM being much smaller than previous cards, the plastic tray that every user is given is the exact same size. This credit card sized piece of plastic has a small rectangle notched out where you punch through and pop out your nano-SIM. The previous SIM and the plastic holder for the new SIM are then tossed in the garbage.

If you look at the five million users that managed to secure an iPhone 5 already, that is roughly 62,000 pounds of plastic waste generated just by forcing every user to replace their SIM card. Nearly 62,000 pounds of plastic waste generated in a single weekend, and the knowledge that if any of those users move away from the iPhone 5 to another device any time soon, that user will need to change SIM cards all over again.


Why, that's horrible! Apple is awful for wasting all that plastic...
www.geek.com
... and also awful for impersonating Vodaphone! Clearly, this is all Apple's fault!
 
2012-09-24 02:37:51 PM
Oh, subby meant "SIM". I was trying to figure what kind of simulation, nano or otherwise, could generate 62,000 Lbs of waste.
 
2012-09-24 02:48:02 PM

fluffy2097: You sound poor.


If you want to just destroy something material to make a statement, the K Foundation's got you pretty well beat.

What's the point of a smaller SIM card though? It's not like they took up that much space. This doesn't seem to do anything besides bust backwards compatibility.
 
2012-09-24 02:58:11 PM

you have pee hands: What's the point of a smaller SIM card though? It's not like they took up that much space. This doesn't seem to do anything besides bust backwards compatibility.


It has to do with new smart phones getting much thinner/smaller and cramming more stuff in them. More radios, bigger batteries, larger screens, etc. Space it at a premium in these devices now and they are fighting for every millimeter. It's also why we are seeing a smaller iphone connector micro HDMI ports .
 
2012-09-24 02:59:11 PM

Surool: Subby, the discarded Android phones are going to weigh much more than that.


Just like they did with the last three iPhones, right?
 
2012-09-24 03:00:59 PM

bingethinker: Thank God people who don't own iPhones never have to get a new SIM card.

/I think I just sprained something rolling my eyes

//I wondered what fabricated crisis would hit us this week.


Serious question. Unless you lost the phone or somehow managed to fry the SIM why else would you bother getting a new one as long as you are on the same phone provider?

And even better question is why are we still using SIMs instead of an encrypted file the phone user can just dump on the mincroSD card every phone NOT made by Apple uses.
 
2012-09-24 03:02:52 PM
Three words: Nano sim cutter. Problem solved.
 
2012-09-24 03:10:23 PM
iPhone iphone iphone. iPhone. iPhone iphone iphone iphone; iphone iphone iphone. iPhone, iphone iphone.

iPhone? iPhone??

iPhone.

//iPhone
 
2012-09-24 03:11:36 PM

you have pee hands: fluffy2097: You sound poor.

If you want to just destroy something material to make a statement, the K Foundation's got you pretty well beat.

What's the point of a smaller SIM card though? It's not like they took up that much space. This doesn't seem to do anything besides bust backwards compatibility.


You know, I honestly didn't get that myself. I mean, what, Micro-SIM wasn't small enough? Was there some reason we just had to change everything to shave 4mm off of each side?
 
2012-09-24 03:14:50 PM
I have had an iPhone 4 and an iPhone 3G and about 4 other brands before I switched to iPhone. I have never had need to remove a SIM card. Ever. Didn't even know iPhones had SIM cards. Not 100% sure what a SIM card even does. Don't know why I should care one way of the other
 
2012-09-24 03:30:57 PM
That's a stretch, even for Apple haters. Stick to the legitimate topics like patent trolling.
 
2012-09-24 03:36:55 PM

Majick Thise: I have had an iPhone 4 and an iPhone 3G and about 4 other brands before I switched to iPhone. I have never had need to remove a SIM card. Ever. Didn't even know iPhones had SIM cards. Not 100% sure what a SIM card even does. Don't know why I should care one way of the other


The SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) card is how the cellular network identifies the phones connecting to it. (Not entirely sure on which specific generations were compatible, but) Before the iPhone 4, you could upgrade from iPhone 1 to 2 to 3 and all you had to do was move the SIM card from one phone to the other.

Since the card size decreased from 3G to 4 and now to 5, you need an entirely new SIM card, all together.
 
2012-09-24 03:47:32 PM

ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.


The people who are buying these types of phones are those that have two year agreements that are now ending. Not people who buy phones every 6 to 9 months. And most seem to sell or giveaway their old phones.
 
2012-09-24 04:07:35 PM

Minarets: Majick Thise: I have had an iPhone 4 and an iPhone 3G and about 4 other brands before I switched to iPhone. I have never had need to remove a SIM card. Ever. Didn't even know iPhones had SIM cards. Not 100% sure what a SIM card even does. Don't know why I should care one way of the other

The SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) card is how the cellular network identifies the phones connecting to it. (Not entirely sure on which specific generations were compatible, but) Before the iPhone 4, you could upgrade from iPhone 1 to 2 to 3 and all you had to do was move the SIM card from one phone to the other.

Since the card size decreased from 3G to 4 and now to 5, you need an entirely new SIM card, all together.


A new sim will come with the phone why would I want the old one? When I bought my iPhone 4 they didn't even open the box to transfer my stuff. just laid the store Point of sale iphone on top of the box that had my new phone in it and in about a minute my number, account info etc had been transferred. Movies, apps, games and pics were done later when I plugged into my mac
 
2012-09-24 04:09:51 PM
That's 31 tons of waste. Some manufacturers in our area bring that much to the landfill every few days. It's a large amount of waste, but it's not going to destroy the environment singlehandedly or anything.
 
2012-09-24 04:16:51 PM
Even I think this is a stupid complaint.
 
2012-09-24 04:28:39 PM
you need an entirely new SIM card,
 
2012-09-24 04:29:58 PM

bingethinker: Thank God people who don't own iPhones never have to get a new SIM card.

/I think I just sprained something rolling my eyes

//I wondered what fabricated crisis would hit us this week.


Well I'm on my second android phone only because I accidentally broke my first one and I just moved the micro SD card it uses to the new model.

So nyah.
 
2012-09-24 04:36:52 PM

BullBearMS: you need an entirely new SIM card,


Thanks for following up on that; I was hoping somebody would.
 
2012-09-24 04:45:12 PM

JRoo: bingethinker: Thank God people who don't own iPhones never have to get a new SIM card.

/I think I just sprained something rolling my eyes

//I wondered what fabricated crisis would hit us this week.

Well I'm on my second android phone only because I accidentally broke my first one and I just moved the micro SD card it uses to the new model.

So nyah.


Since Apple has employed the "new standard" SIM card, your next phone will require you to change. Manufacturers love every cubic millimeter they can save in real estate in their phone designs. Expect them to keep getting smaller as time goes by.
 
2012-09-24 04:46:25 PM

ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.


This
 
2012-09-24 04:48:38 PM

machoprogrammer: ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.

This


My phone is 3 years old, runs great, still holds battery charge, and I don't plan on upgrading until it dies.
 
2012-09-24 04:51:34 PM

Jonathan Strange: BullBearMS: you need an entirely new SIM card,

Thanks for following up on that; I was hoping somebody would.


I can't believe nobody did it before me. Fark is usually pretty quick to get Airplane references
 
2012-09-24 05:35:30 PM
The increased fuel usage from faulty iPhone maps is more of a concern.
 
2012-09-24 05:36:54 PM
Was there a legitimate reason for changing the usb cable for iPhone 5? Do they charge faster, etc?

Because that seems like a waste as well.

Micro usb works splendidly.
 
2012-09-24 05:38:38 PM

bingethinker: Thank God people who don't own iPhones never have to get a new SIM card.

/I think I just sprained something rolling my eyes

//I wondered what fabricated crisis would hit us this week.


NOW was it a sim card or SD card.

My SD card from my last 3 phones have transferred from each phone.
 
2012-09-24 07:31:20 PM
By this rationale, no changes should ever be made and our smartphones should have transistors in them. Things change. And generally for the better. I happened to walk into our local Apple Store Friday at 9:30. There was no line. I was in and out in 12 minutes with the new phone. I'd been eligible for an upgrade for more than 3 months (so was at 21 months) and had already found a buyer for my iPhone 4, so I went ahead and bought a 5. For the same price I paid for my 8G iPhone 4, i got a 16G iPhone 5. Not a bad deal at all. It's 4x faster, it's larger, and the new features and transfer speeds are especially attractive.

And back to the original premise of the article....It's not like any consumer actually received the card that the SIM came on. That's extremely rare apparently. The reps plug it in for you at the store when you buy it in person and the card is already installed when you order online. All of that plastic can and likely is being recycled anyway. Even if I had received it, it would certainly go into my recycle bin. If you want to shame anybody, shame the municipalities that still opt to not have curbside recycling or recycle facilities. Recycling is easy.
 
2012-09-24 08:53:19 PM
Apple tried to get rid of SIM cards in their devices. This is the fault of phone companies that refused to budge.
 
2012-09-24 08:59:18 PM
When the galaxy S IV comes out will fark waste this many articles on it?
 
2012-09-24 09:19:08 PM
Did the article account for all the Verizon phones? No SIM cards.
 
2012-09-24 09:21:55 PM

Coffee Snob: Did the article account for all the Verizon phones? No SIM cards.


Sprint and Verizon iPhone 5s have SIMs. LTE requires it.
 
2012-09-24 09:27:22 PM
Wouldn't there by much more waste in all the discarded cables and accessories from the people upgrading iPhones?

CSB: While fixing a computer in a Verizon store today I heard these exact words from a lady:

"Do you have the iPhone 5? No? Backordered? You don't understand, I am the outcast from all of my friends right now. I have to have an iPhone. Do you have any other iPhones? An iPhone 4? Ok, I'll take that. Thank god I won't be a pariah anymore!"

/weapons grade derp
 
2012-09-24 09:52:53 PM

dustman81: Coffee Snob: Did the article account for all the Verizon phones? No SIM cards.

Sprint and Verizon iPhone 5s have SIMs. LTE requires it.


I did not know that. I still have the 4 and won't be getting another iPhone.
 
2012-09-24 10:12:16 PM

ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.


Or you could donate your old phone to a battered women's shelter, or something.
 
2012-09-24 10:13:11 PM

fang06554: Wouldn't there by much more waste in all the discarded cables and accessories from the people upgrading iPhones?

CSB: While fixing a computer in a Verizon store today I heard these exact words from a lady:

"Do you have the iPhone 5? No? Backordered? You don't understand, I am the outcast from all of my friends right now. I have to have an iPhone. Do you have any other iPhones? An iPhone 4? Ok, I'll take that. Thank god I won't be a pariah anymore!"

/weapons grade derp


Quit making shiat up to get attention.
 
2012-09-24 10:42:43 PM
Heh, as if Apple zombies thought about anyone but themselves :rolleyes:
 
2012-09-24 10:52:31 PM
the old SIMs (iphone 3gs and lower) could be 'cut' to fit the micro SIM slots (iphone 4, and 4s). The metallic part on both the regular and micro sim were the same size, the Micro just had less plastic. I did this several times while traveling last year.

Can Micro SIMs now be cut even smaller to Nano SIMs? or are the incompatible?
 
2012-09-24 11:37:07 PM

Likwit: Quit making shiat up to get attention.


I hate to be the one to break this to you, but there is this thing called a "real world". (I know, hard to believe). In this "real world", people actually say things. Some of these things are boring, some are funny, and some are stupid (your comment, as an example). I heard one that I considered funny, and passed it on in a seemingly fitting area.

But no, I must really be a closet AW, just hoping that someone, somewhere would notice me.

/You weren't in a Verizon store today by any chance, were you?
 
2012-09-24 11:46:46 PM

ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.


I had a long rambling "get off my lawn" kind of story all ready, but in the end it just wasn't that interesting, so I'll get to the point.

Tell me, wise cheapskates of Fark: what is the cheapest possible basic cellphone service I can get? Difficulty: I make 1-2 calls/month and usually receive fewer, I don't text, and I'm for god's sake almost never more than 10 feet from a computer, so why the fark would I need a farking iPhone?

/it's like shelling out for comprehensive insurance when your car is worth $500
 
2012-09-24 11:54:29 PM

cxjohn: By this rationale, no changes should ever be made and our smartphones should have transistors in them. Things change.


Smartphones do have transistors in them.
 
2012-09-25 01:01:26 AM

Surool: My phone is 3 years old, runs great, still holds battery charge, and I don't plan on upgrading until it dies.


I was pondering this, as I kept my last phone for five years, until it died:

Is it better to buy a new iPhone every two years and sell your old one for, say $100, or to keep an iPhone for four years and then have to pay "full" price for the new phone?

/no one said there wouldn't be math
 
2012-09-25 01:49:41 AM
I'm so glad we have gotten rid of every form of waste from all electronic gadgets, so we can tackle this.
 
2012-09-25 02:28:20 AM

Attar: the old SIMs (iphone 3gs and lower) could be 'cut' to fit the micro SIM slots (iphone 4, and 4s). The metallic part on both the regular and micro sim were the same size, the Micro just had less plastic. I did this several times while traveling last year.

Can Micro SIMs now be cut even smaller to Nano SIMs? or are the incompatible?


That's what I was wondering: if traveling internationally with an AT&T iPhone 5 are you SOL?
 
2012-09-25 03:40:01 AM

ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.


I've used my beloved 3GS since I got it when it was new. And it's beloved not because I'm a blind Apple fan, but because I've dropped it an average of 12+ times a week, nearly every time on hardwood or worse, since I bought it. I have also talked on it while walking in the rain a ridiculous amount, and I use it so much that, despite having a healthy, decent battery, I run it down from full to dead about twice a day, every day. I didn't upgrade to the other ones that came out because I'm poor and they were more breakable.

And this phone, while having a ton of cosmetic knicks and scuffs front and back and losing the volume buttons (still works, just have to pretty my nails in) and having the mute switch used so much it switches with the slightest pressure in my pocket and purse all the time, and having cracks all on the plastic back.. It still held up. Not a single problem in function, not a single flaw in the display. Until the very day I first discussed swapping it out now that the iPhone 4 is free with signing on for 2 more years.

I've decided it's like old dogs who hold on until their (also old) masters die. It has been a very loyal gadget.

/the crack in the display it got that day is just a starburst from the bottom corner, and is the display, not the glass on top of the display
//I'm a weirdo and kind of like it, it reminds me of vines or bare tree branches
 
2012-09-25 03:45:44 AM

Hacker_X: bingethinker: Thank God people who don't own iPhones never have to get a new SIM card.

/I think I just sprained something rolling my eyes

//I wondered what fabricated crisis would hit us this week.

Serious question. Unless you lost the phone or somehow managed to fry the SIM why else would you bother getting a new one as long as you are on the same phone provider?

And even better question is why are we still using SIMs instead of an encrypted file the phone user can just dump on the mincroSD card every phone NOT made by Apple uses.


I've had to replace mine twice while on the same carrier. I think both were because of dropped calls, apparently old SIM cards can be the cause of that. At one point every call I had would drop within a few minutes, and the SIM card was the problem.

You could also lose them fairly easily if you swap between phones much. I'm probably going to keep my 3GS and upgrade to the 4 since its free now, and will probably swap to the 3GS when I'm running a ton of errands, since I drop my phone extra then. Or working out etc.
 
2012-09-25 03:47:29 AM

Majick Thise: I have had an iPhone 4 and an iPhone 3G and about 4 other brands before I switched to iPhone. I have never had need to remove a SIM card. Ever. Didn't even know iPhones had SIM cards. Not 100% sure what a SIM card even does. Don't know why I should care one way of the other


I forget why but I remember having to remove mine a few times when I had the Samsung Blackjack II.
 
2012-09-25 04:03:56 AM

gglibertine: ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.

I had a long rambling "get off my lawn" kind of story all ready, but in the end it just wasn't that interesting, so I'll get to the point.

Tell me, wise cheapskates of Fark: what is the cheapest possible basic cellphone service I can get? Difficulty: I make 1-2 calls/month and usually receive fewer, I don't text, and I'm for god's sake almost never more than 10 feet from a computer, so why the fark would I need a farking iPhone?

/it's like shelling out for comprehensive insurance when your car is worth $500


In America, the prepaid card phones are cheapest for that. My mom got one that for two years of the device she got double minutes from the cards she bought. I forget what it was called, but I know she compared the prices of the prepaid phones a lot, wanted a basic phone (it was a skinny black flip phone), and the cards are lime green with maybe blue letters.

Despite all the AT&T hate, it's cheapest for us. We need some minutes, just not many. With rollover, we use the 700 minute family plan for me and my dad (he works out of state, so his cell is how they talk). We've started using about 2000 plan minutes a month lately because I talk to Mom more, so we're going to add her once our rollover minutes get low enough to risk going over. $60 for the first line, $10 for the extras. $30 I think for unlimited texting that covers every line, and I think they have a cheaper, smaller data plan than Verizon (I have Internet, don't need to use a ton of data). Just wish I could convince her to drop the landline for it, but her house is kind of long and near train tracks and I think she likes having multiple stations that ring so she doesn't have to keep a phone with her at all times to hear it.

Only thing I hate about AT&T is they don't have the same super small data plan for non-iPhones, and so we're spending way more than needed for my dad's smartphone plan. I may see about upgrading him to the iPhone 4 now that it's $1 (plus activation fee), since he doesn't use anywhere near the minimum data plan for his phone.
 
2012-09-25 04:09:26 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Surool: My phone is 3 years old, runs great, still holds battery charge, and I don't plan on upgrading until it dies.

I was pondering this, as I kept my last phone for five years, until it died:

Is it better to buy a new iPhone every two years and sell your old one for, say $100, or to keep an iPhone for four years and then have to pay "full" price for the new phone?

/no one said there wouldn't be math


Why would you have to pay full price if you wait 4 years to upgrade? I've been eligible for an upgrade since the iPhone 4 first came out and I'm still as eligible for that upgrade with low price as before.

/Fark, please make it possible to reply to multiple comments in one post from the app, I don't like looking spammy
//and/or make copying and pasting text in the app work
///also, if they're real and not an elaborate joke, put the smart and funny buttons in the app
 
2012-09-25 08:27:05 AM

cxjohn: By this rationale, no changes should ever be made and our smartphones should have transistors in them. Things change. And generally for the better. I happened to walk into our local Apple Store Friday at 9:30. There was no line. I was in and out in 12 minutes with the new phone. I'd been eligible for an upgrade for more than 3 months (so was at 21 months) .


BY your rationale, you should be updating all of your appliances on a schedule then. So, when are you due to "upgrade" your fridge? Your clothes dryer? Your microwave? Every 24 months? Every year, each of these items gets better than the last with more improvements and technology. There's generally little to no line at Sears or Home Depot or wherever you go locally to buy appliances. And, heck, they don't even have a monthly usage rate!
 
2012-09-25 08:58:44 AM

gglibertine: ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.

I had a long rambling "get off my lawn" kind of story all ready, but in the end it just wasn't that interesting, so I'll get to the point.

Tell me, wise cheapskates of Fark: what is the cheapest possible basic cellphone service I can get? Difficulty: I make 1-2 calls/month and usually receive fewer, I don't text, and I'm for god's sake almost never more than 10 feet from a computer, so why the fark would I need a farking iPhone?

/it's like shelling out for comprehensive insurance when your car is worth $500


You sound like me, I make very few calls in any given month. I have a pay as you go plan with T-Mobil, I cant remember the actual name of it, but I pay $1.00 per day that I actually use the phone and 0.10 cents a minute for calls. If I go a few weeks and never make or receive a call, it costs me nothing. I refill my phone with $10-$15 every couple months.
 
2012-09-25 10:14:48 AM

you have pee hands: If you want to just destroy something material to make a statement, the K Foundation's got you pretty well beat.

What's the point of a smaller SIM card though? It's not like they took up that much space. This doesn't seem to do anything besides bust backwards compatibility.


Does the smaller SIM card really make more waste? Normal SIM cards make only a sliver of more waste when the card gets popped out of its holder credit card thing.
 
2012-09-25 12:11:34 PM

ReapTheChaos: gglibertine: ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.

I had a long rambling "get off my lawn" kind of story all ready, but in the end it just wasn't that interesting, so I'll get to the point.

Tell me, wise cheapskates of Fark: what is the cheapest possible basic cellphone service I can get? Difficulty: I make 1-2 calls/month and usually receive fewer, I don't text, and I'm for god's sake almost never more than 10 feet from a computer, so why the fark would I need a farking iPhone?

/it's like shelling out for comprehensive insurance when your car is worth $500

You sound like me, I make very few calls in any given month. I have a pay as you go plan with T-Mobil, I cant remember the actual name of it, but I pay $1.00 per day that I actually use the phone and 0.10 cents a minute for calls. If I go a few weeks and never make or receive a call, it costs me nothing. I refill my phone with $10-$15 every couple months.


I'd recommend a play-as-you-go plan too. However, stay away from Tracfone. My son has a phone with their service and he constantly gets spam texts that cost him minutes. My wife has had a regular, minimal plan with AT&T for maybe 10 years and she *never* gets text spam. I'm just about convinced that Tracfone at least condones, or at worst, participates in the text spamming... it earns them money by using up your minutes.
 
2012-09-25 12:44:49 PM
Seriously? This is the best the iPhone hate lobby can do today?

Microsoft phones are 100% waste, so consider that!
 
2012-09-25 02:06:09 PM

gglibertine: /it's like shelling out for comprehensive insurance when your car is worth $500


I actually do that. Mostly because comprehensive insurance on my $2000 car only adds $5 to the cost of a 6-month policy over liability insurance.
 
2012-09-27 12:00:51 AM

ReapTheChaos: gglibertine: ReapTheChaos: I'll never understand people who feel the need to buy a new damn phone every 6-9 months just because it's screen is .010 of an inch bigger or it can download an extra 25k of data per minute. Screw the damn plastic card, what about the millions of cell phones that get thrown away every damn year.

I had a long rambling "get off my lawn" kind of story all ready, but in the end it just wasn't that interesting, so I'll get to the point.

Tell me, wise cheapskates of Fark: what is the cheapest possible basic cellphone service I can get? Difficulty: I make 1-2 calls/month and usually receive fewer, I don't text, and I'm for god's sake almost never more than 10 feet from a computer, so why the fark would I need a farking iPhone?

/it's like shelling out for comprehensive insurance when your car is worth $500

You sound like me, I make very few calls in any given month. I have a pay as you go plan with T-Mobil, I cant remember the actual name of it, but I pay $1.00 per day that I actually use the phone and 0.10 cents a minute for calls. If I go a few weeks and never make or receive a call, it costs me nothing. I refill my phone with $10-$15 every couple months.


Thank you for the useful advice. I'll be hitting a T-Mobile outlet tomorrow.

/NO, SERIOUSLY, GET THE fark OFF MY LAWN
 
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